Mini 1739a: Netherspite's SORM II [Game Over]

[ika]

I'm getting dunk fun time

[ika]

Ika Parker says you're up in massclaim

yeah it goes to Bellaphant TO EAGER DETECTOR?

nice try titus im drunk but not that drunk

[ika]

if anyone metaed jeanne they would relaize that she rpob town based on the blitz game that jsut finished

[ika]

like its really really fucking obvious

[ika]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=110&t=64221

jenne did jack shit in the game there. here shes afreaking hipocrite about a simple scum read

[ika]

i see no similarities

[ika]

can someone make me the ,ist of claims right now?

im gettine rreaedy for work but i will jsut say mines is confirmable

[ika]

i did

[ika]

No not that. I'm something though. I'm just gonna be very vauge

[ika]

I'm at work now so bye I'll compile claims later

[ika]

Titus is confirmed not reading context. If Titus payed any attention to blitz she would realize what I'm doing

[ika]

I didn't ika. I automated all VCS.

Exactly your only renfocring my point

[ika]

Link me your point ika.

read bltiz game and you will learn cotext

[ika]

ty Frozen!

btw we should hydra

[ika]

i want to lynch between anen and ari right now

[ika]

TheDominator37
randomidget
shos
Bellaphant

^these are the leftovers

[ika]

hey fire you got a min i want to you do me a favor

[ika]

hey fire you got a min i want to you do me a favor

What up?

go to our site and go check FM18. if your clever you will get it

[ika]

if you dont get it i will inform you later

[ika]

i think reasons are self explaintory

also if the other 3 dont claim in their next post im prepose lynching them

[ika]

random is your role confirmable?

[ika]

Read first post of day 5/6/7

There's a consistency there that you should see that if you then look back here should be able to figure it out

[ika]

how about jeanne visits random tongiht?

VOTE: shos

lets get going

[ika]

jeanne can target random and confirm him

[ika]

Okay so if she is scum and Random isn't... She can go "He's town" and take the chance...
Then what? I'm not sure why you are trying to protect Jeanne here, but it looks suspicious as fuck.

ranodm is claiming to be veteran......

its a self resloving problem now. jeanne dies and flips random is confirmed veteran

[ika]

You know what? In the last game I played with this name, scum won because town refused to listen to me when it counted. Do you want that same outcome, Vedith?

jeanne jsut stop already i will lynch you out of spite at this point

your to target random tongiht now vote shos

[ika]

My god can you hair stop Jeanne you only dividing it more with you ongus

[ika]

It would be easier if Titus just revealed already

[ika]

Not until you two stop wanting me to die. You want me to die by being shot, she wants me to die by being lynched. I will stop when you two stop.

way to misrep me. if you read my post i was calling you town but an optimal play is for you to confrim midget.

we have 4 fuckign invest claims! if you die and flip town you
A) confirm random is town
B) take up the invest slot
C) make it easier to POE

so how about you stop being a hipocrite and do what i say

[ika]

vedith is your goverment role confirmable?

also ill repeat titus should reveal as mayor soon

[ika]

vedith is your goverment role confirmable?

also ill repeat titus should reveal as mayor soon

Nope.
Unless my word is confirmable?

i take it your claiming citizen then?

titus claimed mayor? did i miss that? :/ ?

not directly

[ika]

i take it your claiming citizen then?

No, I'm something else.

.........

the only non-confrmable gov role is citzen so at this point i expect a claim (and yes mason/mason leader is confirmable)

[ika]

You want me to die just so I can confirm investigative without doing any real work for town.....?

you would also confrim random as veteran?

like how oblivious do you need to be? relying on you pr alone is reall shitty to begin with. like you already have sevral epople suspecting you so wouldny you agree dying and remving your lynchability be more +town to us?

[ika]

Exact setup will be generated using random.org.
Setup will be re-randomized if one of the following conditions will not be met:
There should be either none of the masonry and cult or both of them in the game.

