Mini 1840: Watch Dogs Blitz [Game Over]

Creature · Post Post #8 (isolation #0) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:19 am

lol whispers

Way to break the game.

Creature · Post Post #23 (isolation #1) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:27 am

Yeah, that was bad.

VOTE: Gamma

Creature · Post Post #27 (isolation #2) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:32 am

Yeah, scum feel less comfortable leaving naked votes apparently.

Creature · Post Post #53 (isolation #3) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:39 am

Yey Infinity is town

Creature · Post Post #54 (isolation #4) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:40 am

In post 46, lane0168 wrote:
In post 27, Creature wrote:Yeah, scum feel less comfortable leaving naked votes apparently.
What do you mean "apparently"? That seems weird. Apparent by what?

Experience

Creature · Post Post #58 (isolation #5) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:44 am

In post 56, Gamma Emerald wrote:Actually, I'm more willing to believe the "naked votes are scummy" tell is BS.

Good

Creature · Post Post #60 (isolation #6) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:44 am

In post 55, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 53, Creature wrote:Yey Infinity is town
Why do you say that

Micro 647

Creature · Post Post #65 (isolation #7) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:48 am

In post 61, lane0168 wrote:
In post 54, Creature wrote:
In post 46, lane0168 wrote:
In post 27, Creature wrote:Yeah, scum feel less comfortable leaving naked votes apparently.
What do you mean "apparently"? That seems weird. Apparent by what?
Experience
You don't say" apparently" when its based on experience. I think you're full of it

Okay then

Creature · Post Post #69 (isolation #8) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:53 am

Math's logic is probwrong, but probtown.

Creature · Post Post #72 (isolation #9) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:54 am

Wait, is Math townreading or scumreading lane?

Creature · Post Post #76 (isolation #10) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:56 am

In post 71, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 60, Creature wrote:
In post 55, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 53, Creature wrote:Yey Infinity is town
Why do you say that
Micro 647
zzz

Can you be more specific?

I feel like there was an line missing that gamma would've said if he were town relating to his RBS. Like "it's the obvious thing to do as both alignments" rather than the "how am I supposed to not get scumread" shit.

I don't know how to explain further than "It looks similar to your early game there"

Creature · Post Post #78 (isolation #11) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:57 am

Gamma, two players voting you doesn't mean one of them must be scum.

Creature · Post Post #81 (isolation #12) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:59 am

"It's not the wording I want, must be scum"

Creature · Post Post #82 (isolation #13) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:59 am

In post 80, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 78, Creature wrote:Gamma, two players voting you doesn't mean one of them must be scum.
It's the way the wagon formed.

Why it indicates one scum?

Creature · Post Post #85 (isolation #14) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:02 am

In post 84, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 82, Creature wrote:
In post 80, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 78, Creature wrote:Gamma, two players voting you doesn't mean one of them must be scum.
It's the way the wagon formed.
Why it indicates one scum?
Because it feels like scum trying to get an easy mislynch.

Why would we push your lynch that early?

Creature · Post Post #91 (isolation #15) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:13 am

Me and Infinity

Creature · Post Post #93 (isolation #16) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:18 am

I wonder how this site would look like if the meta said: Townreading = Buddying

Creature · Post Post #97 (isolation #17) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:24 am

In post 81, Creature wrote:"It's not the wording I want, must be scum"

Creature · Post Post #98 (isolation #18) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:26 am

What I mean is that even if one of us is scum, town won't let the wagon end in a lynch that early, at some point it'll die.

Creature · Post Post #101 (isolation #19) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:29 am

The wagon wouldn't end in a lynch.

Creature · Post Post #104 (isolation #20) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:33 am

In post 102, lane0168 wrote:
In post 98, Creature wrote:What I mean is that even if one of us is scum, town won't let the wagon end in a lynch that early, at some point it'll die.
So scum won't try to start a wagon or be on a wagon this early in the game? Is that what you're saying?

No, I'm disproving the "There must have scum on Gamma wagon" theory.

Creature · Post Post #106 (isolation #21) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:35 am

In post 100, Infinity 324 wrote:Creature, what is your read on lane and do you still townread me

Still town, giving a moment before reading lane.

