Mini 1679: Baccano! Mafia - Game Over

[JohnnyFarrar]

Mainez's Avatar makes me happy.

@Ari flavor doesn't always fit roles here. I've played games where the main characters of series end up being VT or even scum.

I was hoping more would have happened. Sigh.

VOTE: Bro for being dumb or something. Tell me why Ari.

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tfw Toast townread

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I vaguely considered saying something about your grammar.

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VOTE: Bro for being dumb or something. Tell me why Ari.

Does anyone in this game have experience with you? I want to ask them a question about your competency.

Way to not answer me, babe. (also I'm blushing because I feel like Ari's got nice things to say about me )

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@JohnnyFarrar
can you say something regarding the game, i don't really like the 4 posts you have made thus far.

What's not to like? I have nothing of substance to say just yet.

Also who's here? I'd like to have a back and forth.

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because there's nothing of note to talk about. Is there something you think I should have an opinion on?

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Noteworthy? Yeah. Am I any closer to deciding who to lynch because of it? no. Unless you'd like to convince me otherwise?

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Opinions I have, nothing pressing yet though. Who should I vote, Mika?

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Can't tell if you're super cautious or you're both just typing a lot. Don't think too hard and just talk to me.

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dude I asked a bunch of questions, you gotta answer them before I answer yours ;-;

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going to watch Fate/Stay Night brb

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@Main - Weird timezone you live in

Opinions I have, nothing pressing yet though. Who should I vote, Mika?

You said you have opinions, use them, not really my job to tell you who to vote.

Who's that in your avatar btw?

It's TOP from Big Bang, Kpop band. PM me if you wanna talk music. The Cartman getup is for team mafia.

As for now, my real question is are you confident enough to push a lynch right now? Because it looks like you're not from your responses to me. And asking me to have any opinion, strong or otherwise, feels hypocritical if you don't feel strong enough about anything to tell me about it.

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My goodness you guys are boring. I'll go read and then come back with reads or something.

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Bored at work so posting now. Y'all are boring.

Ari's not gonna tell you this because he's not terrible, but he's a magnet for d1 votes regardless of alignment. For what it's worth the crap he's getting votes for today is horseshit.

Bro's Ari vote is garbage, and instead of talking about it when questioned he questions my intelligence. So far so good.

If Mika turns out to be scum I'm nominating her for a thing.

Toast looks good. He kept a level head in an Ari situation.

Hydra gets points for being the only person among herself, TSQ, and Cooldog to actually say why a flavor claim is a bad idea instead of being a condescending asshole about it.

Domino's sad vote foreplay makes me sad. Boo to you for being a weird tease. Your enumerated reasons for voting are iffy. From what I can see, you think Ari thinks TSQ could potentially be scum, but he's not sticking to his guns about it? And that's more worthy of a vote than TSQ himself to you? Or are you mad at Ari for not pushing a wagon than you don't agree with?

Adding Kalimer to the 'not voting him today' bucket because 77.

Beer's Cooldog push is neat, but they should explain to me why Bro and Domino aren't scum, because they're both currently in the suck bucket.

I'll not be voting notquitethere Mika, Beer, Toast, Kalimer, Mainez, and probably not Hydra but someone could potentially talk me out of that one.

If like to hear Beer tell me about Domino and Bro.

Ari has a sassiness to him that I don't know that I've seen before, but I've seen him get killed super early so much that I don't think much could convince me to lynch him d1 here.

I'd like for TSQ to get in here

If I didn't disagree with Beer about half his reads I'd sheep him into cooldog

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Softprod received is the name of an adult novella I'm writing

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Day one town points are easy to get from me because there's no information. Notice the only ones in my pile that I actually call town are Mika and Toast. Why do you have a problem with my list, though? Would you like to lynch one of them? If so, why?

So Ari is looking at people for the wrong reasons. What makes wrong scummy? Town is wrong a lot.

I'm going to need you to point out someplace specific where I gather a read from someone's play style.

Why is my Beer comment bad?

And finally of course I'm not committing, there's nothing strong enough to commit to yet.

