Mini 1722: Warcraft III - Reign of MAFIA (DOOM HAS COME)

[Shiro]

Confirm

[Shiro]

VPTE:Nether

What is this unacceptable avatar I see. Go back to E.T.C

[Shiro]

VPTE:Nether

What is this unacceptable avatar I see. Go back to E.T.C

I think this is scum. The RVS reason seems forced.

vote shiro

You caught me bro

Well played

[Shiro]

Actually Albert can yiu explain that:

I got the one role I didn't want to be lol.

I'm going to pretend that this is a shadowrun themed game instead of warcraft now

What does the role you got has to do with the theme?

[Shiro]

Like I just realised that it makes no sense

[Shiro]

Actually I think ABR slipped l think He meant to say character(possible cause scourge) but accidentally said role. It makes no sense to say the one role he didn't want when roles are closed and you can't anticipate anything.

VOTE:ABR

[Shiro]

He meant to say character or role flavour(like he clarified) which is fairly ambigious but I think he slipped and said role. I dunno that makes me think he has a scourge character.

Eh I dunno null. It doesn't particularly indicate anything. Actually wait

@ Brantz are you familiar with warcraft lore?

@inte The light will help you soon see the error of your ways.

[Shiro]

Andrea shinobi I think flavour is important in theme games. It can help

[Shiro]

......

Of course I don't have a scourge character You just..... Did you just claim scum FA? you just voted me for believing I am not scourge

[Shiro]

I think I am confused here.

[Shiro]

Shiro, what is your faction flavor?

I got my stuff mixed up because I was working under the impression Scourge!=Burning Legion I got my lore mixed.

I knew something was off but didn't recheck my pm.. I will probably need to flavour claim soon to fix this mistake

*sigh*

[Shiro]

In the game, the Scourge ends up fighting the Burning Legion so I made false assumptions.

I think that's a different game.

Yea it is in wow. I made the same mistake. The burning legion is purely demons now.

@FA

Yea I got excited that I might have caught scum and because I was working under teh assumption Burning Legion!=Scourge this happened. Needless to say I made a full of myself

[Shiro]

In the game, the Scourge ends up fighting the Burning Legion so I made false assumptions.

I think that's a different game.

Yea it is in wow. I made the same mistake. The burning legion is purely demons now.

@FA

Yea I got excited that I might have caught scum and because I was working under teh assumption Burning Legion!=Scourge this happened. Needless to say I made a fool of myself

EBWODP

[Shiro]

Still not flavor claiming. Why?

if everyone wants me to I will.

[Shiro]

Some people need to start talking more.

[Shiro]

@Shinobi Arthas started as a paladin but after picking frostmourne he turned into the first death Knight. At least that is what I recall.

[Shiro]

Some people need to start talking more.

What you wanna talk about Shiro?

How awesome your new avatar is?

Why than you. I made it using those two pictures

Spoiler:

I wanted a pokemon themed Shiro image. Couldn't find one so I made one :p

Although I am p sure that is not what we should be talking about

[Shiro]

Lol, I think most people are in love with the game, that they are just sharing their thoughts on the game.
How about we play this game and discuss about Warcraft III afterwards?

Anyways, voting for shos for making fans play a theme that they are

so

in love of.

VOTE: shos

lol XD

That made me laugh

unvote

VOTE:SHADED

Where have you been mate >?

[Shiro]

He has posted a lot and appears to be a bumbling fool (in a funny and lovable way). I don't trust guys like that.

But I am always funny and loveable D:

@Mod Has shaded picked up his pm or we will have a replacement ?

[Shiro]

^ I think that is him saying yes

[Shiro]

^ I think that is him saying yes

Actually not.
I'm just trying to roleplay my flavour.
If you hate it so much I'll stop.

No I personally love it xD

[Shiro]

I was just answering to FA because I really thought your post to him was you sayin that you do

By all means carry on. I once fully roleplayed Trixie in an mlp mafia off site. I had the most of funs.