^FYI fire

[ika]

Exactly. There are three players who claimed Investigative, so why am I the one who's lying? Just because my posts are bad doesn't mean I am lying, you know? Of course, if the fact that my posts are bad means I must be a liar, please say so.

i never said you were the liar, your just making white noise that is annoying

[ika]

I was talking to Vedith and Anen. Those two are scumbuddies trying to pin this on someone considered bad. The fact that Vedith singled me out of the three of us while not focusing on the two at all means that he's scum and one of them is his partner. Considering Anen agrees with Vedith unconditionally, those two are scum together imo.

then whats the problem with destructing on veteran jsut to prove your point thta you are town and confirming ranodm

[ika]

My heart is closed. There's no way anyone will convince me to stray from my path my using cheap excuses. At one point, I was a gullible idiot, trusting who I thought was town. I got thanked by being suffocated by carbon monoxide. I will not make the same mistake again. Therefore, things like calling me an idiot and suggesting some cheap plan that may or may not work is off the table. Pleased and thank you. You can hate me all you want, but I will not fall for something like that again.

VOTE: jeanne

then you can jsut eat rope at this point im calling policy on you

[ika]

HEY IKA!!!!
How is your morning...
its morning for me even though its like 1 pm.

fire your scum arent you

[ika]

I gave a nice long explanation why, I even posted a link to prove it, and what I get is blatant ignorance?

i ignored it cus you are not reading what i say. if you read my post proper you would see that:

A) i dont trust them
B) i trust myself
C) your just being a god damn hipocirt whos divvidn town further then uniting them as you want

pedit: did RC say he wants it, cus otherwise its not everoyne

[ika]

god this is boring

[ika]

I still want to lynch you Ika.

i know i already madeit clear what you need to do

[ika]

bout damn time took long enough

[ika]

both protectives should be on titus.

if we have a lookout they should also be on titus

mod does mayor keep votes when turned cult or not

scince ML can only exist with cult this needs to eb explainedm after that i can start figuring out shit

[ika]

its mentioned in the role card she will loose her vote power if she lost her basic role.

ika please claim your categoy more directly

werent you int he blitz game?

i already claimed enough of my role that further claimg is anti-town

[ika]

no look at my join time ... :/

-.-

does it change anything that you could go read it then?

[ika]

anwyas titus should self vote at the begingin of each to to prove shes nto culted while that possiblity exists

pedit: one sec

[ika]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=110&t=64221

this game one person didnt claim for most of it but left enough info to claim

she was right to do so and im follwing her ideals on it cus its right

[ika]

both protectives should be on titus.

if we have a lookout they should also be on titus

mod does mayor keep votes when turned cult or not

scince ML can only exist with cult this needs to eb explainedm after that i can start figuring out shit

You wanted said lookout lynched, silly-billy...

you claimed to be investigative, you never claimed your specific role. and yes i still want you lynched out of policy and spite when you beomce a stupid hipocrite about it

[ika]

when will ppl figure out im not a goverment type role?

forzen Mason leader can only exsit in a cult worl i quoted that already

mason leaer is mutaly exlusive that only one can exist at a time

[ika]

Setup generation
Exact setup will be generated using random.org.
Setup will be re-randomized if one of the following conditions will not be met:
There should be either none of the masonry and cult or both of them in the game.

either both or neither exist

[ika]

Ty. Missed it. Had the flu. Twas more focused on wagoning myself.

Tbh, how could you not notice that ika?

i always knew it existed, i jsut though people read up

[ika]

are you guys ignoring my post ?!! I quoted the same thing in post 477 ^

and i did in 336

[ika]

the buddying is real

[ika]

Yup. Everyone buddies conftown.

That's why I played the way I did.

Now stop focusing on me and bring me scums ika.

im not om focuing on the people who are buddying you. your just anohter player used for POE at this point

Ika I'm trying again...

your claiming jailor?

