Mini 1667: Dr. McNinja McMafia [GAME OVER]

[Salamence20]

Your professional Bookitty/Katsuki reader is here.

Give me awhile to read this game. Quick question tho...

Are we in mylo?

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You said it not me

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I should make a quick note that you wont be getting much from me until Sunday.

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Ok, gonna start reading now. Going to be a bit.

Also lalala, the player before me already claimed, go find it.

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You need to claim asetic or RB btw

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House targeted you N2 and for some reason it didnt go through.

Either town RB me (should claim)
Mafia RB me (wont claim)
Youre asetic (need to claim)

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Wtf is a motivator?

That makes the target unable to be blocked I believed.

Ive never seen that as town before

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Ooh Boo is JK.

Hmmmm. Cool

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Skull, do maf/Sk shoot at the same time?

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Cool, youre targeting me tonight.

Also, this means that the SK could either kill or poison.

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Vengeful/Tracker/Inventor/JK/Motivator vs BPSK vs 2 mafia.

Id love to know if JK can heal/protect poison.
Mafia either has some kind of BP/Poisonheal ability I would think.

Actually, this setup reminds me of another game....

Brb

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Im neither of those.

I have two inventions that should break the game if we hit scum today

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Anyways, this looks like a slighty modified version of Dangan Rompa Mafia, a game Skull is very familiar with.

That game was vengeful/tracker/1-shotBP vs 2 goons vs Inv/tracker immune SK

My inventions are Commute/Watcher/SKcop/Hated modifier
I do personally think town is too strong here, but my setup spec is weak.

Im guessing everyone else is VT.

P-edit: I would think giving the inventions can be motivated, but you cant motivate the invention itself

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There were no multikills N1/N2.

So that means:

Boo protected both targets (farside and I) from SK. (Possibly)
Mafia knows about the SK because one of them was BP/poisonhealz (eh)
Mafia hit D3x twice, while D3x killed N1. (Possible)

P-edit: Kats your voting with Boo soooo?

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egrh

Kats I think you're town so help pls

RIP never looks like town

whatcha think about VP?

VP seems also useless but I should actually skim his ISO sometime.

This game is probably just Bookitty coasting with this apathetic town but w.e because RIP needs death. Plus he has a good chance of being scum with that shitastic play of his but I dunno I think this is simply one of those games where the strongest players alive are scum.

Someone give me some insight on this.

Katsuki thinks Boo is scum
Katsuki is voting With Boo for the same person
Wtf

[Salamence20]

Okay, here's where I'm sitting (and HEY, I'm awake, I was just busy, you snick!):

I'm pretty sure Lalala is town. If she weren't truthful, then a townie wouldn't have vouched for her (Suzune said she was motivated for last night, and why on earth would Lalala-scum motivate a town tracker?

I had a pretty strong townread on House. His disappearance looks to me to be sitewide (if you have countering info, I want to know it). I usually think of replace-outs as scum-indicative due to experience I had back in the time when dinosaurs walked the earth and Lynch All Liars was accepted Mafia policy, but I think House likes playing scum more than town so I'm looking at it as neutral. I'm waiting for Salamence to catch up and tell us what he thinks.

I don't like that Katsuki seems to be setting me up as a mislynch if RIP flips town. The issue I have, though, is that unless I guess right tonight, this is MYLO. So Katsuki-scum has zero reason to push for a mislynch tomorrow unless she thinks I'm going to guess right tonight; it's like insurance, but I'm not thinking Katsuki is an "insurance" type player. I could be wrong there.

Soren is ALWAYS fluffy as town. If anything, I would say that he's LESS fluffy here than I've seen him in other games where he was town. VysePresident was a melange of broken promises and absence. Sloppy Joe has already made more of an impression and seemed more thoughtful than VP ever managed in his entire stay. I'm still a little twitchy about this slot, but I'm willing to wait and see.

RIP has been SO absent that it's really difficult to say what his alignment is; that said, he's not even showing up to defend himself. That doesn't look town to me. I don't know what will prompt him to post actual content if a wagon on him in what is probably MYLO won't.

Some questions:

Lalala: What do you think of Katsuki?

Sloppy Joe: What makes you think lazy town and not scum for RIP?

You would know about replacing out as scum.

Boo, its mylo, does that change how you feel about kats?

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Pretty much a gut feeling after a few ISO reads. I'll check out Lucian Roy when I'm on a computer.

In the meantime, does anyone mind giving me a summary of everyone's claims?

Boo is JK
Im inventor
Lala is motivator

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Wait Kats is a nilla cop.