[Shiro]

anyone who posts pictures of anime stuff is trying hard to be like "hey guys im innocent"

but I haven't posted any anime gifs yet D: I mean I probably will sooner or later but not yet

[Shiro]

Shiro is giving me mixed feelings.

vote shiro

Let's see how this goes.

I had to post one since ABR mentioned it.

Ok here is the deal can you like not lynch me until day 3? Or if there is a vig kill me n2

I am going to flavour claim as well and further complicate things

I am Arthas crowned prince of lordaeron and soon to be the first death Knight

I have picked up frostmourne and corrupted my soul. At the end of day 2 I will join the burning Legion thus be capable of winning with them. I can't win if I don't survive till the end of day 2.

That is why was confused. Because Arthas when he got corrupted ended up killing mal ganis who was commanding the scourge at the time.

Role stays secret till l-1 and intent, though ftr iT is also delayed till night 2

[Shiro]

So many prods so early.

How is the replacement search going?

[Shiro]

Was that a third party claim day 1?

Yeah we're lynching this right now.

No no it wasn't. I am allied with burning Legion just with delayed Victory condition. I am pretty sure I explained it well.

[Shiro]

Was that a third party claim day 1?

Yeah we're lynching this right now.

Like what part of it seemed third party to you?

[Shiro]

I am not third party I am town that doesn't win unless

[Shiro]

He survives till end of day 2. I don't win alone. I win with town or with Nobody if I die before then.

[Shiro]

I don't understand how Shiro's claim makes him third party.

Town's wincon is lynch all scum.
Shiro wincon is survive and maybe kill scum. Probably doesn't contain kill scum anywhere.

In conclusion Shiro has a different wincon. That means he doesn't have the town wincon. That means he is third party.

Seriously guys, this ain't that hard.

I can't win alone. I don't win by surviving

I only win with town but lose regardless of who wins if I don't reach end of day 2.

If I die before end of day 2 and town wins I lose
If I die after end of day 2 and town wins I win
If I survive to end and town wins I win.


If mafia wins in any of the scenarios above I lose

I would quote exactly how it is written but it is against the rules. The closest I could was in my flavour claim post.

Why do you act like it is so hard to understand.?

[Shiro]

I am not third party I am town that doesn't win unless

He survives till end of day 2. I don't win alone. I win with town or with Nobody if I die before then.

lol why did you space out these posts like this?

I was on phone and accidentally pushed sumbit

[Shiro]

I personally don't even get his concern. He thinks I am third party when I clearly stated how my win con works.

Why be so paranoid about 3P?

[Shiro]

I like where I am voting

Bard came in made one post that appeases both sides(Showed concern over me and voted vezokpiraka) and left.

Vezokpiraka I am so-so part of me thinks he read that post as 3p cause he is scum and concerned about it cause town should even be thinking about 3p so Early. But yea not certain

Fa is town I think so is neather.

Fa reaction was really town.

Neather I doubt scum would rp like that.

Null on the rest, maaaaybe a small town lean on fire

[Shiro]

do you fuckboys not remember Post 52 and Post 56

"VOTE:ABR"

"He meant to say character or role flavour(like he clarified) which is fairly ambigious but I think he slipped and said role. I dunno that makes me think he has a scourge character. "

like really

I will just point you to post 146 Take it as you will.

[Shiro]

Lets just say if I get voted enough times, I will explode and kill myself and my voter.
I gave you a warning, now proceed to ignore it.

Whaaat?

Btw I would back a gale lynch he has done nothing thought out the whole game. Not even comment on events.

[Shiro]

God damn it FB you made me curious trying to guess which character fits a survivor role that explodes >.<

[Shiro]

Third parties are antitown. This is basic mafia theory. There is no pro-toen third party.

I am not disagreeing with you.

I am saying that you are voting me for being third party while I made it clear that I am not. THAT is what I found odd.

I have no idea what FB is doing though. I can't find a fitting character either. I am so confused.

