Mini 1659- Lost Room Mafia GAME OVER

[Wisdom]

yeah that's what I was thinking right now, you did bring up that they are suspicious.

Maybe goodmorning then, but that would mean no mafia were on Darklight.

[Wisdom]

We could wait for flames and Om to produce some content or get replaced but other than that, no

[Wisdom]

So you're saying the two scum are the two lurkers?

[Wisdom]

Your goading me didn't sit well, but otherwise I've started to treat you as Town so that probably means something.
diva is Town. BR I don't have any idea how to read but if you all think they're Town then I'm good with it.
ooba I still am unsure on but he's not posted much other than the setup spec.
Klazam doesn't seem to be playing the same game the rest of us are but is probably Town, I think.

Those don't sound very firm either. Mind restating them?

[Wisdom]

goodmorning and Flames probably

[Wisdom]

I have gm/obba/flames.
I put this really strange reason for gm/obba as scum pair but flames actions and play this game are pretty quiet and I would place money he's probably posting fine elsewhere.

It can't be all three, there's also AP

[Wisdom]

inb4 DK is gaming us and goodmorning and farside are actually scum

[Wisdom]

How do you not know what your object does?

[Wisdom]

The wiki says unknown power too, so I'll buy that.

Maybe I have to reread klazam. It being the two lurkers seems too easy.

[Wisdom]

hi Guyett, we know you're scum

[Wisdom]

perhaps

[Wisdom]

Even if AP doesn't have the Flask, we're not lynching DK. We'd be helping scum even more.

[Wisdom]

Why Om over Flames?

[Wisdom]

No I still think DK is honest and AP has the Flask, I'm just saying that even if that's somehow not the case, it's stupid to lynch DK, we'd be helping mafia further.

[Wisdom]

If you lolhammer anyone at all you're scumclaiming in this setup.

[Wisdom]

DK: No, WE don't know goodmorning and farside are town. YOU supposedly know it and we are blindly trusting you. There's a difference.

I still prefer BR hammering.

[Wisdom]

because if Flames has the Comb and is a scum busdriver, that might have been scum checking with scum if the busdrive worked, since I see the scumboard is locked during the day from the sample OP.

This doesn't make much sense - scum wouldn't just check with scum in that way. They would have a code or something.

[Wisdom]

Still I don't know why Flames would post that as scum. I more feel like he did something at night that would likely give BR one of the items or something.

He needs to explain it anyway.

[Wisdom]

Can someone point me towards the AP being scum argument? I am feeling very lazy

DK has an Oracle Power that tells him what objects someone has. AP has the Flask, which is a killing item. AP denied that and claimed he has the Quarter.

DK also is a third party, so there's a trust issue, but it makes no sense for him to lie about AP.

[Wisdom]

@diva Yeah the Pen probably is what the scum used to kill Orion (disintegration)

It did seem like Flames had knowledge of the two items but I don't know if that necessarily means he's scum - it just troubles me that he would admit knowledge of them inthread.

[Wisdom]

Ok, I'm confused, why is flask a killing item? I see talk of knives and the op has a gun? are they not killing items? I have no idea wtf is with this flavour :/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objects_from_The_Lost_Room

[Wisdom]

He denied being a vigilante too, also only one kill happened

He isnt dead because we're discussing

[Wisdom]

it was mollie who asked if she was similar to tammy

[Wisdom]

are your reads from town to scum? What is Om doing above goodmorning and farside?

[Wisdom]

who are you

[Wisdom]

so ika? lawl. i thought you knew there's no "town wisdom" by now

[Wisdom]

@ooba Not "prob", according to DK they are conftown

[Wisdom]

marquis was in hilariously unbalanced 2?

[Wisdom]

darklight isnt alive silly mod

[Wisdom]

oh he was in fin3

[Wisdom]

UNVOTE:

[Wisdom]

I know this is a pain in the butt but I really want Dechs to confirm pencil before hammer.

[Wisdom]

ok I guess we can lynch now then?

VOTE: AP

back to L-2

[Wisdom]

or we could wait for a Flames replacement, I dont mind

[Wisdom]

Guyett and Flames? Or Guyett and klazam? Hmm.

[Wisdom]

I just don't think both Om and Flames would WK darklight the same way if they're both scum

[Wisdom]

How do you feel about klazam? I did a quick iso and he mostly tried to help ap push his points today. His D1 was weak too.

[Wisdom]

lol at Om being in not vig list

[Wisdom]

We know?

[Wisdom]

Vig whoever else not in {Wis, BR, Div, Om}.

