Mini 1760: A Midsummer Night's Dream (GAME OVER)

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: LLD

[Spiffeh]

Hey guys I'm town which is p. cool

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: Spiffeh I think like 7/8 people in all games I've played who have claimed to be town during rvs were actually scum.

Legit vote, not random vote.

7/9 now!

[Spiffeh]

You won't

[Spiffeh]

You're just jealous my avatar is cuter than yours

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: Aristophanes

Anyway this is scum

[Spiffeh]

^ he's probably scum too

[Spiffeh]

lol I like you

[Spiffeh]

Guys srsly Aristophanes is scum

[Spiffeh]

Lol LLD this guy isn't even scummy

[Spiffeh]

I'm picking up all kinds of awkward vibes. I don't know if they're scum vibes.

Oh I didn't see this post

[Spiffeh]

I mean I am a confirmable neutral so why do I need to be read by anyone?

More details please

[Spiffeh]

How do people feel about Dwlee claiming neutral?

[Spiffeh]

Can you just claim your WC?

[Spiffeh]

Dwlee are the people you loverize informed of it?

[Spiffeh]

How about we tell Dwlee who to loverize and threaten to lynch him if he doesn't comply?

[Spiffeh]

Or vig, w/e

[Spiffeh]

I mean odds are you're not gonna die because of your claim and as long as you do what we say.

And if you don't die you'll likely reach your condition by the end of the game anyway.

[Spiffeh]

I kinda think Aristophanes is town now

PEdit: ^ Which head are you?

[Spiffeh]

I find SnarkySnowman's lack of faith in Spiffeh suspicious.

What does this even mean?

[Spiffeh]

The one who doesn't claim

???

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: Friendless Seniors

[Spiffeh]

The tiger skin is atrocious and I hate it but it's starting to grow on me

VOTE: Spiffeh I think like 7/8 people in all games I've played who have claimed to be town during rvs were actually scum.

Legit vote, not random vote.

right off the bat this is disgusting logic for a so called legit vote. and later on you keep pushing it.
nothing inherently scum about claiming town in RVS just because you've seen other scum do it.

VOTE: Snowman

Spiffeh's early scumreads are pretty consistent tone/playstyle wise with what i think of his towngame. Hippy has hydra'd with the dude so he probably knows him better.

You voted Friendless Seniors, but didn't comment why. Instead you made a disconnected joke comment to GreyICE.

Beeboy's posting looks relaxed and comfortable.

This is not even close to grounds for reading beeboy as town
but you raise a really good point about Max not immediately explaining his vote.
there's no town reason for him to do that but there is a scum reason: trying to cover up an inconsistency (saying Snowman is suspicious and then voting Trump) by giving a reason for the vote after the fact.
absinthe is thinking along the same lines as me and i like that.

townreads on absinthe and spiffeh.
scumreads on maxwell and snowman.

beeboy and absinthe probably aren't scumpartners, because that townread on beeboy was weak logic.
noting that both aristo and maxwell sort of weakly called out snowman on that spiffeh push but either delayed or deflected from it.

-EP

This post is way too tryhard.
I hate how eager they are to come to my defense and their push on Snarky for what is obviously an RVS wagon is just really bad
Like why are you bashing the beeboy townread (which is perfectly fine btw?) when your scum read is equally baseless?

[Spiffeh]

What's typical in Theme games? Daytalk or not?

When the scum started flipping in my last game, it became pretty obvious they didn't have daytalk, but it seemed like everyone assumed daytalk was possible to begin with.

This is town

[Spiffeh]

[Spiffeh]

He is though sorry to burst your bubble

[Spiffeh]

He is though sorry to burst your bubble

absinth is a she are you even paying attention

Whoops sorry absinthe

See this is even better though because you know my real feelings before my natural inclination to assume females are town even kicked in for this slot!

(This is really bad I know but I am breaking the habit dw)

[Spiffeh]

LLD be nice lol

[Spiffeh]

GUYS

FRIENDLESS SENIORS IS 100% SCUM

[Spiffeh]

LLD thoughts on Friendless Seniors?

[Spiffeh]

Not really?

That's not why they are scum.

[Spiffeh]

Come vote then?

[Spiffeh]

I definitely disagree with is a 3p we want to drag to end game.

I don't trust his ability to find scum well enough for the one part and don't really believe him. I don't want to lynch him right now though, either.

@goodmorning, explain the ICE vote?

pedit: LLD its your good pal Monsters <3

Town hiplop doesn't care enough to ask filler questions like the one to GM

I explained why their first wall post was bad.

And I think they are trying to buddy up to you, LLD.

