CI1656: Hearthstone Mafia (GAME OVER)

[Mantisdreamz]

hello all

[Mantisdreamz]

/confirrrmgggrrngrrngngrrngngngregg

murlock? :p

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Only 2 town reads so far. That's pretty disappointing.

Ika: what's going on with you and that entrance. Pretty bland.

who are the town reads, and why?

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unvote

vote: mantisdream

Why no vote?

i'm not sure. i posted hello and then looked at all the posts. does it really bug you when ppl don't vote right away? you said the same to freezoid

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i don't really like rvs all that much!

i'm sure i'll get paranoid enough in time

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^yea, i was thinking of voting klazam as well.

VOTE: klazam

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@mod

- is it possible to sub into the game as a hydra? it would be 'krystal bald' (w/ nikanor)

going to catch up later, i don't mean to be uninterested, just busy, hence the request to sub in as a hydra

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^heh ^-^

so far i like grib a lot. and i think i might like klazam too

UNVOTE: klazam

i do not like sonic's trolling, being funnyish though. cause, i remember anti doing a lot more in your face scum hunting, when i played with him before

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also do not like reckoner's or killerjester's vote on grib in posts 51 & 52

[Mantisdreamz]

A couple of posts ago, you said that:

These three week Days are going to kill me.

Well, it's always good to have a positive attitude towards the game.

I'm not sure how not being able to express your emotions in a healthy way leads you to conclude to vote Anti. He appears to be a positive, motivational presence, so I hope that your emotions are that of a optimistic nature as well.

Do you think that the others voting you have posted much content? Why not xRECKONERx? Would you expect more content from killerjester after your accusation that he is "scum"?

If the middle spot on a wagon is a "Magic Hellspot", how is it safe? Won't people be examining those on the middle spot in order to look for scum, if that is the case?

Can you elaborate how you identify town or scum based on entrances?

your 1st, 2nd & 3rd sentences ... you are messing around, right..?

how come you're looking so deeply into this vote of grib's when he already explained that he was flailing around in the dark, at who might have been the scum vote on him?

i actually think you guys need to do more explaining in terms of your reads, then trying to squeeze any more out of the townish looking grib. for example, all you have done up to this post, is vote grib and exclaim his name a few times

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(i still have to finish reading though) ..maybe you have said more >.>

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Only 2 town reads so far. That's pretty disappointing.

Ika: what's going on with you and that entrance. Pretty bland.

who are the town reads, and why?

Killjester and grib.

Why do you want to know.

Klaz add to town spot.

Sonic: why you trolling grib here?

i wanted to know, because for some strange reason you felt like not stating them?

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If that's to you, your plain stupid. And if you want to lynch me for it than go ahead. Town will only hurt itself by doing so.

It's way too early for this passive-aggressive bullshit. You should back this statement up by catching scum instead of trying this weak manipulation shtick.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: dragonspawn

it doesn't really sound passive aggressive.. maybe he really is mad, because he really *was* just picking one out of reck and kj, since it's true - they both did look scummy.

though, i also do not like reck now. because as well as the vote, his fuss on the past game grib had mentioned, was weird.

ika seems cute and town

[Mantisdreamz]

still good w/ my mantis vote

of course you are, scum :p

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Well, yeah, but. That's stupid. "If you lynch me town will be doomed!" when you've been acting scummy is bad townplay, especially when we're nowhere near the deaadline.

problem is I haven't been scummy

^i actually agree with that statement

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still good w/ my mantis vote

But...but dragon...

elementary my dear grib

mantis is sticking to the farsidehydra a lot more than is rationally justifiable Post 105. asking about the town reads

it's because he stated he had town reads and didn't list them! i mean, he had to know that someone was going to have to ask him about it. also - klazam vote. was because i was barely skimming the thread, and it just so happened i also wasn't too sure of him, because he made a little something out of not having a vote down in rvs. i do not think rvs is that important. i think it indeed does give scum a good chance to place a joking vote, when otherwise, it's more difficult for scum to place their vote in a place that seems nonchalant.

Post 45 kind of pinged to me to begin with but then once farside asked why there was never a follow up answer. Post 49 is kinda' awkward and the line about paranoia seems overwrought.

meh, it's true because it sometimes takes a little for me to find scum reads, and then when it happens, i post way too much. ...

on a separate note, albert b rampage - please come play soon

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though, i also do not like reck now. because as well as the vote, his fuss on the past game grib had mentioned, was weird.

adjectives are dumb, why was it weird

because it seemed like a strange thing to nit pick over. and.. it didn't have any real bearing on the game we're playing right now. i know how it's a tendency for scum to want to talk about other things other than what's going on in the current game.. cause it's kind of like a mini break from having to play the actual game.

