I told you guys I'd be here eventually!
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Have I missed any good partying and/or trolling?
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Hahaha!In post 697, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:We almost put a ball gag on Pine, it's been a hoot
Should have used a Venusaur instead of a Ninetails to ensure strong knots! Dat Vine WhipIn post 699, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Oh yeah, we got the cat nine tails and floggers but between you and I, Camn isn't exactly the best at making the knots tightIn post 698, Aristophanes wrote:Hahaha!In post 697, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:We almost put a ball gag on Pine, it's been a hoot
This is definitely my kind of party then!![]()
In post 703, camn wrote:My bloodthirst rises with postless hours, my friends.
I hope you are getting ready to tell me who PINE'S SCUMMY FRIENDS are.
The hell were you trying to type!?!?!?In post 704, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I mean, I'm waiting on Mastin -I Opisthobranchia (I'm keeping that there because autocorrect is hilarious)- to explain to me how blatantly saying I'm good at playing scum will help further a scum agenda.
Don't you worry, will bag 'em and tag 'em soon enough!In post 703, camn wrote:My bloodthirst rises with postless hours, my friends.
I hope you are getting ready to tell me who PINE'S SCUMMY FRIENDS are.
Lynching Nacho is so sad though.In post 746, Fate wrote:Mastin if you're guaranteeing Pine made optimal picks based on your meta knowledge of him then we need to lynch Nacho and no one but Nacho until Nachos dead
Nice mind games!In post 991, Pine wrote:I agree, lynching Nacho is sad. We should be listening more to him.
Nacho, who do you think is scum?
Sad but true.In post 998, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Ari can't play scum to save his life
I like your confidence, even if it is misguided lolIn post 1025, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:At this point we know Ari is 100% scum. There is no need not to vote this guy up. Mastin is town simple as that.
Or he just biffed hard when choosing. However, I find this 1v1 ridiculous. Likely a ploy to get rid of Nacho, then manipulate us into letting you live. Not buying it!In post 22, mastina wrote:Hey.
VOTE: Nachomamma8.
Dead serious here.
I'm entering in a 1v1 with Nacho.
Like. If he flips town POWER lynch me here.
I was informed that role assignment wasn't random this game.
Pine knows me to be a stellar scum player and not quite as strong a town player, yet I wasn't one of his picks for the scumteam.
But unless I massively misunderstood the game's nature: Pine did in fact get a choice in at least ONE scumbuddy, if not all three. (Something about a draft order.)
He didn't select me.
I refuse to believe he allowed both me and Nacho to be town.
So lynch me, lynch Nacho, doesn't matter who you lynch first but Nacho is scum.
Guaranteed.
This is probably 100% accurateIn post 24, Pine wrote:And honestly, if I could've had both of you, it would've made me hard as a rock.
Fuck though, this sounds sincere...In post 26, mastina wrote:was my original rival in games, presumably the reason why I didn't actually draw scum. (Which I'm taking as a huge fucking slight against me because he knows how much I would have wanted to be his scumbuddy here.) We fought endless times in games. He, along with Nacho, was one of my first friends upon his return to the site, in spite of him consistently creaming me in games where he drew mafia and I drew town. There's dozens of games spanning YEARS of history. Not one or two. Like, more games than y'all have played your entire mafia career on mafiascum, number of games.
Holy shit is this ever scum!!In post 72, mastina wrote:Also, I should probably mention that right now there's a softclaim or two I REALLY want to make--things that Pine wouldn't get, but at least one other player would. I can't give them yet, though, because one of said players in question would be Nacho. Who has a 50% chance of being conftown and a 50% chance of being confscum. I lean towards Pine picking Nacho first, but I don't know for sure. While in THEORY we could wait for nights to sort this out (when one dies via nightkill, lynch the other), but that might take a couple of night phases to actually happen by which point I'd probably be dead and that'd be less-than-ideal.
I think the simplest solution here is to just line up lynches. Lynch Nacho today. He flips town, you lynch me. I'll flip town, but then D3 you lynch Fate and 100% guarantee you, you'll have lynched scum.
He flips town, then while I'm not exactly conftown, Fate is. Any and all power we have should be directed towards keeping Fate alive at that point.
