Mini 1768: Detective Conan Mafia (Game Over: Town Wins)
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In post 32, Phoenix Wright wrote:In post 31, KainTepes wrote:VOTE: Phoenox Wright maybe both of them are TOWN??? You didn't consider that??
I don't like how defensive and tense they got right off the bat. It's just a feeling, but I think at least one of them is scum
if Nick had also listed the option of both of them being town, I would have called his post useless for avoiding putting down any opinion at all.
the fact that he put down the option of it being early scum distancing (instead of just saying 'lol there's at least one scum there) says to me that he's actually thinking about their alignments.
as for my stance on that vs... im not sure yet. tbh I felt the same as gamr when I saw the post saying how his RVS vote didn't advance the gamestate, but I held off to see what soren was looking for.
I dislike that Soren voted gamr for voting him, when game's reaction was similar to mine. Soren, what would a Townie reaction to your callout be? why do you think it's weird to interpret your post as an attack?All hail the king, baby.
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i think you said it there. 'Kain didn't think about the post deeply enough and instantly thought he made a scum driven post'. if you think that's what happened, then i think it follows that the action is null.
if Kain didn't think about it enough, and just thought it was surface level scum, then i don't think it indicates alignment! town Kain is doing what i just said, scum Kain is doing the same thing since he believes it's legitimate.
i'll wait for kain to respond to the reaction to his vote.
hey Not_Mafia are you the type that gets bored with games when you're a VT?
and Soren, your other points are fine and make sense with how you read garmr's reaction, but i think i should point out that a random vote that does not advance the gamestate is not anti-town. it doesn't hurt anything, it's just neutral. it's about as neutral as my Phoenix Wright vote, since even though Nick is there to respond to it, he wouldn't, because there's nothing to respond to. (he could continue to joke, but that's not alignment indicative)
it's like a fluff post. they're not anti-town by themselves. a string of them from one player is something to look at, though.All hail the king, baby.
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i'm liking garmr more than Soren rn. FA was right when she said his points were weak.
In post 44, Yarrrrgami wrote:a real scourge is my alt
I have seen not mafia as vt before and wasn't all like "role sucks bye" so i wanna now what role he has!
I am blatantly rolefishing him cos he brought it up.
yo mollie i'm taking that as a compliment! even if you didn't mean it like that, too bad, i've already taken it
i'm fine w/ that rolefishing business, that's what i was kinda getting at by asking him about his behaviour as vt.All hail the king, baby.
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firebirdo is phoenix? i just know i'm gonna get that mixed up with firebringer, haha.
yeah, Kain is pretty textbook new. his yelling is.. really making me laugh considering that avatar! i'm kind of wondering if this is intentional...
Kain, Phoenix didn't know Turtles was a hydra (2 people in one account) until after he told them.. so obviously Phoenix was not scumreading them for that.
hey Tails! how's my loathsome copy? no i totally didn't steal my lines from metal sonic, why would you think that? do you think that garmr is fake overreacting, or do you think that scum are more likely to overreact?
preview: i'm also townreading garmr, firebringer, but i can why people would think otherwise. why is voting him scummy? you calling lynchbait? c:
i think scurvy means scummy..?All hail the king, baby.
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well, i don't think either of those votes are going to go through considering the ambiguity... esp if your nickname is firebird as well! i don't see why they'd been voting you since you only posted recently, so i think it was probably phoenix wright.
so far, soren and Turtles have voted garmr. i think it's unlikely that both of the scum jumped on him at once, but i guess stranger things have happened. do you think they're both scum, or just one? if one, which? Turtles' vote is kinda weirding me out, though..
preview: ah, that's what i thought. rise from the ashes, nick!All hail the king, baby.
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In post 83, Firebringer wrote:
This has given me mixed feelings btw Frozen. On one hand, I don't think you would do this as scum.
On the other....................................I don't think statistically you could be town.
Man, I am horrible by relying on statistics.
wait, i thought you were kidding about FA being scum because you've only seen her as town...
statistically, her consistently being town for you has nothing to do with her alignment now! you said it yourself that it was gambler's fallacy, so i thought maybe you were kidding.. please say you are.
i noticed (that's what i meant by weird, earlier, but you bringing it up so quickly makes me feel better about you), but i didn't say anything cause i wasn't sure if you were doing a role thing! you have a double vote then?All hail the king, baby.