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anti asking me to sheep him is giving me tingly vibes. also doesn't help anti keeps being scum in games against me

unless you're alt stalking me or you're talking about the f2f games last summer, the last game we were in (other than the one game we can't talk about yet) was inhim's deadmines back in 2011.

what games do i "keep" being anything with you?

AND

let's grant the premise that i "keep" being scum in games with you. if you're doing fuckall, why would me asking you to sheep me and build a wagon be scummy?

uhhhh???? Winter's Dance thing? [ongoing game]? Maybe one more I'm too lazy to look up yet? So basically any game I've played with you SINCE 2011 you've been scum lmao, so yes, "keep" being scum is fucking relevant

And idk, your style/tone seems very similar to what I remember back in Winter's Dance specifically.

see... you are talking about other games again!

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I don't get why Mantis will engage some people but not others.

compare her posts questioning Sonic Heroes to her posts about me

"in depth discussion/analysis" versus "I dont like the vote"

Idgi

there's no conscious deciding on who i'm trying to engage. you have to admit, you're vote on grib was... naked (like other's have mentioned). and ya.. without reason. just plopped there.. and imo, he seemed the most town up to that point in reading.

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wait JasonWazza is a player in this game? lmao

ikr. when i saw that he was in this game, i expected to be presented by large shouty-capital letter posts by him. i have yet to see any. he did say he was busy with work though, but hmm.

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OH GOOD ANOTHER TOWN THAT HAS NO CLUE HOW TO USE WORDS TO EXPLAIN THEIR THOUGHTS YAYY

i fucking hate this goddamned site

how do you know he is town, hm?

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I'm totally fine with killing Mantisdreamz today.

of course you are, scum :p

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there's no conscious deciding on who i'm trying to engage. you have to admit, you're vote on grib was... naked (like other's have mentioned). and ya.. without reason. just plopped there.. and imo, he seemed the most town up to that point in reading.

Reck voted Grib in 51. You're saying that you already had a townread on Grib? Based on what exactly?

gut. he seemed the most sincere in his posting ways

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VOTE: sonic hero

prawn and freek seem like scum to me as well.


reck maybe - but i am skeptical about that cause he might just be an over seasoned mafia player who doesn't bother to try too much, when town.

after his vote, KJ doesn't actually look that bad.

i like ika, grib, klazam, actiondan, and dragonspawn for town (so far)

abr is /la and jason wazza isn't shouting enough, to get a proper town read


crosspost prawn eater

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OH GOOD ANOTHER TOWN THAT HAS NO CLUE HOW TO USE WORDS TO EXPLAIN THEIR THOUGHTS YAYY

i fucking hate this goddamned site

..you love it. you can't stay away

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Only 2 town reads so far. That's pretty disappointing.

Ika: what's going on with you and that entrance. Pretty bland.

who are the town reads, and why?

Killjester and grib.

Why do you want to know.

Klaz add to town spot.

Sonic: why you trolling grib here?

i wanted to know, because for some strange reason you felt like not stating them?

also hey - i just checked .. and, killerjester had posted these posts, before your post #33:

/confirming that mages are overpowered garbage

VOTE: Klazam

...explain how you had a town read on him, por favor

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I don't get why Mantis will engage some people but not others.

compare her posts questioning Sonic Heroes to her posts about me

"in depth discussion/analysis" versus "I dont like the vote"

Idgi

there's no conscious deciding on who i'm trying to engage. you have to admit, you're vote on grib was... naked (like other's have mentioned). and ya.. without reason. just plopped there.. and imo, he seemed the most town up to that point in reading.

Here's the series of events:
- Grib: "Reck will be an easy read"
- Me: "Uhhh not sure where that's coming from"
- Grib: "lol yeah it was basically BS"
- Me: "vote Grib"

GEE I WONDER WHY THE FUCK I VOTED HIM. HMMMM. IT'S ALMOST LIKE ANYONE WHO ACTUALLY

READ THE FUCKING THREAD

COULD FIGURE THAT OUT

oh, you like doing the shouty thing too.

look at what i have discovered with my last post, in regards to freek. ...he could be scum! ...(post 266) >.>

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so ...we're just gonna ignore the fact that you said i had no reason and then I pointed out the exact sequence of events that shows my reason?

well actually, you did seem to make more of a deal of it than necessary. grib didn't *actually* say 'oh, heh it's just bs' .. he said that you should be an easy read cause he's played with you, is familiar with you. and you got all uppity upon that statement, for who knows why.

maybe i have to reread it.. but that was the gist of what i got.

anyway, look at freek's declaration about killerjester being one of his two town reads after a mere 2 posts!! a confirmation and rvs vote!

freek, i am not having trouble coming up with town reads. ? i stated my town reads loud and clear. whoever it was posting, and stating that they had town reads, should have posted WHO they were...otherwise, expect someone to ask that of you.