(Post made on phone so forgive my grammar)

[JohnnyFarrar]

Hey you're here

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I knew you'd come around. Now convince me Ari's not charmingly befuddled town.

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I mean if you're leaving it up to me you're gonna have one less vote.

Read on Toast?

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Sassy.

I've stated my unwillingness to vote half the player list and have open questions regarding several others. What more would you like me to do?

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I feel like he covered that

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Back at work. People don't like me :C

@TSQ/Toast are you guys getting anything out of this little tiff? Because I'm not really seeing this town getting closer to a lynch with y'all slapping at each other

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I don't care to vote anyone right now. You know my thoughts on everyone and I'm currently waiting on Beer. Either point out something you think I've missed or stuff it, because you're not gonna get me to vote just for the sake of voting.

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VOTE: JohnnyFarrar

Either contribute to finding scum, die, or replace out.

I am, I'd rather not, and no. Respectively.

Cool vote though. Am I a policy lynch?

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So I'm scum?

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Ohhh OK. I mean that's fine. I'd like to see which people have reads garbage enough that 'you haven't voted yet' is the best reason for a vote.

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Hypocrisy is everywhere honey. Get used to it.

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VOTE: JohnnyFarrar

This is the fourth time I've addressed you after receiving no reply. During that time you've repeatedly said you're bored by people in the thread, but you're not engaging with them... so what gives?

Did you miss the post with all my thoughts? Should I have said your name in it more? I don't think I've not responded to anything?

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It's West

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Best vote right now is Beer's vote for cool dog (even better with CD's current posting) but I want to know why they think Domino and Bro or town to make sure he's not crazy pants before hopping on that wagon

Also kind of bummed in general about Beer, considering there's two people there and it still doesn't pay a lot

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Boredboredbored

Time to get nit picky

ferrar vote is interesting, still like my vote though. I'm probably going to have to re-read tomorrow.

What does interesting mean? I see that word a lot in Mafia.

Just to remind you: trust tells are banned on this forum.

Didn't even know this was a thing. Did you honestly think this was what was happening?

2. Wanting a lynch on a player, because of his role is a good reason?

This question is both silly and reductive.

Vote Hydra

Better vote right now

Where did this even come from?

I'm going to charitably chalk this up as a misunderstanding rather than you willfully ignoring me.

You said share your notes, I said everything I thought about the game at the time. What's the misunderstanding?

Beer's answer is alright VOTE: CoolDog

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Dude it's page 6. Why the fuck are you asking if someone's confident enough in a read to push it to lynch on page fucking 6?

At the time I was annoyed because I didn't have any strong reads and was annoyed at how big a fucking problem everyone had with that. I got hyperbolic.

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There's too much anger in Mafia guys.

I've been accused of playing more the psychology professor than Mafia, so I'm way more into seeing where people's heads are than analyzing day 1 arguments (Especially involving Ari).

Bro, your inability to understand that Ari can just be town who is wrong is hurting me.

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You kept on the sidelines during a lot of the time when Ari was the center of attention. Why didn't you chime in with this context earlier?

People not hopping on an easy Ari vote are prime "I'm not lynching you day 1" targets and I wanted to see how many, if any, would stay off

[JohnnyFarrar]

My role name is wholly accurate to my role, are you claiming yours isn't? What would the point be with having the Bacanno setting if it had zero impact on the roles?

This is not a question that should be answered. Asking for a flavor claim from someone who's already claimed a role is understandable, trying to fish a flavor named out of someone who hasn't claimed anything is bad business.

I feel like this trust tell talk is lending too much credence to the "I don't do this as scum" argument. To me it's the difference between "I consciously don't do this as scum so I can claim as much when I'm town" and "This has never even occurred to me as scum." Here's the kicker though, regardless of which side of that assumption you fall on, that's not gonna be a convincing argument to me.

#phonepostfuckproofreading

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Personal reminder to see if anyone has ignored Cool Dog until this point.

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Why Bro over CD, Toast?

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What if I told you I liked Bro better because he's actually pushing lynches with (albeit wrong IMO) understandable reason?