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i agree that this sounds like more of a playstyle issue than anything else. Tails is saying what he would do as town, which doesn't account for what other players might do as town. i said this earlier, but i think that scumreading Soren for that initial post isn't, by itself, wrong.
i was gonna have words with sonic, but it looks like he's had the sense to back off. i'd say more to take advantage of the sheer sonic superiority in this game, but i'm just too nice.
(seriously though, i'd call his vote and quick unvote after rereading towny!)
preview: ah, i'm trying to keep up with the convo here. i wanna talk about the Phoenix Wagon.All hail the king, baby.
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In post 137, Tails wrote:And everybody is seriously missing that scum does not say what Phoenix did.
you're referring to how scum phoenix would have called it tvt? if so, i don't really agree... i think phoenix's post could have come from either alignment. scum like to call things TvS.
sorry for a bunch of replies in a few posts instead of just one larger post, but i find writing walls just gets you ninja'd, plus individual posts are like... waaayyy easier to respond to
oh, and preview says you think phoenix's wagon is scum driven. i'm planning on examining the votes to really see how i feel about them, but as it stands i'm not liking phoenix.
preview: Sonic's idea that Barn is trying to rile people up is interesting. i didn't like barn when he showed up. lemme read those exchanges again.All hail the king, baby.
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In post 103, Barn Of Justice wrote:VOTE: pw
They deserve the noose. I'm having as much trouble sorting town and scum as I am sorting troll or bad.
garmr wagon is lol worthy.
why haven't you said anything about the people on the garmr wagon? there are like.. two.
this reminds me of when scum call a wagon on lynchbait as silly, so they can have the credit of 'not being on the terrible wagon'. it seems stilted because there's barely a wagon on garmr, and no momentum that would need to be fought against if Barn really though garmr was town.
In post 124, Barn Of Justice wrote:Someone kill Tails please, I don't want to be in the same game as them.
i hope this is because Bulba was on your blacklist, and you didn't realize you joined the same game as them. (that, or Tails joined afterwards)
that said, i still really dislike these posts. they seem to happen, like, every game...
In post 134, Barn Of Justice wrote:PW, are you scum?
filler question.
In post 143, Barn Of Justice wrote:In post 139, Phoenix Wright wrote:In post 134, Barn Of Justice wrote:PW, are you scum?
Nope. Are you?
Are yousureyou're not scum?
more filler.
VOTE: Barn
i'm still planning on examining the phoenix wagon cause i don't really like nick's reactions.
garmr, i'm kind of bothered by how it took pheonix this long to get a scumread out of his pretty fast wagon. what do you think?
preview: what nevermind everybody unvote phoenix if he promises to use ace attorney gifs for the duration of the gameAll hail the king, baby.
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In post 153, Tails wrote:In post 148, A Real Scourge wrote:
you're referring to how scum phoenix would have called it tvt? if so, i don't really agree... i think phoenix's post could have come from either alignment. scum like to call things TvS.
I think he would have either voted one, distanced from the fight, or defend whoever was town here (this is where tvt comes in if they're both town). What he did does not benefit him at all as scum. It makes a lot of sense coming from someone who doesn't have any outside information.
huh... yes, i guess that's true. particularly the 'defend who was town', bit. i don't see scum voting one, but i do see what you mean when you say his post has no benefit to scum.
i'm not really convinced on nick's alignment, but i was wondering who you think the scum on that wagon are.
In post 154, Phoenix Wright wrote:Prime example of you asking a silly question just to look like you're engaging
In post 70, Phoenix Wright wrote:In post 69, Turtles of Despair wrote:I'm not actually seeing bee's read on Garmr. Will probably discuss with him before I get back.
Kain seems new, and I don't think he would deliberately attract attention like this as scum. I've seen him post elsewhere before and it tends to be similar, so I'm not inclined to take it as a tell.
@Phoenix: Do you still believe that one of Garmr/Soren is scum?
