Mini 1670 - WTF MAFIA

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VOTE: Bins Hammered the game before giving it a chance to claim. Scummy as shit.

Shouldn't we know all the roles?

Do I know you


Btw I'm hated

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VOTE: flubbbby

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Menno are you actually being serious?

Why are you hated Bins?

My role PM says so

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What the heck is smalltown

Also Treestump isn't bastard, it's just non-normal

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Are you scum?

not today

just yogurt

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Oh god. Now I really hope Bins got scum randomly assigned to her, or I'm missing something huge about the rest of her role.

?

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VOTE: derangement

maybe this is just a misunderstanding.

I don't necessary want to deal with McMenno just yet. halts the start of the entire game.

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youre judging the strength of my role based on a claimable modifier?

huh.

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i don't really fear the fact that i'm hated. nor do i mind. i don't see why you should.

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Man, this is like deja vu.

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you should take that as confirmation that I plan to hammer the shit out of McMenno. I'm looking forward to it. In fact, I'm going to just go ahead and give

intent to hammer

right now. Whomever puts him at L-1 ... know that I'm gonna hammer the second I notice.

Whoa. Thank you!

Didn't expect we'd find a third-party that was pro-town enough to volunteer this quickly.

I don't think I'm ever going to understand what each of your posts mean.

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Listen up!

I am a third party survivor,

but...

I can vote in the afterlife, and if I'm killed, my win condition changes to see the faction that killed me lose! If I'm lynched, that faction will be that of the hammerer...

So,

in short, don't lynch me!

This role is basically a modified pseudo-jester.

I'm not comfortable with anyone hammering McMenno.

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Meh. It's used in like... Cracking Idea Mafia. My role is a mixture of like 4 different roles on that very list, so I'm not surprised.

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Ergo, he probably is a survivor and he added the rest of that bullshit to try and keep us from lynching him.

I doubt he'd do this. It'd be a stupid play.

It makes sense. I mean, avoid scumkills... avoid lynches...

You lynch pseudojester type roles once you have an obvtown. I don't see why he'd fakeclaim this. We

will

lynch him, but especially with a hammer alignment change, let's not get to... finicky.

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Is there any case where this guy doesn't need to be lynched?

ahem

I said he does. Not yet. Because for now, I DO TRUST HIS CLAIM.

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Menno's claim is distracting from scumhunting. Scum are capitalising on this.

VOTE: Derangement

Honestly, I think Drixx is the most suspicious for this reason but I have to look over.

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Bins claim makes sense and is not overly complicated while mcmennos does not. There's a difference.

Is there any case where this guy doesn't need to be lynched?

ahem

I said he does. Not yet. Because for now, I DO TRUST HIS CLAIM.

Because if we do descide to lynch him, we're going to distract scum hunting more by spending pages picking who hammers him.

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Oops, I don't know why I quoted elusive.

But @elusive, I did claim a 4-part role.

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It may sound like a claim that's too lopsided to be true, but then so does Bins being hated, for exactly the same reason.
(Heck, if they're both true, we might

already

in MyLo Maybe all scum are lovers to compensate?)

Wait, nvm.


Derangement, we're going to need to have another talk about what you mean by this.

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OOPS WHY DID IT QUOTE DRIXX MOBILE POSTING IS HARD.

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How does me being hated change the numbers at all?!

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Yes, but an extra vote on me is useless unless there's other votes on me.


Which I'm not going to let happen. I'll ask Ika if the Hated modifier even works in LYLO. It doesn't specify in my role PM.

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I'll get more worried in LYLO.

Ugh, the more right you get the more I regret claiming.

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Okay, no, I get what you're saying now.

I think we should let McMenno just sit for now and actually start scumhunting.

Your worry seems more genuine and less appeasing like I first read it.

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VOTE: Drixx

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I'm not hated in LYLO!

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We seem to have two camps of people on McMenno here, the camp that is just calling his role bullshit, and the camp that is worried it might be a real thing. My question is, does it matter which of the two it is? I see no problem leaving Menno alive as long as he is helping the town, and lynching him the second that stops, regardless of if he is telling the truth or not.