I already claimed my role is confirmable, nothing more is needed. you can speculate all you like but i wont reveal. titus should know by now what im softing its prob one of my favorite roles

[ika]

Blech. Nope. I am dumb.

dont worry about it then, when the day begins it will be obvious what i am

[ika]

now help me lynch fire

[ika]

omg the wall posting.........

[ika]

like i said, if we can have someone like annen/forzen to jsut target the vet it becomes self resloving.

if they dont die we lynch random
if they die ranodm is confiremd

lookout is immune to veteran so we cna use that to confirm them, and titus cant be culted cus it would out her the moment she votes

[ika]

I'm emotional right now because there is no logical case on me and i'm in L2!!!


god bless me after this game ...

pm me post game we can talk

[ika]

I'm emotional right now because there is no logical case on me and i'm in L2!!!


god bless me after this game ...

pm me post game we can talk

about ?

your emotinal stress your having towards this game?

i dont show it but i used to be very much like you, blowing up at everything, wanting justification or reasons for stuff. a lot of thing you do now that i used to do. its not an inhrently bad trait its jsut something i know that takes a lot out of people and talking about it can help.

i saw you last game and while your reason to scum read me was wrong, you were right about it in the end and you are a very precetive player. not many player really catch my eye on "i need to see how this person becomes" but your one of them

[ika]

Because Your not even giving me the reason I'm in L2 for!

I'm going to walk a bit ...

the reason is this FMPOV: you are one of 4 investigavtive claims. all investigatives are going to argue that they are town. its a circular reasoning that you or any investigative claim can be scum at this point

pedit: got skype? i cna add you on there too

[ika]

lol who's isn't reading nor is Anne they can both die

[ika]

Yes I have been following enough to know what I'm doing. You should realize I played 1000+ of this kind of game so try again

[ika]

@agnelg, sounds good that was my plan

[ika]

i have no objections, i will say now though that if there is somethign that i knoew fomr setup itself that will not work im goign to point it out.

one of them being that executioner can not win if all scums are eliminated

[ika]

im kinda at the point where we could just lycnh her and be done with it

[ika]

Hasty hasty ika.

You want someone lynched, make a wagon.

Thoughts on Random?

i already said random is self resloving

ideal play is to plant jeanne on there and have someon that we do not trust target him to test the claim. if jeanne comes back with a "they did target" we lynch random other way is we lynch playr who didnt follow

[ika]

UNVOTE:

[ika]

i like how shos says he wont lynch jeanne first and then goes back to lynchign her

[ika]

maybe you should jsut lych the ppl who are buddying you

[ika]

how many vest do you have?

[ika]

I bet Bella isn't a survivor

Are you ccing?

its a very easy scum role to claim

vedith should target her jsut in case

[ika]

No one else claimed government ...

^that

[ika]

the lookout should be on the veteran if we are going to test his claim.

the doc can be on ml

[ika]

and a vig on survivor is kinda moot if they vest

[ika]

if anyhign vig should be narroing the pool of claims

[ika]

and what should other investigator(s) do ?

gonna garcia it from titus and do each role

give me a sec

[ika]

sherrif: should check bella, if she comes up NS shes survivor/GF. if they dont want to do that i would check in ari/annen/shos/spiffh

detective: should track me only so i can be accountable for my action (or lack of action), otherwise i would say track the bg to make sure they follow suit

investigaror: check anyone

lookout: should be on veteran if we are going that route, otherwise they should be on titus

[ika]

What ar eyou RC?

