Mini 1672: Bastard++ (Game Over)

[vonflare]

Meep

[vonflare]

I really wanted to be a cult leader.

[vonflare]

I really wanted to be a cult leader.

You'll have to settle for being a follower.

Does that mean you are the leader who is going to recruit him?

Ohh I hope so.

[vonflare]

@vonflare

Answer me these questions three ere the other side you shall see

1) Why would you want to be in a cult? Most people on this site, in my experience, prefer town, and cult looks like scum with no NK

2) Supposing I was willing to vote the way you told me to, who would you tell me to vote for, and what quid pro quo could you offer?

3) A free neutron (m = 1.67 × 10^−27 kg) has a mean life of 900 s. What is the uncertainty in its mass?

Cult is fun.

Self-vote. its RVS.

1.67492729×10^(−27) kg
939.56556 MeV/c2
1.008664915 u

[vonflare]

'tis true, he rides me, and I long for grass
I am an ass, else it could never be
But that I should know him as well as he knows me

There once was an X from place B
Who satisfied predicate P
Then X did thing A
In a particular way
Resulting in circumstance C

-limerick template

[vonflare]

'tis true, he rides me, and I long for grass
I am an ass, else it could never be
But that I should know him as well as he knows me

There once was an X from place B
Who satisfied predicate P
Then X did thing A
In a particular way
Resulting in circumstance C

-limerick template

This is a haiku
Do you expect great wit now?
Then I'll disappoint.

Haiku haiku lol
This is a haiku haiku
Haiku lol get rekt

[vonflare]

Actually, I noticed this set-up had several unique, cool looking roles and was hoping to get one of them to try something different and see how I did.

and did you?

Phishing.

VOTE: peacenringer

[vonflare]

Actually, I noticed this set-up had several unique, cool looking roles and was hoping to get one of them to try something different and see how I did.

and did you?

Phishing.

VOTE: peacenringer

This is a good vote. Peace definitely struck me as role-fishing. FoS Peacebringer.

I think my wagon is a good place to look for scum as well.

not role fishing, reaction fishing...
that reply is horrid bad from you... yet I agree with you on Jeanne... now I am between rock and hard place...

What's bad about it? I'm trying hard to get the game moving any way I can.

[vonflare]

pointing your member over a line that should be read in a clear matter and twisting it to be something else... yes, I poked at you... what you think I thought you would really give an answer to that... I slapped you... nothing more, nothing less...

What?

[vonflare]

Im confused. what is happening?

[vonflare]

Im confused. what is happening?

Wolfie is scum. Lynch her for great justice.

i dunno, im pretty happy with my peacebringer vote. gonna reread page 4-5

[vonflare]

Actually, I noticed this set-up had several unique, cool looking roles and was hoping to get one of them to try something different and see how I did.

and did you?

Phishing.

VOTE: peacenringer

This is a good vote. Peace definitely struck me as role-fishing. FoS Peacebringer.

I think my wagon is a good place to look for scum as well.

I would be perfectly happy with my vote on peace if it werent for this.

this is really weird. I cant tell if this is genuine or just buddy-sheeping...

[vonflare]

mah reads:

house

peace

[vonflare]

I'm not sheeping because I'm not voting for Peacebringer right now. I really love how everyone is jumping down my throat for every fucking thing I post.

House is scum though because he knows me and is taking advantage.

I'm not shoving anything down your throat. I'm saying that the way you worded your response didnt sound sincere.

[vonflare]

Listen, wolf. It’s too early to lynch anyone. Put aside your tunnel on house and focus. Pretend house wasn’t trying to lynch you. Would you still be scumreading him?

[vonflare]

I call people scum who push me for extremely weak reasons Peace so get used to it if you are going to keep doing it. House knows better.

pedit: Yes vonflare because he's played with me before and trying to lynch me without even reading me at all is not a town move by him.

I don't trust meta, as a rule, personally.

And i feel house is contributing well to the game.

How is it obvious to you that he is "trying to lynch you without even reading you"?

[vonflare]

My POV:

HOUSE <-> WOLF is town vs town.

[vonflare]

pretty sure peacebringer is more scum than house or wolf tbh.

PEDIT: why the eyeroll? are you a jester?

[vonflare]

I love how every time two people spat there is some airhead calling it town v town with zero reasoning behind it.

Man up and climb off the fence.

um.

[vonflare]

I call people scum who push me for extremely weak reasons Peace so get used to it if you are going to keep doing it. House knows better.

pedit: Yes vonflare because he's played with me before and trying to lynch me without even reading me at all is not a town move by him.

I don't trust meta, as a rule, personally.

And i feel house is contributing well to the game.

How is it obvious to you that he is "trying to lynch you without even reading you"?

[vonflare]

pretty sure peacebringer is more scum than house or wolf tbh.

PEDIT: why the eyeroll? are you a jester?

because you are being dense, I think you are most likely town and are engaging in typical responses to me... my eyeroll is because I think you are wrong...

lynch this please...

[vonflare]

ok, im done with this thread for now. house and wolf, both of you step back and take 30 mins away from this thread, then come back re read what the other person said and make a real case against them.