My problem is with the fact we're going to need to have the discussion about who hammers him and I'm not ready to do that yet.

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Why don't we just leave Menno to an investigator?

Lying or not, he's scum either way.

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well

that was cool

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@Brantz: can out with role info straight away (weird when McM did it, weird when she did it), then explained it was only part of a '4 part role', even though at least mine and elusive's were pretty short, and I feel like she's posted a lot without me being able to get an obvious read on her, which was very different to her style in our last game. I'm feeling the same way about Ricastle as well, tbh.

I claimed Hated right away because it's a good thing to claim. I expected a L-1 wagon right away in a game called "WTF Mafia."

I'm trying to change up my meta. My scum game and town game are too different.

but i can talk like this if you want me to if it eases your worry??

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Maifa is now a new faction.

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Uhm.

Urh.

You know that this is sort of likely town vig because... you know... shot scum. Could be third party... but... like... yeah...

Also, didn't you say you thought Drixx was town?

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But what was your reasoning by picking Drixx?

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I'm not hater in LYLO, I asked Ika.

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hehe hater

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I'm not scum, lurking seems like a scum tell for mcmenno.

I'd disagree. Even though I probably can't prove it.

Also, he's claimed third party -

a scum role not aligned with anything and is survivor-like.

I doubt he's going to be more useful than his town or scum game.

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I have no idea why this is a 1v1.

There are other people in this game that are scummy.


That said, I asked Ika and he said I'm not hated in LYLO. Lynching me is sort of stupid. Especially when you said you thought I was town.

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A PL on town is always dumb.

Can we stop distracting this game?

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Ok.

Let's search for scum and you can lynch me later.

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jfc bigger picture man

I'm waiting, Drixx. We gonna dance.

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Wait, I'm your biggest townread but also a nullread? also, I don't think 181 was the post you're looking for. but someone had said there was only one scum left so

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that's @wanderer

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oh god not this again.

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i don't want to have a fight about gender... those never end well.

i think i'll just call shos "she" and we'll call it even.

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@Bins 264: who even cares that much? I look at the pics when someone posts and most of the time I forget to look at gender and have to look it up when I address the person it concerns.

why r u asking me this is elusive post

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OH WHAT THE shiaf

i keep getting bellaphant and you mixed up lmao

b/c of avatars

i'm guilty

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i like the avatar

does anyone get the feeling like there's just something missing rn

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i guess i've been feeling that a lot lately and idk why

i like my vote where it is but it feels kind of useless

need a VC

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ika , for morning, jeanne, odd and derangement are way overdue a prod.

oh this might be it.

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sort of like a

"im not picking up on anything because theres nothign there" sort of feeling

which is irking me because i dont know if its because scum are lurkers or i'm just bad recently

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this is why early setup spec like what we did is bad

we should redo RVS -.-

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Elusive is definitely town, there's no doubt about that.

is this meta or just a feeling you're getting?

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.................. how do we have two people who havent posted in 4 days <_<

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you know if i had to pick between shos and derangement i'd probably pick shos just because he's not making any sense to me whatsoever

derangement......... really wanna wait for a replacement/her to post

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ika, have people been prodded


hehe maybe their role makes it so they can't talk

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nah derangement is site MIA

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brantz' logic/posts are very similar to how i feel and i dont know how that makes me feel

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.................. how do we have two people who havent posted in 4 days <_<

That happens sometimes. It's kind of irritating but sometimes people just forget or have something come up and deprioritize.

drixx i'd really like to hear your thoughts on the game

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can you hammer instead drixx

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o

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... we should probably lynch mcmenno

lmao

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but i should hammer

im not much of a detriment to the town if i get killed (if his power is some sort of supersainty thing)

but i am town

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im semi-vla! out of town. back on sunday :3

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I'm still reading just on mobile

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actually maybe we should ... lynch one of the people getting replaced.

thats really stupid of me to say but im kind of for it.