~ kirro
They haven't posted on this page at all, so I don't know why you think my opinion would change
eh... nick, i think barn's questions to you have been far sillier. Turtles' question is either silly or just a mistake.All hail the king, baby.
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In post 158, Tails wrote:@Scourge: I don't think I've played with anyone in the Barn hydra before. They were essentially posting a throw away line targeting the type of player I modeled this alt after. Given you have experience with MS, you know exactly what I'm talking about here.
i don't have too much experience with mafiascum, but unfortunately what experience i have means i know exactly what you're talking about. unrelated, what do you think about Barn's alignment? esp as it relates to the Phoenix wagon you disagree with?All hail the king, baby.
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In post 162, Yarrrrgami wrote:In post 134, Barn Of Justice wrote:PW, are you scum?
why is it the only time I have ever seen scum say "yes!" to this question it was when I asked my scummate?
like I ask this question all of the time when I wanna be lazy and dumb
@ fa - center around scourge if we are not around and you are town
@ scourge - cld you plz look after fa a bit? I am not as sure that she is town as kagami is but I can be patient. she is an emotional player like me! and pple tend to try to take advantage of that.
also what do you think of turtle pple
when you say lazy and dumb, do you mean like in general, or is it when you're a particular alignment?
i think Turtles is being pretty logical and consistent with their arguments. i've had to read their posts a few times in order to try and get what they were saying though. i feel like there might be some miscommunication going on. i'm trying not to speak to either of them (the other one being Phoenix) because i wanna see where this goes.
and as for FA, if i'm interpreting what you're asking correctly then i probably can, yeah. i mean, it's really up to her what she wants to do... so, i'll give a proper answer when i see what she thinks. if you're asking me this, are you townreading me? is this a completely non-game related thing? (sorry, i've never been asked this in a mafia game before..)
preview: so far Tails shares a lot of opinions with me. besides the trolling thing i guess, haha.
and Phoenix, i've played two newbie games on this site (that's only completed stuff) and have been playing mafia for a few years on other forum sites.All hail the king, baby.
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In post 168, Turtles of Despair wrote:In post 166, Phoenix Wright wrote:*one
UNVOTE:
Yea I was getting inexperienced vibes but I thought you where an alt.
If you have only played 1 other game of mafia you are towny af because of your confidence.
~Bee
I have like 3-4 months of experience after you take away my break periods
i like this post!
In post 169, Yarrrrgami wrote:In post 167, A Real Scourge wrote:
when you say lazy and dumb, do you mean like in general, or is it when you're a particular alignment?
i think Turtles is being pretty logical and consistent with their arguments. i've had to read their posts a few times in order to try and get what they were saying though. i feel like there might be some miscommunication going on. i'm trying not to speak to either of them (the other one being Phoenix) because i wanna see where this goes.
and as for FA, if i'm interpreting what you're asking correctly then i probably can, yeah. i mean, it's really up to her what she wants to do... so, i'll give a proper answer when i see what she thinks. if you're asking me this, are you townreading me? is this a completely non-game related thing? (sorry, i've never been asked this in a mafia game before..)
preview: so far Tails shares a lot of opinions with me. besides the trolling thing i guess, haha.
and Phoenix, i've played two newbie games on this site (that's only completed stuff) and have been playing mafia for a few years on other forum sites.
1. it is non-alignment indicative for me to ask that. we are town tho.
2. okay
3. yes i am townreading you
4. wat other sites
1. cool. are you taking Barn's use of the question (twice) as alignment indicative?
4. no dedicated mafia sites. i heard about mafia as like, a party game, and i often played it on the side on large roleplaying sites. very different from mafiascum's (and i'm assuming other dedicated sites) in style. oh, and also a few times on playdiplomacy, i guess.All hail the king, baby.
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um.. you've asked again so you've probably noticed that i've been avoiding the question. like.. i'd really rather not tell you the names of sites i roleplayed on. i'm sorry, can we move on? if you want to meta me, my style on mafiascum is, like, radically different than anything i've really done before, so only my games on here will really help you!All hail the king, baby.