And peace, just stop posting random nonsense.

[vonflare]

to clarify, I'm not saying "go for a time-out", btw. I'm saying "cool off and think about this logically".

[vonflare]

well, lay aside whatever beef you have with each other and play the game.

[vonflare]

I call people scum who push me for extremely weak reasons Peace so get used to it if you are going to keep doing it. House knows better.

pedit: Yes vonflare because he's played with me before and trying to lynch me without even reading me at all is not a town move by him.

I don't trust meta, as a rule, personally.

And i feel house is contributing well to the game.

How is it obvious to you that he is "trying to lynch you without even reading you"?

[vonflare]

[vonflare]

ok, IGNORE META. just look at this thread, and think about your reads.

[vonflare]

^^^

[vonflare]

ok, im done with this thread for now. house and wolf, both of you step back and take 30 mins away from this thread, then come back re read what the other person said and make a real case against them.

And peace, just stop posting random nonsense.

My case on Wolfie is very real. If you knew our history together, you'd understand it.

The only other time Wolfie was scum with me, she didn't rub me wrong at all. EVERY SINGLE GAME she's been town, there has been friction between us from the outset until we worked out our alignments.

Wolfie is OMGUSing me to try to fabricate friction now that I pegged her as scum. Simple as.

And you are misrepping me because you are scum going after me so fuck off.

Watch out Peace-I swore again!!

Prove it.

Show one single game where we weren't going at each other from the beginning when you were town.

One. Single. Game.

You can't.

I have you dead to rights.

So fucking what? How long has this game been going on scumbag? You are just looking for any fucking excuse. Nice try. Fuck off.

See? You admit that I'm not misrepping you right here, because you admit that my meta on you is justified and completely true.

how does "we have a history of disliking each other" prove that he is scum?

[vonflare]

AAAAAGH OK NO MORE QUOTE PYRAMIDS.

[vonflare]

sorry, I didn't read that closely since you claimed I misread you once already... believe me I am not buddies with house. We can go out it as well. I got no problem tearing into him if I feel the need to... you caught my attention... I was content to probe Jeanne and her absence until this whole bit...

OK, read this post 3 times, and tell me it dosent get scummier each time.

seriously.

[vonflare]

We don't, and Wolfie is a she.

We're actually friends, but she is massively paranoid of me when she's town because I am fairly good at fooling her when I'm scum. On top of that, she usually posts in a way that rubs me wrong until I can figure out whether she's town or scum.

This is the only other game she's been in that she hasn't been rubbing me the wrong way. This is the only other game we've been in where she hasn't been town.

Ergo, she's scum.

Basically, what youre saying boils down to "gut".

[vonflare]

Seriously, your vote belongs on peace. ISO him.

[vonflare]

Seriously, your vote belongs on peace. ISO him.

then go check me out beyond this game... then get back to me...

I never trust meta, as a rule.

MOD: Does the game end if the jester is lynched?

[vonflare]

We don't, and Wolfie is a she.

We're actually friends, but she is massively paranoid of me when she's town because I am fairly good at fooling her when I'm scum. On top of that, she usually posts in a way that rubs me wrong until I can figure out whether she's town or scum.

This is the only other game she's been in that she hasn't been rubbing me the wrong way.

This is the only other game we've been in where she hasn't been town.

Ergo, she's scum.

This is a lie for two reasons.

First, I'm not scum here.

Second, I was scum against him in Mafia Lottery, newbie 1539 and micro 402 and scum with him in NY 180.

I'm pretty sure house meant "the last time i felt the rubbing wrong way feeling was when wolf was scum"

thats still not a legit reason, but im pretty sure thats what he meant.

now vote peace.

[vonflare]

Seriously, your vote belongs on peace. ISO him.

then go check me out beyond this game... then get back to me...

I never trust meta, as a rule.

MOD: Does the game end if the jester is lynched?

not asking you to trust meta, asking you to look at how I play in general... get a baseline, then get back to me if you think I am at baseline or not...
most people make statements like that and refuse to do so and learn otherwise...
you can look at me and you can Look at Sharpest-knife-on-tree... FYI as sharpest-knife-on-tree I purposefully random voted in RVS as a reaction fish...

I purposefully random voted in RVS

???

[vonflare]

please just stop

[vonflare]

vonflare - nullscum

why?

[vonflare]

Ok

I was busy over the long weekend sorry.

Two things:

1) house's tunnel vision is bothersome, and I could see it becoming a detriment to town in the long run. At least for now he's tunnelling scum.

2) peace gets run up to L-2 and suddenly becomes coherent. Everyone unvotes. I don't like that. He's still scummy.

[vonflare]

Vote McMemo

vonflare: suddenly coherent- what is that supposed to mean?

It means once you get to L2 you start trying to contribute.

I'm not buying it.

I'm townreading wolf btw

[vonflare]

VOTE: McMenno

I like PeaceBringer for town more than McMenno.

No

[vonflare]

Is that L-1? Still not going to do anything?

His calling 2 people jesterish a while back does make we question whether Marcell is right on that one though.

Vonflare why 'no'? The idea of PB as frustrated town still doesn't sit well for me either but you seem quite confident.