Wtffffffffffffff

This fucking game

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Wow that RIP iso is the worst I've ever seen.

Ya I'd rather not lose to this than lose to Boo. Actually, I'd gladly hand the game to her in exchange for lynching RIP.

VOTE: RIP

I'd be a hypocrite if I judged you on that, Katsuki. I've come perilously close to missing submitting a night action myself and I know how real life can be distractive. That said, if you do it again I'll post a pic of Hello Kitty giving you the bad middle finger. I mean it. You bin warned.

I do support the RIP lynch, I think. Not sure that he's scum, but he's done nothing to make me think he's town here either.

VOTE: RIP

Both these votes bug me, because OMGUS and that Boo response of "meh, might be scum" in mylo screams wagoning.

Problem is, mafia havent wagonned to win meaning theres one maf in Boo/Kats/RIP

I dont think Boo is dumb enough to hop on with her scumbuddy.

P-Edit: I think he claimed JOAT

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Boo/Farside reactions scream Boo trying to get Farside to shut up because she is scum and Farside knew it.

Been there done that.

The JK role tho is making me think Bootown because Town needs to have protection against SK/Maf, and theres no doc claims.

If Boo is town, Kats is scum.

Vanilla cop is not a town PR in this game unless mafia is nerfed as fuck.

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Wooo Katsuki is doing something in this game. I dont know what shes doing, but its all not fluff.

Shes playing against wincon though if shes reading Boo as scum because scum dont bus in mylo.

Anyone think Katsuki would hit SK twice in a row? I could see it

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RIP isnt budding with Towniness, unfortunately

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RIP isnt budding with Towniness, unfortunately

Unfortunately, all PRs aside, RIP is still more town that Boo/Kats.

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Scum obviously wanted D3x dead, so his reads probably mean something.

Brb

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I was trying to play less than my townie town game day one because I was a power role and I don't like being nightkilled night one as a power role. That is why I kept telling Farside to back off, because if I'd had to claim I might as well have not been in this game at all.

A quick look at Skull's iso shows that the highest amounts of votes on you were 2 yesterday. I doubt Farside was pulling out all the stops for your lynch, so it can be seen as an overreaction, however on the other hand JK is a scummy role to choose to fakeclaim, so I can see why you would want to act scummy. IMO I'm calling it scummy for the former since I've know how it is to be scum and have someone call you out on it asap.

I suspect that d3x tried to kill Farside night one and that I saved her from that, but she ended up dying anyway because vengeful. I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing that. As a one-shot, I would have tried to kill as early as possible; I assume d3x would have done the same.

Some really faulty logic going on here. 1. We know that SK killed grapes N1 due to the lack of a second kill, because mafia had to 2 shot SK. 2. D3x was a 1-Shot BP, not a 1-shot SK. Given the fact there is a motivator, the gimmick of the SK is that he could either Poison or Kill, or possibly both with the motivation (Poison I would think isn't a faction ability). D3x I believe was scumhunting since grapes was a possible lynch D1. 3. Why would you JK Farside, the one person wanting to lynch you for being scum. That is the most important question, because I cant see a town JK blocking/protecting the person who wants them lynched.

Why is RIP townie to you, Salamence? Both you and Sloppy Joe are pushing this idea that RIP is town. What's your reasoning on that? What has he done that is town?

I can't explain why I feel town for RIP logically, I just feel as if his posting is more coming from town than scum. Scum have to actually try for a mislynch, while town can be lazy. Like I said earlier, out of you, Kats, and RIP, RIP would be my main townread.

The answer to the MYLO question about Katsuki is actually in the post you quoted. If we don't lynch correctly, then ... and now I realise that they can just kill me and spare the agony. Okay, then explain to me why Katsuki as scum would need to set up a lynch on me or push suspicion on me? If we don't do it today, I'm dead and the game is over.

There is a possibility that Kats is a solo Mafia or something and knows this isn't mylo. I don't know how many games there are with a single mafia because that would make it just another SK. She could also be setting up in case the RIP wagon doesn't get any bites.

I guess there's the possibility that you and House lied and you have a one-shot protect

Technically we have a 1-shot commute that we tried to give to lala, but you blocked it.

; that's the only reason I can see for doing that at this point. Both you and House are gambit-friendly players

I don't know how much of a gambit house was creating by calling himself a JOAT, or hiding the fact that we can make someone Hated for the rest of the game. Personally I would have came out of RVS stating that there is an SK in this game, but that's me

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UNVOTE: because we're actually getting some decent discussion and I want to hear why I'm wrong on RIP.

