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Post Post #206 (isolation #0) » Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:09 pm

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Sorry all did not realized this started forgot that SC does not do day start prompts I am here will catch up
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Post Post #212 (isolation #1) » Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:40 pm

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hmmm grey is giving me good vibes atm not a solid read yet, but kinda feel like he could be town

LOL Don't let snake fool you all, he may be a fairly new player on site, but he has done a lot of reading up on games here, plus he and Inno pulled off a very good win in his 2nd ever newbie game. His immediate appeal to me is also noted for future computation.

Hey Kuribo I was not traumatized :P Mostly just surprised you pulled off that fake claim so easily. And were able to help newbie hydra of scout and foxbird to fake claim so well it fooled people into thinking that I was scum :P It was a very moving performance, especially when you both switched over to Jiffy and lynched him while he was at work. I am keeping an eye on you dude.

My experience with Snarky is he tends to be kind of lurky and has some odd reads and such, but has been town in the games I have been in with him, I am not sure what scum Snarky would look like.
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Post Post #214 (isolation #2) » Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:54 pm

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are you that nervous about how I read you snake? I did not say you were scum, I said for people not to give you slack for being a newbie, because you pull off scum very well.
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Post Post #216 (isolation #3) » Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:59 pm

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then why did you make a deal about it?

Also not fond of you trying to proxy vote either.

But still pegging everyone so will come back to this.
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Post Post #219 (isolation #4) » Tue Sep 27, 2016 1:10 pm

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You forget that I was scum reading you in that game, and actually wanted to lynch you and sort the cross claims out the next day? I should have pushed harder on that, and then I would have sorted out the cross claims the next day.
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Post Post #221 (isolation #5) » Tue Sep 27, 2016 1:13 pm

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LOL I wanted to but the others were a bit stuck though.

Anyways enough about that game I am now trying to peg people in this one.
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Post Post #277 (isolation #6) » Tue Sep 27, 2016 2:54 pm

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uhh yeah the tunneling and the fierceness here, this definitely feels like town Grey.
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Post Post #347 (isolation #7) » Tue Sep 27, 2016 8:39 pm

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uhh I don't think he is scum Grey really this is NOT the game I saw in Presidents Mafia at all Also I think if he were scum, he would have better reads than that. And be far more ballsy about it. He got caught by the gunsmith in our last game together and came right back with he was the town vig and people believed him, even me. He does like being scum that I know about him from that game and others.

both of you are going in my town pile

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Post Post #348 (isolation #8) » Tue Sep 27, 2016 8:44 pm

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13 players so most likely 3 player scum team. Maybe also a SK but either way 3 player scum team is most likely.

Most of my experience with UT is as a mod

@UT do you have some recent town and scum games I can take a look at?

Snarky feels like he did in the other games I have been with him in but again no scum games there.

@Snarky do you have any completed scum games I can look at?
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Post Post #387 (isolation #9) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 2:01 am

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ok everyone stop

The foe button does not work on mafia games so no one is actually able to ignore anyone else. And even if it is frustrating, you should not BE ignoring players in a mafia game anyway or else how will you be able to peg who is town and who is scum?

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Post Post #390 (isolation #10) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 2:04 am

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I would like to hear more from Gear as well hes kinda not on my radar, granted with the kuribo-grey fight, the far and par fight, it has been a bit difficult to find the meat inside all the arguing and so on.
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Post Post #391 (isolation #11) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 2:05 am

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Grey does that but he does it as town Grey.
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Post Post #398 (isolation #12) » Wed Sep 28, 2016 2:10 am

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I will get more posted in a day or so I am really busy right now and mostly just checking in on my games. I have a massive project I have to get the outline done for and turned into the client plus some prep work for my 30 day challenge that starts next Monday, plus of course housework loads of it.
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Post Post #600 (isolation #13) » Thu Sep 29, 2016 5:59 am

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On the hospital WiFi and my kindle fire will post more when I get back home.
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Post Post #601 (isolation #14) » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:00 am

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Oooh page top lol
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Post Post #777 (isolation #15) » Sun Oct 02, 2016 12:19 pm

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Umm this game ended before my V/LA did, not that I am unhappy since we nailed scum.

On top of everything else now I am sick and have spent most of the weekend off and on bundled up in my recliner sleeping.

WTF Far? Yeah I was struggling to figure out reads because I was busy with RL shit. Plus like half the day was Grey tunneling on you, while you and Para were tunneling on each other.