[Shiro]

God damn it FB you made me curious trying to guess which character fits a survivor role that explodes >.<

Don't think about it too hard.
The flavor makes no sense in this regard.
If I tell you, you will laugh hard about it. Maybe even doubt that I will explode.

My first though for survivor was Rexxar But Rexxar wouldn't Burning Legion side.

[Shiro]

Fire can you flavour claim ? This seriously needs sorting.

[Shiro]

He says you will die.

Yeah I don't believe that.

It sounds like pretty bastard mechanic doesn't it ? I am trying to draw a flavour line to it but I can't :/

[Shiro]

You are an explosive sheep ?...Really ? Ok that sounds pretty trollish from the mod

[Shiro]

im glad that this is warcraft iii mafia and not world of warcraft mafia

Imagine the whole of wow lore in one mafia game O_o

[Shiro]

VOTE: Bbrantz

You mind explaining this then.

If you want to get to scum hunting that would be the best way.

You are an explosive sheep ?...Really ? Ok that sounds pretty trollish from the mod

No, not trollish at all. Has been in the game since the beginning. Was one of those Easter eggs in Warcraft 2 - keep clicking on a sheep (or any critter I think) and it would explode into a paste though it did not hurt anything. ABR gives some more interesting flavor elements as well.

I still do not see how this matters though - he is still 3rd party. Further, if he is telling the truth then a simple straight lynch may not activate him at all. I don't know what the threshold is and he either does not know or is not sharing it at this time.

No I mean. I know about the explosive sheep the thing is I find it to be a trollish flavour to give. I mean who wants to be a sheep.

Also I find it odd that fire said that it makes no sense that he explodes when it does.

[Shiro]

it is from the warcraft RPG, which is a precursor to world of warcraft

Technically didn't vanilla wow start at before warcraft 3?

[Shiro]

Bleh his flavour seems legit(even to the point that it says click as he mentioned before) and I can see the mod putting mechanics (exploding survivor) based on flavour seeing as I also have such a thing.

He might not be town but I prefer searching for scum today

[Shiro]

I don't think he is the survivor, and his post #247 tells me that he is mafia who is trying to claim survivor. And since people expect that to be a desperation move by mafia. They wouldn't expect someone to do that early on.

Why would scum say that votes are not considered clicks?

Why not? He needs all the cred he can get.

Why would he even claim what he did ? He was in no threat and I don't think getting nk crossed his mind.


Tbh I am more worried about inte who agreed with you that Third parties should die yet said the claim makes sesne(thus admitting he believes 3p claims) and unvoted when his initial vote was because he was 3p

[Shiro]

i was testing his grit obv

3p should definitely die but its lower on my radar

why are these four people voting vezok: BRantz, Vedith, Netherspite, The Silver Bard

From my understanding

Because he was saying I was 3p when I was pretty clear that I aren't and for pushing me for being an easy spot to push.

[Shiro]

@Shiro: I don't think it is wise to give nether a pass for his rp at all.

I am not giving him a full blown town read, I just find it more likely to be coming form town.

It attracts unnessary attention to do so as scum


P,edit

I don't care for the people in this game at all.

D:

[Shiro]

The point is to kill mafia.
A 3p that claimed the way that FB did is never going to be mafia.

Try again town.

What do you mean, Try again Town? Are you survivor too?

Can we all agree that Gale is really scummy and should take priority over 3ps ?

[Shiro]

Vote Gale

[Shiro]

I wonder if scum would defend me...

a 3p that if they try to kill at night might kill them.

Yea I can totally see scum wanting to defend that.

[Shiro]

i don't know if i particularly disagree with him, tho. 3p isn't a bad lynch per se, but its better than a mislynch

Ok can you take wla side on the matter

At first you say thank you and how 3p should die

Then you have a change of heart and say his claim makes sense and unvote

Then you make a few posts about how it makes sense to be neutral as a sheep (implying you want to vote 3p since that is what makes sense and why you unvoted)

Then you say 3p is infact lower on your priority list

Now you are back to I don't disagree with 3p lynch cause I prefer it over a possible mislynch?