I was talking about ooba including you in his not vig list

[Wisdom]

sup

is it time to lynch xay? <3

[Wisdom]

can you also use it or only scum?

[Wisdom]

i guess you cant because scum are using theirs?

[Wisdom]

oh

[Wisdom]

well i figured that would be the case, it would be too OP to gain a vig shot by lynching scum

[Wisdom]

Pretty sure I blocked the kill with my Key.

so who was it you blocked?

[Wisdom]

Why would they need the flask back? They don't need it to kill

[Wisdom]

Also, vote: ooba

More later, but this is based on the ap scumflip.

elaborate

[Wisdom]

the only scum i see is you, thats pretty weak

[Wisdom]

Why not? I also lynched AP

[Wisdom]

But I'm not liking your tone, bro. I was just kidding around with you and you're already trying to discredit me by mentioning the mislynch I pushed. Looks like you're scared of me pushing you :/

[Wisdom]

he wasnt a mason though, so

[Wisdom]

cool

klaz/guyett?

[Wisdom]

VOTE: klaz

can vote for guyett too

[Wisdom]

i feel like this whole game wisdom's been so super scummy

you cant read me man

[Wisdom]

i love how marquis comes in and wis presumes its me

nope i knew its flames this time

[Wisdom]

i love how marquis comes in and wis presumes its me

nope i knew its flames this time

marquis, that is

[Wisdom]

the hu2 misread was a product of titus not you pls

im not talking about hu2, i sucked there anyway
im talking generally. if you cant tell im obvtown, you just cant read me

[Wisdom]

i also like how wis ignores what i said on why they would want it back

i dont care about it. DK suggested scum would shoot you for the Flask and it sounded weird to me that they would want it back since they can kill without it. Yes, if they can ninja with it it makes it more plausible.

[Wisdom]

I can be down for a wis lynch

this is prolly mollie @ika

[Wisdom]

its just klaz/guyett

[Wisdom]

poe is gud

[Wisdom]

Wisdom: why isn't ooba on your scum list?

because he brought up that flames and om were suspicious for defending darklight, which I find unlikely if one of them is his partner

i guess it could be ooba/klaz though

[Wisdom]

ooba is scum

why?

[Wisdom]

mollie can you please unvote until we're done discussing? We don't need lolhammers and that's the third vote on ooba

[Wisdom]

none of those posts explain why ooba is scum. Most you said was "I have seen ooba trying to figure out things as scum" to counter my point about him being town.

@farside

[Wisdom]

and that last quote yeah but youd need to elaborate because its pretty generic

[Wisdom]

kay

[Wisdom]

I dont completely follow the flavor but @xay is there any way Om could have also known darklight is town? He acted like he knew he's town like Flames did, to the point he made me speculate all three are masons.

[Wisdom]

i think he said somewhere oracle isnt an item and he can use both it and an item

[Wisdom]

k, wk is what it was most likely

[Wisdom]

<3 mollie

[Wisdom]

ok nvm ooba is scum.

I just realized that he's saying he has been townreading Om from the beginning - when he actually said that Om and Flames were suspicious for WKing Darklight.

[Wisdom]

So either klaz/Guyett or ooba/Guyett. Guyett looks like the correct lynch here.

[Wisdom]

Not to mention he basically claimed scum and gave up

VOTE: guyett

[Wisdom]

Yes, and I also saw you bringing it up and not voting Guyett.

[Wisdom]

Not to mention you did the exact same thing. You were saying that Om and Flames were suspicious for the Darklight behavior yet not only you never pushed any of them, but you suddenly got an Om townread out of nowhere.

[Wisdom]

yeah we know you're also paranoid of me etc

[Wisdom]

so I knew both can't be scum

you knew that how?

[Wisdom]

would I really add my scum buddy to the 'no vig' knowing the pressure it brings and that I'll have to answer for it today?

yes? Why not?

[Wisdom]

If I was scum with Guy, I would have come in - guns blazing busing away - get cred for his lynch. Mislynch Klazam tomorrow and try and salvage something through WIFOM.

How is mislynching Klaz today and bus Guyett tomorrow any different?

[Wisdom]

pretty sure

[Wisdom]

anyways, guyett first, then we lynch both of you and we're good

[Wisdom]

guy and either klaz or ooba

[Wisdom]

if we lynch the one who's scum first, yeah

[Wisdom]

Kill wisdom

no pls

[Wisdom]

VOTE: klaz

Yeah too op town, don't feel bad guys

[Wisdom]

It was still fun, don't worry about it!