Don't fully understand the unvote, its not like RIP was in any danger of being speedlynched. Why didn't you give me reason to vote RIP instead of just giving up?

[Salamence20]

Hmmm, theres no second kill N2 either.

We know mafia killed D3x.
So did Boo actually protect me?

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my head hurts.

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Sorry, that was a weak post. I mean that RIP deserves a policy lynch, and I think he's the scummiest out of all of us. And I want to hear if he's actually a town player or will just troll us to doom.

Policy lynch in Mylo.

Sounds about right

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Oh ya considering no double-kill happened last night, we could go with no-lynch to see what happens. This is optimal from my perspective as I don't find any of you particularly town (hence no loss + narrower pool), but would be curious to see what you guys think.

No because Booscum could WIFOM a no-kill

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Policy refers to ridding of town and hoping he flips scum.

Thats not a way to sell one on a lynch

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Im gonna read the entire thread now and piece things together.

Probably a vote too.

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President Funkhouser.

I'm actually a little suspious of you now, lalaladucks because your reads have been changing lately for little reason. I 'll post more on sunday ta ta.

If scumducks fakeclaimed Motivator, then he can win.

That is a ballsy fakeclaim

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Boo Factional Kills dont get motivated

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the better question is can the Poison be motivated or is it a factional ability

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No mafia hit him twice for reasons unknown.

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No mafia hit him twice for reasons unknown.

How, though? Poison is delayed, isn't it?

So who killed Grapes?

@SloppyJoe: If there were three mafia left we would have lost already. Number of mafia < three.

Boo, I believe SK could only Kill or Poison, not both. D3x chose to kill Grapes. There is no poison

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If RIP is scum (which I'm pretty sure about), who would be his potential partner?

You.

Otherwise Boo or Kats bussed

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Boos looking town this page.

I could go for Kats

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It could be you and RIP though.

Fuck me

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VOTE: Kats

Im believing JK.

Dead thread cry/cheer

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Lalala if Kats flips scum youre on me tonight

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Right now my only fear is a Bookitty/Salamence team, but I think with Kat's last response, we nailed a scum.

You're a shit scumhunter.

Let's play a game as I'm bored. Try building a case on me as to why I'm scum. What about my play makes me scum, and what about it is scum motivated? Explain why the pieces of evidence you use are indicative to me being scum.

Subsitute the word "scum" with "town" and you'll get the same response.

Idk.

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Right now my only fear is a Bookitty/Salamence team, but I think with Kat's last response, we nailed a scum.

Thinking about it, Boo is scum only if you believe skull gave town no Protection against:

1. Mafia
2.SK
3.Poison

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1. Your role
2. Lack of protection roles for town, especially a poison curer.
3. Killing and Poison is OP as fuck, not mentioning theres another kill. 3 kills a day in a mini is crazy

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Id prefer to have some last thoughts from RIP

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Also if Kats is flipping scum, we do the following:

Boo JK Joe
Lalala motivate me
I give tracker to Lalala
I give Commute to Boo

If there is a kill, we have a ml to lynch RIP.

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If Kats is scum,

Lalala motivates Boo
Boo JKs Joe and RIP
I give lalala tracker

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Tracker, wtf

I meant watcher

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Also lalala's motivations take a day to work, I think.

If this is true Kats better flip scum.

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Maybe it would be optimal in that case to NL and JK lalala and force the mafia to kill me or boo.

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Because I have no strong townreads outside you.

A boo JK flip would clarify things and probably confscum Kats because Vanilla cop and JK cant be both town in this game with all the other powers

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Boos not the lynch today

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Kats/Rip one of them is confscum

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UNVOTE:

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Thanks for confirming Joe as town

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Boo/Kats/RIP

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Also fuck you Kats if youre town.

Youre playing against your wincon by A) not voting your scumread Boo and B) Self-Voting

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LOL PLEASE DON'T LECTURE ME ABOUT PLAYING AGAINST MY WINCON AFTER YOUR PLAY IN SKULL'S LAST GAME AND [REDACTED]

Im still shocked Skull didnt deny my request to replace.

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Its not Boo/Kats. I think Boo would be smarter than that to jump on with Kats as buddies

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Its not Boo/Kats. I think Boo would be smarter than that to jump on with Kats as buddies

This means that RIP would be confscum in this scenario

Meaning its Boo/RIP because Boos unvote would match with a bus

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If lalala is scum, hes getting your Manipulator title by fakeclaiming something fucking stupid

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I don't follow your logic sala. Let's lynch Kats.

