Mini 1802: Paint Mafia Sequel - Game Over!

[Ranger]

A reminder to have fun and also to request things for Ether to draw!

Request: Cast of Paint Mafia 1 giving a send-off to the new players.

{pie, UpTooLate}
{Nahdia}
{Spiffeh, hiplop}
{ducks, Aristophanes, Bellaphant}
{Nina}

[Ranger]

Only scum Ranger would forget me on her readlist.

I read your post as a pie post, and was under the impression you had yet to post as a result.

And you don't want to lynch me. I will be confirmed town at some point in the game later than D1. As in, mod-confirmed, 100%, only if this were a bastard game could I be scum, mod confirmed.

{UpTooLate, beeboy}
{Nahdia, pie}
{Spiffeh, hiplop}
{ducks, Aristophanes, Bellaphant}
{Nina}

[Ranger]

VOTE: Aristophanes.

[Ranger]

Why did you feel the need to claim that

Well.
If you want to lynch me, I'd need to claim it to stop the lynch.
If you didn't decide to lynch me...you'd still find it out anyway.
Regardless, this is information you would learn no matter what.
In short, because I'm going to be confirmed town anyway, the timing of when I claim isn't too critical. My lifespan this game was never going to be long.

[Ranger]

Blah. I need to do a read reset. Hold please. (But actually, don't hold, keep going.)

If she seriously claims she is going to be mod confirmed later today she is going to sort herself it is that simple and specing her alignment is irrelevant as a result.

I said I'd be mod confirmed at some time

after

D1. Not on D1.

[Ranger]

No offense to you two, but I <3 hiplop and beeboy enough that I wish they were still in. :(

[Ranger]

Eh if I'm fully honest here.
VOTE: pie.
I don't think pie's scum.
I just think that pie would be the best player in this list to be confirmed town.

[Ranger]

It's not a matter of lynching.

It's a matter of who we want confirmed town.

And pie is a player I very much would want to be confirmed town.

[Ranger]

If we're going to assume that the flip's accurate, I'd much rather have confscum that we can lynch d1 than conftown who will probably just die in the night.

You're forgetting: I'm going to be confirmed town, so sooner or later, scum are going to want me dead.
I believe it was Nahdia who said she would

also

be confirmed town, so sooner or later, scum are going to want her dead.
Getting a

third

town player, especially of pie's caliber, as confirmed town on D1 would mean scum have basically their three next nightkills forced upon them, because confirmed town players are too much of a threat for them to deal with.
Also, I don't hold the same confidence in pie being town as everyone else seems to, which gives me a DARN good reason to want a pie reveal.

[Ranger]

Full disclosure, I'm still disengaged with the game.
But I want to lynch TehBrawlGuy.
Not flip.
Lynch.

I want pie flipped. If scum, then good. If town, even better.

[Ranger]

like, hey guys, I'm gonna be mod-confirmed as town at some point in this game too. but you don't have to take my word for it. please, read me.

^I read this as a softclaim.

[Ranger]

Why are you using aggression on me to ignore what I've posted on Nina, who was supposedly among your scumreads earlier?

I got disconnected from my reads.

I reset them.

Of them, you're one of my bottom three in the new tiers.
This is mostly being kept in my head, so I don't have an exact order worked out.

[Ranger]

And by the way.
I still say the D1 flip should be on a player who holds charisma.
Normally I'd include myself in that list if not for the slight issue of me being conftown later in the game.
Of the players currently in the game, I would say the ones with charisma are {Katsuki, pie, Spiffeh}.
Having one of them have their alignment confirmed, be it town or scum, on D1 would be

immensely

helpful, because, again, it cannot (presumably) be interfered with.
Flipping other players on D1 is a waste in my opinion.

[Ranger]

Ranger, confing somebody like that just makes them a NK target doesn't it?

We already have one: me.

I'd rather have someone I consider at least as threatening as I am confirmed.

And no offense to the nine players I didn't mention, but when weighing a combination of town game

plus

scum game, there's three players, and only three, that I know to be very strong as both alignments, outside of myself. (Well, me being good as scum is debatable, but that's beside the point.) Those players are Katsuki, pie, and Spiffeh. beeboy would have been included had he not replaced out.

[Ranger]

either way ranger's the only one who wants to flip pie with the main intention of confirming her as town

I didn't say town.

[Ranger]

Spiffeh [3] - Bellaphant,

pieguyn

, itlepip
UpTooLate [1] - Aristophanes
Nina Williams [7] -

TehBrawlGuy

, Nahdia,

UpTooLate

, Spiffeh, lalaladucks, Katsuki, Dwlee99

^This is what I'm mostly looking at right now, by the way.

It's just a guess; I do need to get back in the game.

But...

VOTE: TehBrawlGuy.
For now.

[Ranger]

Ranger if you are gambiting say it now because you are not living d2 if you say it then

This is not a gambit.
I will be confirmed town.

[Ranger]

MOD: V/LA for today, maybe tomorrow.

Don't have the time to post today, probably will have the time tomorrow but may not, circumstances depending.

[Ranger]

Ranger hasn't done anything towny but they said they are confirmed tomorrow so idgaf.

I did not specify this. I said I would be confirmed town at a time after D1. I did not give a time frame. I should also not be required to give one, for hopefully obvious reasons. It'll be obvious when it happens.