INTENT TO HAMMER based on Snakes claim.

But bloody well give me a chance to catch up folks uggh
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Post Post #778 (isolation #16) » Sun Oct 02, 2016 12:19 pm

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game DAY ended EBWOP
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Post Post #779 (isolation #17) » Sun Oct 02, 2016 12:20 pm

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Also my name is not Rachel it is Rachael which is one of the reasons I primarily go by Rach, just saying.
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Post Post #781 (isolation #18) » Sun Oct 02, 2016 12:37 pm

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naa it reads as someone who is behind and trying to catch up and who is sick I have spent much of the weekend sleeping which I always do when I am sick and I did not have time for this right now my 30 day challenge starts tomorrow bleah.
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Post Post #784 (isolation #19) » Sun Oct 02, 2016 12:48 pm

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well my top town read died and flipped town

I am town reading snake and kuribo

I need to iso para and far and sort through all that back and forth, but my experiences with that level of obtuseness on the part of two players having a go at each other usually ends up being TvT so for now both para and far go in my town pile as prob town.

scum reading Aris he felt off from what I remember on D1 plus of course snake's claim. I still would like to give the dude a chance to respond and claim and reads and all.

With two deaths, we either have a SK or we have someone in town with killing power. If they are a vig they need to keep mum at this point. I am leaning vig based on the nk of snarky, because I can't see a sk getting rid of snarky.

That is what I have so far.
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Post Post #785 (isolation #20) » Sun Oct 02, 2016 12:48 pm

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wait what?

what did you give him Aris?
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Post Post #789 (isolation #21) » Sun Oct 02, 2016 12:54 pm

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ok well I guess I will see you all tomorrow then, I should be over this bug by then and able to really focus

that hammer is a bit suspicious though, especially since I had given intent and had asked for some time to catch up and give reads ckd
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Post Post #794 (isolation #22) » Sun Oct 02, 2016 1:11 pm

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add ckd to my scum pile.

That was a very bad hammer
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Post Post #797 (isolation #23) » Sun Oct 02, 2016 1:13 pm

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yeah before SC closes the thread you really should finish the claim out and give your reads at least quick ones Ari
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Post Post #801 (isolation #24) » Sun Oct 02, 2016 1:17 pm

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Ok these are the rest I have not yet addressed:

Gear pinged me quite a bit on D 1. I am leaning scum as a possibility here. I have never played with him before though so its a meh read atm. I want to ISO him and really peg it down more.

kraska77 feel good about her being prob town.

Untrod Tripod hmm prob town


I know its not much and I will try to expand the reads further tomorrow in the day phase. But not sure when the thread will be locked and I want to at least get something out there.
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Post Post #803 (isolation #25) » Sun Oct 02, 2016 1:22 pm

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umm I said intent to hammer I did NOT quick hammer you dude.
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Post Post #809 (isolation #26) » Sun Oct 02, 2016 1:32 pm

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uggh well this is not going well

At least I have some reads now.
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Post Post #810 (isolation #27) » Sun Oct 02, 2016 1:33 pm

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f*** it I know it is not gonna count because of the hammer but doing it anyways.


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Post Post #812 (isolation #28) » Sun Oct 02, 2016 1:39 pm

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Mostly because I am irked by trying to catch up and having the hammer taken out of my hand
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Post Post #814 (isolation #29) » Sun Oct 02, 2016 1:41 pm

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Because I wanted to catch up get my reads more solidified and give Ari time to actually comment,

Not happy with the quick hammer and also not happy with Ari throwing a fit

means town loses important info going into the night phase.

meh

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Sorry guys it is gonna have to be tonight uggh so far behind on work stuffs and I still have to walk over to walmart and get my money order for the rent
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that was frustration not a real read, hence my unvote I was actually trying to catch up and you grabbed the hammer out of my hand bad manners, bad form dude :P
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Post Post #831 (isolation #32) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 8:48 am

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LOL Kuribo I totally did not need that image :lol:

I need to write for my client, not think about your left nut.
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Post Post #833 (isolation #33) » Wed Oct 05, 2016 9:02 am

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chokes on her soda.


on that note, I guess I better get ready to walk the mile over to Walmart and get the money order for the rent. I will be back later dudes and dudettes.
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Post Post #929 (isolation #34) » Thu Oct 06, 2016 6:01 pm

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Far is at L-1?