Saying this to Mastina is actually hilarious! Like, if anyone has a refined scumgame, it's Mastina!In post 126, drealmerz7 wrote:it's unfortunate your scum game isn't as refined, you should play more
Fluffing is when you beat it a bit to make it look bigger, no?In post 1065, camn wrote:Um...That's not what "fluffing" is, ifyouknowhatimean.
In post 1072, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:my dog
Why did I click this both times it came up on the page? Why!?!?In post 161, Monokuma wrote:In post 159, Nahdia wrote:Oh. And the takeaway from that whole spiel about Aeronaut which probably wasn't clear is that he's town.
In post 160, Nahdia wrote:What a post to slip on
This is a deadline for me to contribute, isn't it.
Yeah man, so many cool things!In post 1079, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Mainly yes, and I'm having fun learning how to do a bunch of cool stuff with all the little twitches you can do on your posts
If I do, it will be because I scumread them, not because you asked. Why would I trust you on a Mastina read on D1!?drealmerz7 wrote:we clearly have 2 scum wagons going
fate and mastina
can we please consolidate on mastina first
fate tomorrow is much easier than mastina tomorrow
trust me please
</3TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:unless someone daycops Mastina, I'm focusing on Pisskop/Ari slot right now.
In post 1088, Monokuma wrote:Keep clicking, we totally start using different videos later. Maybe. Probably!In post 1076, Aristophanes wrote:Why did I click this both times it came up on the page? Why!?!?In post 161, Monokuma wrote:In post 159, Nahdia wrote:Oh. And the takeaway from that whole spiel about Aeronaut which probably wasn't clear is that he's town.
In post 160, Nahdia wrote:What a post to slip on
GDI Nahdia! XD
It is somewhat. I interact to get myself into the game while reading. I probably won't quote/respond to many posts, but am mentally mapping my reads. The fluidity works better for me to gauge people's alignments, and the interactions make it a lot more fun being here!TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:It still feels a lot moreso of a social interaction than it does him scum hunting.In post 1087, SirCakez wrote:Ya now that Ari is providing content I'm really deadset on Mastina/Fate going today
Also, I'm not lynching out of 'fear'
In post 178, Vaxkiller wrote:If that were the case he would flip outIn post 157, pisskop wrote:VOTE: drealzIn post 145, Vaxkiller wrote:VOTE: Dreal
Scum is calling out his buddies?
I don't know if this is intended, but an over the top reaction which discredits the attacker but doesn't really address the argument is rather funny, and if unintended, maybe damning?In post 179, drealmerz7 wrote:vax has like 1 game with me where I was scum and he thinks he knows how I'd be
I CHANGE, I ADAPT
imagine
In post 290, Monokuma wrote:he's just spewing town out of every Poke-oriface he's got. It's kind of gross
In post 296, mastina wrote:In short
I'm fairly certain the second half of this post is sarcastic. Like, I'd bet on that. Did you not catch that or did I miss something else in my reading of it?In post 312, mastina wrote:Mafia exercise time.In post 276, Aeronaut wrote:And? I'm pretty sure that's what most of this game thinks, since it's you know, common sense.
Yep, I'm the only one who thinks we shouldn't let a game designed to fuck with us fuck with us, obviously. That's why nacho is the leading wagon, right?
This is a really fun one, I promise you.
Who here can spot the problematic nature of these two statements being placed back-to-back?
There's something very glaringly obvious in here. I could tell you at any time, but I want you to think for a sec, stretch your minds, and see if you're capable of figuring it out for yourselves.
Every post by Mastina has me thinking she
I'd be delighted! Lets see what you've got!In post 1100, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Aristophanes, I have a small but what I think is valid town case on mastin I'd like ya to have your input on.
This is quite interesting. Mastina sometimes will create a flaw in order for people to change their reads. It's a manipulative tool. I'm not seeing it in that way here, so I get what you're saying. If this were any other player, I'd be voting them right now, because they are showing such flaws in logic and understanding. But I know she doesn't work that way. Like, read our Scum thread from Inorganic Chemistry. She is meticulous. She exploits people's suspicions on herself and others. She is crafty AF!In post 1103, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:For a player like Mastin, this is what makes me think she's town.
In post 888, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:If I'm being 100% honest, you forgetting a point really makes me think you're town.
