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In post 46, pisskop wrote:idk who coolhead is, so you take a stab at who is afraid of me.
Why so fighty, Pisskop?
Why should we be afraid?
Also, 'b' is bellaphant, 'bbt' is, um, bbt, who will either sign or not.
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Take that vote as respect for your scum game. I'll be keeping a very close eye on you.
In post 55, Aiden Stark wrote:Bella, I think your slot is scum.
Let's talk about this.
In post 107, Performer wrote:So far their ISO is weird to me. They even asked others to get with them to lynch pk
Why is their ISO weird?
In post 116, pisskop wrote:its scum fire. look how defensive and weak it is
I don't know who this post is to/about?
In post 122, Antihero wrote:hm.... 5 pages i thought i would have more... or at least something... to say
i really dont
I don't like this entrance from Anti at all.
I wondered how this game was 9 pages already and then I remembered PK is in it.
Prepping myself for a 40 page D1.-
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In post 133, Aiden Stark wrote:
Join us on the Davsto wagon, then?
UNVOTE: DO NOT TALK TO US
VOTE: Davsto
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I don't get it? Why did you not vote Anti when you said you were scum reading him? Can you also sort out the public hydra dissonance or I'll lynch you. Thanks.
I hate this vote and would PL Davsto.
I don't get this read Anti? Help me out?-
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Nobody is forcing you to stay on the defensive. You make your own choices.
Why?
In post 182, Aiden Stark wrote:
Okay, this is an interest reaction to my scumread.
Which in all honesty, was a complete reaction test.
Anti......you are awfully defensive this early. What gives?
Fir, I'm assuming you have played with Anti before? Can you tell me what you was expecting from your reaction test? Can you tell me why Anti being defensive is scummy?
Why don't you like Davsto's self-vote?
In post 185, pisskop wrote:Noes. I was actually nullscum reading marque for the earlier dave poke[/quote
Why?
In post 195, pisskop wrote:I dislike players who get goofy and self-vote and encourage their own wagons though
Really? Says the guy who once self-hammered as Town Doctor. Fantastic.-
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40 pages is far too much and is actually detrimental to town to make D1 go on any longer than it has to. Ideally, once we get around page 20 we should be looking to consolidate and lynch someone.
I don't know why you're asking this? You already know full well why I didn't like it Anti.
In post 209, Aiden Stark wrote:
WE WILL HYDRA DISONNANCE ALL GAME LONG AND YOU CANT DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT!
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I promise you I'll lynch you.-
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Can we not make me replace out of a game with an ace playerlist? Ta. Just don't.
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Waiting for bbt to come chat with me. The unicorns are prolly town.-
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OK, but you ARE good at this game. So, when you read 5 pages and come up COMPLETELY EMPTY, like not a single thing to say, what do you want me to think Anti?
In post 242, DO NOT TALK TO US wrote:Actually, I think at least one other person finds that weird as fuck...
pisskop clearly doesn't think it's possible for people to have a reason for wanting to keep a vote on someone other than finding that person to be the scummiest.In post 79, pisskop wrote:you must not be scumreading me since youre using an RVS vote still.
So no, fire, you are not the only one who finds it weird as fuck that town!pisskop wouldn't be voting you in that situation. pisskop finds it just as weird as you do~
I like this post and would appreciate PK responding to it if he hasn't done so already.
Pee?
In post 270, Fate wrote:pisskob is town
How so?
In post 271, Fate wrote:"haha that self-vote for reactions was great right?" is an easy way to try and diffuse a wagon on yourself.
He overreacted to the few votes on himself to blow it out of proportion and is now trying to take the wind out of the sails by going in the opposite direction. The timing of it was such that he seemed nervous about how serious the wagon actually was. (notice he langauge when he self-voted-RVS wagon-to try and depict it as such and direct the course of it. He's now trying to deflate it and remain in control)
The Marquis vote is awful. What does that have to do with the reactions you were looking for supposedly?
This isn't a bad post at all actually. Especially the bolded.-
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In post 276, Fate wrote:yeah this is what I get when I try to explain gut reads with reasons.
Let's me just backpeddle to that time when I was voting you for [reasons] that were unknown to all.
If You Got Scholed is your scumbuddy this is a bit too easy though.
Well getting lynches through will be hard part this game since I don't seem to have charisma with this new crowd
Well, this is weird. I thought you had some decent points (some that Davsto didn't respond to very well and your back off of him is very strange indeed. What gives?
In post 279, Antihero wrote:why did you vote fate?
Because his jump on Davsto was bad.
In post 292, Antihero wrote:no one has wished me a happy scumday and now i am very sad
Hey, it wasn't showing any cake! Happy Scumday Anti!