[Spiffeh]

3. Not really? I like her as a person and am defending her PURELY ON THOSE GROUNDS. I have kept my game thoughts on her separate and secret?

I feel the way you vocalized your approval of the 3rd party lynch was only to appease LLD.

Although that's assuming LLD is town which is a dangerous assumption to make

[Spiffeh]

Oh I didn't even realize Fairies were scum

lol?

[Spiffeh]

But why would he claim that if that was ACTUALLY his WC?

[Spiffeh]

No he isn't I agree with literally everything he is saying

[Spiffeh]

Snarky what was the point of linking that game?

[Spiffeh]

itlepip talking exclusively about the 3rd party claim, being non-committal about it, and not sharing reads is pretty bad.

What are everyone's thoughts on an itlepip-FS loverize?

[Spiffeh]

GI can you elaborate on why Snarky is scum?

[Spiffeh]

beeboy FWIW I don't really get what you're trying to say either

[Spiffeh]

GM might be scum

[Spiffeh]

Snarky how am I on the same level as Thelonewolf who has yet to post?

[Spiffeh]

UNVOTE:

[Spiffeh]

Why are people just wagoning without reason and not at all discussing who they want Dwlee to loverize?

[Spiffeh]

pedit: cause we have plenty of time in the day, also a bit kettle black with what you are accusing me of.

Having plenty of time in the day does not excuse the things I expressed having an issue with?

And lol no

[Spiffeh]

We select one person to choose what he does, and we hold that person accountable.

I see this backfiring really easily

And I think it would be better for everyone to share their thoughts and me you and GI just decide together

[Spiffeh]

What would you do if it were your choice?

Besides lynch Dwlee

[Spiffeh]

Tbh loverizer is such a pain in the ass mechanic

[Spiffeh]

Like what I don't get is why people aren't giving their own thoughts on who Dwlee should loverize if they're just going to blatantly go against what you guys have decided lol

[Spiffeh]

We're not lynching LLD

[Spiffeh]

Because she's not scummy

[Spiffeh]

Like you guys are like "omg LLD you're scum for saying this thing I don't agree with"

[Spiffeh]

Please explain why you're reading her as scum

[Spiffeh]

Please explain why you're reading her as scum

[Spiffeh]

I mean just tell me why she's scum

You seem to be outraged that I can't see it so there must be a simple explanation?

[Spiffeh]

Me I assume

(Hint: say town)

[Spiffeh]

Yeah I noticed that I was kinda waiting for an explanation

[Spiffeh]

Ok we get it

[Spiffeh]

I also think itlepip is town here

[Spiffeh]

A lot of it is a gut thing that's hard to explain

[Spiffeh]

I have such vague feelings about everyone I need to dig into this

[Spiffeh]

Post like Spiffeh and you won't have that problem

What's this supposed to mean?

[Spiffeh]

Also yeah LLD is not Day 1 lynch material lol

and she is probably town here

[Spiffeh]

hiplop why is beeboy scum

[Spiffeh]

I just fucking said it read

go take a nap <3

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: SnarkySnowman

[Spiffeh]

UNVOTE:

[Spiffeh]

Yo LLD you might be scum

jsyk

[Spiffeh]

I'm starting to want to lynch Dwlee too

And not play this fucking loverizer game every day

[Spiffeh]

A chainsaw defense is when somebody defends someone by attacking the person attacking them

Generally attributed to scumbuddies

Chainsaw defenses aren't even fucking scummy but that's a story for another day!

[Spiffeh]

Ugh but now I have to think critically about who I want to lynch

[Spiffeh]

I'd like to loverize myself and TheLoneWolf.

noooooooooo

[Spiffeh]

What's wrong with this?

The only downside to this is if you think we're both town.

Do you think we're both town, Spiffeh?

I can't make up my mind about you but I know you're an asset if you're town and don't want to risk losing you.

I think TheLoneWolf is town.

[Spiffeh]

Dwlee don't do that please

[Spiffeh]

are you willing to offer yourself as a poison pill, for a better target?

No

I want it to be GM and someone else

[Spiffeh]

Its not GM today. Try again.

Why not?

[Spiffeh]

Ugh that would require me to read more

[Spiffeh]

I'll get back to you

[Spiffeh]

I'm not getting loverized silly goose

[Spiffeh]

People I won't lynch today: Snarky, DWLee, Aristophenes, Beeboy, LLD

You missed someone

[Spiffeh]

Day's not ending for awhile relax

Also itlepip stop

[Spiffeh]

As a last resort I am fine with a Spiffeh lynch because he has been blatantly trying to look town all game.