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In post 175, Yarrrrgami wrote:In post 174, A Real Scourge wrote:um.. you've asked again so you've probably noticed that i've been avoiding the question. like.. i'd really rather not tell you the names of sites i roleplayed on. i'm sorry, can we move on? if you want to meta me, my style on mafiascum is, like, radically different than anything i've really done before, so only my games on here will really help you!
um...I wld love for you to answer the question unless you have something to hide. that is why I asked it again cos I wld like to be sure about you cos rn you are being cagey as fuck about something that really shldn't matter if you are telling the truth.
In post 176, Tails wrote:Why does it matter where she's played?
yeah, why does it matter? like.. i'm trying to be nice about it but i don't see how any of that is your business... i'm kind of getting freaked out.All hail the king, baby.
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yeah, that post was weird to me as well, Sonic! or Rat, if you prefer. it kind of looked like.. a joke? i'm not sure. hopefully it's explained.
i've liked what Rat has posted so far, Kagami. i'd also like for you to explain the scumread on him.
Nick, one head of the Turtles hydra unvoted you because they thought you were town, and i think the other one just got into the game and didn't like your slot from what they read. not an inconsistency, but more like the two heads not agreeing. it's kinda difficult to examine them cause of that, but they sign their posts so that's a plus.All hail the king, baby.
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In post 307, Yarrrrgami wrote:Har! Then let's just not send anyone down the plank. That's clearly the best solution.
So if we could be feeding three pirates to the sharks, ye'd all be saying that it's a bad idea? Same for 4 or 5?
Killin' by non-scurvy hands is good and should be done as frequently as possible. Now, it be reasonable to wait for Day 2, only because o' the evens problem, as the sad-turtle pirate was sayin', but if we could be doubly shark feedin' every day, we'd be doubly feedin' them every day.
Ha! Then let's just not lynch anyone. That's the best solution.
So if we could be lynching 3 people at once, you'd say that's a bad idea? Same for 4 or 5?
Town-directed kills are good and should be done as frequently as possible. Now, its reasonable to wait for day 2, because of the evens problem (basically since we can only do it once it's better to do it when we have flips), but if we could double lynch every day, it would be optimal to double lynch every day.All hail the king, baby.
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In post 317, Turtles of Despair wrote:I also can only vote ONE person once or twice so we cannot get a double hammer :C
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so there's no evens problem, you simply can't do it at all? alright.All hail the king, baby.
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In post 318, Not_Mafia wrote:I think we should double hammer today
this post makes me laugh because the post where Turtles said he can't do it is RIGHT above it.All hail the king, baby.
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@Kagami, you asked what posts of Sonic's i've liked:In post 101, Radical Rat wrote:[some quotes from me speaking to Phoenix in a friendly way, snipped]
Well, looking back a bit closely, it's really just a couple posts that gave me that impression. And they were fairly early on.
Guess that's a risk that comes with reading four pages in one sitting.
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Sonic made a judgement about me, saying that i was riding Nick's coattails, in the post where he voted me. then he quotes some early game stuff where i agreed with Nick on non-game related things, and then jokingly said i didn't want to vote him because i'm a fan of the character.
it was kind of a silly reason for a vote and i'm glad he cleared it up, and admitted that it was more of an error on his part, without much prodding. all Tails did was ask him to explain, and when he ISOd me, presumably to do just that, he changed his mind.
now, i'm aware that this could also come from scum, where Sonic just needed a vote and then, when asked to explain it, came up with nothing and needed to change, but i like the way he went about it.
it reminds me, though.
Tails: you're the one who asked Sonic to explain. how do you feel about his unvote after not finding much of a case?
In post 147, Radical Rat wrote:VOTE: Barn
Here's what I see. Barn shows up and makes a post which appears to be designed to rub people the wrong way, and even attack a few people on a personal level, primarily Tails.
Suddenly, everyone's arguing and OMGUSing and getting nowhere. Precisely what scum wants, no?
i like this post cause 1) i agree with the vote
2) Sonic is trying to get other people to vote Barn here, which suggests he's trying to get something done, instead of justlookinglike he wants to get something done.
