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Post Post #1216 (isolation #0) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 11:12 am

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Hi friends! I read about 20 pages the last time you needed a replacement but I'll need to reread to refresh my memory. Will check on you guys soon.
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Post Post #1223 (isolation #1) » Mon Nov 09, 2015 5:59 pm

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Guh, long post lost to my back button, grr.

Not feeling up to retyping it because Fallout 4 is about to unlock so I will just put my vote out there and post reasoning tomorrow during the day.

VOTE: Sir Bastion
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Post Post #1236 (isolation #2) » Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:57 pm

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Case against Sir Bastion, this is the slot that bothers me the most, and the wagons right now don't really sit well with me.

In post 106, Sir Bastion wrote:*headache*

so much noise this game...


Complaining about noise without trying to break through it, thing about forum mafia is that it is impossible to stop someone from posting their thoughts by continuing to talk. You can't fillibuster the way you can in face to face to keep people from making their reads known, or shut them down with a joke or an insult. Just post what you think and move on, no need to whine.

In post 125, Sir Bastion wrote:I had thought that nonesense talk usually ends around the first VC, but beardedcat's response makes me feel like there has been a big shift in the meta since I was last playing Mafia, and I'm sitting here looking at napkins with a quizzical look on my face.

Not a good place to start day 1.

If I was the rate the noise level based not onwho was being noisy by interaction (quipping back and forth) but who is being noisy for the sake of being noisy (quipping away with little actual back and forth jumping topic to topic) I'd say Metal Sonic is at the top of the list. But I dont know if thats cause their avatar just make them naturally sound noisier because I imagine a high pitched anime dub with every sentence

screw it

VOTE: Metal Sonic

poke away

Edit: Oh God I just remembered why Hydras give me a headache.


More complaining about hydrae and a nonsense case about MS's avatar, what even is he trying to do? Seems like a lot of words to say, "hey look at me being active and scumhunting" without providing anything substantive. Also the "screw it" pings me as scummy.

In post 419, Sir Bastion wrote:Creeper I said this with the most honourable of intentions for town


SHUT UP!



give other players a bit of goddamn room.


More whining about people actually talking. (He has not done any of this today because all of these people were a.)lynched, b.)nk'd, c.)replaced, or d.)vote silenced

I'll let you guess which I think he is most responsible for.

In post 1156, Sir Bastion wrote:
In post 1150, Dwlee99 wrote:What would be the point of a gender cop?? o.O


a bit of history to help with history, Nexus used a gender cop in the previous history mafia game:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p4298672

though I believe it is not the same in this game so dont use it as a bible for the roles I have a feeling there is a trick.

I think I have a grasp of whats going on so I have 1 question

@Beardedcat

do you have boobs?


Look at me I'm helpful townie who read the last game. I think it's actually misdirection aimed at distracting town with setup spec instead of scumhunting, and asking for a genderclaim seems like looking for PRs because he is scummy.

In post 1168, Sir Bastion wrote:
In post 1166, BeardedCat wrote:
In post 1163, Sir Bastion wrote:next question I have is with a no limit gender cop already confirmed does this power feel like a town power or a scum power to you BC?
i think the gender cop is town because they flipped town.

if you mean the vote thief it seems like a scum role because it seems like a transparent way to attack the noisiest slots who were throwing their weight around the most yesterday: CotW and us.

Setup spec isn't either of our specialities, so I don't know if gender cop makes vote thief more or less likely to be a town role.

--P


yeah I meant the vote thief

That's all I need to know for now, I'm going to reread some details from day 1 and will be back later with a case to push hopefully.


Where is the scumhunting today? He's fallen off the face of the earth, even before going VLA for the weekend:

In post 1182, Sir Bastion wrote:VLA until monday lunch time there abouts


Really sorry but I've been called into work this weekend due to it being a crunch period and the production is behind so its overtime to get the film on time.

So will be too distracted and exhausted to post. Really sorry.


But he's off VLA now, where are the reads? Where is a case?
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Post Post #1244 (isolation #3) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 3:54 am

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In post 1221, Spiffeh wrote:Yeah the entirety of Aristophanes' contribution today has been setup/role speculation and asking why he was being voted.

Please wagon.


