Mini 1853: Trial of the Evoker [Game Over]
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What'd my prior say? Noncompulsive?In post 21, BATORU wrote:omg there are abilities like that? jeeze. Well it's not on Sondam so VOTE: sondam but please out to everyone ahead of time who you give that to so we don't accidentally hammer anyone.
This theme is really awesome and I'm going to try not to be a complete deadweight this time
-"tama"
predit: oh yeah you're right they would I'm dumb
Also whoever of those two acts odd around BATORU would be the more suspicious to me. First post from that slot was a sheep vote, something that felt like feigned surprise and an incredible amount of tentativeness.-
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I didn't specify what I figured "Odd" would be but yes, in general if someone is acting different towards Batoru (distancing or defending as a generality) than I'd be very suspicious of that slot.In post 1781, Fire Assassin wrote:So you are saying Batoru is scum and people acting odd around them are team mates?
Also yes my prior would've been lying on that. I received an ability last night.-
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Considering Pisskop has told me you basically have 1 scum confirmed between two players, I'm at least taking silver in that category.Fire Assassin wrote: You are basically telling me my strongest townread is scum right now.
You are also doing a pre flip analysis of Batoru interactions.
You sir, are the scummiest player here.
But I mean if you're that against having a town read scrutinized, you're liable to get your ass handed to you by a misread.
I think I've been along long enough to know what RVS is.BATORU wrote: I was gonna let Tama respond but I can't actually let that go.
First post was RVS. In RVS you generally try to get a wagon going to start the game. I don't see an issue with voting where someone has already done so there. Not a fan that you bring up participating in RVS as an issue. Tentativeness is kinda how Tama is, you'll probably pick that up as you read though if you're actually trying to read tone.
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Her participation in RVS isn't the issue, the tentativeness is. And this is regardless of tone a person usually has. I don't know either player in this hydra (at least I don't recognize either signature) so my first thought was "tama must really not have much experience to not know an ability like hated exists". However the second line, where she follows Wisdom's vote, is what really bothers me. Tentativeness would dictate to NOT start a wagon. Experienced townies WOULD start it, but with confidence. Certainly no talk about worrying for accidental hammers then. All in all, the post's actions and words contradict itself.-
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That's my point, she DID worry about it.In post 1792, BATORU wrote:Anyway, Tama does have some experience with forum mafia, but not a lot. Off the top of my head, two newbies, a mini normal, and a mini theme. I don't really know what you expect from inexperience, but I stopped worrying about lolhammers after my first newbie, and even then I think I was only anxious about it when people actually reached a danger zone. L-5 is nowhere near it.
Don't know what NAI is. I was more concerned about the associates of your slot because the order of business today isn't you but two people in a situation where at least one is lying about a night action. That's a scenario where you don't worry about lynching anyone else specifically because you know you have a minimum 50% chance to lynch scum.
Also remember that on my read-through, I DO get bonus information. I know two flipped townies and can use that. Not using that information for how others associate with the slot is a bad idea. Yes I'm going to use associative tells. This game is about interacting and naturally not doing so is just inefficient.
P-edit: Yeah there's really no need for a hidden intention here. I'm not interested in dying before a situation where a scum is guaranteed to be in 1 of 2 slots.-
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Yeah uhm let me download the few gigabytes of information in this thread straight to my brain and give you an analysis an hour after switching in.Fire Assassin wrote:
Then provide thoughts on which one is scum and town?In post 1791, Aj The Epic wrote:I'd prefer you get rid of the double watcher scenario first.
Well there is, and that's to collect roles. This slot has one amendment to it from normal and that's that we're non-compulsive. Going by his actions, this was exactly what he aimed for as he didn't take action last night anyways.In post 1804, Fire Assassin wrote:there is no town utility for fake claiming that.-
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Yes but one of the two people in question didn't show up much in the early game. I read into RVS more than most simply because it's the most awkward post in the game for scum. No strategy played out, little information, and the ability for anyone to run up a wagon on you at random makes it a tedious part for scum.In post 1808, Fire Assassin wrote:
I think its really weird, you jump in and say Batoru is scum for stuff in RVS (very limited info there), then when I ask you some thoughts on two different players. You say "theres so much information I can't just GIVE IT TO YOU NOW"In post 1807, Aj The Epic wrote:Yeah uhm let me download the few gigabytes of information in this thread straight to my brain and give you an analysis an hour after switching in.
You just proved you can make a read from little.
Why do you need to process everything from these two now?
Also, no rush. I just thought since you were very opinionated very early you formed reads pretty fast with very little info. Because thats what it appeared like to me.