It sounds like one of the biggest bullshit reasons but you're a thorough player. If you're anything like me, you'd want to, as scum, to make sure the posts are absolutely perfect and you've made every point and there is no doubt or stone unturned that you haven't answered before it is asked. I sense the town because you're more nonchalant; as in the small mental stress of worrying about yourself and other people are not present to encourage you to make the post perfect.
You can see into the future!?In post 1115, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I enjoy working with you in the future
Chicago Style is best style!In post 424, Aeronaut wrote:chicago style sucks
In post 1122, mastina wrote:I suppose if you conned Vaxkiller into it, you'd have enough to have the lynch there when you add in three scumfucks, but the fact that it'll take all three scumfucks to lynch me should tell you something about how lynchable I am. (Hint: not very.)
Mastina, please reconsider these two statements.In post 224, mastina wrote:No, because I am insanely mislynchable as town. Like, ridiculously mislynchable as town. Like, I get mislynched more often than I live. Like, basically the only time I don't get mislynched is when I'm either nightkilled and/or conftown of some sort. You can push a wagon through on me if you wanted to. You also can't be lynched because fuck that, I'll fight every step of the way to keep you alive.Dreal wrote:I will likely direct efforts elsewhere since tunneling on you on D1 is about 100000x more likely to get me lynched more than you
When did you start scumreading me and why??In post 1124, mastina wrote:Or failing that, do Aristophanes.
Shoot, you definitely have told me this before! I read the whole story about your accounts (in the fairy thread I think?) And it was awesome!In post 1128, mastina wrote:Common misconception, but the proof is in the joindates that this isn't true.In post 1034, Aristophanes wrote:Oh lol Pine is the reason for Mastin2. That's awesome XD
If mastin2 was created because of Pine, then the joindate for that account would be spring of 2011, the date I misread Pine.
mastin2 was created on my one-year scumday, October 8th, 2009, before Pine had even signed up as a player on mafiascum.
That alone should show the evidence. There was always the intent for me to switch over to mastin2. There was always the intent for me to abandon the Mastin account. Pine gave me a convenient excuse to switch over, but it was going to happen sooner or later no matter what. He made it happen sooner, yes. That much of the story is true. But the idea that I switched to mastin2 because of the bet about Pine isn't true. It's a mafiascum urban legend.
I've gone over this in more detail before. Like, lots of times. Like here. And VERY thoroughly here. Probably elsewhere too.
reconsider = reconsileIn post 1125, Aristophanes wrote:In post 1122, mastina wrote:I suppose if you conned Vaxkiller into it, you'd have enough to have the lynch there when you add in three scumfucks, but the fact that it'll take all three scumfucks to lynch me should tell you something about how lynchable I am. (Hint: not very.)Mastina, please reconsider these two statements.In post 224, mastina wrote:No, because I am insanely mislynchable as town. Like, ridiculously mislynchable as town. Like, I get mislynched more often than I live. Like, basically the only time I don't get mislynched is when I'm either nightkilled and/or conftown of some sort. You can push a wagon through on me if you wanted to. You also can't be lynched because fuck that, I'll fight every step of the way to keep you alive.Dreal wrote:I will likely direct efforts elsewhere since tunneling on you on D1 is about 100000x more likely to get me lynched more than you
I feel so loves <3In post 1133, Pine wrote:We should really get back to lynching Ari, folks.
I mean, I'm working on it. The first 15 pages or so haven't given me very much, but I have reads forming.mastina wrote:(Okay so I suppose scumposting can still be considered content, just content that shows the player to be scum. That's what Aristophanes did.)
Senpai Noticed Me!!! =D
Oh my god, why did I not think of that!?In post 1163, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Back the fuck off my Senpine
Nooo! Stahp! XDTheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I am his Ginhai and no one will try to take my place
I meant Qui Gon Gin actually, but we'll done!In post 1166, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Don't you mean Obiwan Ginobi?
Honestly, I wrote that, said to myself "this will be construed as an Amished tell even though I'm just addressing the case above" and decided Fukit! Lets go!In post 1172, mastina wrote:But this right here? Original Amished tell in its finest form.
Right. I knew that. Forgot you have a hard on for an Aero lynch.In post 1172, mastina wrote:You're not.
I'm voting Aeronaut, who was not listed on that wall.
Secret Agent Jin is my tertiary suspect, and was not listed on that wall. (Jin, unlike the other two, remains purely a POE scumread.)
