Mini 1849 : DotA Mafia [R2 - SD] Game Over?!!

[Creature]

If the replacement isn't quick we'll probably get an extension.

[Creature]

Oh good a replacement

[Creature]

Is Firebringer the new backup mod?

[Creature]

Is there a flip?

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Okay, let's use glyph.

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VOTE: LLD

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Hey Leon, what do you think about Sonia?

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I think Sonia's aiming to mislynch me. Maybe she expects us to lynch LLD right after me and Sonia.

[Creature]

I agree Vax wagon kinda sucked and should've let him live a bit more, but leaving BRantz alive to a possible MyLo/LyLo is suicide.

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Also, I wasn't considered vocal at Wake's game.

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but Sonia wants to quickhammer.

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I'm townreading you, Leon and Vedith, what scum would do if neither of them were there?

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Wake's game: Lot of blank votes, zero townreads besides the obvious.

Nah, not the same.

[Creature]

Sonia is in a good spot to push a mislynch on me.

[Creature]

Sonia + RR could make more sense.

VOTE: Sonia

[Creature]

Sonia, I don't think you don't make sense with neither of LLD/RR.

[Creature]

I already had you PoEd, and it's not the first time I suggested your lynch.

[Creature]

1593 is an answer to your last post in the PT.

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I usually don't explain reads to the last detail, but if you want to know where I got my townreads, it should show on my ISO.

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I think Sonia's aiming to mislynch me. Maybe she expects us to lynch LLD right after me and Sonia.

I don't think this is a reasonable conclusion to draw.

What did you intend to say in the second sentence?

If that's true, Sonia could let her partner have LLD mislynched and win the game.

[Creature]

Yes because the _____ is you.

[Creature]

So your plan is:
1. Mislynch me
2. Get lynched
3. Have your partner win 3p

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Frozen Angel

Are we allowed to send an image of the hero we chose? We have the images on DotA thread anyway, so it isn't taking from role PM.

[Creature]

Oh right, you decided to wait until we're two mislynches left to start to act.

[Creature]

Also, I think I could confirm myself as town if we get one scum today.

[Creature]

idk, I kind of need a mod explanation.

[Creature]

but it's a luck bet anyway.

[Creature]

I need to know all claims, abilities learned and night actions.

[Creature]

Let's get all claims and night results before we decide on a lynch. Otherwise tomorrow scum could easily claim a "guilty" and win.

[Creature]

I think only Math and you are actually trying to get my lynched, everybody else is ahead.

[Creature]

I've lost all claims though.

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I know I can make everybody in my clan 1-shot BP (as long I am alive) and I can make someone voteless for 48 hours if they visit my said target. So far hasn't sent a night action.

[Creature]

I am

so

sorry everyone.

I got a bit caught up in other things and completely forgot about Mafia. To my knowledge, I was not prodded though.

At any rate, I'm Lina. I used Dragon Slave on LLD last night, but that clearly didn't go through.

[Creature]

I mean 3 people have already claimed so I think it should get finished.

Vengeful Spirit

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I picked enchantress.

I currently have Untouchabe and enchant as my abilities.

I enchanted RR last night.

[Creature]

I picked Luna. I picked the ability Lucent Beam, which allows me to rolecop anyone on the opposite team, AKA Dire in this game. This ability will be useless after this massclaim.

I rolecopped LLD night 1, she is indeed Windrunner. I guess we know no one roleblocked me, at least?

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It's possible to confirm you didn't do the kill.

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Actually I realised I can't confirm myself, but I can find the killer.

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Radical, you actually hammered.

That was the fourth vote though? Isn't it five to lynch?

It might be less if my ability from last night activated.

I shot a ShackleShot at TwistTed.

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Okay, so I used my power last night that leaves me untargetable and means I can't do any other action that night.
Although the wording is tried, not did.

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can't find Vedith's hero claim

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LLD

Did you receive the flower?