[ika]

ari/shos team confirmed

VOTE: shos

[ika]

i rather risk town bodys if we have vig then trying to confimr survivor/gf

anyone can fake claim vig then saying they "tested" the person when it does not show. if they get a vig off they cant be disputed

[ika]

i rather risk town bodys if we have vig then trying to confimr survivor/gf

anyone can fake claim vig then saying they "tested" the person when it does not show. if they get a vig off they cant be disputed

Rather a large gambit because we'd just lynch the survivor the next day outing both.

not really.....

survivor gets lynched, goes into night kills off whoever and "OMG SCUM RBER"

and until that flips and taken they can coast on it.

your also missing the larger picture of remvoing a investigavtive town slot narrows the ppol altogehter and confirmes the town slot

[ika]

as much as i hate it hes got a point on this.

i mean at worst jenne gets culted and ml jsut cleans her next night phase

[ika]

how am i sucm again?

[ika]

jeanne your like not even reading at this point, i belive to an extent i ahve never once called you sucm

[ika]

Mkay I will just post that post game

[ika]

im only dodgin cus its going to be a game of night actions soon

[ika]

i mean we can sit here and talk more but nobodys gonns do anything and its only gonna apathise more

[ika]

i mean we can sit here and talk more but nobodys gonns do anything and its only gonna apathise more

You say this. It makes me want to lynch you. You know I read best in conflict.

shame you cant make it. you should leanr to adapt new playstlyes. and if you are going to say you will get myslynched for it. thats going to happen a few games untill it becoms the norm.

why do you think i toned downa lot of my spam posting in the past few month?

[ika]

i mean to say otherwise you need to learnt o get stronger at other ways then jsut relying on conflict

[ika]

That's why I favor townblocking.

Reads ika?

beats me im waiting to go to night phase so i can be autotown and move on. you of all people know i don tdo reads in theis game i POE based on roles. i have quit reading after everyon quit caring

[ika]

if your cult yes, otherwise no

[ika]

annen cant join masons unless hes cit

[ika]

honeslty i rather lynch bella (sorry dear) only cus it s a survivor claim and she hasnt done anythign since

[ika]

doc can savea veterant attack, the wording of it it meant to implyt tat night immune roles will be killed

[ika]

if you have more the one killing source it would be known by the night death desciptions

pedit: your not a bad player dont eben thin/start that

[ika]

and it tell nothing about shos which proves your plan is worthless

shos is self resloving dont worry about it why would they wast a shot on you to begin with

[ika]

Honestly if we ever want to make sure of the veteran it has to be by lynch. We cant count on suiciding because we will never know if THAT was the cause of the kill. Theres possibly eaxh night loads of kills afaik.

again, this

if you have more the one killing source it would be known by the night death desciptions

pedit: your not a bad player dont eben thin/start that

No, kills reaolve in order, only the successful kill would show.

no all kills show.

shos dont even start with my you dont know shit about this game or setup when you try to even give me shit about setup that i know better you will learn that you dont know it.

@RC, if hes MM who self targets it would be knwon by death decisption again, vet/MM have diffretn death

[ika]

shos untill you have setup knowlage that can even start to disprove it you should sotp now

all kills show or no kills show when it comes to doc portecitons

[ika]

Exactly but NOT if the person who visits him is docced.

We need someone to visit him undocced.

you could always volatier

maybe hes has the secret plans

[ika]

you dont have to i helped nether with version 2 (aka this version)

if he says no i will inform him to correct i next game then but norally that is how it goes shos

[ika]

shos, this is the games its taken from

http://sc2mafia.wikia.com/wiki/StarCraft_II_Mafia_Wiki

how it work on there is an all or nothing deal its also my homesite so you can do what you like but you should realzie a "confirmable role" does not equaate to cult, it equates to something that can eb proen

[ika]

why would you even want to talk to scum reads

[ika]

So you can get them to spill their buddies?

Anen's offer to investigate because of scum-reads reads more pro-town than not.

wasnt ment for you to garcia darling.

who is scum and why

[ika]

also you didnt answer my question: how many vest do you have?

[ika]

and IKA said his role is definitely confirmable tomorrow ... so I'm not agreed to lynching him.