Jeeze let a girl catch up a bit why dontcha :P

ok well I think gear is scumz so yeah

that is where my vote is going

I am not yet sold on far or para not being a TvT froofroo

Feel pretty good about Kuribo, snake (obviously), and UT being town,

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Post Post #989 (isolation #35) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 4:31 am

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:lol: Kuribo

hey boys you are both town chill lets focus on scumz.
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Post Post #1008 (isolation #36) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 4:43 am

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snake dude, not a good idea to antagonize long time players.

I am voting gear because I think he is scumz

I am not sold on either para or far being scum yet.

I can't go into detail on my para read but he feels towny to me.

Usually when you have two players going at it hammer and tongs they both turn out to be town. I feel better about my town read on para over far though.

Snake is obv town but needs to cool his jets down a bit.

Kuribo is town

ckd is town.

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Post Post #1012 (isolation #37) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 4:52 am

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In post 694, StrangerCoug wrote:
VOTE COUNT

eagerSnake (1): SirCakez
GreyICE (1): Gear
farside22 (1): Parama

SirCakes (7): curiouskarmadog, Untrod Tripod, farside22, eagerSnake, kuribo, GreyICE, kraska77

Not voting (4): RachMarie, SnarkySnowman, Aristophanes

With
13
players alive, it takes
7
votes to lynch.

You decide that SirCakez is not loyal to the Wings of Fire and have him dispatched in a hail of gunfire. After he drops dead, you flip him onto his belly to find that he's not wearing the colors of the Wings of Fire. That's an Outcasts jacket he was wearing. And he knew exactly where to hide... until you found his hiding spot.

That's one traitor to the Wings of Fire MC down.


SirCakes, who was a
Mafia ninja
, has been lynched on Day 1.


Night 2 ends in (expired on 2016-10-02 13:28:16).
In post 817, StrangerCoug wrote:
VOTE COUNT

Aristophanes (6): eagerSnake, kuribo, farside22, kraska77, Untrod Tripod, curiouskarmadog

farside22 (1): Parama
Not voting (3): Aristophanes, Gear, RachMarie

With
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votes to lynch.

You
VERY
quickly gang up on Aristophanes, not wanting to lose another one of your own to the violence. You choke him to death with a chain and destroy his motorcycle. A look at his jacket reveals... yet another Outcast. You guys feel good about being a force to be reckoned with!


Aristophanes, who was a
Mafia goon
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Night 2 ends in (expired on 2016-10-04 20:51:44).

He was on both scum wagons and it would be pretty ballsy for scum to double bus like that especially early on both wagons not as a last minute hammer cause you know it is a lost cause.

I could see YOU pulling something like that off, Kuribo, and I could see someone like Nacho do it, but not so sure it is UT's style. Granted I have more experience with him being a modly person than playing games with him.
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Post Post #1013 (isolation #38) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 4:54 am

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Gear on the other hand was on a vanity wagon on Grey then was not voting on the second one.

And that is the other thing that bothers me about far being considered scumz would she be ballsy enough to double bus both her team mates?
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Post Post #1014 (isolation #39) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 4:55 am

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And I am fully aware it looks bad for me since I was not voting either day, but in my defense I have not been super active on site with a long vla and being sick, so by the time I was ready to vote usually a hammer happened. In fact, ckd stole the hammer from me yesterday :mad:
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Post Post #1015 (isolation #40) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 4:57 am

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ooops early on the first not so much on the 2nd, still stand by my read of UT as town.
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Post Post #1035 (isolation #41) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 6:25 am

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If you all are wrong, will you please look at gear tomorrow?
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Post Post #1036 (isolation #42) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 6:26 am

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INTENT TO HAMMER
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Post Post #1039 (isolation #43) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 6:57 am

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chokes on her soda

thanks for THAT IMAGE Kuribo :lol:

Yeah I don't see kuribo SK as likely I think he would not only have killed every night, he would have picked different people to kill.
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Post Post #1046 (isolation #44) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 8:04 am

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Make up your mind Far am I scumz or SK in your mind :facepalm:

the shade is not helping me feel you are town

Why are you not voting for me if you think I am so scummy?

Especially since I have the hammer.
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Post Post #1049 (isolation #45) » Fri Oct 07, 2016 8:07 am

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so you are saying he claimed because he did some theorizing of game mechanics?