I don't have an agenda, but nice try.In post 1191, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Ari, what have you done that you would say furthered a town agenda?
k, np!In post 1207, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Just to be clear, I need reads by the end of this and who is scum and why.
Holy Shit, I thought you were Kain for a second! XDIn post 1217, Secret Agent Jin wrote:I am back from VLA and reading up, i am active again!
Actually, it was Not_Mafia's well before it was Kain's. I think Kuroi had it for a bit too!TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Even sporting that KainTaipes avatar
My team may win, but how often am I already dead in those games?In post 1225, BTD6_maker wrote:Also, you might say Ari is bad as scum. Ari himself might say that. Now look at his W/L record as scum on the wiki. You are probably assuming he is completely hopeless as scum and will lose practically all the time. This is false. He has a decent win rate as scum. You are both probably confirmation biased on that point (remembering scum losses rather than wins).
I hate the situation so much, but I absolutely agree with our fucking confirmed scum here...In post 1239, Pine wrote:Fate's reads ARE bad.
And that deception would have been brilliant, but it kind of defeats the point of the game.
What makes you a better lynch?In post 1293, Fate wrote:I'm a much better lynch than mastina for anyone who wants to switch and make somethign happen before deadline
also willing to flash wagon dreaamrez
In post 1313, Monokuma wrote:The claim, you fool! The CLAIM!
I am! Thank you so much Dreal! <3In post 1346, drealmerz7 wrote:ari, aren't you glad I'm not playing that way this game?!
it'd be like 4x as much content at least
So, just not worth reading is your verdict then?In post 1399, Prism wrote:I think people that aren't named mastina really need to look at what I'm actually saying here. I'm not saying I'm ignoring mastina out of laziness or that it's impossible to glean alignment from their posts. It's that whatever effort is expended doing that, I can likely get 2x-5x the payout from diverting it elsewhere. It's fundamentallynot worth it.
<3In post 1688, Nachomamma8 wrote:I always find it to be awkward to reading someone who replaced out - that can generally be a tip off to weird RL shit and so being underwhelming and disappearing generally isn't a scum tell for me. But Aristophanes isn't playing like town, which is a shame because it would be a disappointment if Pine lost his ringer and instead got Aristophanes (who I love very much but who also lurks like crazy like scum for some odd reason).In post 1684, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I forget if you gave thoughts on this but what do you think?
In post 998, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:First off, Pisskop was the beginning slot, he started out the game and continued the pattern of fluffing and frivolous shit posting. When he did post, there wasn't reasoning attached to it, all of them were baseless and were said to just be said.
It also doesn't help that the slot replacement, Ari can't play scum to save his life, in essence making it a suicide slot. The quotes I put in a spoiler, and really they are all his ISO, is literally no game contribution and doesn't address anyone game related.
Also a quick VCA is that scum will disperse their votes to hide in the crowd, so there will be 1/2 in the main wagons and 1/2 in a slot that's been voted once or they are the only vote. Now, looking at the babywagons that happened in D1, the beginning started with dreal and Fate.
Looking at that, Pisskop gave a weak reason which was really a hesitant question more than accusation and put his vote on dreal. The vote only moved from dreal to Fate and this occurred when Pisskop said, Fate was his top scum read, but again, there was no explanation attached to it, essentially making it a naked vote because it is knowingly implied that if you vote someone, it is because you think they are scum.
I am almost 100% confident that Pisskop has been staying off of the main wagons to avoid any serious attention and shitpost so you think to just ignore him.
VOTE: Aristophanes
But I do agree with you and mastina that his play looked like a caricature of his normal townplay and that nothing that he posted when he was here looked vaguely town.
Who is moving into your townbloc?In post 1698, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:2.5/3 we think he's town (I read him town all game until he voted me tbh but it DID make sense as to why he would say it the way he did, thanks Nachohence the .5)
I'm okay with moving into townbloc tbh.
I'm sure there is.In post 1704, Nachomamma8 wrote:1) PostIn post 1699, Aristophanes wrote:<3 I can't fault you for this read I guess. I'm still not scum though. I wish I could make people believe that.
2) Profit!!!
The great part about having a scumgame that people view as weak is that it's really really easy to shake bad reads off you.
We're talking about a lot of things here - is there anything that stands out to you? Is there anything you disagree with? Is there anything you want to talk about in particular?