Creature · Post Post #107 (isolation #22) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:36 am

In post 105, House wrote:
In post 98, Creature wrote:What I mean is that even if one of us is scum, town won't let the wagon end in a lynch that early, at some point it'll die.
That's a bullshit assumption.

How many games an early wagon ended in a lynch?

Creature · Post Post #112 (isolation #23) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:42 am

Should eventually get a read on Gamma. Currently mobile posting.

Creature · Post Post #115 (isolation #24) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:43 am

Can you link some of your scum games (where you play since start)?

Creature · Post Post #117 (isolation #25) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:46 am

No, I wanted to test you (and push the game forward).

Creature · Post Post #122 (isolation #26) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:48 am

I forgive Star because it's Nahdia.

Creature · Post Post #131 (isolation #27) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:56 am

In post 128, Infinity 324 wrote: I like this better for now, I think he's trying to townread me early since it worked in the game he referenced.

Even though you should be aware of that.

Creature · Post Post #137 (isolation #28) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:58 am

UNVOTE:

Creature · Post Post #138 (isolation #29) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:59 am

There must have some.

Creature · Post Post #156 (isolation #30) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:22 am

In post 131, Creature wrote:
In post 128, Infinity 324 wrote: I like this better for now, I think he's trying to townread me early since it worked in the game he referenced.
Even though you should be aware of that.

In post 154, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 111, Infinity 324 wrote:Creature. Do you think scum!me could fake an opening similar to one in true love, especially since there are 2 other players from that game also in this one?
Creature, you didn't answer this

I asked for links, I am not sure how you play scum other than buddying me.

Creature · Post Post #158 (isolation #31) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:23 am

Didn't mean to quote 131

Creature · Post Post #159 (isolation #32) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:24 am

Does Gamma usually overreacts as town?

Creature · Post Post #162 (isolation #33) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:27 am

Should I just list my townreads in my phone?

Creature · Post Post #165 (isolation #34) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:33 am

Oh now I understand, I didn't see you talking about quicklynching.

Creature · Post Post #168 (isolation #35) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:35 am

Let me see.

Creature · Post Post #198 (isolation #36) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:53 am

Yep, scum are hiding themselves.

Creature · Post Post #220 (isolation #37) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:18 am

In post 218, Grapevine wrote:
In post 72, Creature wrote:Wait, is Math townreading or scumreading lane?
Why is that something dependent on your read?

I didn't understand Math's point.

Creature · Post Post #224 (isolation #38) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:26 am

Oh Nacho, you're pretty late.

Creature · Post Post #274 (isolation #39) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:59 am

Actually, none of Infinity and I are scum.

Creature · Post Post #275 (isolation #40) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:59 am

Can someone do an unofficial votecount? I think we can already lock this game.

Creature · Post Post #278 (isolation #41) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:05 am

StarGazers is most likely the scum in my wagon.

Creature · Post Post #279 (isolation #42) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:05 am

This is definitely not how Expedience plays as town lol

Creature · Post Post #280 (isolation #43) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:06 am

Actually Gamma Emerald is the only one worth calling town in Infinity 324 wagon.

Creature · Post Post #281 (isolation #44) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:07 am

Expedience
StarGazers
Dunnstral

Grapevine
Tatsuya Kagame
GuiltyLion
MathBlade
SlySly

Creature · Post Post #282 (isolation #45) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:08 am

In post 281, Creature wrote:Expedience
StarGazers
Dunnstral

Who's most likely the scum PR?

Creature · Post Post #284 (isolation #46) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:15 am

Scummier to less scummier

If someone is not in this list, it's a strong townread.

Creature · Post Post #285 (isolation #47) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:17 am

Actually, just need to ask another question:^

Infinity 324, if you experienced me whiteknighting Eggman in Mini 1805, why are you not okay with me townreading you here?