That does not look to me like he is saying I am a JK and I jailed snake.
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Post Post #1070 (isolation #46) » Sat Oct 08, 2016 4:02 am

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Yeah sorry forgot there was time in this game uggh

too many deadlines going on, I still think gear is more likely

The sticky point for me on scum far is would she double bus like that? Does anyone have experience with far bussing?
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Post Post #1077 (isolation #47) » Sun Oct 09, 2016 5:03 am

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Why is gear not voting Far that is what I would like to know?


Why does he only go on vanity wagons or not vote?

Meanwhile he skates while all the attention is on Far and Para?

Doesn't anyone else see this as strange?
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Post Post #1085 (isolation #48) » Sun Oct 09, 2016 7:55 am

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You think Para is scum you think I am scum

I think Gear is scum, Gear is not voting for you or for anyone for that matter.

I am voting for whom I think is scum.

Do you really think in a game this size there are 4 scum, Far?

There may be a SK that I am not sure on, but I figure there are probably 3 scum, or 3 scum plus an SK.
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Post Post #1091 (isolation #49) » Sun Oct 09, 2016 2:14 pm

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I should not ask my SCUM read why he is not voting someone, why he has not been on board on ANY of the scum flips?

I am reading Gear as scum and I am voting him. How tough is that to understand?
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Post Post #1095 (isolation #50) » Sun Oct 09, 2016 3:00 pm

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In post 394, Gear wrote:
In post 390, RachMarie wrote:I would like to hear more from Gear as well hes kinda not on my radar, granted with the kuribo-grey fight, the far and par fight, it has been a bit difficult to find the meat inside all the arguing and so on.
Anything that you'd like my opinion on you've got. I've shared my take the things I feel strongly about.
UMM what? He has nothing strong up to this point when he reaches out to me because I have a scum lean read on him at this point. Psst he STILL is hiding under the radar.
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Vote: GreyICE


1. Trying to paint an awkward comment by Farside as lie.
2. , from GreyICE don't make sense. He will only explain a scum read on someone to someone who is already on the wagon?
3. Talking about a Traitor.
Voting Grey is the best he could do?
In post 561, Gear wrote:
In post 560, SirCakez wrote:Gear your GreyIce vote sucks
That's cute
Looks like interaction between scum Cakez and him.

In post 884, Gear wrote:Parama is voting me over Farside, that's weird. I thought he was town cause I liked the reasoning that he wouldn't have wanted to kill GreyICE N1, but this requires some explanation.
Worried about a vote on him.
In post 890, Gear wrote:Anyway, either Parama or Farside is the last scum. Everyone else looks townish enough. I lean Farside because of dead GreyICE and Aristo's .
Now he is using Grey's flip against Far
In post 1025, Gear wrote:
Unvote

I probably won't be able to read over the weekend, and don't want to be involved in a lynch wagon that I can't react properly to.
Unvotes Far his main scum read who is also the other wagon.
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Post Post #1115 (isolation #51) » Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:33 am

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ckd

My question still stands if I go compromise with you lot on Far, and yeah of the two if one is scum it would be her over Para for sure, and you all turn out to be wrong, and the game does not end, will you at least LOOK at Gear tomorrow?
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Post Post #1116 (isolation #52) » Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:34 am

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Maybe because I provided reasons and a case why I think you are scum, Gear?
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Post Post #1119 (isolation #53) » Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:46 am

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and gave my reasons why I saw those actions as scummy, you forgot that part. You also forgot that I had suspicions on you from day ONE.
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Post Post #1122 (isolation #54) » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:41 am

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Kuribo that does not mean he is wrong about Gear though.

Will you look at Gear if lynching Far does not end the game?
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Post Post #1155 (isolation #55) » Mon Oct 10, 2016 7:35 am

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Could be X shot vig does not mean they can shoot every night Snake, and if there is a vig i would rather they not be outted atm

How about work with some of us trying to build a town block to look at gear if they turn out to be wrong about Far? As town, you should be working with other players to find scum not just alone, because no matter how much you think someone is scum, you can't get them lynched by yourself.

And definitely even if something does not seem to support your belief of someone being scum, you still should include it, town needs every bit of info they can get. Remember scum know everything but who are the town PRs, but townies are wandering around blind.
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Post Post #1171 (isolation #56) » Mon Oct 10, 2016 12:45 pm

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Grey saying he might be scum is not counter productive to be honest. And you saying things like that, just devalues the case for scum gear.

That is the point they are trying to tell you snake.
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Post Post #1177 (isolation #57) » Mon Oct 10, 2016 12:56 pm

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Kuribo

forget his case what about mine?

