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I have no issue with your questioning; just the path it was going. the rephrasing is fine I think.

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something hinky with that ank flashwagon.

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@ ETL, can you answer my question to you in my wall?

Nope. It was an alt game, so I'd rather not, but you can just as easily look at the player's completed games under his topic list.

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How in the heck are we Null Thor... what a cop out. We've interacted well enough for you to give some judgement. You've never had a problem doing so in our other games.

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This is totally not a scum driven speedwagon at all. Nope...

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Switch to Lying Cat please. They're scum.

Why lynch LC if they can prove to be town over night?
If LC is scum, it doesn't make me think any less of my scum reads and hitting another scum today can give us 2 tomorrow.

They never said they can prove to be town overnight.

They said that if the scum that isn't a ninja gets lynched, that will confirm them as town. Except they could be that scum. They need a specific scum player to flip. Read their actual posts carefully.

ETL, I'm not ignoring your posts. Will get to it in a bit.

wat that's not what he said. he said he would target me and I'd be able to confirm it. at least that was my understanding of it.

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Why does getting ahold of your feelings here feel like wrestling with wet cookie dough?

The irony.

It is thick.

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anti, my hydra partner is banned. I'm continuing solo

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can we please lynch pistachio now

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i'm here if people wish to bug me. midterms are over and my projects are in. i'm in idgaf-mode. upset about my hydra partner and other Ess.

here's where i was last time i cared

Town
{massive, hecatia, ank, vedith}

people I thought were town but now i'm not so sure
{farside, davsto, thor}

scum
{pistachi0n, cataphant, maybe nacho}

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can we please lynch pistachio now

Talk to Thor he thinks Pist is town for some reason.

i know. he's been sticking his neck out super far to save pistachio and it's weird AF.

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Nachomamma8 - 3 (pistachi0n, Hecatia Lapislazuli, farside22)

^ i don't understand why this wagon exists? i mean, yeah he's a suspect but we have a night result that says he was jailed.

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I am not even remotely sticking my neck out for Pistach - and if I am then Farside is doing twice as much for Cataphant, so even if that does bug you why aren't you also poking at Farside for his defense?

How am I sticking my neck out for Pistach in a way that is beyond what other people are doing?

Everytime someone starts a case on pistachio, you chime in and try to diffuse the suspicion. it's something I've noticed and it's weird, and obviously you've done it more than farside because I haven't noticed farside re: cataphant, but i HAVE noticed you.

Like, as far as I can tell I'm just claiming that I see him scumhunting, pushing things, and don't particularly scumread him, and also apply a town lean to him.
Apparently Farside has reversed on Pista enough to switch to Nacho (something he apparently forgets while bemoaning to you that we're not lynching Pistach) and that's not weird to either of you.

it is weird.

So, seriously, what the hell are you even talking about here?

how is it that you can discuss exactly what i'm talking about and then ask what i'm talking about...

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I'm actually down with the idea of lynching Hecatia now.

what the heck... thor.


what... the heck... are you even thinking? if you are town, i seriously cannot follow you.

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Hecatia is town.

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Okay.

Since I'm not currently voting her - I don't really care about your value call there unless you wish to explain why her play falls in line with being town.
So you can make this a useful conversation or we can drop it - you appear to be taking it nowhere.

Vote Cataphant?

eh. i'd really rather pistachio go first.

if cataphant goes though, and flips town? you are most certainly scum and i will not stop until you are dead.

To the best of my awareness I have done it once - when Farside presented his case on Pistach, which is, to my awareness, the only case on Pistach that has been offered.
Farside also chimed in at the same time in defense of Cataphant.
What elements am I forgetting in the history of my Pistach defense?

Also, I note you dropped this.
Shall I interpret that as taict agreement with my understanding of reality?

No. You can interpret it as "ETL had to leave work to go to class and didn't have time to comb through Thor's ISO to find all the tidbits that came in defense of pistachio."

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I would like to not give up on this game yall but I'm starting to.

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jailing nacho again? that way i can scan him

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jailing nacho again? that way i can scan him

Man, because getting an actual definitive guilty/not guilty is

terrible

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Because if you jail him, Hecatia cannot target him.


jeez.

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Are you?

I facepalmed at Hecatia who seems to think she can target Nacho if you jail him.

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No.

She cant.

p-edit I'm looking at it right now. If you Jail nacho, no one can target him.

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Do whatever the hell you want tbh. I have ceased to give a fuck.

p-edit: ok.