Creature · Post Post #290 (isolation #48) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:29 am

VOTE: StarGazers

Creature · Post Post #291 (isolation #49) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:29 am

In post 289, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 285, Creature wrote:Actually, just need to ask another question:^

Infinity 324, if you experienced me whiteknighting Eggman in Mini 1805, why are you not okay with me townreading you here?
It was too quick imo

The defense of eggman was way different

Remember that I started defending Eggman when he pointed his VT crumb?

Creature · Post Post #317 (isolation #50) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:34 pm

What do you think about this?

In post 194, House wrote:
In post 191, Infinity 324 wrote:VOTE: lane
lane looks sincerely concerned about scum trying to disguise communications.

He doesn't seem to know scum have day chat.

Dude's town.

Creature · Post Post #319 (isolation #51) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:44 pm

Wow

Do you oppose StarGazers wagon?

Creature · Post Post #321 (isolation #52) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:49 pm

Town (no order, no intensity)

Infinity324
Gamma Emerald
lane0168
Creature
House

Loading

SlySly
Dunnstral
Grapevine (Varsoon + grapes)
Mathblade

If they don't post soon, they won't post until postgame

Tatsuya Kaname
GuiltyLion

Scum (no order, no intensity)

StarGazers (Nahdia + MariaR)
Expedience

Creature · Post Post #472 (isolation #53) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 4:11 am

In post 323, MathBlade wrote:Creature's reads look like crap. Especially the StarGazers read. Not seeing how that came about.

I believe there's scum on my wagon.

Creature · Post Post #473 (isolation #54) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 4:12 am

Thanks for saying my reads are crap.

Is it an accusation? Otherwise you're wasting your time.

Creature · Post Post #489 (isolation #55) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 7:29 am

In post 224, Creature wrote:Oh Nacho, you're pretty late.

lol it isn't even Nacho

Creature · Post Post #490 (isolation #56) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 7:29 am

In post 222, Grapevine wrote:
In post 80, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 78, Creature wrote:Gamma, two players voting you doesn't mean one of them must be scum.
It's the way the wagon formed.

In post 81, Creature wrote:"It's not the wording I want, must be scum"
I don't think I've ever seen creature push on someone like this and he could be scum.

It's a cold shoulder, it's not trying to see things from gamma's side.

Like, I disagree with gamma that early on in RVS "the way" wagons form is very indicative of anything other than being driven by people not concerned with appearances. Which can be an alignment tell for some. But what he's saying is a whole lot more nuanced than "it's not the wording i want"

Who's posting this?

Creature · Post Post #491 (isolation #57) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 7:52 am

Okay, I don't think Dunnstral is scum anymore.

Creature · Post Post #492 (isolation #58) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 7:53 am

In post 476, Firebringer wrote:Infinity 324 (L-3): Grapevine, Expedience, lane0168, Dunnstral,

Why is this wagon yet ongoing?

Creature · Post Post #765 (isolation #59) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 4:51 am

Like the way players meta me the most complicated way possible.

Creature · Post Post #819 (isolation #60) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:28 am

You need to stop being so boring.

Creature · Post Post #820 (isolation #61) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:29 am

Infinity was the leading wagon for the whole day? What?

Creature · Post Post #823 (isolation #62) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:34 am

Like why's Dunnstral not being pushed? What's your read on Expedience? Do you think Stargazers' reads look natural? Do you understand why GuiltyLion is being townread? Is PantherPunt gamesolving?

Creature · Post Post #825 (isolation #63) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:35 am

In post 518, GuiltyLion wrote:I almost kinda want to just lynch a lurker today tbh, Infinity is one of the more active posters and that will be useful to town in the late game even if he is in fact scum. A Blitz Mini is gonna be a mess now that I'm seeing it in in action, it's gonna be way too easy for scum to coast and hop on the deadline wagon and it will be indistinguishable from any busy townies who do the same thing. We need to start getting aggressive about forcing people to commit to reads today before the deadline happens

I have Dunnstral, Grapevine, Creature, House as all solid D1 townreads.

Actually GuiltyLion has a good point there, too bad he classifies here.

Creature · Post Post #826 (isolation #64) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:35 am

What do you think about him?

Creature · Post Post #830 (isolation #65) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:38 am

To Grapevine and everyone.