In post 284, Radical Rat wrote:In post 189, Yarrrrgami wrote:There be lots o' hedghog-like pirates on this voyage, so I'll be more clear:
VOTE: Rat who be thinkin' he's radical because the scurvy 'as settled deep in his brains
May I ask why? If it's the inactivity, that's because this level of activity is unprecedented in my severely limited experience( Two Newbie games here, and one Newbie one Theme on SmashBoards )
i also wanna know why, Kagami. i don't really see a scum agenda here. your turn, why's he scum?All hail the king, baby.
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sonic, massclaiming just our characters won't help because moderators usually give fake claims. so scum players are the 'evil' characters (an oversimplification, but yeah!), but they probably have good characters they can pretend to be.
and the other reason we can't massclaim our characters is because it gives hints to powers. like.. Professor Agasa would likely be an inventor, there are a lot of cop characters and detectives and those are all people we don't want getting murdered, yeah?
also i'm not caught up, sorry!All hail the king, baby.
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In post 516, Garmr wrote:In post 514, A Real Scourge wrote:i literally just explained the harm, Garmr!
You are not seeing what I am seeing anyway it's just me and turtle we blew our powers and even then the mods won't give them the same names as us for a fakeclaim.
was talking about a massclaim, not you two giving your flavour names. and i don't think i said there would be fake claims counterclaiming town claims...? thats not how fake claims work after all.
In post 530, Yarrrrgami wrote:@ scourge
can you give me a readslist plz?
cos I can't tell by your iso where your reads line up with tails except where you said they did in post 167.
ya sure. i haven't been very transparent about my reads. just a sec.All hail the king, baby.
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In post 515, Radical Rat wrote:Alright then. Sorry to waste thread space with that, but now that I understand how it all works, I can work with it.
don't apologize, it was an honest question.
sonic this answer totally makes me wanna hydra with you, BTW. and yes im half asking because of our account gimmicks, but still.All hail the king, baby.
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okay so, i checked up on Tails and i don't think our reads line up so much as our opinions do. the reason i said what i did in 167 is because in 164 Tails said he wanted to see how Turtles vs Phoenix played out for determining their alignments. it was the exact thing i was doing at the time, and i remember liking Tails's posts earlier so it prompted that.
i think Tails is scumreading Phoenix so we do disagree there.
anyways
Barn of Justice: scum, 103 is bad, their 'pw are you scum, are yousureyou're not scum' thing was bad, i basically haven't liked anything they've posted. unrelated, but i also don't like their attitude ;P
Firebringer: nullish townish. actually i wanna ask him more questions, i'm having a bit of trouble telling what his stances are. it would help if i knew if he were joking or not about the mass flavour claim... it's hard to tell what posts are jokes and what aren't.
Frozen Angel: town!
Garmr: scum? i was trying to avoid the 1v1 thing he had going cause i'm bad at reading them i think, but his recent posts i really don't like. on reread, i really don't like 491. he's like 'sonic seems to be certain i'm town', quoting where sonic says he's certain garmr is town for stopping the lynch. the thing about barn's flip is bad since garmr himself stopped it and everyoneshouldbe looking at barn's flip. but like ALSO his accidental peacemake looked super genuine, like he really thought phoenix had gotten hammered? i guess he could be a scum peacemaker, whatever utilitythathas.
KainTepes: ??????? this appears to be his meta and i still can't tell if he's playing a character or trolling or something. and yet my gut says he's town... idk, do what you want.
Not_Mafia: booooo i don't know why he stopped doing things and just decided to troll the rest of the game out. null, but would lynch.
Phoenix: town. see barn vote, then unvote when KainTepes joined and subsequent vote on KainTepes. i feel it. kinda moved me up from nullish town to town. but phoenix i think your 488 is wrong, it looks like he's agreeing with you and changing his read because of it. you basically did the same thing when you unvoted Barn after Kain voted him. eh maybe null after all, i'll see how Nick responds.
Radical Rat: i'm totally emotionally compromised on this one. he's so polite. sonic what do you mean by 487? any lynch that happens naturally has information, and why do you need to know why Phoenix wants him dead if you agree he looks suspicious? holding off on a read here.
Soren: ehh, i don't like 37. and besides that he hasn't really done much besides the early argument with Garmr. nullscum. waiting for him to get back into the game.
Tails: town! gut says he's suspicious but i'm dismissing it as paranoia because i don't really have any issue with him.