I was the first to point out that Far was on both scum lynches, and asked if she has a major habit of heavy bussing?

That is the sticky point for me for the scum read on Far.
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Post Post #1199 (isolation #58) » Mon Oct 10, 2016 1:19 pm

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Kuribo

I know YOU would double bus you have major balls when you are scum.

What I was asking for from you and others who have played more games with Far than I have, is does SHE have the balls to double bus?

That is to others too not just Kuribo.
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Post Post #1231 (isolation #59) » Mon Oct 10, 2016 1:54 pm

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can we focus on the lynch of the day so tomorrow you all see it really is gear and move along?
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Post Post #1238 (isolation #60) » Mon Oct 10, 2016 2:19 pm

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@ mod Is there 1 or 2 votes on Far
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Post Post #1248 (isolation #61) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 5:08 am

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NOW I can explain my town Para read game just ended

The 42 role madness game with Wake and smith

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Post Post #1252 (isolation #62) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 5:39 am

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I will go back and look for those in your ISO

but he still feels like he did in that game.
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Post Post #1267 (isolation #63) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:59 pm

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so far no one has been able to or has answered my concern about scum far which is why she would be ballsy enough to double bus both her scum budz?

That is why I think gear is more likely. However ckd, if it comes to deadline and she ends up being the lynch of the day, I will switch. BUT I do want people to take a really good look at gear tomorrow if we are all wrong about her, or the game does not end.
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Post Post #1274 (isolation #64) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:25 pm

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its active, Grey is in it :lol:
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Post Post #1277 (isolation #65) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:36 pm

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May have been afraid Grey would go back to gear, also would make us all hot and bothered to lynch far.

Look at how gear has stated a scum read on far, voted then unvoted even though she was not at that time at risk of being hammered.
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Post Post #1278 (isolation #66) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:37 pm

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yeah snarky would not be the maf kill lol usually town snarky is a good easy mislynch and they would want to keep him around for that.
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Post Post #1299 (isolation #67) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 2:42 pm

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Post Post #1300 (isolation #68) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 2:43 pm

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That being said, I think it is more likely to be Gear.
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Post Post #1309 (isolation #69) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:10 am

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You seem to be under the mistaken impression that I care more about my own survival than I do about finding scum :igmeou:
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Post Post #1311 (isolation #70) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:18 am

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I said that the froofroo between Para and Far looked more TvT

I said that I thought you were more likely to be scum than Far

I said that if it comes to deadline I will vote Far over a NL

I have said that I think Para is far more likely to be town than Far.

I said I thought it was rather ballsy of someone to double bus like that both scum budz and I was not sure if Far was that ballsy and asked other players hoping to find someone who had played more games with her, because I have not played that many games with her.

I have pushed hard on my primary scum read, and even gotten a couple of the players to look more closely at said scum read.

It would be far easier for me to just go with the flow, and follow others on the Far wagon instead of pushing hard for my scum read.

So yeah keep throwing shade, dude.
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Post Post #1341 (isolation #71) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:52 am

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uh yeah ckd is correct I was thinking about Grey in the dead thread yelling at us all. And it was too good to resist, to be able to use that meme for something.

Way to misrep me gear.

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save in a possible MYLO situation where there is really a serious risk of not hitting scum.

We are not in MYLO dude.
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Post Post #1346 (isolation #72) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 12:55 pm

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I already explained I screwed up thinking we were on deadline because I was trying to catch up, even though being sick and all, and I was under deadline in another game and that is all I am going to say because game is still ongoing.

Actually had TWO on deadline, the other one is finished and I believe I posted it already the 42 player role madness game where I screwed up even worse by voting because someone said they were the SK and that ticked me off so I voted without thinking, after a couple of glasses of Merlot.

Still irked at myself over that, but then I never figured an outed Mason that was confirmed by the deaths of the other two Masons, would live to a 4 player MYLO in a 42 player game either. And I had been outted since day friggin ONE too.

And yeah Para I am noticing that too, its like nothing about Gear just about her and her reading you and I must be scumz.

Meanwhile Gear is like pushing the broken record of why are you even thinking of voting for Far (someone he has pushed a light scum read on himself), and saying I am scum for it.
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Post Post #1383 (isolation #73) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 5:41 am

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I can provide the last game with Kuribo where he was scum, when he is scum he is actually even more ballsy than he is as town its a rare thing since most scum are a bit more timid, but its how he wins games as scum.