Creature · Post Post #832 (isolation #66) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:39 am

MathBlade, did you play with me other than Wake Role Madness?

Creature · Post Post #838 (isolation #67) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:49 am

In post 496, MathBlade wrote:I think that Creature is scum. As town they would care if someone called their reads crap and ask why and try to sort me.

So Math, where did you get this?

Creature · Post Post #842 (isolation #68) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:58 am

Maybe Stargazers is town and MathBlade is scum on me.

Creature · Post Post #843 (isolation #69) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:58 am

In post 839, MathBlade wrote:Common sense.

Yeah, scum!Math makes a common sense.

VOTE: MathBlade

Creature · Post Post #844 (isolation #70) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:59 am

I don't think I can sort Dunnstral now.

Creature · Post Post #845 (isolation #71) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:59 am

Anyone who played with Expedience before, do you think he's playing like he does as town this game?

Creature · Post Post #846 (isolation #72) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:01 am

Not satisfied with Panther's posts so far.

Creature · Post Post #847 (isolation #73) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:02 am

In post 827, Firebringer wrote:Lane0168 (L-4): Pantherpunt, SlySly,GuiltyLion,
Dunnstral (L-6): Gamma Emerald,
StarGazers (L-6): Creature,
Grapevine (L-6): Infinity324,
Infinity 324 (L-5): Expedience, lane0168,
Gamma Emerald (L-5): House, Grapevine,

Won't join Lane, Infinity or Gamma.

Creature · Post Post #850 (isolation #74) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:04 am

I can put on my last will anyway what makes me hesitant to call Dunnstral scum.

Creature · Post Post #851 (isolation #75) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:05 am

What's your opinion on 518?

Creature · Post Post #852 (isolation #76) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:05 am

^ Directed to anyone

Creature · Post Post #859 (isolation #77) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:13 am

Just strange that he's suggesting a lurker lynch when he's one himself. I did the same thing in Wake's Role Madness.

Creature · Post Post #867 (isolation #78) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:19 am

In post 864, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 859, Creature wrote:Just strange that he's suggesting a lurker lynch when he's one himself. I did the same thing in Wake's Role Madness.
Were you scum?

Yes.

Creature · Post Post #869 (isolation #79) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:19 am

Otherwise why would I point that out?

Creature · Post Post #871 (isolation #80) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:21 am

Maybe the difference is that I mentioned that in Wake's Role Madness because there were a lot of lurkers there and I could make myself look better than them there. While GuiltyLion is likely the more lurky player here, but my question is: Wouldn't he try to be himself more active if he's suggesting that?

Creature · Post Post #872 (isolation #81) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:22 am

In post 860, Grapevine wrote:
In post 857, Stargazers wrote:@Grape
I read the spoiler and how strong is your sr on Gamma is it your best vote to you I'd like to see where your heads at cause those seem like pretty weakish reasons to vote I think Gamma had one of if not the best early
games/RVS~Maria
That wasn't the only reason I voted him.

If you're positive he's town please show me places where he's genuinely scumhunted.

Creature you as well.

Thought we agreed that Gamma's reaction earlier the day was towny. What do you think about it?

Creature · Post Post #893 (isolation #82) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:26 am

Wished there were someone who knew Expedience better.

Creature · Post Post #910 (isolation #83) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:30 am

Townslip?

Creature · Post Post #921 (isolation #84) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:40 am

In post 901, Stargazers wrote:Can I ask for a reads list from:
Creature Infinity and House

Please thank you ~Maria

What about the people I don't want to lynch?

Creature · Post Post #922 (isolation #85) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:41 am

At least not today.

Creature · Post Post #924 (isolation #86) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:41 am

SlySly

Infinity324
Gamma Emerald

Tatsuya Kaname PantherPunt

Dunnstral
lane0168
Creature

GuiltyLion

StarGazers (Nahdia + MariaR)

Expedience

Grapevine (Varsoon + grapes)

House
Mathblade

Creature · Post Post #937 (isolation #87) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:55 am

SlySly's presence in this thread is...Wait, he's playing?

