Mini 1834: Biker Wars: Blood in the Streets (Game over!)

[curiouskarmadog]

VOTE: farside

she has posted 3 times in two other games since she has posted here.

lets just do this thing.

pretty sure she is some brand of scum...

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ugh, fuck..

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I am the fucking perfect example of being back and forth on this.

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all signs point to farside being scum

I cant get over Parama's lack of interaction/voting of SC and Aris.

Rach looks super opportunistic.

I would feel better about this wagon if I was on it the lurker and noob.

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let me think this out for a second.

UNVOTE:

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we are 4v1v1.

if we kill incorrectly, and assuming the worse tonight (2 town kills)

we will be 1v1v1.

if we kill correctly today.

we will be 3v1.

it is imperative that we chose correctly today.


UT, Snake.....FUCK DO SOMETHING. DO SOME GOD DAMN ANALYSIS. WHO ME SOMETHING I HAVENT THOUGHT ABOUT. I FEEL LIKE THIS IS RIDING ON MY FUCKING SHOULDERS AND YOU TWO ARE DOING JACK FUCKING SHIT.

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Not opportunistic just tired we are so close to winning this for town and it seems like we are heading to a NL uggh

tired? tired of what? go to bed get some sleep.

we got 4 days. fuck off with this noise.

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UT, Snake.....FUCK, DO SOMETHING. DO SOME GOD DAMN ANALYSIS.

WHO

SHOW ME SOMETHING I HAVENT THOUGHT ABOUT. I FEEL LIKE THIS IS RIDING ON MY FUCKING SHOULDERS AND YOU TWO ARE DOING JACK FUCKING SHIT.

edited.

angry.

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I want UT to post why he thinks Rach is scum..2-3 points.

I want farside to answer my question.

will check back later tonight.

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I want UT to post why he thinks Rach is scum..2-3 points.

are you just not reading the game, or...

yep, thats right, I am not reading the game.

repost your case. if you really believed it, wouldnt you just have reposted again versus saying "you are not reading".

I want two points why you think Rach is ANY FLAVOR of scum.

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furthermore..

what the "or..." part?

you implying what exactly with the "or..."

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okay, so Snowman was the SK kill...his only contribution to this game really was.

Town {Cakez, GreyICE, UT}
~~
Scumlean {eagerSnake}
Scum {farside, Parama}

Where I'm at atm

the SK is experienced enough to kill someone that made it look like a vig kill. feel like this points to Far, Para..and some degree UT as an SK. also...it possibly eliminates a threat to Para and Far. I dont think Rach did this kill.

GreyICE, who was a

vanilla townie

, has been blown up on Night 1.
SnarkySnowman, who was a

vanilla townie

, has been bludgeoned on Night 1.

With

10

players alive, it takes

6

votes to lynch.

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2016-10-16 14:51:08).

Now if you believe Snake...he tracked Aris to Grey. Why would Aris kill Grey? Grey had him as town. Day 1 both Snake and I expressed suspicion of Aris. Aris didnt pick Grey to kill, he must have been convinced to do so. Also whoever did this told Aris to do the kill because (I assume) they thought Aris had less suspicion on them that mafia person X. (again points at far and para) Scum didnt think Snake and I were a big enough threat, but Grey was to them for some reason.

I think this points again at Para and farside. I dont think Rach(mafia) would have made this kill either. UT doesnt seem that invested enough to push this kill. I feel like Para(mafia) would be devious enough to a.) convince Aris Grey is the kill and b.) would like to kill Grey to further push his farside case.....on the other hand, Grey was a huge threat to farside.


today..unless shenanigans. I will only be voting Para and Far.

it would have been a slam dunk for far, but Para something about you AND your interactions with the dead scum are not sitting well with me.

as I am pretty sure I am needed for a lynch today, I want anyone who is not Far and Para,

tell me what you think about the above....do some god damn rereading...look at this game. we need to kill scum today.

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also if Far and Para are the two remaining scum...I am going to laugh and laugh (see Day 1).

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actually..

I have convinced myself.

I am pretty sure the two remaining scum are Para and Farside.

VOTE: Farside

EDIT:

okay UT whatever.

if Rach is scum and we lose, you can say "look I was right", but remember you did very little in the game, which is sad given your experience.

if you are some brand of scum, I will policy lynch/vig you, because really you just lurked/did the bare minimum in this game.

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lol

"scoreboard"

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if you take Farside out of Para's game.

what has Para done?

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but yeah I'm clearly a shitty lazy player

for the record...I didnt say you were shitty.

what has you riled up? I mean i am glad you are riled up...at least you are reading to "prove me wrong".

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Para..feel free to answer this for me if you want.

if you take Farside out of Para's game.

what has Para done?

