CI1656: Hearthstone Mafia (GAME OVER)

[Krystal Bald]

oh dear, that was quite the slip freekazoid :s


ds - i changed my vote because i thought tere was town. nikanor put it on RMM and i moved it

[Krystal Bald]

heh, greetings

VOTE: freekazoid

i promise you, i will not fall for your pleads that dragonspawn is scum.. this time!


that and you clearly tried to shift the wagon from mac to RMM

goodbye, scum

[Krystal Bald]

...well played

[Krystal Bald]

who will you vote for, freek?

[Krystal Bald]

Are you guys sync'd on this read or should I expect tiding s of dissonance in the near future?

We're synched.

freekazoid tracked Grib to ika night one. That's why Grib died n2 and why ika died last night.
It is known.

[Krystal Bald]

^heh

[Krystal Bald]

we are Millhouse Manastor, VT

so reck has to be neighbourizer

[Krystal Bald]

But where do you get the tracking grib to ika comment? It makes no sense.

we surmised that that was probably the case.
it makes sense i think, in explaining why ika was nightkilled. because i think it was more obvious to scum that he was indeed confirmed town.

[Krystal Bald]

I'm not sure how you got ika as town confirmed though.

i actually didn't have him as confirmed town at all.

until we started thinking that ika was killed probably because scum actually tracked grib to ika.
you know, when you know something as scum, it's more obvious to you, so you subconsciously act on it
(in this case, that scum knew that ika was confirmed)

do you know what i mean?

[Krystal Bald]

how convenient

[Krystal Bald]

Well it looks like to me that KB is making up stories to push our lynch.

vote: KB

Also I would fine now with our lynch now that KB has confirmed himself as scum

OK then go ahead and self-vote please.

[Krystal Bald]

now you have somewhere to fake put your vote!

[Krystal Bald]

I'm not sure how you got ika as town confirmed though.

The main point is that the Grib kill was a fantastic shot and I don't think that scum would have killed him if they did not have an investigative result on him.
I also believe that the ika kill was very strange, since he claimed both VT and that he didn't give a shit about the game, and he wasn't confirmed town. The only way that kill makes sense is if the scum is coming from the perspective that ika is 100% confirmed town.
Those two reasons are why I think that freek tracked Grib to ika night one.

[Krystal Bald]

So you think he is a scum tracker?

that's what we were thinking. but nikanor has another theory, that he's going to post

[Krystal Bald]

I was telling brantz that KB was a bit more of a scum read because we tracked grib to them.

how does that make sense though? how would we have known that grib was tracking us, so we killed him :s

[Krystal Bald]

Spoiler: Setup spec done in memory of ika

Green is town vanilla, orange is town power role, red is mafia. Italics is confirmed power, bold is dead.

Player	Role	Flavour	Actions
xRECKONERx	?	?	?
Krystal Bald	Townie	Millhouse Manastorm	-
dragonspawn	1-shot Bulletproof	Shielded Minibot	-
the freekazoid	Tracker	Savannah Highmane	Tracked ABR nowhere night one, tracked Grib to KB night two, tracked RM nowhere night three
AngryPidgeon	1-shot Vigilante	Fire Elemental	Manablocked night one, shot killerjester night two
RationalMadman	Townie	?	Confirmed town
prawneater	Vigilante Giver	Dark Iron Dwarf	Lynched day one
Albert B. Rampage	Townie	Shieldmaiden	Killed night one
Sonic Heroes	Townie	Micro Machine	Lynched day two
Grib	Cop	Nerubian Egg	Killed night two
killerjester	Roleblocker	Loatheb	Manablocked AngryPidgeon night one, killed night two
Mac	Goon	Gadgetzan Auctioneer	Lynched day three
ika	Townie	Big Game Hunter	Killed night three

Unclaimed: Neighborized SH And RM night zero, neighborized RM and KB night one, neighborized freekazoid and Mac night two, neighborized AP and Reck night three

I'll save my setup spec for later, after Reck & RM claim.