Creature · Post Post #941 (isolation #88) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:58 am

Actually, I'd not mind a House wagon.

Creature · Post Post #956 (isolation #89) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:14 am

Guess I need to reread this thread (and avoid confbias).

Creature · Post Post #957 (isolation #90) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:15 am

I'm gonna do it later.

Creature · Post Post #988 (isolation #91) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:44 pm

Up to page 10

Townreading: Gamma Emerald, lane0168, Infinity 324, House, MathBlade
Not townreading: Expedience, Tatsuya Kagame, Stargazers, GuiltyLion, Dunnstral, Grapevine, SlySly

Creature · Post Post #989 (isolation #92) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:49 pm

Up to page 20

Townreading: Gamma Emerald, lane0168, Infinity 324, House, MathBlade
Not townreading: Expedience, Tatsuya Kagame, Stargazers, GuiltyLion, Dunnstral, Grapevine, SlySly

Not putting middle ground

Creature · Post Post #990 (isolation #93) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:51 pm

Actually I don't think that list will change.

Creature · Post Post #992 (isolation #94) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:54 pm

I saw Expedience white knighting me and leaving me null

PantherPunt I should still read

Stargazers look different, but not enough to put within the above group

GuiltyLion's 518 is still questionable

Dunnstral looks town, but like Stargazers

Grapevine is...Anyone played with Varsoon before? I have a feeling grapes is playing town

SlySly disappeared

Creature · Post Post #993 (isolation #95) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:55 pm

In post 64, MathBlade wrote:Calling it Gamma/Lane/Creature

*mic drop*

Lane Pointing out a TvS fight is not scummy. Look at recently completed 1825 I replaced into. Mentioned 1v1s I had and caught House. Only reason I got fucked up was Titus got in the game.

Running out the door.

Lane helps out buddy after I drop serious vote. Gamma tells the truth about 1 scum being already on the wagon. Creature buddies infinity.

In post 323, MathBlade wrote:I don't like the question exchange by Gamma. Seems like blatant attempt to fake a townslip while not being accused of rolefishing.

I also don't like how people piled on creature then piled off just as fast. That vote split looks very off.

Creature's reads look like crap. Especially the StarGazers read. Not seeing how that came about.

In post 325, MathBlade wrote:No. Because I have faked town slips as scum and asking if there are PRs is NAI.

1) Could be VT.
2) Could be power role derping to try to take heat off.
3) Blatant scum wanting to role fish.

You didn't "point" it out to me. As I said I was reading at lunch. Just not enough time to post.

Strikes me as Wake!MathBlade.

These posts I quoted aren't all.

Creature · Post Post #995 (isolation #96) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:59 pm

Then so far everything normal for Grapevine.

Creature · Post Post #996 (isolation #97) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:00 pm

What do you think about Expedience? House might know how he plays as scum.

Creature · Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:28 am

I think we should start coordinating a lynch. If we wait until there's one less day left, we'll have to form a flashwagon, flashwagons make scum happy (as they can just push on one and town will most likely follow it).

What about we make two wagons?

Creature · Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:28 am

I think Expedience could be one.

Creature · Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:31 am

Anyone has suggestions?

Creature · Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:33 am

Who else?

Creature · Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:37 am

Yeah, I'd take out Expedience and put PantherPunt.

Creature · Sat Oct 15, 2016 4:36 am

In post 1209, Firebringer wrote:
GuiltyLion has requested replacement. Searching now.

Hopefully a gamesolver/smart player replaces in.

Creature · Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:32 am

PantherPunt so far is a nice wagon to compete among other.

Creature · Sat Oct 15, 2016 10:28 am

I simply put you as "not townreading", there's no order in that list.

Also, yeah, Stargazers looks really bad there.

Creature · Sat Oct 15, 2016 10:46 am

VOTE: Panther

Creature · Sun Oct 16, 2016 5:28 am

Yeah, your wagon has the worst composition of all.

Creature · Sun Oct 16, 2016 8:40 am

Gamma wagon has the best composition, but I still believe Gamma's town.

Creature · Sun Oct 16, 2016 8:41 am

Also, wouldn't scum want to bus him?