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oh you know what I mean

anyway now that I'm reading that again that was a liiiiiiiiiiittle harsh, sorry

I'm just saying it seems like you've been inculcated into thinking this wagon is a good idea. Rach is pretty clearly scum pushing it. you and Parama seem to BOTH see that but you're wagoning farside anyway and that's troubling to me. seems like willful blindness

if you take Farside out of Para's game.

what has Para done?

uhhhh hasn't he just been deathtunnelling farside this whole time?

I dont want you to think I think you are a shitty player...I just expect more from you (not sure why, start date maybe).

so as scum Para "deathtunneling" farside means, he doesnt have look at anyone else.

also, if Rach is the last scum/SK

who is the last scum/SK in your mind?

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4 more days of UT tunneling on me
4 more days of snake not doing a thing
Far is of course not going to self vote

meh hello to a no lynch day

so Rach, UT has posted and far was at -1...so you can assume he is probably not scum (but maybe he is, but probably not).

Snake is a claimed tracker.

so if farside slips scum....that just leaves Para and myself...who is scum?

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so Rach, UT has posted and far was at -1...so you can assume he is probably not scum (but maybe he is, but probably not).

uhhhh how does that mean that? this isn't MYLO/LYLO

sure, but we are looking at an SK and 1 mafia.

you could have easily have said/faked something like ..."Fine CKD, you think you are so smart Vote: Farside, if we lose it is your fault" and nobody would really judge it. especially after you appear to be mad with me.

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also, if Rach is the last scum/SK

who is the last scum/SK in your mind?

UT

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yeah that is the thing hard to figure out I am going to have to go back through and reread the whole game, of course a lot depends on whether far flips maf or SK

if she does, we (if you are town) are done...most likely done.

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Snake is a claimed tracker.

I am starting to doubt that there is both an unlimited town watcher and an unlimited town tracker. is it more likely that he's an SK with some kind of tracker ability, or that he fakeclaimed a track to throw his doomed teammate under the bus?

sure...I am down with this.

but if that is true...

well, take it a step further in regards as to what happens next in the game....then keep it to yourself.

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yeah that is the thing hard to figure out I am going to have to go back through and reread the whole game, of course a lot depends on whether far flips maf or SK

if she does, we (if you are town) are done...most likely done.

does flip town.

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yeah that is the thing hard to figure out I am going to have to go back through and reread the whole game, of course a lot depends on whether far flips maf or SK

if she does, we (if you are town) are done...most likely done.

does flip town.

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actions speak louder Parama. maybe you have maybe you havent looked at other players...but your actions have been all farside all the time.

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also ckd i disagree that UT is being lurky and not scumhunting. I'd love to see him post more frequently but the stuff he has posted has generally been good

well great, then you made a friend for the rest of the game.

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for the record something like 90% of that is stuff I've said before. please don't accuse me of not looking at other players when it's just completely untrue and very easily disprovable

did anyone accuse you of not posting reads?

hi, you accused me of death tunneling and not looking at other players???

you HAVE been deathtunneling

I agree

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ckd my actions are voting farside specifically because I don't think anyone else is scum. I was looking at gear a lot yesterday too lol

do you like, want me to vote someone I don't think is scum??? how else do you expect me to act when I have a very strong scumread and townreads on most everyone else????

okay fine.

but as scum...you could have easily done the same thing to avoid voting your scum buddies or making enemies of town

bottom line: this game had 3-4 other scum in it, if farside is scum, then you ignored the other 2-3. you take farside out of this game..you have done 0 and havent ruffled any feathers.

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so...at this point.

we are now waiting on far and snake.

this should be fun.

I am REALLY done now.

will check this tonight.

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UNVOTE:

god dammit.

second guessing.

farside I do care.

so go back and show me where I was buddying with you.

go back and explain to me why my vote was awkward, and why that was scummy.

also, out of everyone here, I have been very civil with you out of history and respect...and that isnt my nature. so telling me to go fuck myself..well, that doesnt sit right with me.

you ignored this for the 3rd time..but i know you cant really answer it.

if you flip scum, I forgive you for being a jerk

if you flip town, you can go fuck yourself.

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My respect is lost for you completely at this point as a player who used to look past many factors.

I have asked you twice now to tell me why you thought I was buddying you. THAT was the reason you said I was scummy earlier in this game. Cakez also said I was scummy for no reason and couldnt back up it up.

we both know why you arent answering the question. because it isnt there. There is NOTHING in the thread before you said I was scummy that would indicate I was buddying with you. you just made it up. or lied.

that is scummy.

you know I caught you. you could at least try to explain it. instead you throw more appeal of emotion at me (because I guess it worked once) then just insult me.

again if you are scum..fine..it is just scum play, we can laugh about this endgame.

if you really are town...seriously, this hurts. you play poorly then have the gawd to say I am a bad player not deserving of respect. I am really really hoping on a scum flip here.