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The push is what I'm talking about. I feel like he's honestly trying (even though he's wrong) whereas CD just looks to be in a weird vote limbo where he's making shitty votes and then doing nothing to push them

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He's belittling those that defy him while simultaneously voting people who don't matter for reasons that range from nebulous to shitty. His brand of wrong looks more like flinging shit against the wall and seeing what sticks than either Bro or Ari.

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If we start discussing the pros and cons of RVS I'm going to seppuku all over this bitch.

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Did the Quo go on vacation?

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Johnny

This is not a question that should be answered. Asking for a flavor claim from someone who's already claimed a role is understandable, trying to fish a flavor named out of someone who hasn't claimed anything is bad business.

Woah woah woah, this is a serious accusation. How exactly am I fishing here? Without any claims, him telling me whether his role is appropriate to his flavour tells me absolutely nothing about him right buuut it would stand to tell me something about the game in general.

Even if it's as harmless as you say, if he comes back with a "my role and flavor don't match up" then scum have that much easier a time fake claiming. Shush.

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Johnny can be town for now, but I'm still watching you. Do you really believe that it's likely for a theme game to have abilities and flavour that do not match up though? I assume that's what you mean by role. Unless we're taking about actual alignment, I have seen 'good' characters be scum roles and 'bad' characters be town roles in past theme games

First theme game I ever played was Dragon Ball Z themed, we lynched Goku because he said he was VT. He was not lying.

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Oh, you mean whether or not someone is a PR then? Yeah, last game I was in a character who seemed like they would be PR based on flavour was VT, it happens.

That's not what I was talking about, I clearly meant the actual abilities themselves. Do you think that it's possible for a PR's ability to not align with flavour?

I do not consider a character whose flavour would suggest a PR role being VT 'role and flavor not matching up', especially in a series where the entire cast has quirks which would justify them being a PR, do you?

Never really separated the two in my head. I kind of hope I don't have to, but I'll concede right now.

I'm voting for you. Are you saying that you are not contributing to the town here... hmmm...

No I'm just saying I have self esteem issues ;-; (But seriously your vote's still on me and you haven't told anyone why or pushed it at all)

Bro's making me think about NQT. Not sure I like that.

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Hi Jazz

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Meta's boring anyway. VOTECOUNT PLS

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At least Mika's vote's in the right place.

Bottom of page votecounts with only two changes are fun.~

Don't you get snarky with me I was curious

Domino, NQT, and Toast's votes all strike me as a "why are they doing that?"
You guys should tell me about it.

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This is going well.

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I like that Jazz acknowledged TSQ's play nullified his role. I'd tried to get TSQ to see this but he didn't want to engage with the point.

Is this alignment indicative or are you just patting yourself on the back?

Hi Varsoon

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Hi Varsoon. I've had a shitty day. I'm about to make a reads post full of passive aggressive snark because it might help me unwind. You should say something super relevant before then because then my read on your slot won't just be me calling your predecessor dirty words.

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Things I think about people off the top of my head ready set goooooooooooooo

Spoiler:

Cool Dog's scum. His nosedive from not posting to exclusively posting garbage almost looks like it was done on purpose, and when we lynch him today (because let's be real he's going to get lynched today) his likely scum flip will cause me to look at those who were in danger at the beginning of the day as possible scummates that maybe had powerful roles that the scumteam needed to protect.

NotQuiteThere has a shitty name. Aside from that I think he's trying

way

too hard to lend gravity to the things he's saying. Day one that can be someone trying to move things along, but if it keeps going I'll have to start treating him like that one boy who said wolf a lot.

West is playing like West does early game. His slot is garbage but the lurky kind of garbage that I find hard to lynch. If West continues to be a non presence later in the game I'll be super disappointed, as I've seen many a game come back from the point of no return at the hand of him. (I'm usually in the dead thread by that point though ;-;) BASICALLY not into a West vote right now because it's akin to a lurkervote.

Toast is playing an almost textbook game of mafia. Super hard to read because he fades into the background by being logical in a world of people like CD, Bro, TSQ, etc. wafflewafflewaffle

Bro is wrong a lot. Probably. This feels like a "I wanna call him scum because I don't like him" situation, which is why I'm not super comfortable with this wagon on him.

