Mini 1659- Lost Room Mafia GAME OVER

[Klazam]

vote: ETL hydra

HI

also to ika hydra- would you guys mind signing your posts? because i wanna know which ones i need to ignore

[Klazam]

>.> whatever.

[Klazam]

vote dechs Kaison

this is a real vote

A) focusing on third party. the third party and scum are both anti town factions, why bring up third party in particular
B) giving this hypothetical third party a character name, which clearly doesn't fit with what i got as my role, ergo, different role pm, ergo different alignment from me, ergo scum

choo choo

[Klazam]

ah fuckdammit, got people mixed up

vote ooba

CHOO CHOO

[Klazam]

Huh. Thats interesting.

Yeah, my vote on ooba essentially is based on a very weak reason.

Im still trying to figure out why ooba is still persiting on his named character theory.

Possible: ooba is the third party himself, and hes gauging our opnion on letting him have his free win.

My main concern over that, is that from what i understand of this mechanic, assuming ooba is correct about the collecting aspect, it'd either force a mass-object claim or risk losing town power roles to the collector. Im not a fan of just being helpful to third parties at the town's expense.

Which is what ooba just said in the post above this.

unvote

i can buy him legit flavorgaming this.

More coming later

Pedit: make that the second post above

Mollie/that hydra- do you have reason on that wagon, other than policying ika?

[Klazam]

Yeah, i dont know the flavor, and apparently ooba does. I can totally see myself getting caught up on small things like that if its about something i know. I dont think its a scumtell, espically given what ooba has said since then

[Klazam]

Uh, that feels like a pretty large wagon on goodmorn, esp given she has only 2 posts. Why?

Stop ninjaing me

[Klazam]

. "sup" is not an actual response to "Why are we going after flavour?")

"sup" was my response to goodmorning voting me. As in, do I worry you somehow and do you want to talk about it? We know each other and she got it.

VOTE: goodmorning

What makes you decide to vote good,orning in those 5 mins?

[Klazam]

Im not whiteknighting.

Re: wagon
A) several naked votes
B) goodmorn has 2 posts, and im not sure whats scummy about those

Re: wisdom
"We get each other" then 5 mins later, woth no relevant posts in between, he votes goodmorn. Seems slightly off to me

Im trying to understand what this wagon is about, and at the same time im seeing weirdness about wisdom's vote

[Klazam]

Also, im leaving thread, too many people on and posting lol

[Klazam]

I unvoted also.

Morn, i see votes pop ip, and since you only have 2 posts i wanna know why, thats all

Now you're just trying to make me look bad. Fixed.

[Klazam]

Um k

[Klazam]

is that a game related post?

[Klazam]

wisdom
mind telling me why you have so many town on that list?

[Klazam]

yeah. I'm hopping on too.

vote: wisdom

[Klazam]

i don't quite understand either.

[Klazam]

i dont understand ooba's post either

[Klazam]

ooba, when you're here
mind explaining what your post meant? the one with the vote count specifically

[Klazam]

ah. i've done that as both alignments so its p much null for me, I'm going to check out dark light's version then. thanks for explaining

[Klazam]

I just reread the 3 pages prior to the vote count linked, i don't see either of them calling the other one scummy. Theres absolutely no interaction between the two in their isos actually (prior to posted VC, didn't check afterwards)

which means that dark light probably pulled that argument out of his ass to deflect from himself.

Wisdom, I'm tempted. give me a bit though. i wanna reread your recent posts and see if i still feel the same way about you

[Klazam]

yeah wis got that right. I'm a bit dense sometimes.

I really like wis's reaction to that wagon, though. he can be town for now. I see a lot of reaching in dark light's posts. the ones about om for example.

vote Darklight

P-Edit: explain what you mean by "distance"

[Klazam]

divacat, that vote based on what?

[Klazam]

v/l today

[Klazam]

I think the mass object claim might be better?

Question though, whats stopping scum from killing you and preventing you from winning? Also, why is the fact that scum has your object stops you from collecting it? Your fullclaim makes no sense from your persecptive. Its insanely good for town, but 100% stops you from winning...

Pedit, ap's method is probably better- stops scum from picking off conftowns as he says

[Klazam]

Another thing with it- if he has some sort of multishot alibity, the object massclaim could lead to him simply winning. Claimin gwhat the objects are without telling him who has it, might be more safer?