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Radical Rat - Lina, targeted LLD, aka someone must've visited LLD, also gave a flower to LLD
Creature - Rubick, targeted no one so far, got nothing so far
Leonshade - Luna, confirms LLD as Windranger
xSoniaNevermindx - Templar Assassin, anything else?
Mathblade - Vengeful spirit, anything else?
Veidth - Faceless Void, used Time Walk
Lady Lambdadelta - Windranger by Leonshade, used ShackleShot on Vedith, aka if someone visited Vedith, their action failed
BRantz - Enchantress, made RR become a flower vendor for one night

[Creature]

Damn, so far no contradictions.

[Creature]

Also, I remembered Night 2 probably had nothing.

[Creature]

So it's between Sonia, LLD, RR, and I'm being added to this scumpool.

[Creature]

Sonia says I'm doubtcasting RR, but she had Leon as a possible scum candidate. She also says she can't be scum with LLD or RR unless she's bussing, and bussing is what she describes her scum meta.

[Creature]

When you can't read the rest...

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What do you think about LLD?

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Vedith

Have you ever tried to have an opinion on me by yourself?

[Creature]

I was talking about N1.

[Creature]

Also, if LLD is lynched today, scum will have to kill someone from you/Vedith or waste a nightkill on someone with a bulletproof vest.

[Creature]

Okay, so why not LLD?

[Creature]

Meanwhile in Post 1481:

That's why I'm thinking the possible scum teams are as follows (in order of likelihood)

Creature/LeonShade
Creature/RadicalRat
LLD/Creature
LLD/Vedith

[Creature]

Okay, so why not LLD?

Because you are obviously trying to mislynch LLD. Your self preservation is nauseating.

And you'd rather let town get mislynched and come to LyLo?

[Creature]

Btw, if I were you, I would wait Vedith. It wouldn't be nice if Vedith helped the scumteam of LLD/Sonia mislynch you in LyLo.

[Creature]

What's better than mislynching a loudmouth? It'll be LLD/Sonia vs Radical, Vedith and Leon, all lurkers or maybe MathBlade.

[Creature]

Okay, I'll vote myself if everybody is in approval with LLD/Sonia team.

[Creature]

I'm afraid Vedith won't agree and will vote you though.

[Creature]

Then who is? MathBlade?

[Creature]

There's Sonia + one of you/LLD/MathBlade/Leonshade

Leonshade has been obvtowning all the game and Sickofit seemed pretty genuine.

[Creature]

Ever played with Sonia/MariaR before?

[Creature]

Ever played with Sonia/MariaR before?

MariaR yes
Sonia no

MariaR -- What relevance do they have to this game?

Well, you know MariaR, Sonia claims to be MariaR.

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Vedith

Have you ever tried to have an opinion on me by yourself?

I don't get what you are getting at here?

@Creature - what do you mean here?

Thought you were the one who kept questioning the townreads on me.

[Creature]

^ Acting nice because apparently nobody has her as priority if I turn out to be a mislynch.

[Creature]

Would both scum push a mislynch on me rn?

[Creature]

I accept players having doubts on me, but I don't accept being called obvscum as town.

[Creature]

My scum games are much more....calculated

Creature + Mislynch = Town - 1 Loudmouth = Lurking town + Easy push = Scum win

[Creature]

Okay, I'm town.

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At least I'm townreading you, Math.

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Another reason Sonia would want me dead.

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Oh nice, when Sonia is about to have a smooth scum win.

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I wouldn't oppose LLD though.

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It's between RR, LLD and Sonia for me.

[Creature]

Math vs Vedith, what a lovable TvT for scum to work with tomorrow.

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MathBlade thinks I am most likely scum with obvtown!Leonshade -_-

[Creature]

Sickofit seemed town, MathBlade not so much.

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Math, I still don't understand, if I am scum, who's my partner? I can't be scum alone.

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Postgame:
Radical Rat: Sonia should be nominated for a scummie
xSoniaNevermindx: Thanks, but I was just very AtE-y

[Creature]

Yay RR is town

Makes things easier.

[Creature]

Still feel better lynching Sonia.

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RIP

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We call it clan.