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Prod dodge for halloween festivities. I'll be back on Monday.

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k i'm back. i see i missed.. nothing.

I'm getting nervous about ETL.
Ever since he's been on his own I see none of the push and drive I saw from day 1.
I wonder if his hydra buddy was posting more from his hydra partner

I am getting bored with this day. I was engaged at the beginning of this day and gave my thoughts, conclusions and reads as they stand, and now I want a flip already. Everything else is just unnecessary masturbation.

This day is dragging on and I can't do anything more until I see a flip.

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Also... I just finished midterms last week, which I mentioned would be eating up my time for about a week to two weeks. This is not news.

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Because there was me and Hecatia playing, both of whom were largely considered conftown with fairly powerful roles (Jailkeeper that can't be roleblocked, inspecting role).

And they killed Wingback.

Probably because you're scum. So like.. yeah.

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It's possible.

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Cat and Farside are who I'd want to lynch off it.

Until pistachio flips scum.

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Unless you are scum and know that pistachio isn't and you are trying to set up future lynches.

why cat but not me?

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meh i dont know anymore anything except i want to lynch pistachio.

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I WIN. all the things.

tyvm.

STUFF IT THOR.

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didn't they check massive? either way, I agree on nacho.

VOTE: nacho

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what...

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you can't post stuff like that anti. not in the mod color. otherwise i am taking you seriously.

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you can't post stuff like that anti. not in the mod color. otherwise i am taking you seriously.

ok, mom.

i'll ask you to approve all my posts from now on.

i like this idea.

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what on earth are you even talking about....

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THOR. WHERE ARE YOU.

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Vedith so busy.

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Your posting today just reminded me of this

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because nacho didn't want to vote for his partner.

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Did you... seriously... just steal that.... from like 20 seconds ago..

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farside is town. massive is town. Dav is town. ank is town.

remaining is Thor vesdith hiplop and nacho, two of which are guaranteed scum.

nacho goes today.

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etl im town you fuck

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quite the overreaction to "here's some PoE"

wtf is your problem? you're acting like it's so damn obvious a player who has little to no experience playing with you should be able to see it... when it's not.

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Farside is town.

Vedith - why are you against the Nacho wagon?

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Oh come on. I see a bunch of people online and I'm fucking bored. Let's get this game in high-gear.

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I was at work!
I just don't scum read him. The kill was halfy convenient, halfy expected.
I also think that there are people who have been anti town, Nacho not one of them.

I can understand that being reasons that don't point to Nacho being scum, but they don't really clear him. Do you think there are any associations with pistachio to players currently alive? If so, who? Why? What do you make of the wagons yesterday?

Tell me, why is Farside town?

Something she said at the start of today. It's not strong enough to convince anyone else but it's strong enough to convince me without a doubt.

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Ooo I must have flown by post 1459. I think the logic in that post is brilliant, and I did think the push from Cataphant was bussy. You make a good point that it's odd he's not following that and now saying he doesn't think it looked like a bus. It seems like the only purpose of that post was to use someone else's logic for voting pistachio to push his wagon on Cataphant. Hm. Ok. Noted.

Yes, I'll quote it.

I'd prefer not to lynch Thor today though.

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It's sad, when a mother has to speak the words that condemn her own son. But I couldn't allow them to believe that I would commit murder. They'll put him away now, as I should have years ago. He was always bad, and in the end he intended to tell them I killed those girls and that man... as if I could do anything but just sit and stare, like one of his stuffed birds. They know I can't move a finger, and I won't. I'll just sit here and be quiet, just in case they do... suspect me. They're probably watching me. Well, let them. Let them see what kind of a person I am. I'm not even going to swat that fly. I hope they are watching... they'll see. They'll see and they'll know, and they'll say, "Why, she wouldn't even harm a fly..."

Psycho

By far my favorite pic of Norman Bates.
So creepy and perfect. Great, great actor.

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So in general, comments made about flips are usually pretty scummy, depending on how they are delivered. However, this one is the opposite. I know Anti quite well and always play in his games if I have the opportunity to do so. I know that he posts the scumteam role PMs into the Scum PT. It's such a subtle, little thing. If farside was scum, it's likely she'd have already have made that comment in the scum PT. There are a million other distancing comments to make. This one was made out of sheer affinity and a desire to share it, nothing more, and it comes across really clear to me, to the point that I would offer myself to die before her.

p-edit: We're not lynching Thor today.