[Krystal Bald]

And if freek is fakeclaiming, why would he town confirm rational? Why would scum town confirm anyone if they can win with two mislynches?

Let's just say that I do not regard freekazoid's play very highly.

[Krystal Bald]

ok.
dragonspawn is the only one who hasn't been neighbourized
UNVOTE: freekazoid
VOTE: dragonspawn

[Krystal Bald]

Wait, other people claimed neighborized? What?

ya everyone who has been neighbourized each day has stated it.

it was klazam and sonic hero night 0
klazam and us, night 1
freek and mac, night 2

and then you were neighbourized with AP last night, right?


dragonspawn is the only one who hasn't been. maybe the neighbourizer can't neighbourize themselves.

[Krystal Bald]

Mini 1656: Hearthstone Mafia

has filled for theelkspeaks with the following player list:

Albert B. Rampage
killerjester
prawneater
xRECKONERx
ActionDan
the freekazoid
Mantisdreamz
Sonic Heroes
dragonspawn
Klazam
JasonWazza
Grib
ika

Still taking sign-ups: Marquis's Taylor Swift UPick (13 players)

Now taking sign-ups: Jingle's The Lost Room Mafia (13 players)

Look at the list. SH and Klazam, the night zero neighborizing, were above and below dragonspawn in the player list.

[Krystal Bald]

He's probably Argus Defender or some shit.

[Krystal Bald]

ok.
dragonspawn is the only one who hasn't been neighbourized
UNVOTE: freekazoid
VOTE: dragonspawn

I freely admit not being neighborhood. But if I'm a scum neighborhood how could I do a nk and neighborize on the same night?

And why would I claim bp instead of just claim neighborizor?

Don't care, die please.

[Krystal Bald]

Wait, other people claimed neighborized? What?

ya everyone who has been neighbourized each day has stated it.

it was klazam and sonic hero night 0
klazam and us, night 1
freek and mac, night 2

and then you were neighbourized with AP last night, right?


dragonspawn is the only one who hasn't been. maybe the neighbourizer can't neighbourize themselves.

Where is rational in that?

Does a neighborizor visit anyone when they neighborize?

If rational did neighborize people does that mean freek is lying about tracking?

why are you bringing up rationalmadman?

[Krystal Bald]

RationalMadman replaced Klazam, his slot's been neighborized.
Ninja Neighborizer is an absurd suggestion.
Randomness is considered bastard and this isn't a bastard game.

[Krystal Bald]

yes, you could still do both; don't be silly

[Krystal Bald]

Why would I claim bullet proof if I'm a neighborizor?

There were two vigs claimed and you're scum.

[Krystal Bald]

He's probably Argus Defender or some shit.

And what is an Argus defender?

Gtfo

[Krystal Bald]

Wait, other people claimed neighborized? What?

ya everyone who has been neighbourized each day has stated it.

it was klazam and sonic hero night 0
klazam and us, night 1
freek and mac, night 2

and then you were neighbourized with AP last night, right?


dragonspawn is the only one who hasn't been. maybe the neighbourizer can't neighbourize themselves.

Where is rational in that?

Does a neighborizor visit anyone when they neighborize?

If rational did neighborize people does that mean freek is lying about tracking?

why are you bringing up rationalmadman?

Because he hasn't claimed.

If he is a neighborizor and visited two people to neighborize them freek would be lying wouldn't He?

At least if the neighborizor visits people.

Why would I claim bullet proof if I'm a neighborizor?

well ya, if he does claim that, then freek is def lying

that would be a huge slip on their part, if she was lying though. it would be way too careless

[Krystal Bald]

1) I can't link the n0 neighborization, Klazam told me in the neighborhood on d2. RationalMadman should be able to corroborate though.
2) AP claimed it.

[Krystal Bald]

He's probably Argus Defender or some shit.

And what is an Argus defender?

Gtfo

Why do you suspect Argus defender?

here's the card,


it acts on 2 minions that it's sandwiched between

[Krystal Bald]

idfk why scum is hiding it. like what the fuck, this is so stupid.

He claimed bulletproof on d1, he can't reclaim neighborizer.