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Radical Rat - Lina, targeted LLD, aka someone must've visited LLD, also gave a flower to LLD
Creature - Rubick, targeted no one so far, got nothing so far
Leonshade - Luna, confirms LLD as Windranger
xSoniaNevermindx - Templar Assassin, anything else?
Mathblade - Vengeful spirit, anything else?
Veidth - Faceless Void, used Time Walk
Lady Lambdadelta - Windranger by Leonshade, used ShackleShot on Vedith, aka if someone visited Vedith, their action failed
BRantz - Enchantress, made RR become a flower vendor for one night

Yeah, last night we used glyph and everyone was untargetable.

[Creature]

Also, there was an 1v1 with Vedith and MathBlade, but I thought it were TvT. I think the scumteam is Sonia - LLD by PoE.

[Creature]

What's your opinion on MathBlade pushing hard for both Vedith and my lynch but not seeing us as a scumteam?

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I was townreading Sickofit hard, I just find that weird, though I think it's usual for Math.

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Because I would like to know what do you think.

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At least I believe the one scum in {LLD, me} theory, though I don't know how we got to it.

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You replaced RR, right? I am asking about Math's slot.

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Nvm.

Though, asking for opinions isn't loaded.

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I do questions like this in every game yet I don't remember anyone saying it's loaded.

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I find it odd that after all the attention on LLD and all the interaction you've had with the slot, you're now stating she's scum by process of elimination.

Not just by PoE, Sonia and LLD are scummy while everybody else is towny.

I find it odd that you would conveniently forget who is in your clan and then pull a random reaction test on them with zero follow up (I frequently fake ditzy behaviors like this as scum).

Where?

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In the radiant PT, I'm obviously not able to quote it.

I don't remember doing any reaction test there.

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I don't remember where, but I think Math said I didn't look teamed with Vedith.

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Do I have to re-quote all my posts I've been saying the scumteam are Sonia and LLD?

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But hey Nahdia, if it turns out I'm town, it can only mean Sonia and LLD are scum, because everybody else looks town.

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Also, I don't want Leonshade to be the next mislynch, he's pretty obvtown and we shouldn't allow scum lynch another obvtown.

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For everyone
How tough are you all? After I am lynched, Sonia and LLD are going to act all whiny and full aggressive as the only need one mislynch to win and they're in danger of losing. So you'll have to vote them off and not get swayed by their flailing.

[Creature]

Special voting abilities don't work at MyLo/LyLo.

[Creature]

Otherwise you would quickhammer town tomorrow?

[Creature]

If you doubt that, see Pick Your Power and TTH's Summer Mafia.

LLD was seen as obvscum there but with good whining she managed to get town mislynch and win.

[Creature]

Also, we still need Math and Vedith replacements.

[Creature]

Hi JaeRead, I'm currently jaereading you, but what happened with your motivation?

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*jareading

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Creature ignored/dodged a few questions in our PT

If there were actually questions, I most likely missed them, otherwise I would've answered.

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Unnecessaur

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I never answered with a wikipedia article you mean.

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Yeah, we don't need to go too paranoid.

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Sonia - LLD

Still think RR was town. Not sure on Nahdia.

[Creature]

I slowly learned frustation at most of the cases isn't AI.

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Meh, my reads might also not be accurate.

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Why should I try to get my scumreads lynched anyway if it might not be accurate?

[Creature]

Still leaning on Sonia and Titus. Everybody else (maybe with the exception of Nahdia) is strong town.

[Creature]

Will you doubtcast my read on JaeRead?

[Creature]

I don't think I'm voting sonia this game pal

Me:

Town:

[Creature]

Will you doubtcast my read on JaeRead?

Who, me?

No... In fact if you flip town I'll vote Titus with them

I think all scum are in this bloc: Creature, Leonshade, Titus, Nahdia

No particular order

Tip: Remove Leonshade.

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Welp, we could vote Nahdia off right now then.

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I already claimed Rubick with Fade Bolt (removes votes of who visits my target) and Null Field (gives bp shots to my clan mates).

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Everyone claimed already, I got a list of claims, though if you have OCD better not check it.