LOL WHAT

[Spiffeh]

The beeboy wagon sucks.

Also how could you say this DIRECTLY AFTER that post?

[Spiffeh]

Because I'm obviously town but w/e

[Spiffeh]

Hi I'm here

Will get to this later

[Spiffeh]

Spiffeh: itlepip, beeboy (2)

Seriously what is this?

Good boy

[Spiffeh]

itlepip can you talk about why you're scum reading me?

[Spiffeh]

Ok well none of that is really scummy?

It's more a result of recent apathy due to the loverize mechanic (which I find really frustrating to figure out) and difficulty forming reads in general this game

My early stuff was obvtown af though so no excuses!!

[Spiffeh]

That being said I will be doing things with this game soon

[Spiffeh]

I'm not even hardcore town reading her. I can't really read LLD well at all but I know she's a huge asset if she's town and definitely not Day 1 lynch material

Like I have been waffling on her all game I'm not blindly town reading her

[Spiffeh]

Nah Aristophanes you should know I do this like every game.

Objectively I know when I look town and when I don't. Early game I was very obviously town

I have not been recently, which is why I'm not bitching anyone out that is voting for me

I plan to rectify this when I read recent stuff and get back into it

[Spiffeh]

Do like Maxwell and beeboy or something

[Spiffeh]

TLW why do you think beeboy is scum?

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: Friendless Seniors

[Spiffeh]

Nope they're getting lynched

[Spiffeh]

Lol

[Spiffeh]

AP I have barely posted since you subbed in

What's up?

[Spiffeh]

I kinda hate your justification for townreading btw

Like the conclusion is correct but I really don't think I've been trolling

[Spiffeh]

No one has claimed scum

Other than Dwlee I guess

[Spiffeh]

AP what did you want me to talk to you about?

[Spiffeh]

Pretty much

I haven't read many of their posts but EP's first one was really bad (as I explained earlier) and the fact that they are calling Dwlee town while previously acknowledging his claim means that their scum hunting is only to save face.

[Spiffeh]

Hey Dwlee

You're gonna do what I say with your loverize or I will ensure you don't achieve your WC

ok?

[Spiffeh]

Dwlee I'll probably give you a pool of people and you will choose two to loverize

If anyone outside the given people is loverized I'll make sure you don't live too long

[Spiffeh]

I still need to read a lot I'll let you know within 24 hours

[Spiffeh]

Pretty much?

You don't really have a choice

I promise I will be fair

[Spiffeh]

AP you sound kinda fake

[Spiffeh]

Ok

[Spiffeh]

Um no?

Dwlee I will give you your options in a few hours when I read what I missed

[Spiffeh]

Friendless Seniors is scum.

[Spiffeh]

Why don't you want me to help you?

[Spiffeh]

Ew hiplop

[Spiffeh]

gm what are your thoughts on beeboy?

[Spiffeh]

See this is why I should read this game

[Spiffeh]

beeboy what are some of your reads other than abs?

[Spiffeh]

What about that makes you want to lynch them?

[Spiffeh]

I'm still ok with being today's lynch.

I'm not really threatenable.

VOTE: Absinthe ?

beeboy is THIS the reason you have been tunneling Absinthe?

[Spiffeh]

Lady is also probably town

but I think she's detrimental to the game. She keeps coming in and exploding things.

This is precisely why I think the public loverize is dangerous.

VOTE: Lady

This is purely because the throw your weight around and unilaterally decide who to loverize is dangerous. It comes down to either you or Dwlee himself IMO if you don't cut this shit out.

This actually fucking awful though

[Spiffeh]

This is precisely why I think the public loverize is dangerous.

VOTE: Lady

This is purely because the throw your weight around and unilaterally decide who to loverize is dangerous. It comes down to either you or Dwlee himself IMO if you don't cut this shit out.

I have no idea what's going on with lone wolf.

Any theories?
He is odd.
Especially that whole "yeah,I'm scummy guys! Why are you all townreading me!?" Thing

How are you actually supporting this shit?
It's like he's playing a different game than the one I'm reading. It's hard to describe.

Cool, I get that actually.
Good way to put it

[Spiffeh]

Oh I meant to scold Aristophanes for encouraging such awful behavior in that post

[Spiffeh]

I am loverizing LLD and Ari

If I'm lynched today and Dwlee still does this tonight then leashing was a bad idea that town needs to rethink pronto.

Agreed.

Should we just lynch him now and simplify the game?