[Krystal Bald]

sorry^

[Krystal Bald]

Random mechanics are bastard and therefore impossible.
The first two neighbors were above and below dragonspawn on the playerlist. There are like a million cards that do that kind of thing.

[Krystal Bald]

where is this rational madman

what do you guys want to do?


happy scumday dragonspawn

[Krystal Bald]

dragonspawn is literally 100% caught. I don't understand why he hasn't been lynched yet.

[Krystal Bald]

Random mechanics are bastard and therefore impossible.
The first two neighbors were above and below dragonspawn on the playerlist. There are like a million cards that do that kind of thing.

Uhhhhh, no?

A random neighborize every night is not really bastard. Bastard is shit like cults and lying to players in their role PMs. A neighborize that isn't part of a roll is just quirky.

What was the flavor of your neighborhood? Reck and I's mentions something about being invited to the inn which frankly looks like a game mechanic to me based on flavor. I cant think what card would possibly do that.

I was thinking of the large theme queue, where random elements are explicitly bastard. Guess that's not a universal rule (yet).
If the only reason for why you haven't voted for dragonspawn is because you think that the neighborizing might be an unannounced random mod mechanic then maybe you should start reconsidering the choices you made in life that led you down this road.

[Krystal Bald]

When you two are done jerking each other off can you kindly explain to me how it makes sense for the town to have a tracker, one-shot bulletproof, one-shot vig, one-shot vig-giver, and x-shot cop against a neighborizer and a one-shot roleblocker?

[Krystal Bald]

AP was blocked n1 and not n2.
idk, maybe the scum decided they wanted to die at night and didn't block AP for that reason! I really don't know. But the obvious assumption is that kj was one-shot.

[Krystal Bald]

Like, you also didn't ask about why I called Grib x-shot. I don't actually know, but it's the safe assumption.

[Krystal Bald]

It just makes ZERO SENSE for KB to scum, balance-wise. It's basically the only thing holding me back.

If KB is scum, the 1-shot RB thing was a slip. Which means scum don't even have a full RB, they have a dinky 1-shot RB against all this town power? Because KB claimed VT, so that would mean every other PR claim is legit.

I can't fathom a role KB could have that would make up for that much town power vs Goon & 1-shot RB.

AP was the first to suggest one-shot RB, fwiw.

[Krystal Bald]

You mean, on the off chance that the neighborhoods are a random unannounced mod mechanic with no real purpose?
In that case I'd lynch myself to spite the mod.

I also don't have to give a reason for why *you* claimed bulletproof, you're leaning on the fact that you played poorly as scum to defend yourself and I am sickened that you have not yet been lynched.

[Krystal Bald]

That's it guys, guess it's time for me to come clean. I'm actually an Explosive Sheep, and my role is Mega-Saint. When I die, I kill all the scum and win.

There, now I'm confirmed town, because why on Azeroth would I claim that as scum?

[Krystal Bald]

He hasn't claimed. I'm just assuming freek isn't a complete moron.
dragonspawn, you still haven't explained why I'd claim mega-saint as scum. Until you can do that, I suggest moving your vote.

[Krystal Bald]

Whatever, I'm done posting. I have no more words for this game and if you can't see that dragonspawn is scum then just lynch me because I honestly have spent all of my fucks elsewhere today.

[Krystal Bald]

sorry elk, i hope you don't feel bad. it's probably annoying being a mod sometimes;

but ya, waiting on RMM as well.


either that - or freek could hammer?

not sure what the hold up is. i mean, even if you did think we were scum, freek, (in which we're not)... you have tomorrow to push us, even if dragonspawn flips town (which he probably won't)


i actually wondered earlier, if freek was *waiting* for someone to tell them to hammer, in order to not take full responsibility, if DS were to happen to flip town.