What is it mate?

[Shiro]

In the brackets above I meant to write not vote 3p

[Shiro]

Firebringer could be a serial killer for all we know.

[Shiro]

Firebringer could be a serial killer for all we know.

Hmm, this is actually an interesting theory.

My first thought is that it doesn't make sense for an SK to claim survivor without any pressure. But maybe the way Shiro's claim was received encouraged him to do such a gambit. Even though the flavour, explosive sheep, sounds more like survivor, a serial killing sheep would be hillarious. Heck I would even be rooting for him to win if I were a bystander, a ballsy gambit by a SK sheep who wouldn't like to see that succeed.

So in conclusion I am no longer saying we shouldn't lynch him. If you convince me I might even bring the hammer.

But you have to convince me first. Who would you want to lynch if you couldn't lynch Firebringer? Everyone on the Firebringer wagon answer this and you might dine on some lovely sheep head tonight!

Firebringer could be a serial killer for all we know.

[Shiro]

@Mod Gale asked for replacement?

[Shiro]

Ok my resolve to lynch him just got raised to 11

Classic new player replacing at the sign of early pressure

[Shiro]

Ok my resolve to lynch him just got raised to 11

Classic new player replacing at the sign of early pressure

You want to lynch before we hear from the replacement....

I have not seen this mythical new player replaces when pressured but have seen this argument eluded to many times.

I am positive he is scum yes. I have seen it happen more than once. Bot as town (and get angry at town not listening) and as scum watching my partner do it.

[Shiro]

139 and 140 gave me a scum read

Eh what exactly gave you scum vibes from there?

[Shiro]

@Sw,Titus, Performer
Hiiii

[Shiro]

@Nether



You stopped ;~;


P edit

Albert wtf?

[Shiro]

Can we actually lynch scum in gale (now performer)

[Shiro]

Performer might very well act town. Will that really change the fact that the slot is scum?

^
The words of singersigner in frog mafia about my partner who pretty much was like gale and his replacement did good at looking town

[Shiro]

Hey I was calling Gale scum for his lurkish oh I don't udnerstand the game behaviours way before Fire. The fact he replaced out when the pressure hit him just sealed it for me.

[Shiro]

Has anyone played with Performer before?
I'm kind of inclined to do some meta diving.

I know Silver has but other than that, who?

I have but on-going game can't speak stuff

[Shiro]

I have... He normally refuses to say his role at L1, he goes quiet and gets lynched.
He's not been scum for me.

[Shiro]

Yes I generally do. As I do excessive lurking (which some people consider null)

[Shiro]

Bleh this wagon was scum motivated


A survivor that is risky to night kill and truly wants to town side

Jeez I wonder why mafia wanted them lynched

*rolls eyes*

[Shiro]

Sorry FB but I am always for a lynch than a no lynch day 1.
You should have just not said about the visiting and let an idiot explode.

You know wagon on scum performer was there and shining

I am just gonna note that when performer wagon started really taking off and people were ok with fire living, suddenly "oh my let's lynch FB"

Yea fb wagon has most scum on it, if not all >.>

P.edit Oh come on performer was like an almost sure hit Silver.

[Shiro]

Dude.. The only way to help town is to get shot amd take the scum with you, but you claimed and become useless.

Helping find scum would have helped.

Stopping a random pr exploding helped

Wanting to help town doesn't mean he should comit suicide and lose the game. They can go together

[Shiro]

Bleh this wagon was scum motivated


A survivor that is risky to night kill and truly wants to town side

Jeez I wonder why mafia wanted them lynched

*rolls eyes*

Seriously.

What?

[Shiro]

Yea I had fun while it lasted

Sorry for my screw up team.

@Performer

If I was town I would have done the exact same thing towards you based on gales play and sudden replace out