Jazz is smooth as fuck (hehe) and puns aside that makes me super nervous. I can't tell if it's lament or indifference I'm reading in regards to her own slots early claim, but that whole situation leaves me feeling more antsy than if Daffy had just stayed in. No content from her yet so I think I'll hold off.

You guys remember Mika? Gosh she's town. Hope her being gone for a while is her being busy and not coasting on how town she looks.

*It is at this point that Johnny had to check the playerlist to see who else was in the game

Anyone else think it's super weird that the most meaningful interaction both West and Mainez have had was with each other? I don't know why it's weird, but it is.

Beer's the same sort of read as Bro only flipped. I kinda wanna townread them but that might just be the "I agree with you" kicking in.

Ari dun' messed up in the beginning and then plum forgot about the game. Never change.

*It is at this point that Johnny ISO'd Kalimer because he couldn't remember anything meaningful that he/she had done all game.

Kalimer defended Ari, defended me. Neither of which I expect from people like ever. AND we've never met. Creepy. But I mean this slot's actually looking pretty ok so far. Who didn't like it? Was it Domino?

BOOM TRANSITION Fuck Domino though. Varsoon says he's town though so woopie.

What I want from people is to read these totally eloquent and probably hilarious words and then tell me if you agree/disagree and then tell me why. I kept them short and sweet so if I get any bitching about walls Ima punch all y'alls faces.

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Unwilling to accept that answer

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And I'm only pretending to be less annoyed than I am because you started the Cool Dog wagon

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Swoooooooooorry Mika.

Fack u Mainez do you agree with my reads? y/n

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Clarification: here, do you mean West as in me or West as in this slot?

#both
I only remeber Mainez doing a bunch of like "clarify pls" questions, but then you show up and you're all "Mainez wtf" and he's all "Nawwwww actually West wtf" etc etc.

Feel free to correct, still going off memory.

NQT lending gravity to what he's saying

The trust tell stuff, him not acknowledging that I shared all my thoughts and then making it sound like I still didn't answer his question about my thoughts, him getting all serious about me thinking he's role fishing (upon introspection I realize maybe a lot of this has to do with him being weird towards me but fuck it it's already out there)

Toast both sinking into the background and standing out as a logical thinker

Being logical is singular in this game of freaks, but it's easier to forget him because logical is easy to forget because of said freaks. I've won a few games as scum because town were just crazy and distracting, I could see others doing the same.

Mika's super-towniness

Being off the cuff (posting right after waking up), clarifying the role confusion rather than attacking either party for it, not finding Ari scummy when it might have been easy for scum to do so (even when challenged), getting actually mad at me, etc etc. Those are just off the top of my head.

@Johnny
why you fack me
i agree with most of the stuff, i'll write a more detailed response to it later

Then respond before the day ends, I like reads and stuff.

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My right eyebrow is raised pretty high right now.

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He attacks JF for fake activity/defensiveness (both reasonable accusations).

I'll give you defensive but fuck that other one, y'all know everything I'm thinking (except the sexy stuff)

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Okay, in fairness, I like the posts where you give your reads but the rest of the time it's all just one liners. Easy minimal engagement stuff. But since you're about, let's converse. You're just raising your eyebrow at Beer's request. Do you see a scum motivation there?

I mean I don't like it. It's both beer basically calming to be bulletproof as well while also looking for a safe NK target.

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West voted CD in his last big post Mr. mod

Noted. People should try their best to put votes on their own line to make sure that I see it in the future!

@nqt not vote, night kill. And maybe. I still don't know about beer but this makes me nervous.

Also upon rereading that post the paranoid in new is going nuts about the matter of fact way you said CD was gonna get mislynched (like you knooooooow)

I've stated that Bro genuinely looks to be trying in a way I'm not seeing in CD

West is fine and the holdover scumreads from Hydra are weak.

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West voted CD in his last big post Mr. mod

@nqt not vote, night kill. And maybe. I still don't know about beer but this makes me nervous.