...i can see that

[Krystal Bald]

just on an unrelated note, and this is for pure venting reasons -

i really do not understand how someone can sub into a game, and give 0 effort. it's pretty freaking rude... and kinda disrespectful.

you suck, RMM (at least in this game, and what you have done so far) <.<

[Krystal Bald]

dragonspawn, my scummish friend, i imagine it's not anytime soon.

i note your increased interest in the game, now that you have the noose near to your neck

[Krystal Bald]

I'm vt, but I have two more PMS t read. Mobile, but I'll read em tonight.

I should be able to read fully tomorrow. Anything I should know until then.

You can save yourself a world of trouble by voting dragonspawn. We were waiting on your appearance because freekazoid is a prat and refuses to hammer despite a mountain of evidence against dragonspawn.

[Krystal Bald]

Your mother, that's what.

[Krystal Bald]

Jingle, if you actually think that the neighborization is an unannounced random mod mechanic just because the name uses the word Inn then I really have nothing to say to you. Get real, please and thanks. dragonspawn is caught scum. He's the only one who hasn't been neighborized. The d1 neighbors started on either side of them in the player list so dragonspawn is likely Flametongue Totem or Dire Wolf Alpha or Argus Defender or etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

[Krystal Bald]

Like, this really is not that difficult. Do you know how often mods use unannounced completely random mechanics? No? That's because maybe it never actually happens? And maybe dragonspawn is just really obviously scum?

[Krystal Bald]

More a jump than assuming it's an unannounced random mod mechanic? Ok then.

[Krystal Bald]

Just hammer dragonspawn, if I'm wrong just lynch me tomorrow, idgaf, I just want this awful awful game to be over.

[Krystal Bald]

hi reck
VOTE: reckoner

[Krystal Bald]

why do you not vote for us?

[Krystal Bald]

if you had killed jingle, it would have been better... because we would have certainly voted freekazoid

[Krystal Bald]

^

[Krystal Bald]

hope orlamdo is fun

[Krystal Bald]

ok
UNVOTE: reckoner

i prob need to think more on this...

[Krystal Bald]

I do want to think about the ninja possibility a little bit. It'd be shitty to lose to a ninja clear.

But also I won't feel too bad about losing to jingle if he is a ninja. Setup is already pretty wack either way as Reck is saying.

jingle is rationalmadman who was tere... tere was not scum

[Krystal Bald]

reck or AP.

i liked reck's past posts.


reck - would you actually be able to talk with me about the possibility of it being AP?

[Krystal Bald]

AP was JasonWazza, who i thought didn't shout enough this game, to be town. JW always shouts a lot

[Krystal Bald]

AP - VOTE RECK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you know my town game by now, yes?


it IS NOT US. i'm uncertain of what jingle might do... because i've only played with him once.
but if your unsure, ask me a billion questions and i can answer.

i don't want to lose after spending so much freaking time with this game

Twice, I think?

We played in AP's everyone but Jingle gets a fucking PT game, where I obvtowned and you were a mason. And I'm pretty sure we played before that.

Also, shuttup, I'm talking at AP here, so that I can have input before I make him choose.

oh ya
i read that last bit and thought:
*insert fist shaking to the sky emoticon* .. is what i should post to him

[Krystal Bald]

should really be on this forum

[Krystal Bald]

reck - would you actually be able to talk with me about the possibility of it being AP?

AP confirmed he was the one who killed KJ... how could it possibly be AP?

The Innkeeper makes sense as an SK, which would seem to implicate AP. But I think you just scumslipped by forgetting about the possibility of an SK.

Vote: xRECKONERx.

[Krystal Bald]

UNVOTE: reckoner

VOTE: AP


sorry guys, i know this is confusing.

i asked nik if it was ok if i vote AP instead, because i don't think reck is scum, and i don't think he scum slipped.

if i'm wrong, so be it

[Krystal Bald]

It's not Jingle.

I'm having a really hard time getting emotionally involved in this game. If it's still going when I'm not sick, I'll do some VCA because apparently no one wanted to do the homework I gave them.

also, i don't blame you for not being emotionally involved. i don't really think anyone is. it's kind of a crap shoot.


reck seems more town than AP, right at this moment though.

[Krystal Bald]

that ugly smiley was supposed to be: :p