Aristophanes panics after Dwlee announces that he is one of the targets for loverizing

He is probably scum

[Spiffeh]

yes? Trying to lynch dwlee and reduce town's killing power just to prevent yourself from getting loverized is the right play for scum and the wrong play for town so therefore you must be scum.

Good boy itlepip

[Spiffeh]

This is the kind of post that town Spiffeh made in other games but it's the kind of "town meta" that's so easy to replicate as scum so there's no way I'm giving any extra consideration to town Spiffeh because of meta

So you said this just to make it look like you were thinking critically about my alignment without actually taking a stance one way or another?

[Spiffeh]

In a post after that you say I'm a scumlean

Why?

[Spiffeh]

Dwlee, pick two of {MaxwellPuckett, Aristophanes, TheLoneWolf, beeboy} as your loverize targets

Failure to do so will result in your eradication.

If one of them is lynched then pick between the three remaining.

[Spiffeh]

GM it is awful

Don't know if it's necessarily scummy though

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: Aristophanes

[Spiffeh]

I assure you they aren't

Not that it really matters what you think

[Spiffeh]

I assure you they aren't

Not that it really matters what you think

Sorry this was douchey

You DID claim 3rd party though so what do you expect?

[Spiffeh]

His sudden desire to lynch Dwlee after Dwlee announced he was one of the loverize targets is scummy as fuck

He was perfectly fine with allowing Dwlee to live until his name was brought into it

[Spiffeh]

hiplop don't be scum ok?

That would be really annoying

[Spiffeh]

Dwlee do you want to die?

Because you're really working hard to make that happen

[Spiffeh]

Dwlee I advise you to stop role fishing

[Spiffeh]

No Dwlee

Don't claim who you're targetting

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: beeboy

Isn't deadline soon?

[Spiffeh]

Then you shouldn't have claimed third party?

Lol

[Spiffeh]

Dwlee add droog in your list of loverize options

[Spiffeh]

Yeah beeboy can die

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: droog

[Spiffeh]

You are scum though

[Spiffeh]

Actually fuck beeboy is scum isn't he

[Spiffeh]

droog your response to votes is to immediately discredit and shit on the people voting for you

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: beeboy

Sorry though this needs to go

I hate how he's fueling the droog wagon fire without committing to it

[Spiffeh]

Bad read progression isn't even scummy

My opinions change on a whim all the time

But it's only scummy when it's not in your favor!

[Spiffeh]

Yes

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: droog

[Spiffeh]

AP help me bus Droog then

Also I'm obviously town so you can shush

[Spiffeh]

AP you are scum reading droog

He currently has a wagon

1+1=2

[Spiffeh]

Max vote droog or die when he flips scum

Thanks

[Spiffeh]

itlepip

that is not what that means at all lmao

[Spiffeh]

But Max when I have so much power I like abusing it

[Spiffeh]

Yes because scum want to lynch themselves

Knock it off

There is so much shitty resistance to the droog wagon and it is unacceptable

[Spiffeh]

I want our theoretical doctor on Dwlee99 btw if we have one. I learned from another game off site that if someone claimed 3rd party like that there is no way he would be playing against town since he wants to rely on coordination with others to win.
Dwlee no one will get you lynched so sheep me on this wagon plox.

Oh my God

Are you kidding me

[Spiffeh]

I'm glad you guys discussed this urgent matter when there are less than 12 hours left and we aren't even close to a lynch

Everyone please vote for droog

Like Abs wtf are you doing?

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: AP

You guys are bad at this

If he does flip scum I'll eat my words

[Spiffeh]

Dwlee hammer before deadline tonight or die

Your choice

[Spiffeh]

Who did you loverize?

[Spiffeh]

Also GM why were absent when it came down to the wire?

It gives me a bad vibe

[Spiffeh]

I knew it was an awful lynch

No one listened to me!

[Spiffeh]

Max and droog are scum

Still

[Spiffeh]

Ab there were like four hours left

No other lynch was happening

[Spiffeh]

all that discussion yesterday
about who to lver
all that drama

and you turn your decision over to spiffeh?

I gave him a list of people to choose from

He chose from that list

I'm glad he chose you though

[Spiffeh]

droog who is scum?

[Spiffeh]

You're right let's just stop talking about our scum reads then

[Spiffeh]

gm has none of this anger dissipated over the night phase

Because this emotion seems faked to me atm

Don't be mad just my observation

[Spiffeh]

No

Friendless Seniors is town

[Spiffeh]

Aristophanes I recommend claiming

[Spiffeh]

You got caught because you were scummy

Sorry buddy

[Spiffeh]

just "the clown is scum"
"droog is still scum here"
this is an awful town

Why are you assuming everyone voting you is town?