Also upon rereading that post the paranoid in

me

is going nuts about the matter of fact way you said CD was gonna get mislynched (like you knooooooow)

I've stated that Bro genuinely looks to be trying in a way I'm not seeing in CD

West is fine and the holdover scumreads from Hydra are weak.

Ebwop

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I don't play theme games all that often, but I could think of half a dozen setups that would feature scum that would benefit from knowing whether or not someone is bulletproof.

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How alignment indicative do you find not trying? I find it's usually a bad sign but so can be activity policing.

I don't particularly find any level of activity alignment indicative, but given the choice between someone trying and someone not I know which I'd rather lynch

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Neato. Now tell us the point, Beer.

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Then I'm gonna suggest we stop this here. I have my own ideas about the setup now and I don't think it benefits town to have a bunch of this information in the open.

I'll wait for catchups from Varsoon and Jazz before beginning to freak out about deadline.

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Avoid reading my posts. Nothing good in there.

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The VC is the same except for NQT switching to CD. This is l-1

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Newest beer identity is doing well in easing my supreme uneasiness with that slot. Will probably only be genuinely confident when CD flips scum.

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Convince me sweetheart

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NQT my paranoia stoppppppp

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And the reason for the trolling was...?

This is a funny question

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I just keep reading these posts thinking you're like crumbing something

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So... are both TSQ and Johnny Bulletproof?
Or what?

Fucking Cool Dog is a god damn idiot is what. Here I am actually capable of using this fucking bulletproof the right way unlike SOME slots and he's way too uncomfortable with me making fucking jokes so of course I MUST be scum.

Nobody else claim immortal there's clearly something that kills immortals in this game.

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In my head immortal = bulletproof. That's what I mean when I refer to my own power anyway

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I've got nothing that says I can eat people. I'm just immune to non-modified kills

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Guys I love you and everything and I haven't forgot you, but I'm sort of living and breathing e3 right now. Will be here to play later on in the week.

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yooooooooooooooo

I LOVE flippant approaches. I also LOVE my plans for today so see you in a little while C:

@Big if you tell me something super convincing about Toast between now and next time I look at this you'll get a nice loud sheep.

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Give me something to feel good sheeping about. Only thing I remember about Kalimer was that slot being unwilling to vote me OR Ari early d1, both of which are easy things for scum to do

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I did it. I figured out who Big was.

What makes Kalimer doing those things more scummy than say, me doing those things?

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Reason stated for me joining the last wagon (and this one for that matter) is sheeping, and I'm pretty sure the reason CD shot me was me saying pointless things

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Bwoooooring. Will let Kalimer field this wagon and see how it goes.

LolMainezthinksBeer'sstillalive

It'd be neat if somebody found and quoted all the votes on CD while I'm away

Pedit: are we assuming immortals are town now?

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Ari looks great more people talk go

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Drank a lot last night, don't even remember posting :C

wanting people to think bullet-proofs are all town.

You'll have to point out where the hell you got this from because my head did a 180 spin when I read it.

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Work posting woo

E3 is the Electronic Entertainment Expo, (arguably) the biggest video game event of the year.

If you look at the post number on any given post you'll notice it's actually a direct link to that post, so my strategy is copying that link address and then dropping it into a url tag

Dunno what that last one is

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Sorrybusyblahblahexcuses

I've got an hour and a half and a phone, let's see if I can catch up

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Not putting much weight in Toast's theory thingie because I don't like putting people into specific boxes. Makes me so dumb things like generalize and force people into roles they're not taking in my head.

Jazz wants people to comment on setup speculation and that's weird.

Trying to figure out why I don't want to lunch Kalimer and it might just be that I like him. (her?) I do hope someone posts a case though because I'm getting that icky "everyone seems way too ok with this" vibe.

Varsoon's lazy vote scares me.

Mainez is probably town.

@West I don't remember exactly which, but one of Beer's reads rubbed me the wrong way (I think it was the Bro read)

@Toast I used the sheep excuse d1 as well, why is it suddenly a problem when you're the target?