If you are scum you could have hammered Kats

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No. We deal with Boo/Kats tomorrow by forcing Booscum to JK Kats

Lets get RIP and deal with Boo/Kats tomorrow

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We vote Rip.

Im town
Joe is conftown
Ducks is Obvtown

Leaves JK boo is JK Kats for auto

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If Booscum NK tonight saying Kats is mafia, we can lynch both of them.

Gg

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ITS AUTO TO LEAVE BOO ALIVE BECAUSE WE HAVE 3 OBVTOWNIES NOW

RIP DIES
BOO HAS TO JK KATS
IF THERE IS A KILL THEN BOO IS SCUM
IF NO KILL BE HAVE A MISLYNCH ON BOO THEN GET KATS IN LYLO

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Could Inventor be a fakeclaim? Hmmmmmmmm Sala keeps talking about ballsy fakeclaims, could be teasing us I guess. Shall consider this.

Pedit: PeaceBringer...

Why would scum me unvote Kats?

Come on now.

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How on earth is Kats town now, Sala?

Its not about reads anymore.

ITS AUTO UNLESS YOURE SCUM OR DUCKS IS SCUM OR IM SCUM

ALL 3 of those things cant happen for various reasons that should be obvious.

RIP is scum, boo/Kats is buddy.

Boo as scum has to WIFOM no-kill, meaning we have 2 lynches.

Kats scum cant win if Boo is JK.

G fucking G

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VOTE: RIP

Hammer is on Joe

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You me kats?

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Then Joe wins gg.

But thats not the case

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Joe hammer unless you think its boo/kats

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Youre playing against auto

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Its not Boo/Kats. I think Boo would be smarter than that to jump on with Kats as buddies

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Let me explain in detail since Joe just doesnt get it.

Ducks is town based on his role and I believe the Tracker confirmed that hes a motivator.
Joe is town becuase he had the opportunity to hammer Kats and RIP.
Im town because if I was scum, Kats would have been lynched.

Leaving Katsuki, Boo, and RIP.

RIP and Katsuki voted each other, so I doubt its RIP/Kats
Boo hopped on Kats vote on RIP, and looking at it it seems scummy, I dont think Boo would do that if Kats was her buddy, so its not Boo/Kats

So the last combo is Boo/RIP.

Boo was willing to bus, and then a seemingly odd unvote instead of persuading us to vote RIP.

RIP is confirmed scum because Boo and Kats arent buddying up in mylo.

That leaves the last scum in Boo/Kats.

Boo will either JK Kats (town; Kats is scum), or No-Kill (Scum; but we have a mislynch so we can lynch both Kats/Boo).

So again, unless you believe there is scum in lalala, me, or Joe, Or Boo was stupid to wagon with her scumbuddy, RIP is confirmed scum.

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Whatever man.

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I expect a motivate tonight.

Joe should get something from me

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Well...

So if Kats/Sala is scum, then I've lost... but if Rip is scum then I was VI... shoot.

Im town as fuck.

Youre just slow to catch up

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AtE some more Boo.

Its over.

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You And I both know if scum was me and Kats you would have been lynched

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Lalala is conftown via Suzanne what you talking about

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Plus if you think im not getting revenge for The Wire, youre mkstaken.

Id death tunnel you as scum and win.

But whatever. I expect you to No-Kill Tonight

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Its over because RIP is scum and you and Kats cant win as scum.

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Just JK kats, kk?

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So much trolling

Please tell me I wasn't right about Boo/Sala scumteam...

I

FUCKING

WISH

[Salamence20]

Loving the new avi Kats

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can I be the finishing blow on Boo please?

I caught her as scum and then she replaced out for ZMuffin in the Wire.
ZMuffin obviously won the game, despite me catching Boo.

I want revenge. Boo isnt escaping me. Not this time.

For the first time in a long time, Salamence leads town to victory.

(maybe its entirely not true but thats how Im claiming it)

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FOR SKULL
FOR TOWN
FOR REVENGE!!!!

VOTE: Bookitty

Gg folks

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That was just to prove i am an inventor.

Or if Boo no-killed and we had to go another night

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Kats not mafia.

Thats impossible unless a RB can block a JK thats supposed to JK the blocker and ect ect.

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Actually, why didnt lala motivate me?

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Finally, revenge and a sweet outcome for me in a Skullmod. Thanks for letting me play!!

Kats, honest question here. Do you not want to play in games with you or was that a freakout reaction. I understand if you dont want me to, and Ill respect that. I have nothing against you personally.