Creature · Sun Oct 16, 2016 8:45 am

Is Panther being an asset rn?

Creature · Sun Oct 16, 2016 8:49 am

Okay, but who we wagon?

Creature · Sun Oct 16, 2016 8:49 am

I thought about Expedience.

Creature · Sun Oct 16, 2016 11:57 am

I don't want a SlySly lynch, but I don't know who to go for.

Creature · Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:01 pm

Could lynch Dunnstral, but it's mostly PoE.

Creature · Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:16 pm

Fair then.

Creature · Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:17 pm

I have doubts that I'll be there around the deadline.

Creature · Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:18 pm

SlySly
Infinity324
Gamma Emerald

Tatsuya Kaname PantherPunt
Dunnstral

lane0168
Creature
GuiltyLion

StarGazers (Nahdia + MariaR)
Expedience
Grapevine (Varsoon + grapes)

House
Mathblade

Creature · Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:19 pm

Fine with any of PantherDunntGaziencevine

Creature · Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:09 am

I am online

Creature · Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:15 am

Yeah, there must have an extension.

Creature · Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:15 am

I think Gamma is town (maybe Panther also is, but I don't want to push a flashwagon at this point).

Creature · Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:20 am

I wished there was someone with the ability to execute someone.

Creature · Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:24 am

I think we should go for the popular option, you don't want to leave someone alive who'll likely be lynched later even if you're townreading it strongly.

Creature · Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:28 am

Marathon game where I am governor:

Deadline lynch happens
Lynchee acts super townie
I govern the lynch
Super townie gets lynched next day

Creature · Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:29 am

tbh if we get Gamma to survive the lynch today and is lynched the next day, this town deserves to lose anyway.

Creature · Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:43 am

Dunnstral, Stargazers and Grapevine are most likely scum there.

Creature · Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:43 am

Oh, I forgot Expedience.

Creature · Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:48 am

I am hesitant to push a flashwagon.

Creature · Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:49 am

Wished there was an extension, GuiltyLion's slot still wasn't replaced, there should have a deadline freeze.

Creature · Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:50 am

If we're forced to lynch Gamma: all scum within {Stargazers, Grapes, Dunnstral, Expedience} gg game locked

Creature · Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:51 am

Actually, there are two townreads of mine I am getting paranoid of.

Creature · Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:51 am

Putting these on my will.

Creature · Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:52 am

Nolynch is always the worse thing.

Creature · Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:53 am

Unless you're confident there might have a doctor to prevent us from going even.

Creature · Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:53 am

Unless you're confident there might have a doctor to prevent us from going even.

Creature · Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:54 am

Fire should've extended the deadline by now.

Creature · Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:54 am

Fire should've extended the deadline by now.

Creature · Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:55 am

Fire: Oh there's a slot empty for the entire day, not extending the deadline.

Creature · Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:27 am

I have a role-related reason to believe Stargazers is scum.

VOTE: Stargazers

Creature · Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:27 am

Not claiming what role I am.

Creature · Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:28 am

Let's avenge Gamma

Creature · Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:35 am

Who do you think are Star's buddies?

Creature · Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:12 am

In post 1804, Infinity 324 wrote:Creature, are you fine with being lynched if stargazers flips town?

My confidence is pretty high, so yes.

Creature · Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:55 am

Who's more trustable there?

Creature · Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:17 am

Okay, I actually got a guilty on Star.

Creature · Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:38 am

I got just "Mafia"

Creature · Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:43 am

Want to test that possibility then.

Creature · Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:05 am

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Creature · Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:08 am

If you turn out to be town, at least we're aware of that presence.

Creature · Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:44 am

In post 1852, PantherPunt wrote:
In post 1834, Stargazers wrote:How convenient you lynch my top townread while I'm afk and Creature comes into the day claiming guilty on our slot lol I don't care what Nat says I'm willing to bet Creature is a role cop on us and saw that we're pr

We're a roleblocker and we can rb either phone actions or actual pr actions we can do both but we won't be able to rb the next night we roleblocked slysly last night
so he saw you were a roleblocker and decided that he would claim a guilty on you to get you lynched. knowing it's a 1 for 1 and that he'd be lynched the next day...as a rolecop

there is no world that ever happens and no world where I'd believe you actually believe that

gg your game is over

Also the fact that, not just SlySly, but I would likely die if we were scum together.