{Nina}
{Nahdia}
{Katsuki}
{Bellaphant}
{Dwlee, Aristophanes, Spiffeh}
{itlepip}
{laladucks}
{TehBrawlGuy}
{UpTooLate}
{pie}

[Ranger]

FTR, i'm actually regretting not going with Ranger's plan (sorry Ranger =/).

You shouldn't need to apologize for playing to your wincon! <3

But guess why you're so low in the first place on my reads? ;)

[Ranger]

give us an estimated timeframe or eat a lynch.

How about...no.

It will happen when it happens.

It will be very obvious when it happens.

That is all that needs to be said.

If you don't like it, tough. Try pushing a lynch on me. It won't happen, because the town this game is smart enough to know that I would never fakeclaim something like this. So, try me. I dare you to.

You managed to completely dodge the flip phase by that argument, which right now doesn't make any sense to me from TownRanger.

I was never voted in the flip phase. Everyone said, "oh, let's flip X, lynch Ranger". I told them this would be very much a bad idea.

I was also far from dodging responsibility. I was pushing. Hard-pushing. To get a pie flip. I was willing to compromise on another strong player. But a flip happened on someone who was basically a non-entity, who would be of little use going forward. (No offense meant, Nina. I'm just saying that I don't think you are going to nail the scum and that even if you did, you wouldn't have the charisma to lynch them.) That was not my doing.

In your defense, it wasn't yours either. In fact, you voted Spiffeh, who I was willing to compromise on.

a). your conf has to be mod confirmed

It will be. When I say mod-confirmed. I mean, 100%, from the mod, confirmed. It is something that absolutely will not be avoided. It is something that will not be doubted.

Is that seriously why you have a scum read/lean whatever on me? Because I agreed with others that I flipping scum Day 1 would be fantastic as scum haven't had a chance to manipulate anything yet?

Not what I said.

[Ranger]

surprised to see pie that low tbh

You really shouldn't be.

When I said I wanted to see pie flipped.

I wanted to see pie flipped

.
The only reason pie's not my vote now is because of pie's strength as a town player if my scumread is wrong.

[Ranger]

I thought it was a post that you'd make as scum but not a post that you'd make as town.
This means it is slightly more likely than default to be truthful, and therefore slightly more likely than default to mean lala is town.

[Ranger]

I'm asking if (independent of what you think of my alignment) the point I'm making in the post is actually good or not.

Maybe. laladucks is mostly a null read.

[Ranger]

VOTE: Zulfy.

[Ranger]

you're saying you think 555 is more likely to have been written by scumpie, therefore the content of the post is more likely to be pie telling the truth?

In my experience?

Yes.

I, frankly, feel the scum this game are doing a lot of white knighting of town...purely because they can do so safely, since everyone wants to lynch town.

[Ranger]

Zulfy if you didn't replace UTL I would be voting you right now.

Hint: UTL was scum.

[Ranger]

Hi Spiffeh.

Reads, please?

VOTE: Katsuki.
Know how I wanted pie flipped yesterday?
Yeah, if scum have the ability to grant a color-flip, I don't see anyone else they'd use it on. This,

regardless

of whether he's town or scum. If he's scum he'd be painted blue; if he's town he'd be painted red. Katsuki, on the other hand, makes a great flip.

[Ranger]

Mod: V/LA for today, and all Wednesdays in July.

Means no posting from me until tomorrow.

[Ranger]

Literally my entire gameplan yesterday was blindly townreading pieguyn outloud because I wanted them to feel secure. If scum painted anyone on their own team, it's definitely not pie, everyone was loudly townreading her except you. The thing I quoted earlier was literally going to be me saying pieguyn is scumread of mine and I want her color flipped because I think it'll still be reliable.

Fair 'nuff.

VOTE: pie.

what do both of you think about flipping Nahdia? I _really_ don't know if she's town tbh.

Nahdia is my strongest townread, so no. Not flipping her.

[Ranger]

Mod: feeling a bit under the weather

(didn't post yesterday because of it),

so V/LA today, maybe tomorrow

, depending on how long it takes to recover.

Sorry.

[Ranger]

once i flip blue we lynch zulfy yes?

Correct.

[Ranger]

VOTE: Zulfy.

[Ranger]

Also, I sent this by PM a while ago, but APPARENTLY, for some reason, it got missed.

Drawing Request: Aristophanes dementedly laughing madly from the burning depths of hell.

[Ranger]

I have way too many scurmeads. urgh.

I'll help.
Zulfy's scum.
pie's scum.
Everyone else is therefore town.

[Ranger]

I am thoroughly losing the faint sparkle of faith I had that you could have the reads that you have and be town.

Well it's a good thing I'll be conftown then, isn't it?

even discounting everything else, you think I would play D1 the way I did as scum for... what reason?

Is there literally anything from your D1 play that should make me think you're town?

I don't see it.

[Ranger]

My body sucks.

Mod: V/LA yesterday, today, and tomorrow to recover.

I hate feeling this sick every couple of weeks or so, but I can't magically wave a wand and make the sickness go away.

[Ranger]

I'm sorry.
I'm too tired to focus properly, and I DO need to get sleep.
So this game will have to wait until tomorrow.

[Ranger]

I'm taking a break from mafia.
Swear to god, if ONE little time of things going wrong causes me to be unable to keep up with my games

this badly

, this consistently, I'm clearly in no shape to play.
I need to sleep.
This is not a game you can lynch me in, so I can't give you permission to try, but I've had a stressful day and I could barely get this much done.

[Ranger]

I mean.
Not the proudest victory, but.
A win's a win!