Turtles of Despair: i guess they can be town. they're playing their role like i would as town. i remember not liking them earlier but i like them now.
Yarrgami: their play is pro-town, but reading Kagami's posts for alignment indicative stuff kinda feels like trying to read a mafia robot for alignment. like they play in a 'pro-town' and optimal manner that i agree with and their questions are well-timed, but i have no idea what their intent is because of the way they post. reading mollie, though, i'd call them town. even if i was unsure, i definitely don't want them lynched today.
i didn't like 'seduction-furry pirate' at first but it's kind of growing on me.
preview: i hope not, i don't remember Barn claiming. but i don't think it is.All hail the king, baby.
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can we talk about Soren's hammering Barn without a claim? we would have unvoted if he'd claimed CONAN the ROLECOP. :/
they might've thought that they wouldn't be able to mislynch garmr after he confirmed himself as a peacemaker? (and Barn wasn't scum, so nobody could say Garmr was stopping a lynch against scum)
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In post 571, Soren wrote:
If he flipped vanilla townie would you have the same view on me right now?In post 569, A Real Scourge wrote:can we talk about Soren's hammering Barn without a claim? we would have unvoted if he'd claimed CONAN the ROLECOP. :/
Because his role has nothing to do with how he played in the game.
i probably wouldn't be as annoyed about it, i would still be on your case about hammering without a claim.
that's just proper course, it doesn't matter what their play is like, you ask for a claim before hammering. why didn't you? i made my intent to hammer very clear so that Barn would know he needed to claim, but you decided to hammer anyways, before Barn even got back.All hail the king, baby.
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In post 570, Turtles of Despair wrote:In post 568, Yarrrrgami wrote:There appears to be one o' them deckhands who be preventing other hands from doing their jobs proper-like.
Why would you just claim all that info?
claiming that you've been roleblocked is the easiest way to get roleblocked again. either way, i don't think we should press this right now.All hail the king, baby.
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In post 554, A Real Scourge wrote:deep sigh. whatever happened to getting claims...? (this is to Soren, Kain was already voting him. very enthusiastically)
i posted this before he flipped. so yeah.All hail the king, baby.
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isn't he, though? it says his account was made like two weeks ago...
and if it's that obvious, why'd you pretend to hide it?
but anyways, yarrrgami, i get that you're 'doing a thing'. i just don't really understand it.
oh and Phoenix, about your 578, while i like that you're looking at the nightkill (cause it DOES usually indicate something, even if it's hard to read) i don't think scum would do something so obvious as to nightkill someone because they happened to scumread one of the scumteam. if radical rat scum was going to kill anyone, shouldn't it have been yarrrgami?
579: Sonic i don't like how you're talking about the garmr kill here. you say we shouldn't read into it, but also that you have a good idea as to why garmr was killed.
pedit: eh, i guess you're selectively giving out info for whatever reason. i don't really like it but i don't know what's going on in there, so eh?
but, Phoenix is experienced? is he an alt or something?All hail the king, baby.
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Sonic, you don't know who yarrgami is in a neighbourhood with, so what do you wanna get out of that question? what will you do based on yarrgami's answer? (IF she answers, and i think it's likely she won't)
it's a question where i can't really see the benefit for town knowing the answer.
preview: Kagami, 'Nick' is just short for Phoenix. sorry for the confusion! i can do nicknames too. Nick is the character's nickname in the Ace Attorney games. did you think i knew him or something? i'm p sure he's a new player.
ah, i got ninja'd! but now i see why you were saying that, Kagami. coolio.
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In post 605, Phoenix Wright wrote:P-edit: you said that the obvious choice for them to kill is Yarrgami. That's exactly why they wouldn't do it. Its too obvious. And I'm not an alt
mmm, fair enough. i think Sonic is right about the kill being because garmr would be difficult tyo lynch, though! whether that's because Sonic's reasoning is correct, or if it was because he was paying attention to nightkill targets... i'm not sure yet.All hail the king, baby.
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In post 606, Radical Rat wrote:In post 602, A Real Scourge wrote:
579: Sonic i don't like how you're talking about the garmr kill here. you say we shouldn't read into it, but also that you have a good idea as to why garmr was killed.