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Nacho are you planning to explain how you cleared hiplop at all or what?

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hiplop constantly bringing it up, by the way, is icky as fuck.

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It is weird, and I want an explanation for it.

hiplop, are you able to explain the progression of your read on pistachio from D1?

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I'll be here.

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it's horrendously anti-town to explain things further and so i won't, sorry.

omfg lol nacho you've got to be shitting me right now, right?

fuck off with that bullshit. did you target anyone N1?

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UNVOTE:

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I'm not voting farside. I'd think about Vedith.

How sure are you on your ability to read Thor?

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That picture wasn't in Pistach's role PM, which is the only way that you would have a point that I could understand even a little bit.

oh.

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ok.

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nacho, i just want to clarify that you are claiming hiplop is confirmed based on a result that you received last night, is that correct?

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or this morning or whatever. you did something last night that resulted in hiplop being conftown today, true or false?

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thanks hiplop that is actually very helpful for me!

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I just want him to answer my question.

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can you hang on a damn minute farside.

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nacho, i just want to clarify that you are claiming hiplop is confirmed based on a result that you received last night, is that correct?

or this morning or whatever. you did something last night that resulted in hiplop being conftown today, true or false?

@nacho

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WHAT IS THE FUCKING HOLD UP NACHO YOU SCUMMY STALLIN ASS

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ANTI ANKAMIUS HASN'T POSTED IN NEARLY 5 DAYS.

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it's feckin tuesday....

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no you like punishment too much.

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ok. your life actually depends on your claim at this point nacho. it's too vague and I can't make heads or tails of the facts enough to make an educated decision. because there aren't enough facts. so I really need you to claim, otherwise I'm happy lynching you.

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nacho if you are lynched and flip town the information in thread is all we have so no it is not worse to claim. I can't believe you're even saying that.

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I do because both ms and I were townreading her for a while and I don't really see the connection with pistachio.

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there is literally no possible role that would apply to.

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the prodigal son returns

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i'm a loser.

if it's not hiplop and it's not you nacho, it's thor and vedith.

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VOTE: vedith

i'm happy with this vote.

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No on Thor.

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Let me read some ISOs and see if I can see something new or different.

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Why are you so against a Thor wagon? All game? You've said you think its him and vedith but still refuse a wagon

I dunget it

i gots my reasons.

hippy talk to me about farside.

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I also thought the point he made on Thor dropping Cat today was pretty good.

I thought so too. I think my PoE is wrong. Starting from scratch.

so far, reconfirming my strong townreads on ankamius and massive. still rereading.

UNVOTE:

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hiplop can you trust me that we should not lynch him today?

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and instead focus our attention on farside or vedith? can you look into those people?

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any thoughts about farside or vedith, hippy?

i believe i have this game all but solved, but it really hinges on getting the last bit of PoE correct.

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I'm not changing my Nacho vote. I see no reason to do so.
Nothing he said even explains his claim.
No I'm not going to believe a fake fucking gambit either.

That's fine. What are your other reads?

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That's a player.

What are your other readS

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so I guess, despite 9 players, this game has fucking died.

knock it off and get back in here.

i believe the last two scum are in {farside, thor, vedith} with the possibility of nacho being a lying sack of shit.

I think the best course of action would be to lynch nacho or farside today.

VOTE: farside

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grrr... actually

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flipping nacho would be more useful.

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i dont fucking know and i would like my fucking fellow players to please get in here and help me. this is frustrating.

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vedith read is PoE, but his ISO is townier than yours, farside.

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alright this is what needs to happen.

VOTE: Nacho

L-1.

I may die tonight. hippy, massive, davsto and ankamius are conftown.

that just leaves vedith/farside to choose from if nachoTown/thorScum.

if nacho scum, thor scum. see below.

pistachi0 or Thor?

I won't be voting either of these players today, apologies.

if nacho scum, these are his partners, guaranteed. he has pushed everyone else in the game or expressed some kind of suspicion on them, but never these two. never ever ever. scumNacho hates to bus, and will avoid it at all costs. so make of that what you will, but if nacho is scum, so is thor.

p-edit: farside, to be perfectly honest with you, idc anymore. this is what i'm doing.

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ok.

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you don't have to consider him conftown today. i posted what i posted so you would look at it tomorrow should i turn up dead.

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i agree with your logic.

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So I think it seems I'm going to need to claim in order to make this work the way it should.