Creature · Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:52 am

Clearly a fakeclaim.

Creature · Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:05 am

It's possible Stargazers is a mafia roleblocker who converted its role to town. It's also possible they stole it from one of their scum partner, but I find that unlikely.

Creature · Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:08 am

I don't want to abandon my guilty, MariaR is in the same position as she was before, except she can use "misguided" result as an excuse.

If there's some scum able to misguide cop, I need to know.

Creature · Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:09 am

In post 1905, Dunnstral wrote:Mafia can't become town without ruining the game

Like if you were mafia roleblocker but claimed town roleblocker.

Creature · Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:13 am

I don't think I would redirect/frame Stargazers (if I had that ability) when there are logically better targets for that.

Creature · Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:17 am

It's possible I was redirected, right. Though, still it's a slim chance.

Also, I would expect the redirector to be limited otherwise: Warning, too scumsided game

Creature · Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:18 am

It's possible there's another role that prevented the kill.

Creature · Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:20 am

If there's a non-limited Bus Driver or Redirector, I'll just not count this game to my wiki.

Creature · Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:58 am

Would you abandon your guilty because there's a possibility (even if it's small) that someone could've messed up your investigation?

Creature · Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:59 am

I don't think SlySly is ideal to make the nightkill, unless his buddies are all strong PRs or players that are most likely going to be blocked/tracked.

Creature · Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:40 am

If there's a Mafia Lightning Rod, I don't know how we would play out anyway.

Creature · Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:40 am

Btw, I am not lying.

Creature · Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:41 am

In post 1946, PantherPunt wrote:
In post 1943, Creature wrote:Would you abandon your guilty because there's a possibility (even if it's small) that someone could've messed up your investigation?
is this a hypothetical question? as in the "you" is referring to yourself, creature?

Yes, it's an hypothetical question.

Creature · Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:12 pm

I didn't know how to act before revealing my guilty.

Creature · Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:14 pm

Also, if you believe Stargazers is town and I was most likely redirected:
1. Don't post before next step.
2. Take a look at how MariaR acted and how others reacted in Open 649.
3. Get out of your computer and think deep about that.
4. Return to the thread.
5. Vote Stargazers/hunt their scum buddies.

Creature · Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:14 pm

The earlier, the better.

Creature · Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:17 pm

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=67549

Creature · Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:15 pm

MathBlade, let's just do the optimal play.

Creature · Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:16 pm

It'd be really embarrassing to let a scum survive to endgame even if someone guiltied them.

Creature · Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:32 am

I don't think SlySly/StarGazers make sense because even if SlySly were lynched and flipped scum, StarGazers would still most likely be lynched because of the guilty.

Creature · Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:36 am

Hopefully the title has a real meaning.

Creature · Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:37 am

Btw, what should I watch (series, video game walkthrougs) in my free time?

Creature · Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:40 am

Looks fair, but then we wonder: Who would be that third partner?

Creature · Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:42 am

Most of the mini games are 10 town vs 3 mafia.

Though, in my role PM it says I'll be told if someone is Mafia or not, so quite worrying.

Creature · Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:59 am

Watch out when taking Star to L-1.

Creature · Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:59 am

Though, it's likely Star will still try hard.

Creature · Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:01 am

Grapevine already lost interess in the game? wow

Creature · Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:12 am

Discarding us both as town sounds newbtown to me, but I'm not sure if grapes would be newbtown.

Creature · Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:32 am

Doesn't see the need for other town PRs to reveal so we can confirm Stargazers is scum.

Creature · Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:18 am

StarGazers + Expedience + Grapevine looks fair.

Creature · Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:23 am

Hmm didn't see

Creature · Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:24 am

idk Not Chara looks town, but I don't like giving strong townreads to who I never saw playing scum.

Creature · Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:59 am

No idea, I am considering others.