PEdit - I want you to respond to their accusation PK, not try to hand wave it away.-
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In post 311, Performer wrote:@YGS DNTTU's ISO was weird the first 8 posts were just fluff. Recently that slot's grown better .
OK, but a lot of people were fluff posting so why DNTTU out of everyone else?-
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In post 363, pisskop wrote:Okay. So it didnt help you determine their alignment. So you liked it the same way some people like fairies?
Correct. I guess?
I liked it in the way that 'Ohhh, that's a good question but it's a question that town or scum could ask and therefore does not help me read them. But it is still a good question that I would like to see answered' kind of way.-
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In post 372, pisskop wrote:
They are equatable. Voting randomly when you claim to have a scumread and not voting your current largest scumread but still voting a scumread are different.
I don't see why you would not vote your largest scum read at this point of the game.
It's absurd that you're suggesting that I can only have 3 scum reads because it's likely we have 3 scum players. If it comforts you at all, Kahlan and Marquis are policy lynches that I believe have a good chance of hitting scum.
I forgot to add PH to that pool. So, now I have half the game on my lynch list. Now what?
I guess that happens when you self-vote, huh?-
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In post 391, Fate wrote:
You got Schooled posts' are just awful.
Davsto Fate Marquis scum reads?
You've got to be kidding
Unvote:
Vote: You Got Schooled
Gonna expand on your problem? Are you town reading Davsto and Marquis? If so, can you explain why?
I have no idea what your problem is here Anti?
In post 408, Performer wrote:Just did another ISO of Davsto. Looking at the joking posts and the vote counts, it doesn't cause me to think this is town Davsto. Staying with my vote at the moment.
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In post 428, Fate wrote:In hindsight I may have backed down too easily,but that aside, what do you make of YGSchooled saying my vote on Davsto was bad, then agreeing with my reasons, then voting Davsto while thinking Im scum as well?
Basically what is your read on that slot? You haven't mentioned them once besides this "interaction" of quoting their post
Well, we can't just put that to the side can we? That's a pretty big 'What the fuck just happened' moment that needs looking at.
It's looking like it's going to be difficult to get wagons going this game. Haven't had a serious wagon yet and we're nearing page 20.
If you're town, you should be embarrassed. On another note, Performer is posting a lot of words that don't do anything for me and I'm becoming even happier about lynching him.
So, yeah. I have like 6 people I will lynch with 3 very much preferred options. Can we get a wagon going somewhere please?-
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In post 452, Antihero wrote:
well we can start w/ the obvious.
why do you think fate's vote was bad if you think davsto's scum?
I agree it is obvious.
Fate's vote was bad regardless of Davsto's alignment.-
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I mean, sure, you can attack that ONE post for not creating wagons or not progressing the game but that doesn't mean all of my other posts are lacking in this area so...I don't know what you're trying to do there. Well, I do, but I need other people to see it too.
Time doesn't matter. We already have 20 pages. A repeat of these 20 pages would be 40 pages with barely anyone contributing solid posting to the game so I'd much rather we didn't get another week of this.
We really should have had a good L-1 wagon with a claim/intent to lynch by now and that isn't even close to happening. I'm making sure people are aware that if they're town they're playing like shit and need to step the fuck up because this game-state is almost perfect for scum.-
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In post 465, Fate wrote:
His alignment and the rest of the game state matter a whole lot. In your fantasy Fate+Davsto scumteam world, does it make sense for me to vote him in that manner?
His alignment doesn't matter in relation to your vote.
Yeah, it does. You gave no reasoning for joining the wagon so have an easy hop off whenever you need it.
Would be a vote for distancing purposes later in the game if you're both scum.
In post 469, Antihero wrote:fine if youre going to be so dense and hostile and opaque for no apparent reason
VOTE: ygs
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Just gonna leave this here for you Anti.-
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Anti, I think 'it tells me nothing' is the point: fate made a crappy unexplained vote, then backed it up with a fairly decent set of points about the self votes, then moves off dav because he's 'reasonable'. It's a bad vote not necessarily for for it's for, it's a crappy vote for page 7/not rvs.
Or that's my take on it. His later actions have been even weirder. Come chat to me, hostile and opaque is bbt's area
@Dav, you disagreed with our list of lynchable players - I've found 'lynch below this line' lists ever so useful before. I'm not seeing many reads from you: you are iffy on marquis and us, don't think fate is scummy, leaning town on aiden (pretty uncontroversial read at this point). Is that right? If so, why? What's your lynch line looking like at this point? Thoughts on performer?
@Aiden, lemme know when fire's around?