[Spiffeh]

[Spiffeh]

Normally this would give me like... a bit of pause, but Lost Marbles managed to convince me he was town, as scum, after being hammered, for absolutely no reason that I could even see. So now that we have droog, who actually has a reason, I don't want to hear it.

Ongoing game

[Spiffeh]

I guess we just wait on a CC

Looking back though Ari fits the bill

[Spiffeh]

Ari in the future pls don't be scummy when you're a mason

[Spiffeh]

Dwlee loverize between Max, GM, Lonewolf, and beeboy

[Spiffeh]

Who gives a fuck?

[Spiffeh]

Lol

[Spiffeh]

Guys PSA
Titus is scum

Don't listen to anything she says

Thanks

[Spiffeh]

I'd rather just lynch Titus even if Aristophanes dies with her honestly

I don't care if it's a one for one trade

[Spiffeh]

Titus that's BS

If we lynched Dwlee, from your perspective scum would kill you and Ari

Leaving us in a supremely shit position

[Spiffeh]

LOL TITUS JUST SCUM CLAIMED

[Spiffeh]

Like Titus obviously hasn't read the fucking game because she didn't know Dwlee had claimed third party

droog was scummy af

Anyone following her lead is either scum or dumb

[Spiffeh]

Titus I forgive you for saying such things

It's not your fault you replaced into a scum slot

[Spiffeh]

beeboy who are you scum reading then?

[Spiffeh]

Right. and you wouldn't be declaring me scum on fucking nothing without reading

You have way more respect for me than that as a player

So you're scum

[Spiffeh]

BEEBOY WHAT DO YOU MEAN NOT COOPERATING WITH FUCKING TOWN

HOLY SHIT

WHEN HAS THAT EVER PREVENTED ME FROM BEING TOWN BEFORE

[Spiffeh]

There doesn't have to be a case for scum to be caught

[Spiffeh]

Lol Titus only starts attacking me when it's clear I'm not wavering on my scum read of her

There is no reason to be townreading this

[Spiffeh]

beeboy

First of all we don't lose if we lynch Titus and she flips town? Where are you getting this?

And, say we don't lynch her assuming she is town.

If she's town SCUM WOULD JUST KILL THEM AND WE'D BE IN THE SAME POSITION AS WE WOULD BE IF WE LYNCHED THEM

So don't give me that shit thanks

[Spiffeh]

Titus you're telling me

Scum Dwlee gets the approval of his scumbuddies to claim loverizing third party immediately on Day 1

This is what you are saying happened

[Spiffeh]

Why would scum draw so much fucking attention to themselves on Day 1 with that claim

How would they know people wouldn't react JUST AS YOU ARE NOW in response to his claim?

That is such bullshit Titus I refuse to believe you are town with this shit you're pulling

[Spiffeh]

Titus you're telling me

Scum Dwlee gets the approval of his scumbuddies to claim loverizing third party immediately on Day 1

This is what you are saying happened

Why would scum draw so much fucking attention to themselves on Day 1 with that claim

How would they know people wouldn't react JUST AS YOU ARE NOW in response to his claim?

That is such bullshit Titus I refuse to believe you are town with this shit you're pulling

Titus respond to this

[Spiffeh]

Titus you're telling me

Scum Dwlee gets the approval of his scumbuddies to claim loverizing third party immediately on Day 1

This is what you are saying happened

Why would scum draw so much fucking attention to themselves on Day 1 with that claim

How would they know people wouldn't react JUST AS YOU ARE NOW in response to his claim?

That is such bullshit Titus I refuse to believe you are town with this shit you're pulling

Titus respond to this

[Spiffeh]

There's also the fact that I am the only one that's scum for taking Dwlee's claim for granted

Not everyone who else who did too

Her scum read of me is convenient and it's not a coincidence that I just happen to be the one pushing her slot the hardest

[Spiffeh]

Point me to your response please

[Spiffeh]

I don't see a slip

He's assuming Titus is town in that scenario

[Spiffeh]

But yeah walk me through what you're talking about

[Spiffeh]

OH

SHIT

I GET IT

[Spiffeh]

beeboy I don't understand what you're saying

please clarify

[Spiffeh]

gm come back and talk to me I think you're town

[Spiffeh]

I said assuming Titus was town I thought Dwlee only had to make 1 pair to leave the game.

Idk if I buy you thought this was the case

Because in that scenario why wouldn't you just be telling everyone Titus was clean? If Dwlee only had to get one pair of scum-town and he stayed in the game, with Ari being confirmed mason, Titus would be clean.