Like for example, he claimed town vig (fake claim) when he was smithed as having a gun by accountant the gunsmith, helped coach the hydra consisting of one very definitely newbie head and another head that has played a while into fake claiming tracker with a track result of me visiting their scum buddy Kuribo after I claimed in MYLO as Hillary Clinton VT. I was the only flipping VT in a role madness game so not knowing how to fight it I basically slipped into character as Clinton. Of course because it was easier to lynch Jiffy while he was at work, they then switched over to him and lynched him,

The irony was Jiffy would have voted for me because he was buying their story.

So TLDR is If Kuribo were scum we would be in far worse shape right now and at least one of his buddies would still be alive.
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Post Post #1384 (isolation #74) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 5:44 am

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It is simple, gear, para here is playing like para did in the previous game, hes pushing his scum reads, he is evaluating things when he stepped away from the froo froo with Far that is. He is not always right, but he is clear and transparent about his reads. That is the same Para I saw in that game, until he got killed that is. After he protected our watcher.
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Post Post #1385 (isolation #75) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 5:46 am

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I am seriously scum reading YOU, gear.

I have some serious reservations about far but that meaning a double bus on her team mates well that worries me, BUT having a NL at deadline this early in the game is bad juju, so if gun to head it is a CHOICE tween a NL day and hammering Far, I will hammer Far.

I don't know how to make my reads any clearer.
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Post Post #1387 (isolation #76) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 5:59 am

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I have not played with him as scum before so yeah my data is limited.
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Post Post #1390 (isolation #77) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 6:09 am

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In post 1097, Gear wrote:Rach basically went through my ISO to list things, and then act as if they are scummy. I don't believe that she is trying to discern my alignment at all.
In post 1099, Gear wrote:
In post 1070, RachMarie wrote:Yeah sorry forgot there was time in this game uggh
This is probably bullshit
In post 1113, Gear wrote:
In post 1110, curiouskarmadog wrote:Never mind

Don't answer the question.

I know the answer. Nothing. You have done nothing in this fucking game that is town.

You are either a shitty/new player or the SK (if we have one). Hope you are learning this game.
Why are you subjecting me to this and not Parama and Rachael?
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In post 1116, RachMarie wrote:Maybe because I provided reasons and a case why I think you are scum, Gear?
Well you provided a list of things that I did, which is sweet but meaningless.
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Her town read on Farside has mysteriously and conveniently vanished today. I thought that her threat to hammer might just have been a mistake because she thought that the day was ending, but her recent posts indicate that her read has actually changed. Her read on me is convenient given that my lynch is being pushed by EagerSnake.
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In post 1248, RachMarie wrote:NOW I can explain my town Para read game just ended

The 42 role madness game with Wake and smith

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=67827
I don't believe this read at all. Details if you have them.
In post 1308, Gear wrote:It's scummy because it's convenient.
It's convenient because Farside has been close to being lynched.
I don't think tomorrow would have been easy for Rach if she'd hammered a town read today.
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In post 1313, Gear wrote:All you have done there is give reasons for why Farside is town.
In post 1316, Gear wrote:Scum read/ willingness to lynch a town read. Either way there's a problem.
In post 1318, Gear wrote:I'll answer that, but first I'd like to know why you think it's relevant.
In post 1319, Gear wrote:Just cause Rach says ask she says is that she was willing to lynch Farside at the deadline, doesn't mean that is actually what is happening. See above and the fact that she knows we aren't at the deadline now.
In post 1321, Gear wrote:I have a hard time not seeing that as her being willing to lynch Farside.
In post 1323, Gear wrote:CKD, there is no way that you are acting in good faith. Probably you are town, but you've also lost all rational perspective on the game. It's a shame.

These posts are why I say you sound like a broken record. And you seem to be both implementing me as scum, but then also seem to be scum reading far, but at the same time kind of white knighting her at the same time. Plus you state that Grey was reading you as town when what he said was he thought Far was more likely to be scum it is a matter of degree.