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honestly idk
theyre both equally null to me

derangement is a very swingy read of mine

i dont have to be the hammer

maybe yeah we should just stilck with shos

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Oh, I get it.

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Really tired tho.

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skimmed

royal saint seems town

cool

are we still waiting for a shos hammer? i dont mind wagonning titus.
do we have a DL?

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how about

titus hammer shos

or ric

fine with ric too

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i miss a few people

come back

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i dont think youre scum bella please dont trcik me again :3

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im not really sure how to read elusive. ii dont think im gon get a solid read on her untilw e get another flip.

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why cant i type at all today i am tooo tired.

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drixx man i wanted to talk to him

i thought he was more protown than this

i've been trying to read him all game but he's just *absent*

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i have no flavour :[

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which is funny because i am yohgurt

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i have no idea

and idk

wait did drixx appear and not say anything useful
wtf drixx

i think we should just end the day somehow pls
fine with a ric/titus lynch
ARS is cool
shos is trolly but honestly i can see him being town now

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i dont think shos is a supersaint?" he's like a governer thing when he gets hammered the hammer and someone he chooses become the lynch choices or something

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@Bins, are you still hated? Also, if shos is indeed that kind of governor, then what's the point of Jeanne?

"whats the point"

i dont know im not really questioning it until we actually find out.

wait is governer the word
no its gladiator? im getting confused. plus i dont think jeannes role is a normal gladiator. apparently she can make a lynch too? its wtf mafia im not gonna go far into the likeliness of roles.

and im still hated. i dont even know if flubber is the cause of my hatedness. because its in my role PM normally.

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jeannes a governer.

k

shos is like a gladiator

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I find it odd that you're hated but yet scum could make someone hated. That doesn't seem to make much sense.

*shrug*
wanna test it?

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ok

but then like

scummy people need to be voting him yay ~

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@563 and 565 Bins and Bella: it's weekend. First of all, 1 weekend counts for 24 hours according to site rules. Second, it's weekend, people go out, do things, get drunk, some of us (them) have lives.

thats not site rules lmao

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drixx isn't just "gone for the weekend."

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i thought i was voting shos

my mistake

VOTE: shos

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why is oddmusic on the vc

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ok

and yeah ric def hammers

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Best situation: Jeanne lynches Ric. Is Jeanne alive tho?

I'm pretty fine lynching Wanderer too. No Lynchinv would be dumb.

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VOTE: Bins

ARS is scum, so Wandering is a mislynch. Hehe. Thanks ARS.

don't really understand this

You know this has 3P....

also don't understand it
thought you were town reading me


Anyways
Will vote when not on mobile

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lmfao can you get a read that isn't theory >.>

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I don't see the townread cause theory > Scum read now

like Srs

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titus omg

im not going to worry abou tthis


VOTE: wanderer

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yeah dont hammer until jeanne shows up

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wat

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tbh i didnt wanna have to pick between me and wanderer <.< it does suck

but we gotta do

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No, we don't. No Lynch is a much better option than lynching someone nobody thinks is scum. What is the point?

uh

i dont know if theyre not scum

^ good reason

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ok

im a spoiled townie
i basically show up as yohgurt to cops and VT to role cop
i'm hated
and there's one other aspect i really don't want to claim because it makes me useless if i do. i don't use it during the day tho.

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no idea

can't remember who i've voted
probably just Drixx

i never actually thought of it like miller

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im pretty town

i think we should just chance at wanderer

could be scum

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but i am town

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Toxically stubborn is an apt definition of Titus at times, lol.

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if i had to guess i'd say wanderer is town

but i still think its better than a no lynch for info sake

i'd rather a me lynch than a no lynch
however, it does kill the only cool aspect of my role

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Toxically stubborn is an apt definition of Titus at times, lol.