Creature · Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:28 am

In post 2230, Firebringer wrote:Day Ends 1 day, 23 hours, 11 minutes

Creature · Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:32 am

In post 2257, Infinity 324 wrote:If varsoon was the only head in that hydra I'd lynch the fuck out of him

Creature · Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:55 am

Either way you probably won't have to lynch me unless scum is confident I won't wreck their faction down with my results.

Creature · Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:33 am

Let's see what happens when I claim a guilty on my buddy:

As town, scum is very likely going to kill me because they don't want to have a high risk of being caught just to save a mislynch. As scum, town will worry about why I wasn't killed for the reason I said.

I also run the risk of being counterclaimed.

Creature · Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:44 am

Scum won't leave a cop alive.

Creature · Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:44 am

They could leave the cop for WIFOM purposes, but that'd suck if the cop guiltied the rest of the scum lol

Creature · Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:29 pm

I got a Mafia result, not telling who right now.

Creature · Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:45 pm

I have an item already and I get the feeling I'll most likely die tonight.

Creature · Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:48 pm

Okay then

Creature · Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:51 pm

grape, are you claiming vigilante?

Creature · Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:53 pm

Oh nvm

Creature · Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:15 pm

Hopefully it isn't multiball.

Creature · Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:15 pm

The red color suggests it's the only mafia group.

Creature · Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:15 pm

Yeah, there's no north club.

Creature · Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:01 am

In post 171, Firebringer wrote:
SlySly has messaged Stargazers
SlySly has messaged Grapevine

In post 223, Firebringer wrote:
Dunnstral has sent a message to Stargrazers
Dunnstral has sent a message to Grapevine

In post 310, Firebringer wrote:
Stargazers has sent a message to Dunnstral.

In post 429, Firebringer wrote:
House has sent a message to SlySly
House has sent a message to Infinity 324
House has sent a message to Gamma Emerald
House has sent a message to Tatsuya Kagame
House has sent a message to Dunnstral
House has sent a message to lane0168
House has sent a message to Creature
House has sent a message to GuiltyLion
House has sent a message to Stargazers
House has sent a message to Expedience
House has sent a message to Grapevine
House has sent a message to Mathblade

In post 441, Firebringer wrote:
Grapevine has sent a message to SlySly
Grapevine has sent a message to Infinity 324
Grapevine has sent a message to Gamma Emerald
Grapevine has sent a message to Tatsuya Kagame
Grapevine has sent a message to Dunnstral
Grapevine has sent a message to lane0168
Grapevine has sent a message to Creature
Grapevine has sent a message to GuiltyLion
Grapevine has sent a message to Stargazers
Grapevine has sent a message to Expedience
Grapevine has sent a message to House
Grapevine has sent a message to Mathblade

In post 486, Firebringer wrote:
Stargazers has sent a message to Dunnstral

In post 804, Firebringer wrote:
Stargazers has sent a message to Dunnstral.

In post 813, Firebringer wrote:
Mathblade has sent a message to Stargazers

In post 822, Firebringer wrote:
Stargazers has sent a message to Mathblade.

In post 833, Firebringer wrote:
Mathblade has sent a message to Stargazers

In post 840, Firebringer wrote:
Stargazers has sent a message to Mathblade.

In post 896, Firebringer wrote:
Mathblade has sent a message to Stargazers.
Dunnstral has sent a message to Stargazers.

In post 907, Firebringer wrote:
Stargazers has sent a message to Dunnstral.

In post 1534, Firebringer wrote:
Stargazers has sent a message to Mathblade.

In post 1693, Firebringer wrote:
Mathblade has sent a message to Stargazers.
Expedience has sent a message to House.

In post 1877, Firebringer wrote:
MathBlade has sent a message to Stargazers

In post 1933, Firebringer wrote:
Stargazers has sent a message to MathBlade
Not Chara has sent a message to Grapevine.

In post 2355, Firebringer wrote:
Not Chara has sent a message to Infinity 324
Not Chara has sent a message to Aquanim
Not Chara has sent a message to Stargazers

Creature · Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:03 am

Feel free to push wagons, we need some VCA