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man...really take this shit personally.

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ckd I respect you dude

lol

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well at least I have that.

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where did you feel like I was buddying with you that made you put me on your scum list?

what unvote was awkward?..and what was awkward about it do you think?
now with 75% more bluster

To respond to this question, never asked when I responded to his question.
I was referring to the first 2 post from ckd.

Counter wagon! Page 1

VOTE: eagersnake

I hate town lists day 1, knock it off.


UNVOTE:

The first post he followed my vote on snake and the unvote there after.

UNVOTE:

assume it is on you for now.

I didnt see that I followed your vote...so I guess I could see how you might have thought I was buddying you...

still not sure why you thought the vote was "awkward" though. I was seeing scummy play and wanted to unvote by nonvote. I GUESS it was awkward because I didnt explain it, but it should have been obvious.

why wouldnt you just say the above when I asked you the first time?

the fact you couldnt made me go back and double check and when I didnt see anything, I thought BOOM, caught her in a lie that she cant back out of.

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mod can you fix the quote tags above

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also if Far and Para are the two remaining scum...I am going to laugh and laugh (see Day 1).

Someone tell me if this is a slip that there is more then one scum left.

oh come on farside...you REALLY believe this? I am not the only one who believes this...why did you pick THIS out. fuck. this is why I think you are scummy. posts just like this. you cant possibly believe this.

you think that town having a watcher, doc, and maybe a tracker..

is not balanced again 3 mafia with (a ninja and maybe a roleblocker)

an a SK?

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and here we have the wild hypocrite calling someone else a hypocrite, an action that could be defined as hypocritical

As for ckd his comment about you and I as scum together makes no sense.
This is a 13 player game, if there was 4 scum I'd never play a SC game again. That's horribly unbalanced.

why NOW are you saying any of this?


how does it not make any sense?

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and yeah farside.

I am desperate. that is one thing you DID get right. I feel like I am the only one trying to get this right today.

I have reread this game multiple times now. fuck, I reread all that bullshit between you and Parama again this morning. trying to find ANYTHING ANYTHING...that would point one way or another.

my question to you is why are you NOT desperate?

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I was seeing scummy play and wanted to unvote

by

my nonvote.

edit:

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mod: prod eagersnake

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also if Far and Para are the two remaining scum...I am going to laugh and laugh (see Day 1).

Someone tell me if this is a slip that there is more then one scum left.

oh come on farside...you REALLY believe this? I am not the only one who believes this...why did you pick THIS out. fuck. this is why I think you are scummy. posts just like this. you cant possibly believe this.

you think that town having a watcher, doc, and maybe a tracker..

is not balanced again 3 mafia with (a ninja and maybe a roleblocker)

an a SK?

thought about this some more. you think that SC and Aris being the ONLY mafia, that after the SC lynch, Ari decided to kill Grey, a person that had him town? No...there is no way that a.) you believe that and b.) that happened.

so explain to me again how we are not looking at 4 scum?

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nah...you dont believe that.

VOTE: farside

you are trying anything at this point.

first you used appeal to emotion.

then you insulted me.

then you try to discredit me.

NOW you are saying I must be scum.

and like a ass I keep falling for it.

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UNVOTE:

this needs to be explored

I will not be prodded.

I'm still trying to figure out what happened to the 2nd nightkills n2 and n3

Don't think it was doc protection both nights

fuck the night protection..it matters exactly jack right now.

there is no reason for you to think that unless you know something we dont.


read the game..

who is scum? why?

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maybe you are the SK with tracker abilities and you were roleblocked by scum mafia. so you couldnt kill.

there is no reason you should think that doc protection didnt happen n2 and 3...

NONE

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why do you think that Farside, Parama, and myself are scum.

put forth cases.

are you following the game?

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also WHY do you think that doc protect didnt happen n2 and N3

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why do you think that Farside, Parama, and myself are scum.

put forth cases.

are you following the game?

and this?

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Because doc successfully protecting on consecutive nights is uncommon.

i have no clue what you are talking about here...but I dont care.

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why do you think that Farside, Parama, and myself are scum.

put forth cases.

are you following the game?

and this?

Do this

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No I'm just trying to figure out why there wasn't... why would I be trying to figure out why there wasn't a kill if I already know why??

You are not actively trying to figure out anything.

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Saying "I am trying to figure something out " is not trying to figure something out. You are using this as an excuse to not do anything today. In your next post explain why you think Para, Far, and my self could be scum.

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I guess to be fair I have unvoted and voted a couple times.

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VOTE: rachmarie

What happened rach not being scum?

What happened to me, far, and para being scum?

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Well I don't think UT or RachMarie is scum...