And anyone that has played with town Grey knows as more info comes in, he is known to move from tunneling on one player to tunneling on another, and that he is a force to be reckoned with.
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Post Post #1392 (isolation #78) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 6:13 am

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THIS even though I have made it abundantly clear my scum read on you is strong enough to push for your lynch over Far's and that I would support a lynch of Far over not having a lynch in a mini ON DAY 3, the time for a NL in a game, is only in a MYLO situation when it is not clear who the scum are, and you have too much of a chance of hitting town with the lynch. It is NOT good to have a NL on a day when there SHOULD be a lynch because town got lazy and did not do their JOB. Instead that is bad juju, of course not as bad juju on day 3 of a mini as on day 1 in any game, but STILL.
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Post Post #1393 (isolation #79) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 6:13 am

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Post Post #1401 (isolation #80) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 8:32 am

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well I can understand that with uberninja even though I did learn some stuff from him in my first game it was a bit of a shocker when he joined in, and eventually he did forgive me for not knowing about follow the cop, which mean I should have just doc protected him the entire game.
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Post Post #1424 (isolation #81) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 4:42 am

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Sure and I would even be willing to go first

I am VT
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Post Post #1426 (isolation #82) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 5:25 am

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Who is left to speak besides Para?

I know you have, far has, and UT has.

And of course I have and claimed as well.
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Post Post #1429 (isolation #83) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:18 am

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Para and ckd are my strongest town reads.

Snake is making me a bit paranoid why block him and not nk him especially since the doc died? Though the death of the doc looked more like a SK since it was stabbing? Need to go look at the other deaths to make sure its not some flavor thingy.

Far has more balls than I do double bussing her scum budz though.

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Post Post #1431 (isolation #84) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:52 am

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hmm seems weird we had two deaths on N1 and one ever since. Even with a flipped doc, there should have been two deaths?

Kuribo stated he protected snake on N2 but last night snake did not die, even though kuribo did, uggh

not sure if it is a SK or a x shot vig now meh

still feel good about my vote though.

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umm yeah and the way she keeps putting you and me as a team when odds are it is a lone scumz and a SK left or a x shot vig or something still not sure on that which is why I asked the question about doc protect.
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Because the only way that makes sense why Snake was blocked and not killed is if Kuribo changed his mind and doc protected Snake, and then was killed by the SK.

I mean isnt it standard for last scum standing to be able to do power plus night kill? Has been in all the games I can remember?
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Post Post #1442 (isolation #87) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 8:18 am

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ahem I am also voting Far
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the big thing for me was the fact she was on both scum wagons
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Post Post #1445 (isolation #89) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 8:26 am

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BTW totally off game topic but I LOVE your avatar its a Serval the foundation cat for the Savannah hybrids and I so LOVE those cats ♥
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Because I really thought gear was scum based on the wagon analysis was thinking maybe far was sk
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Post Post #1453 (isolation #91) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 8:47 am

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right because my seeing that I was wrong on gear means I don't reassess far

Um yeah how many games have you played with me UT? Not many or you would know I always look at things when it gets late in the game and my reads were flat out wrong.
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Post Post #1471 (isolation #92) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 11:05 am

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I am trying to figure out how she got I was uber town reading her, instead of reading gear as scummier when I pointed that out multiple times over the past couple of days
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Post Post #1494 (isolation #93) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:41 am

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I was not active day 1 because I was not active much of anywhere I was on V/LA for quite a period there.

And yes i was wrong about gear. Do you think if I were really the last remaining scum or the sk for that matter I would actually be that ballsy to push for a lynch on gear when far was set up nicely to be lynched? I did it because I genuinely believed gear was scum the wagon analysis said he was scum. And I wanted to eliminate the maf team first then go after the sk.

Now does it make sense?

But since I was wrong on gear, and the other wagon was far, it makes more sense to go back there. She is probably the sk but we need another non townie lynch or we are going to be screwed as a town. Especially with her wanting to know if the sk and scum can do a joint win.

We need to stop lynching townies and get the last scum and the sk,
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Post Post #1497 (isolation #94) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:43 am

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uggh ckd I hope not, that would mean I am wrong about yet another read.
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Post Post #1499 (isolation #95) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:45 am

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yes because I thought gear was the final scum and far was the sk

at this point having helped lynch a fellow townie I don't care anymore about protocol I want whichever one we can get lynched the final scum bucket or the sk

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Post Post #1513 (isolation #96) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:24 pm

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because Kuribo saved your ass, eager

doc protect in other words
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Post Post #1515 (isolation #97) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:36 pm

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too bad you were roll blocked on gear that could have saved us a mislynch no way would I have pushed a lynch on him if you had said he went nowhere
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Post Post #1522 (isolation #98) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:01 pm

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I asked if you were ballsy enough to do it
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Post Post #1527 (isolation #99) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:46 pm

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hence the reason I was putting her in my sk pile and pushed my scum read

its not rocket science peeps
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Post Post #1535 (isolation #100) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:13 am

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I have been civil to everyone ckd I always try to be, I think the one time I really did lose my cool it turned out to be a fake player set up by the mod and played by one of the hydra heads (hiplop) I even apologized to said fake character later before I knew Caira was a fake :lol:

I think what it was, was the character was supposed to be a friend of the mod and a newbie never played mafia before, as shown by the posting number, but been on site for many years, but hiplop kept slipping and sounding like someone with more experience and that along with the RL stress I was under, caused me to blow.