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Radical Rat - Lina, targeted LLD, aka someone must've visited LLD, also gave a flower to LLD
Creature - Rubick, targeted no one so far, got nothing so far
Leonshade - Luna, confirms LLD as Windranger
xSoniaNevermindx - Templar Assassin, anything else?
Mathblade - Vengeful spirit, anything else?
Veidth - Faceless Void, used Time Walk
Lady Lambdadelta - Windranger by Leonshade, used ShackleShot on Vedith, aka if someone visited Vedith, their action failed
BRantz - Enchantress, made RR become a flower vendor for one night

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Normal for him.

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I don't take associatives too serious.

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Okay, do your "scumhunting"

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Haha I won't flip scum.

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Titus dies tomorrow, I just won't Dunnstral won't take his Sonia townread serious all the game. Would hate if I called the scumteam correct all the game but town voted wrong.

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*I just hope Dunnstral won't

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Maybe it could be Titus - Nahdia, but don't auto-assume it's Titus - Nahdia.

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Anyone else is town.

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Titus + Nahdia or Titus + Sonia. Put some effort there.

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Oh look, Sonia disappeared now. Should we take that as a guilt admission?

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Titus + Sonia >>>> Titus + Nahdia

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And the hell, townreading Sonia for frustation is like townreading a lurker because the mafia kill succeeded.

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You won't sort Sonia by "emotions"

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Btw, this is scum!Titus, Mini1801!Titus. She's focused on looking like she's solving the game, but her reads don't really make sense.

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90%

Titus being town would require the scumteam being you and Nahdia or one of Jae/Sick/Leon playing an excellect scumgame.

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Sonia can't doublevote at LyLo.

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Btw, when sorting Sonia, don't try to sort her by looking her emotions, look the content of her posts, caps or not, what matters is the content.

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You're from EpicMafia, so no.

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Oh right, scum will attempt a mislynch on you.

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lol never said anything that classifies as BoP.

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Still Titus + Sonia

[Creature]

Let's get that comeback for town.

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Oh right, you'll now pretend I'm scum and whatever I say post-hammer is scum-motivation.

[Creature]

Hell, if you hammer it's expected you were caught up.

[Creature]

Oh right, didn't notice.

[Creature]

Dunn changed his vote to Titus, so:

Sonia, Sonia, Titus

[Creature]

I'm not even sure if I would act this way as scum even if I knew I wasn't hammered.

[Creature]

VOTE: Titus

Bah, let's go.

[Creature]

JaeRead is still my jaeread.

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What do you think about Creature's reaction to his wagon earlier where he thought he'd been hammered? I thought he was too so... :/ I can't see him continuing to scumhunt after his hammer as scum tbh rather than shitposting.

Totally fakeable.

I have a rule regarding this. It's called play to the flip. I only deviate in very rare instances.

Huh, I'd rather play to economy. A flip won't always be helpful.

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Still think scum are just in {Nahdia, Sonia, Titus} and the scum inside it are trying to expand the pool.

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Sickofit was super town anyway.

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Read Sickofit.

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Sickofit must have a high readability.

[Creature]

Sick of faces reaction was the EXACT same in dance mafia
(hint: He was scum)

You mean one of the FakeGod's games?

[Creature]

I see Dunnstral being lynched right after I flip town.

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Meh, Sickofit posted once in a blue moon in Autumn Masquerade then suddenly got active.

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While Sickofit seemed way lot more active earlier the game, trying to push discussion.

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Meh, Sickofit posted once in a blue moon in Autumn Masquerade then suddenly got active.

wait this is your reason for a tr? REALLY?

I was townreading Sickofit off meta all the time.

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Yeah I know what Math meant. Lemme try to pull it up and drunkenly repharase this also

Spoiler: not game related

kinda off topic but if I'm town after all this you will not hate me right? I mean like I'm actually still upset about earlier and I don't wanna be I did really think that but i guess i was wrong regardless of ur alignment and I do want to talk about it and idunno i just yeah.. is that ok?

I will hate if I'm lynched today and next day town mislynches one of my strong TRs.

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Would also hate if it happened but in reverse.

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Sickofit (now Dunnstral)
JaeReed
Leonshade

These are all the readable players, before voting one of them, have a real read on them.