[Klazam]

for all we know, item #3 that he needs to have to win is actually the knife not the toothbrush

[Klazam]

Yes im a paranoid bastard, but what he claimed means that its p much impossible for him to win if he claims...

[Klazam]

He claimed nail file, not knife

[Klazam]

What if he has a mass one shot steal, and/or he already has one or two items from badromance?

[Klazam]

And he could be lying about the toothbrush being the item that he needs.

[Klazam]

My entire hangup on the claim is the "wins if lives and town wins". With that, he essentially prevented himself from winning. I don't know but i wouldnt have done the same as him, so..


Pedit: i also think youre flavorgaming a bit too hard here

[Klazam]

I'm thinking of it as a anti massclaim mechanic

[Klazam]

Ugh, this is derailing us from scumhunting. I need to reread. Dont feel like doing that right now, frankly.

[Klazam]

That'd be horribly broken, js.

[Klazam]

Ok. Fact time:

Dechs is 3p

Claims rolecop on AP, says he is flask.

AP claims quarter- points out that flask is in the sample mafia post

I believe AP here. What kindof mod would allow something that breakable in the game?

Wisdom is reallllllllllly overstretching here.

vote: Wisdom

[Klazam]

you're stretching here i believe.

[Klazam]

about AP, you've been gunning for him awhile now, and I'm not seeing it.

AP's concerns about the 3p claim resonates with me, the flask thing is meh. You're painting him as pure scum, but i share a lot of the same opinions that he is having... so does that mean i am scum?

[Klazam]

No, but do tell me why I'm scum rather than wrong on ap in your mind. Do you see scum motivation in my posts?

Yes

Divacat, i agree with you about the 3p, although I'm not sure if lynching him is our best route because as it stands, the only harm he is doing right now is driving town in circles around setup spec.

[Klazam]

Yeah I thin I'm actually wrong here...

unvote

Will vote tonight.

Dechs- did you allude to having that "oracle" power in your claim post?

[Klazam]

I'm actually starting to think ooba could be a scumbuddy here, but I'll look in that more later

[Klazam]

Decha, you said it was a full claim, so why add on to it with oracl stuff later? Also, I was under th impression that all powers are granted by objects. Only thing I'd think be diff is the 3p power, but as you say- nail file has a power. So, why do you have a no object power?

[Klazam]

I need to resolve this ap-dechs thing before working on ooba, but ooba- your omgus is noted.

My thinking of ooba as scum depends on ap's alignment though. More later.

[Klazam]

Clarification) nail file has the object stealing power

Phoneposting is hard

[Klazam]

./shrug

You gotta get catched up, sis.

We have what amounts to a cop guilty on AP, but from an unreliable source.

I like your ooba read tho.

Me being leery of the good morn thing was due to naked voting. It's not the wagon aspect, pretty much, nothing else I can say about that.if it helps, I actually thought there was more than the three votes it turned out to be.

[Klazam]

You hang if ap turns out to have a coin.

vote: AP[\b]

Im k with it i guess. Really unused to trusting a 3p

[Klazam]

vote:AP

[Klazam]

waiting on AP lynch.

It'll decide a lot of things, like with dechs and ooba.

[Klazam]

Holy shit. I guessed right.

Hmm?

[Klazam]

Jailkeeper?

Also,

vote: ooba

More later, but this is based on the ap scumflip.

[Klazam]

Cant find the post right now, will look again later. Basically that post just screams "oh ok, time to bus my scumbuddy"

Throw on the 3p soeculation at the start of the game, and his omgussing all over the place, there you go, scum

[Klazam]

I don't know about wisdom, but it sure seemed like ooba was bussing to me. I don't know.

I did think that ap was town to start off, but then it went down hill lol

[Klazam]

uh, awesome. away from the thread for like 12 hours and we have a scum claim.

so ooba, then its gg. k

[Klazam]

vote:ooba

[Klazam]

yeah forget it.

vote:Klazam

Dechs' role is stupid, whatever it is.

[Klazam]

okay I will listen to you.

but I will lord it over you if guyett and klazam are scum.

I think guyett is scum.

VOTE: ooba

just wanna make sure this is noted

[Klazam]

ooba, also the bit where i aimed the past 2 nightkills at him.

[Klazam]

bulletproof cop (with how heavy in flavor this game its a straight up cop, not a role cop) that starts the game with 3 conftowns.