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Post Post #1539 (isolation #101) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:35 am

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come on snake vote for far, dude

we were wrong about gear.
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Post Post #1545 (isolation #102) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:59 am

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Not opportunistic just tired we are so close to winning this for town and it seems like we are heading to a NL uggh
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Post Post #1551 (isolation #103) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:09 am

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not sleepy tired more tired of stuff in general.

its like 2 PM and I already way overslept today.

I will go make some phone calls I need to before the biz day ends BBL
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Post Post #1568 (isolation #104) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:22 am

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@ UT
So what are you going to do when you find out I am town and just not playing optimally due to being vla sick and trying to catch up on my biz stuff?

good news is electric gave me from Wed to Monday so I have a few more days to find more cliients.

I need 120 bucks by Sunday. I also need more work on a regular basis so I can really build up my business,

Meanwhile yeah I still feel good about my vote on Far.
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Post Post #1575 (isolation #105) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:27 am

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4 more days of UT tunneling on me
4 more days of snake not doing a thing
Far is of course not going to self vote

meh hello to a no lynch day :(
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Post Post #1580 (isolation #106) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:34 am

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yeah that is the thing hard to figure out I am going to have to go back through and reread the whole game, of course a lot depends on whether far flips maf or SK
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Post Post #1595 (isolation #107) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:42 am

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I am getting paranoid about snake could it be Far as last maf and snake as the sk? but Kuribo did say he doc protected snake on n2 after the claim of tracker. Yet would snake as sk not kill for two nights to try to fool us?

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Post Post #1618 (isolation #108) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:12 am

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ckd I respect you dude :)
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Post Post #1621 (isolation #109) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:15 am

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I try not to take anything personally in a game.

The fact we cant get her lynched though is frustrating, and all she fires back is para and rach are scumz

Then we have UT who is all about rach is scumz

Then we have para who is focused on far is scumz

then there is snake... ummm

and you and me

And we need four votes to get a lynch

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Post Post #1653 (isolation #110) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:23 am

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Um mod there are 3 votes on Far, not 2? And only one not voting.
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Post Post #1656 (isolation #111) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 7:07 am

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oh ok lol
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Post Post #1661 (isolation #112) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:57 pm

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Case snake?
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Post Post #1691 (isolation #113) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 7:19 am

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In post 1690, Parama wrote:in the meantime I'd really love to hear eager post... something ????? anything that could be considered content?????????
that would be nice his play in this game has been worse than mine as far as activity goes. His biggest moment was the track report he gave on Ari and other than that he has been coasting on a universal town read and has done nothing to help us find scum,
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Post Post #1699 (isolation #114) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 11:15 am

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Has anyone PMed him and let him know there was a hammer?
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Post Post #1704 (isolation #115) » Sat Oct 22, 2016 1:24 pm

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F*** me

I really thought Far was scum.

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Post Post #1707 (isolation #116) » Sat Oct 22, 2016 1:54 pm

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also only one kill and there was no doc this time so now Im really confused :?
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Post Post #1710 (isolation #117) » Sat Oct 22, 2016 2:06 pm

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uggh you are right and that means we are royally F***ed
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Post Post #1712 (isolation #118) » Sat Oct 22, 2016 3:05 pm

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Sigh atm Im skeptical of everyone.

The only thing I know for sure is I am town.
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Post Post #1713 (isolation #119) » Sat Oct 22, 2016 3:06 pm

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UT

meh, I guess ckd but I was really town reading him :?
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Post Post #1724 (isolation #120) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 4:18 am

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Sigh but I am town.

So the last maf and the sk should look elsewhere for killing

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Post Post #1730 (isolation #121) » Sun Oct 23, 2016 3:17 pm

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I stated I was for a NL I wanted to give everyone a chance to speak.

VOTE: No Lynch
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Post Post #1800 (isolation #122) » Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:32 am

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Sorry my play sucked so badly in this game. This has been one hell of a month for me :(

GJ UT

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