Based on his play early game I am confident that he is either scum or a really good jester.

[vonflare]

VOTE: house

Peace is scum if house isn't.

[vonflare]

But whe the sudden opinion shift in the first place?

"SILVER IS SCUM

SILVER IS SCUM

SILVER IS SCUM

SILVER IS ACUM

oh wait MCMENNO IS SCUM"

[vonflare]

EBWOP: silver = peace

I got confuzzled

[vonflare]

Actual house quotes incoming:

"Peace is scum, I'd bet my life on it"

"I like peace for town more than mcmenno"

[vonflare]

I mean, cmon. If that's not vote-hopping I don't know what is.

[vonflare]

Ummmm

[vonflare]

@#$% house

=/

[vonflare]

also i wasnt culted dammit

[vonflare]

peace is still scum

[vonflare]

VOTE: peacebringer

[vonflare]

Not always. But since he's out of the game, it doesn't really matter at this point. I have like no leads. :/

vote peace.

[vonflare]

Man, house played that REALLY well.

[vonflare]

Why Peace again?

hes a scummy scumscum

[vonflare]

sorry, I didn't read that closely since you claimed I misread you once already... believe me I am not buddies with house. We can go out it as well. I got no problem tearing into him if I feel the need to... you caught my attention... I was content to probe Jeanne and her absence until this whole bit...

OK, read this post 3 times, and tell me it dosent get scummier each time.

seriously.

^
this was during the <silver vs house>

[vonflare]

lack of content < scummy posting

[vonflare]

I really wanted to be a cult leader.

I really wanted to be a cult leader.

You'll have to settle for being a follower.

I really wanted to be a cult leader.

You'll have to settle for being a follower.

Does that mean you are the leader who is going to recruit him?

I really wanted to be a cult leader.

You'll have to settle for being a follower.

Does that mean you are the leader who is going to recruit him?

Ohh I hope so.

[vonflare]

I wasn't culted, I promise.

If I was, I would be much happier.

I don't like being town. True story.

We don't even know if there IS a cult.

Vote peace.

[vonflare]

Oh believe me, if I were a second jester, you'd know it by now ^^

Explain what's "weird" about voting a D1 scumread D2 given that it is now also an excellent way to test for the existence of a cult? If you've something better to go on I'd really quite like to hear it.

Vote peace, he's scum.

[vonflare]

@SilverWolf Because he isn't making any sense.

VOTE: vonflare

Who isn't making any sense? Me?

[vonflare]

Town can win with jesters alive.

Do you understand the wincon of a jester?

[vonflare]

I was referring to the convo between House and Maruchan starting here 397 that led me to believe we have to get rid of them. Am I wrong about that? I have never played a set-up like this and the mod did say town loses if a Lyncher is still alive (they wouldn't be fulfilling their wincon either if the lynchee isn't lynched) so yeah, I'm totally confused about this then I guess. I still don't think Beli is a Jester regardless of the answer to this question because he's not doing anything to TRY to get lynched.

jesters lose if they are alive when another faction fulfills their win condition, and do not stop the town from winning.

[vonflare]

Has anyone sat down and tried to start on setup spec? I've white boarded the possibilities as I see them, but I'm not sure it would be wise to share thoughts openly just yet. Scum obviously are going to have a leg up on figuring the spec out, especially if early flips help them narrow down the role categories which got either very few or a lot of rolls.

Someone already claimed Hated, which can be any of the following:

• Hated Weak Cult Leader (Weak is a modifier that if they visit mafia they die, so this implies the cult could recruit scum)
  
• Hated Townie (Looks like there could only be one of these no matter what)
  
• Hated Survivor
  
• Hated Serial Killer

P-Edit: The cult, if we have one {Only town and mafia are guaranteed stuff if there are zero rolls in their number range}, if a danger to both town and scum, I think. The cult wins if it can recruit enough people to have half of the people in the game +1 (rounded up I think since it says majority +1). The game setup says that the Lynchee doesn't know who he is and will get a Vanilla town PM.

P-Edit2: I see most of the answers were given already because Flames682 is on top of it!

Someone claimed hated?

that didnt happen.

sorry for my inactivity, ill assemble a case soon, i promise!

[vonflare]

I'm just bad at this game D:

[vonflare]

Aaa agh I'm so sorry but I'm so busy I have a new job and all that I will case peace I promise!

[vonflare]

Ok wer claiming?

[vonflare]

I'm a VT.



Popcorn silver. (I think he hasn't gone)

Phonepost

[vonflare]

VT

Vonflare we will accept your case in paragraphs or dot points, just post it please this is getting ridiculous.

Today I promise! I'm off today.

Phonepost

[vonflare]

I'm sorry!

Real life takes priority over this game, okay?

I will case peace

today

.

[vonflare]

If you want to lunch me that's fine, I'm not a PR.

[vonflare]

mod, replace me please

I still think peace is scum.

[vonflare]

I'm really sorry for replacing out, it's just I have a lot to do IRL.

I needed to cut down on the number of games I am participating in.

[vonflare]

huh cool

[vonflare]

WHY DIDNT YOU RECRUIT ME CULT LEADER