Farside could be scum..
Parama could be scum..
CKD could be scum..

So I've narrowed it down to pretty much nothing

Pedit: Ha! Funny theory.

You said this just fucking today after the UT CASE!!

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Each in order of post.
1) why do you find a comment I made on day 1 important and not asked sooner
2 and 3) you were the player bringing up 2 more scum members left just recently. Tell me how often you run across a 4 man scum team in a 13 player game.

I have said multiple times I have reread trying to find ANYTHING. I said when I posted it originally this is what the first thing about you that made me think you were scummy. I went back to read WHY it made me think that...then I followed up.

WTF, you fucking know...KNOW I am not talking about a 4 man scum team. please quote where I said I thought there was a fucking 4 man scum team. I have said multiple times...3 man scum team and a SK.

there is just no fucking way you believe that I was saying a 4 man scum team.

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vote farside.

done going back and forth on this vote.

now you are just reaching for anything...anything to not die today. who cares if it doesnt make sense or is just an out and out lie.


so Rach and farside are at -1.

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VOTE: farside

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okay....here we go.

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this day had me so stressed

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come on mod, suspense is killing me

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well 4 players alive...2 town 1 SK and 1 mafia.

so we are a fucked no matter what.

I for one am not playing kingmaker,.

Rach is probably the SK and Para is probably mafia. UT could be anyone of those too...but I dont give a shit. anyone at this point is says "I got to go back and read" are scum, because, fuck you what is the point. no amount of "rereaduing" will win us the game unless you are some brand of scum.

the best thing for a town player to do is..

VOTE: NO LYNCH

our only chance is if the SK and the mafia player kill each other tonight.

anyone who argues anything else...is scum.

also, if I die tonight and for some reason it goes to 1v1v1, the other town player needs to do the exact same thing tomorrow.

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i don't think we should NL straightaway though.

there is no reason town would want to do anything else at this point. if you really think the scum pool is Rach, UT, and me (because there is NO reason you should think I am town), no amount of talking is going to win the game for you. it literally is out of your hands right now.

only scum would want extend this day in hopes of someone else getting lynched.

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Scum,

just an FYI, this game could easily end and NO ONE wins. So tonight, YOUR only hope of winning IS killing the other scum and hoping they kill town. Obviously I want you to kill each other, but no, if you dont kill the other scum, you are probably losing, especially in the above 1v1v1 scenario above occurs and the remaining town player votes NO LYNCH.

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also, scum should know a no lynch fucks their odds of winning this game. curious to see how they try to spin it to convince us to actually lynch someone today.

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I don't want to talk to get someone lynched. I want to talk to make it easier for mafia and sk to cross kill.

sure you do...I doubt anyone is going to say shit at this point, unless they post a case why someone should by lynched today.

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be

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ckd why do you think we shouldn't have discussion? You agree that mafia and sk have incentive to crosskill. Discussion should only make it more apparent to everyone who mafia and sk are. Which is exactly what the town needs.

sure talk away, but I imagine scum know who each other are at this point. why ask me this question? you think I have some scum motivation for fucking pushing a NO lynch?

my vote, Para is mafia.

SK either UT or Rach, leaning HEAVILY Rach.

my cases for each are already in the game.

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CKD. I have literally said that I agree with NL.

actions > words

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at this point, no one is going to trust each other's opinions...and really no one should. so you guys can talk all you want. But nothing is coming out of this day content wise.

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oh you sons of bitches

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so I am not sure why one of you two DIDNT kill last night, you will have to explain that to me.

so Para is mafia and UT is the SK...which explains why you got so mad when I said if you win my lurker I was going to be pissed.

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also

VOTE: no lynch

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also, I was surprised by both the Rach and EagerSnake's flips.

farside, not as much, I was 50/50 on her those last two days.

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so Par, you killed Grey, to set up Farside....which I fell for so, good for you. hope the mafia thread is released, would love to see what you said to Aris, to convince him to kill a guy that was reading him town.

you know, you guys can just kill me tonight and we can all lose. unless of course, the SK has some kind of shenanigans (which would explain the lack of kills).

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well fuck.

I just deleted a hate filled post.

will just sum up.

hate that UT lurked.
I will never join a game with Eagersnake.
sorry farside, but you WERE scummy, especially at the end. But I was conflicted the entire time.
I nailed 2 out of the 4 scum, but that gets me jack shit.
thanks mod for moderating.

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Like seriously I'm not saying I'm God of Mafia or something, but casually downplaying the win is pretty sore loser-y and I don't get why. Was I mean to you or something?

I get it, but it was on the border of lurking.

and I said that WHILE we were in the game, so dont act like this is something new I am saying because I lost. But that being said, I am probably sore losery it a bit. This game rubbed me wrong a couple levels.

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..on a couple..