Dried, if you are fucking townreading me vote Wanderer for the love of God.

wat

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Titus I think you need to slow down and just wrap ur head around the situation sometimes

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Titus I think you need to slow down and just wrap ur head around the situation sometimes

I have this fucking situation clear as a whistle. I am the fucking town most powerful role and getting mislynches like Choose Your Flavor again because of lies.

you just told someone to join the wanderer wagon

u aren't making a lot of sense to me at least >.> no idea where the read comes from

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Titus I think you need to slow down and just wrap ur head around the situation sometimes

I have this fucking situation clear as a whistle. I am the fucking town most powerful role and getting mislynches like Choose Your Flavor again because of lies.

"self=-preservtion"

are you in trouble q-q

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brantz i swear everything you say this game

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if you guys decide to lynch me my reads are basically BRantz's

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titus makes no sense to me but i dont think its a reason to jump to scumreading her

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jeanne do yoou "lynch" or "kill"?

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ARS protects Bins, so Bins is more linoleum.

how about bins is town

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I had planned on delivering Bins a stripper pole though.

YES!

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saint that was pretty wack

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PLS dont flashwagon me at DL because I'm hated >.>

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anyone who uses that logic *cough*shos*cough* should be shunned

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I can't believe this day ends like this
I should never play with newbies

dude stfu

most annoying shit to say

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On mobile so can't comment on the Titus stuff well


but Shos
seriously
some newbies can be better than you
they probably are if you have that attitude

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what if I told you you were Lynching town right now because shes hated

and you think you can call newbies worse / better / etc than you.

you aren't helping it.

I can't believe I'm playing with someone who blahblaglahablahah!!!!

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the first vc will go here!http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=60196
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=60004
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=61206

oddmusic:
Jeanne11
elusive:

McMenno

Flubbernugget:
Wanderer-nl
shos:

Wanderer-nl

BRantz
Derangement:

bins

Drixx:

bratz

McMenno:

Jeanne11, Flubbernugget, Derangement, elusive

Bellaphant
Ricastle:

Bellaphant

Bins: Ricastle

oddmusic, , , ,, , shos, Drixx, ,

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jfc

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Let's lynch Wanderer, let this day be over. I don't see the harm in letting her do what her role does. Just let her.

Tomorrow we'll discuss Titus vs. ARS.

But she might not be lying. I disagree with all of what she says. But I've had that happen before... actually, pretty much every game I play with her I disagree with something she stubbornly pushes. But if she actually is a investigative role LET HER INVESTIGATE. Or do you happen to know for a fact that she's lying or not? Don't make me freaking suspicious of you because you're being antitown as heck right now -- Titus scum or not.

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Oh, goodie.

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M_M

I don't believe that she massively roleblocks.

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But you can't say for certain that she's lying. And if she's not lying? Well, we just massively fucked her over. Even if she is being silly herself.

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Because guess what, dude. You can erase every VC in this game. But there's one you can't erase before night. THE LYNCH VC. Which will have more people.

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Oh, you can nuke at night too?


Ugh.

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How many of each alignment (town , scum and 3rd party) are voting Derangement as of this post).

That said, I think she is lying. Somewhat. Because this is freaking OP.

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Hm -- okay, I might actually slightly see where you're coming from. As fucked up as it is. But seriously, if Titus' role is what it is or similar. It could be a defining point of the game.

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I can't tell the difference between bad play and scum this game.

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@Bins: can you please stop promoting my lynch? A no-lynch from majority will end the day as well. I have to say, I too am just about ready to end this.

Ugh, no lynching gets us nowhere.

Fuck it. Actually.

Is a no lynch viable?

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Gladiates don't usually allow no lynches

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We'll probably both get lynched then.

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He has made effort to post content, though.

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BRantz' reads are solid and if I get lynched I'd rather you look at those.

He might be scum. 3p. But he has been trying to read.

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I remember his VLA notices more then any content.

He did catch up though. That's the big thing.

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Oh, I didn't see Wanderer's claim.

Ugh.

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Yeah, w/e. I just hope Wanderer isn't lying w/ the investigative claim. It's an easy fake-claim. Especially since I claimed Miller-ish.

Anyways, my full role is just a Treestump in the event that I'm killed.

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I did want a stripper pole from you Drixx but it's okay~