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In post 428, Fate wrote:In hindsight I may have backed down too easily
Right here.-
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OK, well for me that whole back and forth with Fate and Davsto was very show offy/scum theatre like. Here is how it went;
Like, Fate presents what I believe was a half decent case against Davsto. Davsto responds in an unsatisfactory way IMO, Fate retracts his entire case and backs off. Davsto then doesn't push Fate for presenting a bad case, and then Fate calls Davsto out for not pushing him after presenting such a bad case.
Immediately after, Fate says that Davsto is 'too reasonable to kill' (strange choice of word) and then Davsto says he thinks Fate is probably town for just accepting his case was bad (even though it wasn't).
Big song and dance but they both end up just lightly town reading each other?
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Sure.
Honestly, I think you are town, because of your frustration. I'm feeling it too, but for different reasons: no-one's really making a decent push anywhere.
I had an initial gut town read on dnttu, and after chatting to bbt I think I was reading pisskop's arseyness as more scummy than it was. Tier's made some not quite logical points, but I can kinda see a progression in them I think is townie. Plus, his nudge to us about performer voting was actually pretty ++
Performer's posts have made me cringe, tbh. He seems to think a bunch of this playerlist has knowledge about him, though, including you: what've your experiences been?
I can't read fb, but the slot has actually but pressure on people, which can only be a good thing. Kahlan and pro I have literally 0 feelings about
Does that help?
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In post 448, Kahlan wrote:
@performer, you got schooled, Antihero why do you guys still feel like Davsto is scum? I really didn't get that vibe when I was reading his post. I however haven't played with him before and the self vote he did before might have been motivated by him being scum and wanting to appear town but I'm not sure. Does he have a lot of scum signs that I'm missing?
I have explained why I feel Davsto could be scum.
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@Fate, how's performer looking for 'fake reads': nothing in that latest set of posting rings true,
Also, I posted a newer readslist and engaged with anti: are you going to discuss anything new with us?
@Performer, my issues can be summed up like:
The weird misunderstanding with pisskop about brandi. Protesting too much?
107 this vote doesn't make sense.
108 lamisting. You also did this in 104 and a bit in 413 You later come back to 'omg, stop softing prssssssss' - you know the way to not bring attention to this? It isn't mentioning it
Bad responses to pressure: 'I didn't kept track on the 1st 5 about who I was voting' 206
You then have a run of posts where you quote a lot, ask a tonne of questions and don't always follow up: looking like 'busywork'
An inconsistent thought process on our slot.
A weird response to anti - as he said, you seem to share a bunch of reads....
Pisskop, I don't wanna vote aiden, I have issues with reading fb, especially on day 1, but I'm not seeing a massive scumminess from them?
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In post 526, Antihero wrote:In post 502, You Got Schooled wrote:I think it's more the fact he's reacting to things: his point about how we should've been able to read his mind about his post/vote and were scummy for not doing it was ridiculous, but town-ridiculous. Talk to me more about alarms?
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ok see kagami isn't ridiculous though
i think of her as reasonable and competent as town and i'm concerned that things feel so awkward w/ her
i missed this.
I dunno, I do see ridiculous coming from town than scum - town aren't worried about looking logical, wheras scum narrative is a thing. You have more experience, but it's not a slot we're interested in pushing today.
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OK, so I reread the interaction I didn't like between Davsto and Fate and I have come to a different conclusion.
I think the case Fate presented originally wasn't great. The reason I liked it though was because of the point about Davsto making sure everyone knew his wagon was RVS - like he was trying to diffuse any potential push that might happen. Funnily enough, this is the only point that Davsto didn't respond to and Fate didn't chase it up.
After reviewing, it seems more likely that scum!Fate presented a bad case on town!Davsto and didn't want to continue pushing it after Davsto's repsonse. Could they still both be scum? Sure. Especially with Davsto doing zilch in terms of actual scum hunting (has anyone shown an ounce of this from Davsto yet?) If not, then you need to reevaluate your read on him.
I don't get the townreads on either Fate or Davsto but I seem to be the only one who isn't town reading them so, I don't know. Feel like I'm just wasting my time.-
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In post 600, Aiden Stark wrote:In post 595, You Got Schooled wrote:Pisskop, I don't wanna vote aiden, I have issues with reading fb, especially on day 1, but I'm not seeing a massive scumminess from them?
Bella, you should know I am as conf town as I can get at this point without being a innocent child yo.
Why you reading Pisskop as town?
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hiii,
Like I said, you are asking people questions so you aren't in my lynch pile right now, but I'm not firming up a solid4eva town read on you just yet.
Pisskop, while being a bit arsey and initially looking scummy (I have a horrible tendency to read dickishness as scumminess ) has actually asked some fairly decent questions and prodded at a few different people: he got a good question or two in early on peformer, for example. His vote on you is bad, though, and the fact it's a rehash of his rvs is odd, but not scummy.
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(also, voting kahlan is boring. Go vote for people with content.)
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