Alright, I read it too fast and see that it was about who he gave the ability to, not Sondam's wagon. It was the same line so I assumed it was questioning THAT WAGON's potential hammer vote.In post 1809, BATORU wrote:
What? She worried about it in context of Dunnstral claiming a curse that made him hated, not about the actual hop on the wagon. She was saying whoever had the curse should claim so we don't think we're putting someone at L-1 when we're actually hammering. That had nothing to do with the Sondam wagon.
The problem isn't you using associate tells with the other flipped slots. It's you using associate tells with slots thathaven't flippedbecause apparently you think we're scum because Tama lacks confidence? What you're positing is absolutely ridiculous and it feels like you're just trying to swing things so that you don't have to lynch your buddy today because "well this person looked worse with BATORU who I scumread off that one RVS post". Then when they flip town, because we're town, you don't even need to re-evaluate on us because that was the "original" scumread. Like, atm to me it looks like you're trying to push back the lynch of a buddy by a day to secure a ML on town by drawing associates with us that you can keep your hands clean from later. Am I going crazy here?
~Ruko
"Lynch my buddy today". Alright. First issue, I've not read the thread. Unless you assume daytalk and us having discussed SPECIFICALLY that one person has kissed up to you more than the other, you're really grasping at straws. Secondly, I've given no push either way on it. In that case, you'd expect SOME action, regardless of WIFOM or not. Bus the buddy, give a read of town on them? Inaction normally doesn't befit scum bussing scum. There's always something to be done. Instead I'm just reading, and haven't given anything towards it.
Your entire basis holds no water unless there's some major amounts of communication happening really early on to my posting. And notice, neither one in question for the lynch would be on to fill me in?
8585590#p8585590]post 1810[/url], Not Chara"]'collect roles'? that claim has the effect of making no one want to target him. a bad way to collect roles. unless i'm misunderstanding your meaning.
has everyone posted today? i think we're still missing the recipient of Gamma's 'ping'.[/quote]
The way he worded it suggested that a NK would be deflected back, along with any other roles. It's a pseudo BP from the start. Secondly, anyone wondering about the legitimacy would poke at it with a non-vig (which most likely doesn't exist given what was said D1) role. Because the slot is non-compulsive, he could effectively hoard roles.-
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AlertIn post 1834, Sickofit1138 wrote:
what is the name of the spell. the exact name.In post 1831, Aj The Epic wrote:For reference, I did get Gamma's ping-
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In post 21, BATORU wrote:omg there are abilities like that? jeeze. Well it's not on Sondam so VOTE: sondam but please out to everyone ahead of time who you give that to so we don't accidentally hammer anyone.
This theme is really awesome and I'm going to try not to be a complete deadweight this time
-"tama"
predit: oh yeah you're right they would I'm dumb
Poke at someone's mind, temporarily letting them know you poked them. There are no other effects.In post 1844, pisskop wrote:
I have a neighborhood with SOI.In post 1839, Aj The Epic wrote:
AlertIn post 1834, Sickofit1138 wrote:
what is the name of the spell. the exact name.In post 1831, Aj The Epic wrote:For reference, I did get Gamma's ping
I told SOI the parphrase of ALERT.
Tell us now, your version of alert. paraphrase it-
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Yes, the slot was pinged the night before I replaced in. Sadly, the second ping that SHOULD'VE been sent to me last night was not. Imo that's a pretty scummy move, to keep that floating around where I could just secure and stop it.In post 2059, Not Chara wrote:quick clarification: was Aj ever pinged with alert?
tonally, BTD feels like scum here. but he hasn't said anything i disagree with, and apparently i'm bad at tone.-
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That's part of it. The rest of it is a bit of role specification speculation I have so I'm not really go around and share what I think I've found.In post 2172, Not Chara wrote:prod dodge, just in case.
Aj: is your comment about Sickofit slot being town because the power was apparently redirected onto them? and only scum would be redirecting and not claiming it, i would assume. or is there something i've missed?-
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My entire read right now on dreamralz is that I don't think Dunn had to bus him that early. I'm pretty much on the BTD6 wagon, but I'm trying to find something from Dunnstral elsewhere before committing.In post 2366, pisskop wrote:aj, drealz is scumnin it up and even using your scunresd on bat to omgus them-
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Did it work?pisskop wrote:as scum?
sometimes. i usually hardball one partner at some point.
when firebringer and i were a team i had him gladiate me in lylo
I mean I've played with you before when we were on the same team and I don't recall a needless bus. Then again we were kinda cooked for the majority of that game.-
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But it really isn't, unless you're claiming to not have a pure town read. Letting it go into Lylo just means that you're REQUIRED to double LYLO to win the game. Lynch scum today allows us to burn the MYLO no lynch tomorrow which forces scum to kill off a less-townread person (because they kill the one tonight that they would've killed in a no-lynch for Mylo.-
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