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UNVOTE:

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I'm a neighborizor with the ability to shoot the person I neighborize on the following night, or anytime thereafter. N1 I neighborized massive because MS and I both thought he was scum and if he was, that he'd be a difficult lynch to achieve. After talking with him in the hood I've determined without a doubt that he is town.

N2 I neighborized Thor for the same reason I did massive - think he's scum and would be a difficult lynch to achieve. I told him in the PT exactly what my role/ability was and that I plan to shoot him tonight.

I agree that davsto is a good candidate to be Thor's partner. I became suspicious about dav after N1 when he did not die, over wingback. A kill that made absolutely no sense with a claimed JK.

That is why I didn't want to waste a lynch on Thor today.

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Dav is only scum if Nacho is town, by the way, which is another reason I felt lynching Nacho would be good information, no matter what he flipped. The associatives between Nacho/pistachio were strong in my opinion, but after the discussion today I'm thinking he's maybe town.

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Is the neighborhood open at all times or only at night?

all the time.

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I find Davsto's play in regards to Nacho terrible, but it actually looks kind of townish due to how terrible it is.
Ank continues to do and say nothing - people continue to act like the slot is town.
The wagons are all being very knee jerk mob rule based off random mob rule attitudes - I do not think that is good for the town. We have one dead scum and three dead town, and people are acting like somehow we're in PoE hoo-hah land? I feel like I've learned to play a different game then everyone else.

Vote: Farside

this is quite possibly the scummiest post I've ever seen you make in all the games we've had together.

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vedith, nacho - see my claim post.

i'd be willing to vote dav.

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N2 I neighborized Thor for the same reason I did massive - think he's scum and would be a difficult lynch to achieve. I told him in the PT exactly what my role/ability was and that I plan to shoot him tonight.

Okay, so if Thor isn't killed tonight then we lynch you tomorrow.
I'm going to read up now but I assume both Massive and Thor have confirmed that they are neighbors with you.

UNVOTE: Thor
VOTE: Farside

why would you lynch me?

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vedith, nacho - see my claim post.

i'd be willing to vote dav.

Why Dav though?
I don't see him as scum.

BECAUSE. If Thor lives tonight, then Dav is a scum blocker which would explain why the fuck he is still alive.

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Because you would be lying about it?

omg vedith. yes. that is the only way Thor would live through the night. /s

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if Thor lives, lynch Thor first then go from there but if Dav is stil around at that point you need to do something about it.

either they block me tonight and prove that Dav is scum, or they let Thor die and lose a partner. do you understand now?

pedit *siiiiiigggghhhhh* jfc

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I am fine with no lynching as well to allow the test.

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VOTE: NL

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I thought it was a lynch?

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I am Mrs. Danvers, Neighborizing Vigilante

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farside... his claim about hiplop has nothing to do with anything he did last night. it has to do with information he received and he believed it would draw the NK to him.

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ok we absolutely need to get this NL now. look at Thor now pushing for Nacho lynch despite all the new information.

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he thought the lynch would go through without his support, and when it starts to fall off, he jumps on to give it a push.

bad bad bad.

do not let this happen.

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Alright so if Nacho doesn't die and Thor and some else dies Nacho is confirmed lying scum.

this is faulty logic, considering that nacho's town flip would confirm hiplop, who is just as likely a target if actually conftown. understand what i'm saying? i am also a likely target. i don't like your sudden conclusions that seem to come out of nowhere with logic holes. just so you know.

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yeah.

REALLY dislike that post by farside.

i dont believe it's alignment indicative based on past games. this is just a farside-ism.

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what i believe to be a farside-ism.

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If I was on a tablet, I'd be raging right now at all these post previews.

oh yeah?

wellif i was on your mom, i'd be ragingin at...

your face.

boom.

im good

go to bed, babe.

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didn't kill jailkeeper

yeah this was all kinds of wtf lol...

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- surrendering as last scum is not just dishonorable, it's kind of against site rules regarding playing to your wincon, and the fact that you forced the mod to find a replacement for you -

because you didn't know how to win

- in

LYLO

is beyond gross. it's just plain rude. please don't join future games with me.

i think everyone played pretty well and i really liked the setup. it was different than what anti normally does and kept people guessing up until nearly the very end. well done. and anti was an amazing mod as usual. ♥

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There was no way in hell scum could win this no matter what was done

Bullshit. Two ninjas you didn't use properly and a ton of other mistakes, like leaving davsto alive and killing me.