I don't buy this response to West

Woo skimming like an asshole but I caught up I think. My three scum list thing

1. NQT
2. Big
3. Unconfident in a third. Jazz?

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Will vote when I know I'm not accidentally hammering

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I've eaten up most of my time but if anyone's here we can chat

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wanting people to think bullet-proofs are all town.

You'll have to point out where the hell you got this from because my head did a 180 spin when I read it.

ayo NQT

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ayyyyyyyy VOTE: NQT

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@Toast I used the sheep excuse d1 as well, why is it suddenly a problem when you're the target?

What are you talking about? Don't put words in my mouth.

this

Because I don't have anything else to add on NQT. If I were to make a long post about him, it'd be pure bullshit.

In addition, however, the wagon on him contains the two people I'm considering voting for and an irrelevant.

Don't know which of these I am but my feelings are hurt regardless.

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and misrepresenting others.

Actually what?

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Am I wrong in thinking you would like to assume all immortals are town now?

If you read the post I was clearly reacting to (hence the pedit) and the fact that there's a question mark, you'll see that I was actually asking Big that question because he said scum was on the wagon but then discounted me because I'm immortal.

I get Big's "scum on the wagon" voting tactic right now, I just don't see why it's Kalimer over NotQuiteThere. I think NQT's brand of blowing things out of proportion combined with the myriad 'misunderstandings' and the subpar "these people aren't doing anything" votes make me WAY more willing to vote him.

Can anybody actually convince me of Kalimer with like quotes or something

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I mean if that's the case this wagon is real sad

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Varsoon, baby, why not NQT

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This is boooooooooooooooring. People who say big isn't contributing, do you still say so?

p-edit: Ayo big I asked you about Toast a while back and you ain't said shit. Has something happened since then or are you just being a cheeky asshole?

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One sec

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You're not even voting! You've let the day drag on for two whole weeks again and you have the gall to say it's boring. You're the reason!

I'm currently voting you, ding dong. And I'll call boring things boring.

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@JohnnyFarrar
What do you think about Kalimar lying?

Got like an example

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I'D APPRECIATE IT IF WE COULD ALL STOP VOTING LIKE MAD FOR A SECOND. It's not unreasonable to think we might be in lylo right now. eight people left, 1 bad lynch and two night kills could seal the deal.

VOTE: NQT

I hope this isn't LYLO of some sort.

Where's the love, Varsoon?

So I'm pretty sure either Big the Cat or Johnny is the serial killer (as we know from the setting it must be an immortal doing the killing). All the threats to town have to be neutralised and we're staring straight at one of them.

You going to confirm or deny this, VOTE: Big?

How about you,

Varsoon

?

This is a silly way to think. Here we are in what more townie people (cough cough Varsoon cough cough) are worried about as potential lylo, and you've decided on lynching third party?

Ugh. This is why I play open games. Role spec is hard. Things I'm noticing: Big has claimed the only normal ass role so far. Everyone else either has a flavor name for it (i.e. Immortal) or a role that I've just never heard of (i.e. Dealer, deflector, enabler)

Ari is disengaged still, which is a bad sign. West is disengaged still, which is a terrible sign. I still have no thoughts on Mainez which makes me super nervous, and I don't want to lynch Big or Varsoon.

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After we talk about roles for a minute I'm probably going to suggest voting Toast, West, or Mainez.

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Quit being defensive and think with me for a second. Do you think this mod would put in a standard role like "role cop" and then fill it with roles nobody's heard of? That sounds like the weakest investigation role I may have ever heard of.

@Varsoon, what happens if you don't choose a person? Also why Jazz? (Did you already say? I can't remember)

P-edit:

This means that there are:
2 immortal, 1 RB, 1 Enabler, 1 Ascetic, 1 Deflector, 1 RoleCop, we had 2 other immortals, a vengeful, a BG, and whatever a Distraction is supposed to be.

OK woah, who are all of these? I'm immortal, you're Ascetic, Varsoon's deflector, and Big's role cop.

PP-edit: I mean Varsoon's that's what I'm trying to decide

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Just thinking out loud here. So either scum have a modified kill that they have hilariously decided not to use for two nights in a row or the modified kill my role is referring to is this eating business. If'n that be the case and there is a third party munching on people, then the RB would make sense as a scum role, because then that's also a way to stop Varsoon.