What I meant by that was, it doesn't make sense to be drawing accusation connections when it's much more likely Garmr's death was simply because he was made unlynchable.
Ockham's Razor, y'know?
well, see, i get that (and in my last post, i agree with you) it's just that Nick was accusing you after reading into it, and then you told him not to do that. it.. doesn't really sound good, what i'm trying to say, when i put it into words? it just rubbed me the wrong way.
i just want to hear from Soren. i know town makes bad hammers but his response to me saying something about it was snippy. (the whole 'you wouldn't be saying that if he'd flipped vanilla town' thing).
Nick didn't you say yesterday that there was a t least one scum in Soren/garmr? i would've thought you'd be jumping on Soren today. (unless you did and just changed to Sonic after? i don't remember)All hail the king, baby.
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In post 613, Radical Rat wrote:Foiled again. I'm the Mafia Punisher. Game's over folks.
Back to business.... If they think this phantom RBer is Scum, we might want to be seeking connections between accusations and blocks. If it's more likely the RBer is Town though, we should likely drop the subject altogether and keep them anonymous to do their work.
even in the former case, 'seeking connections' is something that'd be more fruitful if we did it later in the game. and yarrgami is the only one who can make an accurate judgement on which way the cookie crumbled, so i think we should drop it either way.
but, she brought it up, so obviously she wants to talk about it? idk.All hail the king, baby.
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In post 617, Yarrrrgami wrote:Armor-pirate kill makes a lot of sense if rat be scum. There also is some utility if sad-turtle pirate were scum since armor-pirate could have been lying about having only one use of his deckhand power, which would interfere with a quick-shark-feedin'.
I continue to be suspicious about furry-seduction pirate, but we were the only pirates to be voicing suspicion in their direction, so it's hard to imagine they would choose to kill elsewhere. Bein' ascared of protectin' type deckhands is possible, but it seems to me like armor-pirate was reasonably likely to get protection too.
garmr kill makes sense with sonic scum because of what Nick said?
and your last paragraph is.. you're saying that you were the only one who was suspicious of me, so it's.. unlikely that i would choose to kill you? i can't tell if you're saying that the nightkill would make sense if i'm scum, or if it wouldn't. i don't even think it's the pirate talk, i just feel like you maybe made a typo.
and Sonic, i get that. from your pov Nick's theory was obviously wrong. i get that what's bothering me doesn't really make sense.
Kagami do you think that Soren's hammer should be talked about? he, at least, should have known better. i made it clear i was waiting on a claim, then he comes in with his defense (ISO is empty) and then hammers, and it obviously wasn't an accident from his posts during this Day.All hail the king, baby.
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oh hey i forgot about you
VOTE: Not_Mafia
and Kagami: well yeah, so did i, but we still had time. and now that i know he's town i'm not very pleased with him about doing that, but still.
and thanks for the clarification on that other post. i thought that was maybe what you were saying, but i wasn't sure what your conclusions on the matter were.All hail the king, baby.
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no, it was definitely soren who hammered. right?
Soren, you don't even acknowledge that what you did was wrong! you just defend it! a player getting run up to L-1 ALWAYS looks like scum.. that's why they're there. you always get a claim.
VOTE: Soren
With 11 players alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.
and Kaiin, yeah it's true that town hammers without a claim.. but Soren's defense of it has just been 'he looked like scum' over and over, while not responding to what i've actually been saying or saying why lynching him without a claim was a good option.All hail the king, baby.
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right, you weren't yelling. in my defense you guys have literally the exact same avatar. can you contribute something useful now?
Yarrrgami, i really don't like Not_Mafia and Sonic is giving me some weird vibes.
i'm kinda more suspicious of FA then i was yesterday, but it's still a townread. Phoenix is town, and Kain could honestly go either way, i have absolutely no idea. everything else is the same as what i've said.
i have my eye on you as well, i think you'll be the most difficult for me to read because your play is really pro-town. also i want to know how you feel about Soren after his post and the bunch of votes on him. (they all happened in a row, which is a bit sus, but they were all in response to the same post of Soren's so it's hard to tell. i've had wagons build on me for one post.All hail the king, baby.
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