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@ Mantis

Why are you scumreading freek?

because - did you see what i said?? he claimed killerjester was a town read of his in post #33. in the meantime, killerjester had posted THIS before that post:

/confirming that mages are overpowered garbage

VOTE: Klazam

...pure unadulterated bs!


UNVOTE: sonic
VOTE: freekazoid

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Dan: how can you make such a large post that says so little?

It's not THAT large. don't let the quotes fool you. That said, what in particular irks you?

I thought the things you pointed out as scummy was a big whooping yawn fest. It wasn't really scummy in my view and it just seemed like you cherry picked some quotes you could respond to without making a lot of analysis.

Only 2 town reads so far. That's pretty disappointing.

Ika: what's going on with you and that entrance. Pretty bland.

who are the town reads, and why?

Killjester and grib.

Why do you want to know.

Klaz add to town spot.

Sonic: why you trolling grib here?

i wanted to know, because for some strange reason you felt like not stating them?

People have town reads all the time. Why did you need to know the reason for them?

stating your town READS.. the why was a bonus. but ya. you needed to have stated who you were town reading rather then being like "ya, i've got some town reads folks"

and then when i looked into it, i discovered your weird ass town read on killerjester

[Mantisdreamz]

i asked him if it was okay, because i'm super busy with work, and am out of town. nik knows the gist of the game.

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theres no way ABR is town
UNVOTE: prawneater
VOTE: ABR

Unless you've played with him elsewhere. Then you know it's par for the course.

we played as a hydra with ABR last month in - http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=60469
and then i played with him several months ago in this game - http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=59131

in the first link, he was a little frustrated i think and didn't want to try too hard, but he was way different.
in the last link, he posted a ton and tried.

he was town in both. there's not caring as town, which comes across as kind of obvious a lot of times. and then there's just not caring at alll.. which is how he seems here. how can he think that freek and us are scum together?

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no no, tere had to be town

UNVOTE: RMM
VOTE: mac

[Mantisdreamz]

I'm wondering if the neighborize thing is just a setup mechanic and not anybody's role? Maybe the mod is just randomly neighborizing 2 people every night. I'd be surprised if someone in the game had an N0 action.

hmmm

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it really did seem like freek was trying to move the wagon to RMM, rather than mac

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freek should have hammered you before making the mod get a replacement. it's not like we were in lynch or lose territory.

i feel very bad for making jingle read the whole thread and have to take this responsibility on, when DS should have just been hammered by freek.

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it's very irritating.

there is no reason to not hammer DS

1)it's not lynch or lose,
2)since there is no neigbourizer claim, DS is very probably that role. esp since he is the only one who HAS NOT been neighbourized.
3)he claimed bulletproof, would be a great thing to claim as scum, with a 1 shot vig, and a vig giver this game.

^3 great reasons to hammer


i do not understand in the slightest why freek would not have hammered. rather then inconveniencing the mod and now the replacement.

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not to mention, from scum's pov - they had to get rid of the town tracker.

-_-

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if you allow reckoner to win as scum, when he has coasted the whole game.

i'm going to track you down, jingle, and eat your pets/babies/whatever loved thing you possess

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AP - VOTE RECK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you know my town game by now, yes?


it IS NOT US. i'm uncertain of what jingle might do... because i've only played with him once.
but if your unsure, ask me a billion questions and i can answer.

i don't want to lose after spending so much freaking time with this game

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*you're >.>

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Uhhh so you think AP is a mafia vigilante?

no, i was thinking SK/inkeeper

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calm yourself AP.

reck just was appealing to me as being town. and it's not jingle, and SK + innkeeper role, seems pretty suiting together in one little package.


nik still thinks it's reckoner, but doesn't care about the game anymore. plus, he probably doesn't want to deal with my back and forth on you & reck.



freek died because she was claimed town tracker.


nice that you slipped that bit in there about how it was convenient that she died.



i guess i should really be talking to jingle right now.. because he's the only one who is confirmed.

jingle - talk to me, maybe?

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jingle - talk to me, maybe?

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i didn't like AP's non reaction to this post:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p6891110

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i was being really sincere... and it was at that point i actually thought it was reck.

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yet this is how he responded:

I do want to think about the ninja possibility a little bit. It'd be shitty to lose to a ninja clear.

But also I won't feel too bad about losing to jingle if he is a ninja. Setup is already pretty wack either way as Reck is saying.

lame crap about ninja's.