He also said that a Mason leader is confirmable before I said I was one.
He was trying to see if I was a Citizen before hand as well. So yeah, he's cult for me.

ummmmmm..... cult can convert any non-maifa/non-immune role.... it doent have to be cit

dunno what your on

[ika]

VOTE: ari

bella your not naming how many vets ypu have quit dodgin my question

[ika]

then shos should not be on you

[ika]

target the vet

[ika]

Show is night immune I am the vig

[ika]

VOTE: shos

It was why I was saying I was confirmable

[ika]

Well we have vedith for that annen

[ika]

Also if someone did get audited Bella can be survivor cus we have mm

[ika]

Also if someone did get audited Bella can be survivor cus we have mm

Do you mean can't?

Yes I'm mobile so autocrorrect is a bitch

[ika]

That what I was saying? Random is cult and vedith can purge him

[ika]

Actually it can't be that

[ika]

It's cult and mm. The auditor shenanigans is fake

[ika]

Bella is lining regardless

[ika]

Chainsaw is mm death description

Perot......

Well nvm then I thought I was 2 neutrals

[ika]

Titus

publicly revealed herself as a

Town Mayor

Titus reveal post. Check the post count bs her reveal

[ika]

Auditor is also inexperienced so we can prob find it soon

[ika]

That or mayor to make us be afraid it was culted

[ika]

As of right now

[ika]

I have to get home tonight to update the chart to figure it iut

Perot: .....

[ika]

I was thinking she was mm

Pedit: we can assume so?

[ika]

The existence of the supposing ml makes cult exist

[ika]

We know it's mm

Bella stop dosing my other question how many vests

[ika]

Vig death description can not be faked. I was expecting to succeed.

[ika]

Furthermore it's much easier to just fake claim a role

[ika]

Or we can lynch shos today and prove it by his immunity

Still at work but I ask anyone to make any argument what scum I will be up tonight

[ika]

That would require annen to by lying as well

[ika]

Ml on spiffeh, I'll vig Bella tonight

[ika]

It will confirm me and vedith

[ika]

I'll have more later on why working atm

[ika]

A lot of it hinges on shos scum flip too

[ika]

Or to better say, the mm boning a thing or not

[ika]

Being

[ika]

If it's mm flip I'm good with the double up

[ika]

Because Bella is a been to the setup/what to do?

It's irrelevant overall she's scum cus it can be them all

[ika]

Newb*

[ika]

Because his results would match with spiffeh flipping cult

[ika]

No it's not that it's that me vigging Bella scum (who could be auditor) and vedith ml purging is double confirmation but whatever

[ika]

Now that was harsh rc

[ika]

You realize that your gambiting harder on mm wifom then confirmed flip of scum right?

Pedit: it doesn't change that what you said was a little over the line

[ika]

Let me work it on my computer real quick cus I mean mm can arguably kill more then we can save even if you are right in the event

[ika]

I mean even then the thing is that mafia has to deal with cult itself so what's to say they won't do it or kill the person they recruit?

[ika]

Cult has a limit and 9 going into night still leaves it town favored

[ika]

I mean if we believe that random was janitor and it's gf left and shos flips gf it still leaves things confirmed as is

[ika]

Mm can just end up killing the neutral or its allies just as easy

Petit: no it doesnt

[ika]

Let me see if I can computer it in

[ika]

Well I can't so I need to do it mobile

[ika]

Titus can you put up the scenarios for me so I can work it out it's super hard to do it in a small screen

Perot: wasn't directed at you Titus it was rc

[ika]

Read mm/bus driver titus

[ika]

Rc will die and you prob would depending on where you end up

[ika]

and let mm and mafia gain majority?

[ika]

I mean you plan falls short cus your not taking into account the fact that mm+mad can just fuck us over just as easy

[ika]

It does if mm kills more. Removing mm is best option

[ika]

Rc work it out the scenario ends with town lost majority

Perit: I don't see him bussing the consig

[ika]

You realize that it still doesn't work with auditor then if you keep assuming I'm cult? It would be a 3v3 stalemate where mm/maf/audit can vote block

[ika]

And that's actually best case where maf and mm don't intersect

Pedit: your not refuting my point. Refute my point that you plan has no holes and we can talk

[ika]

Shos your not even voting me and saying 1v1 your scum go away

[ika]

Rc why didn't ransom alert then?