[JohnnyFarrar]

I'm super powerless in this situation. Ugh.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Y'all ready for an info dump?

[JohnnyFarrar]

Oh this one ain't satisfying.

I'm Szilard Quates, Third party. I've got a bunch of powers and information.

First thing in going to say (because it's honestly the most important thing to me) is that I'm a survivor, so I win with whatever party that wins. Basically the way I'm playing to this win con is to hope there's a mislynch today. If that doesn't happen, I'm out now and I'll agree to do whatever the town wants me to do with my powers in exchange for letting me live.

Onto powers and information:

I'm immortal

I eat other immortals

I know how many immortals are left

I can make people immortal, allowing me to kill them the next night.

Basically I can't sneak my way into ending this day early, and I don't see a way out of it so I'm being a bitch now. For what it's worth I did have a fake claim but it made no sense with the powers I'd already claimed. I'm gonna save it in case others had similarly unfortunate fake claims and try to steal mine.

Ask me anything.

[JohnnyFarrar]

The immortality I give doesn't kick in till the next day. That way I can't immediately kill them the same night I immortalize them. I thought maybe I saved someone last night so I asked.

[JohnnyFarrar]

this is interesting...
so Johnny, did you attempt to eat Varsoon last night which got directed to Jazz or you simply ate Jazz?

Straight up ate Jazz. Claimed immortal easy target yo.

[JohnnyFarrar]

I get their powers. The make immortal thing is what the dealer was. Not that it matters with my current power set, but I can use one additional power besides my kill every night.

Also night actions not withstanding everything I've said reads-wise still holds. I didn't have to worry about scum killing me because they

can't

, so I was just pointing out scum like normal.

[JohnnyFarrar]

My role says I can win with town

[JohnnyFarrar]

Hey has everyone claimed yet? Because this is funny to me.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Also I'll just not vote today if you guys prefer. The only way I'm gonna win is if I follow everything you guys say in exchange for my life.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Hahaa so guys. Here's the rest of my info, you ready?

There's only one immortal left. I made them immortal myself. Wanna guess who it is?

[JohnnyFarrar]

Hahaa so guys. Here's the rest of my info, you ready?

There's only one immortal left. I made them immortal myself. Wanna guess who it is?

Inb4 BigTheCat

YOU ALREADY SPOILED IT

[JohnnyFarrar]

basically. I'd personally like it better if you found someone else to lynch and let

me

kill big but that probably won't play.

[JohnnyFarrar]

because then I'd be rolecop and that'd be neat.

[JohnnyFarrar]

I mean I'm not to be trusted anymore so sorry for not talking. We could just chat though

[JohnnyFarrar]

Hold on, why Varsoon? Either lynch me or Big, do you have strong enough suspicion outside the two of us? Even if West blocks me, I don't see the point of avoiding the Big question right now

[JohnnyFarrar]

Oh and for the record, if you guys manage to lynch scum and not me today, my guess fit the team is Big/West/Mainez

[JohnnyFarrar]

fit=for #autocorrect

[JohnnyFarrar]

Hm.
Been thinking long and hard about it and the highest payout play we can make is lynching Johnny. It's the lowest risk play, period.
That said, we may be in a situation where only high risk play lets town win.
So, eh, fuggit.
VOTE: Johnny

8 Alive, 4 town 3 scum one me.

Lynch me. 7 Alive 4 town 3 scum

Scum night kills. 6 Alive 3 town 3 scum, scum wins.

Either you think I'm lying (plausible) or you're confident you can stop a kill (less plausible). Either way I wouldn't call this the safe bet.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Wave your fist at him anyway.

[JohnnyFarrar]

But West

[JohnnyFarrar]

Heh. So guys, I didn't realize I couldn't win with scum until like 48 hours before the day was over. My bad, town.

[JohnnyFarrar]

All immortals + Mafia are dead. I realize letting me win with scum would have broken this setup (and it did, because that's what I was going for) but I probably would have had less fun with it had I known I had to help town and kill them at the same time