What do you think of my case on Sir Bastion? I think he fits your criteria. We need to consolidate a wagon soon. Deadline coming up.
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Post Post #1250 (isolation #4) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:10 pm

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Ari has a lot of the same problems as Bastion today but from the beginning of the game, they might just be quiet in general. Bastion is only quiet now after being fairly active telling people to shut up the first day. Ari could be scum but I don't have as strong of a read.

Spiffeh seems fairly town to me. I like he's pushing for a wagon today and he has similar problems with people role speculating instead of scumhunting that I do.
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Post Post #1256 (isolation #5) » Wed Nov 11, 2015 3:13 pm

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He is being scummy because he doesn't want town's insights.
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Post Post #1307 (isolation #6) » Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:53 am

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I'm still more comfortable with a Bastion lynch, not sure I buy the gender logic and his actions, which I think are more important, have been scummy until right before deadline. So my vote is staying there.

I don't like how Tony voted for someone but then said he'd be fine with two other wagons, scum just happy it's not him?
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Post Post #1310 (isolation #7) » Fri Nov 13, 2015 3:14 am

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That makes sense. I'm here to avoid the no lynch too.
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Post Post #1318 (isolation #8) » Fri Nov 13, 2015 4:00 am

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I'd be willing to compromise on a Spiffeh lynch at this point. His last few posts have been really scummy.
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Post Post #1325 (isolation #9) » Fri Nov 13, 2015 4:51 am

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Can we get an official vote count?
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Post Post #1333 (isolation #10) » Fri Nov 13, 2015 6:08 am

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Alright.

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Post Post #1340 (isolation #11) » Fri Nov 13, 2015 6:37 am

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OK then.

VOTE: Aristophanes
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Post Post #1349 (isolation #12) » Fri Nov 13, 2015 6:58 am

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I would have preferred bastion, I just don't think we had the votes.
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Post Post #1401 (isolation #13) » Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:10 am

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Sorry for the lack of content from me guys. I'll get on it by this evening, irl issues.
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Post Post #1403 (isolation #14) » Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:01 pm

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I mentioned at the end of yesterday I would have been down for a Spiffeh lynch. Here is why:

In post 1252, Spiffeh wrote:Starbuck does that.

Vote for Aristophanes.

@pignash I see your case will coment on it later


Spiffeh was around close to deadline and Bastion was one of the wagons, and he never did get back to me on this.

In post 1282, Spiffeh wrote:Ugh that post seems really town.

Who's down for a Bella flash wagon?


This is the beginning of Spiffeh creating chaos at the end of the day. He was pushing for any and every lynch, he didn't really discriminate. I thought it was scummy because I felt it was more about looking pro-town than being pro-town.

In post 1291, Spiffeh wrote:Sir Bastion I don't think that logic holds up.


Bastion only gets called out once here and doesn't get voted for, could be Spiffeh distancing himself without bussing unless he has to? This is the other reason Spiffeh pinged me. I think he was trying to get the heat off of Bastion (who I still scumread) with his posts at the end of day 1.

In post 1313, Spiffeh wrote:TonyMontana wanting to lynch me at the eleventh hour for my behavior after I've been acting this way all game is scummy af

Scum's true colors show when deadline approaches!

Anyone want to lynch him?


Now he throws Tony's name out.

In post 1321, Spiffeh wrote:Just because I haven't been around most of the day people just conveniently disregard everything I fucking did yesterday that got them to previously town read me and it's ridiculous.


Whining about why he wasn't being townread anymore. What's the point of this? I don't think town should care if they are being read as town, just that they help town win. He also naked voted for Bellaphant and asked others to join him without a real case that I saw.

Today's interaction with BC convinces me that one of the two (three? haha) of them is scum. I don't think that is TvT or an elaborate scum pantomime. So I'll be looking into BC next to see if I'm off on my townread of them.
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Post Post #1628 (isolation #15) » Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:35 am

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Woo!
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Post Post #1629 (isolation #16) » Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:38 am

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GG y'all. Sucks that I got modkilled but couldn't be helped.
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Post Post #1639 (isolation #17) » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:09 am

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Mason right, Titus? I think you've mentioned before they throw off your reads.
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Post Post #1673 (isolation #18) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:48 am

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Yeah I thought I cleared bastion and spiffeh with my cases but they got lynched in order.
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