[ika]

I mean if he is vet that didn't the original target would be spiffeh so what you saying makes no sense

[ika]

But you have yet to show how the plan doesn't fail if I am cult and mm kills you+Titus

[ika]

i mean correct me if wrong but that leaves 9, mm kills you and Titus, 7, mafia shoots and kills, 6. Town is in stalemate where they can't win

[ika]

Gf is night immune bus driving does not solv it

Edit: sure cus you bus driving is the true Cruz of it

[ika]

Let go with shos is gf who gets lynched

You now have mm/cult/audit

Of fire is witch doc: vedith can target him and kill him.

Mm will be on Titus to remove her votes

Presuming you don't bus her+you ideal is to bus you wifom between annen and fa

That would leave cult to have to navigate though that and they get one more, you lynch spiffeh and remove him. You now bus yourself and vedith while he checks fa/annen

[ika]

Now if you force mm to kill you plus Titus and fire gets flipped we turbo spiffeh and mm can't spree cus cd cult is still reduced vedith can check one of the two ppl

[ika]

I mean at this juncture cult is still stuck at one person at worst

[ika]

Now if it's me spiffeh and shos flips gf. Vedith can opt pick us and check. Worst is he hits the one not recruiting. If you and Titus die to mm it still leaves vedith/annen/fa/fire against mm/at best 2 cults

[ika]

Now presuming you don't bus Titus and she does alone, it adds more to you

[ika]

Cus now mm has Selena of trying to balance it itself and that if fire is ever to become a witch doc he will die trying to save cult if mm plays wisely and targets cult next

[ika]

Go right ahread I am speaking objectively so we can talk post game.

Shos is still the lynch to be done

[ika]

And what happens when mm kills two towns? I mean for that plan to work you need to lithely have no actions submitted

[ika]

And why doesn't Titus just lynch a cult?

[ika]

I mean your also not taking into account you bussing the gf kill into auditor or cult itself

[ika]

And if fire is scum? Or if he saves a kill? What if he's bg who kills gf/mm in duel?

[ika]

I mean fire should claim at this point

I mean also what happens if mm accidentally kills auditor on another nigh your doing basic rc

[ika]

Sigh this is why I hate mobile posting I can make real work out

[ika]

Cus optimal play for you is to bus self with cult or scum force them to lose out on it

[ika]

I mean Bella/shos are confirmed so it's ideal for you to bus you/other to ensure yourself cus if like any scum will want to try to play wifom with you

[ika]

But you crux is reliant on me being scum so if that was wrong what then?

I mean if fire is witch doc you need to work that out in event he goes elsewhere. Or what if he's regular cult?

[ika]

She prob was and mm target you?

Your not at home.

[ika]

Are you reworking again?

[ika]

took you long enough

[ika]

Fa..... Ummm is there something on your mind... Number 3 has well

[ika]

She's obv thinking bout me

@titis one sec

[ika]

It's mafia.

[ika]

Struggle that is.

[ika]

I need sleep I can look though this tommorw

[ika]

[ika]

Adelen?

[ika]

Hey rc, what's to stop the gf from just killing the ml to stop the Cecil to begin with?

[ika]

Ml check comes after kill

[ika]

How? Mafia is immune to it.

Answer the question of gf lives and kills ml what's workout then

[ika]

Or that mm targets cult and kills of ml leaving cult alive to take out town majority?

[ika]

Doesn't change that town loses though does it?

[ika]

Work it out cus I'm still mobile shot and I can't format for my
Life like this

[ika]

Your not refuting he point

[ika]

Gf/mm doesn't need to eliminate them. If the ml is removed beforehand it literally becomes a matter of who auditor sides with