AP! i even asked you to ask me a billion questions if you needed to get a better scope of whether or not i was genuine posting or not.

i've played a ton of games on other forums, and this is what town in lylo does.
they question every other player in lylo as much as they can, in order to get a good feel for their answers, and then make a judgement.

your lack of doing so, makes me think you are not town.

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I'm totally aware that freek was a claimed pr, lol.

then why did you put that bit in about how it was convenient that she died?

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is everyone in this game just a jerk?

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i actually hope you are scum AP, cause i thought you were nicer

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please let us end this gobforsaken game

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mantis saw that the push on me wasn't working and went for a hail mary against AP to try and swing me since AP was leaning against her

not really reck. i was just mad at AP.

it really does bug me that in this game people don't really seem to be interested in end game? and whatever reactions they can out of who is left. it's odd. i thought AP to be someone who does that kind of thing.


it actually has come to the point where i could care less if town loses.

which in turn makes me feel bad saying that, because theelkspeaks reads this game, and i don't want him to think that his game was not enjoyable for others.

TES - it was.

Spoiler:

anyway, my vote stays on AP.

you guys do what you will.

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actually, jingle if it is somehow 2-1-1

we've lost anyway

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I think jingle is confirmed.

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Mantis, Nik, if you're town, I'm sorry.

s'ok

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UNVOTE: AP

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indeed

VOTE: reck

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AP, come speak at me. I'm town, you're town. I think reck is town because I doubt scum joins a wagon with both of their buddies out of the blue on D1. Do you agree?

i've done it.

on the flip side, why do you think we are scum?

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what do you expect him to say? he's already decided.

hammer away, we lose, assholes.

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i don't understand why you made everyone wait so long, AP.


i know that everyone gets busy... but still. it was very frustrating to others in the game, when all we wanted was to get it over with. it was super inconsiderate, making us sit here and check the thread each day to see if you had posted/hammered.

i am aware this sounds whiny, but it's true. you should know that you have caused annoyance. (normally, i feel bad about saying these types of things to people)... but since it's so very true, in this case... i'm saying it anyway.


...also, your hammer is going to result in a town loss! just saying...

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AP, come speak at me. I'm town, you're town. I think reck is town because I doubt scum joins a wagon with both of their buddies out of the blue on D1. Do you agree?

i've done it.

on the flip side, why do you think we are scum?

The back and forth with freek didn't read as TvT to me, and the way the scum danced around your wagon D1 was kinda suspicious. But more than that is that I don't think Reck is scum.

It's not a cut and dry LYLO by any means, but I don't know that there's much left to be said either.

yeap. you're going to think whatever you're going to think.. and i can't convince you otherwise.

plus... you subbed in. so it's more difficult to get a proper stance on everything, i think.

you chose wrong though.

at this point i really realllllllly don't care though.

i just ... as you can see in my latest post... just want to game to be concluded with.

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i mean.. if i can convince you.. i can show you some of reck's posts that i found super weird

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also Jingle - if you look at the iso's ..maybe you will see that we have been posting genuinely?

i know that it's hard to distinguish.

but take a look at reck's posts specifically, after albert was nk'ed. that may give you an idea, of the weirdness that reck was executing.

i don't have much more to say, other than that.

just am wanting you to read our posts as genuine & town, since they were.

this is my last ditch effort!!

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Also, I am actually pretty damn proud of my play here and I am sad that apathy consumed this game. I found Tere's bout in this game to be really really unprofessional (for lack of a better term) and I think her behavior did a lot towards killing this game. Also I'm sorry Mantis/KB, I was being a little blatantly pushy/scummy in the last Day phase because I was scum and actually had the win in striking distance.

that's ok AP.

i was going a little bit crazy towards the end... and for my own sake, i'll say that i'm a bit glad that my flip flopping between you and reck was justified!

i was becoming very frustrated, and i apologize for being rude to both you and reck.

i was trying as much as i could to reach out to jingle.. but i know he was busy, and not completely able to put in the time for the game. (i was pretty much asking him to review mine and reck's ISO and compare them both). kinda sucks.

i also agree re tere. and i know it's rude to say, but i was confused, i think is the best word, to why she was not wanting to interact. i think i was overly pushy towards her, after she stated that she wanted me to leave her alone for a bit. it just bugged me. the part of me that wanted to keep poking her, for requesting to be left alone in a mafia game, overtook the part of me that could have potentially been understanding to that.

i've played with her on my home forum a bunch of times, so it was weird. i was hoping that because of that we would have more reason to figure out each other's alignments.


anywho. thanks for the game theeelspeaks.

were

you

the neighbourizer?

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I am sorry, KB, and I came close to voting reck. Also AP, you're a dick. You should've hammered when the quickhammer ensured your win. Dick.

you should have engaged with me, you slacker!

Spoiler:

(it's ok)