[Creature]

Still think scum are just in {Nahdia, Sonia, Titus} and the scum inside it are trying to expand the pool.

You mispelled Creature Leonshade Dunn.

Yeah, Dunn can only be scum with Titus, so that doesn't really make sense.

[Creature]

How accurate is "they"?

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Meh, whatever, now it's Titus > Nahdia > Sonia

[Creature]

Instead of lynching one of {Nahdia, Sonia, Titus}, we lynched another obvtown -_-

[Creature]

It's like another Vaxkiller lynch.

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Yeah, leaning on Titus + Nahdia.

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Yeah, it's just Titus + Nahdia.

So I just need to not eat the mislynch tomorrow.

[Creature]

I was going to check, didn't want to mention about it.

[Creature]

Yes, it still works.

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Btw, I am the only one supposed to visit Dunnstral, if someone else visits, there's no excuse.

[Creature]

It's sort of a watcher role, except that instead of me receiving info on who visited my target, it makes the visitors voteless for 48 hours.

[Creature]

Sonia, JaeReed and Dunnstral are least likely to be killed, so that leaves Titus, Nahdia and me. Any kill here will be useful.

[Creature]

What's most likely to happen:

Me: *gets killed*
Titus: Oh, Creature was town. So it must be Dunn and Jae.

[Creature]

I can say: I didn't voteblock Dunnstral.

[Creature]

Radical Rat - Lina, targeted LLD, aka someone must've visited LLD, also gave a flower to LLD
Creature - Rubick, targeted no one so far, got nothing so far
Leonshade - Luna, confirms LLD as Windranger
xSoniaNevermindx - Templar Assassin, anything else?
Mathblade - Vengeful spirit, anything else?
Veidth - Faceless Void, used Time Walk
Lady Lambdadelta - Windranger by Leonshade, used ShackleShot on Vedith, aka if someone visited Vedith, their action failed
BRantz - Enchantress, made RR become a flower vendor for one night

[Creature]

aka we must go to DotA thread and check Lina, Rubick (if you still doubt me), Templar Assassin, Vengeful Spirit, Faceless Void and Windranger.

[Creature]

xSoniaNevermintx:


Titus:


Nahdia's scummy role:


The player I'm strongly jaereading:


Scum's alternative LyLo mislynch:


Creature:

There was a Duplicate of this post that I deleted. - FA

[Creature]

Okay.

[Creature]

Welp, I'm now kind of townreading Titus. It's starting to feel more like the tunnel!Titus than the Mini1801!Titus that pushed a lynch but tried to not get very involved at it.

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Which is ironic, coordinating with her on a scum lynch will be pretty hard.

[Creature]

Btw, happy birthday, TitusCrowe

[Creature]

idk, what do you think about Sickofit?

[Creature]

I'm only townreading Dunn because of Sick.

[Creature]

Wait, if Sonia hasn't commuted during the night, then how Dunnstral can confirm she commuted?

[Creature]

Btw, we're not nolynching.

[Creature]

It could be between Dunn, Nahdia and Sonia.

[Creature]

Oh right.

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Titus

If I am now suddenly proven town, who's scum?

[Creature]

Btw, we're not nolynching.

If Dunn is town we literally can't lynch scum today unless scum bus.

If someone's refusing to vote we lynch him/her next day. Note that scum could refuse to vote town to set up a mislynch.

[Creature]

Oh nvm, I forgot it's MyLo and scum will quickhammer any town wagon unless they're really scared of their kill being blocked.

[Creature]

Unvote quickly

[Creature]

If Dunn isn't scum, scum could quickhammer.

[Creature]

VOTE: Nahdia

That's it. This is done. I am supposing I am the idiot.

Also wtf is this vote? Looks like a failed blitz.

[Creature]

Damn, it was Sonia + Titus after all.

[Creature]

If only Jae could come before Sonia.

[Creature]

"I'm like 99% sure X is scum, just lynch him, I promise he'll flip scum" is the fake confidence useful to defeat obvtown.

[Creature]

Oh nvm, though it was 3 to lynch.