Mini 1849 : DotA Mafia [R2 - SD] Game Over?!!

Titus · Post Post #2040 (isolation #0) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 8:10 pm

Hi. I am here. I don't know what I am doing yet.

VC please and unvote if voting

Titus · Post Post #2042 (isolation #1) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 8:23 pm

I am dumb and tired. Sorry.

Titus · Post Post #2051 (isolation #2) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:16 am

Looking at just the posts leonshade provided, the Vedith slot should be the lynch. There's very little reason for toen to hammer in the way Leon describes. The way it's structured, Vedith would get the mislynch he hammerred and my slot lynch before getting attention drawn to him.

Happy Holidays!

JaeReed, yup. I am scum. :-p

Titus · Post Post #2053 (isolation #3) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:46 am

Update the first post please with subs. Ty. Lu.

Who is Vedith slot?

Who would you lynch?

Titus · Post Post #2058 (isolation #4) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 6:29 am

In post 2056, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:
In post 2052, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:Na Titus Jae Dunn and me are my townblock unless Mathblade is the best scum player I've ever seen
I'd lynch Creature or Nat if I had the choice rn

Why?

Titus · Post Post #2060 (isolation #5) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 6:40 am

Is Leon incorrect in his hammer observations? If so, how? If not, why do you trust JaeReed?

Can you elaborate on Creature scum?

Titus · Post Post #2063 (isolation #6) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:56 am

That reaction does look genuine.

Titus · Post Post #2065 (isolation #7) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:27 am

Titus · Post Post #2068 (isolation #8) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:33 am

In post 2066, JaeReed wrote:
In post 2051, Titus wrote:Looking at just the posts leonshade provided, the Vedith slot should be the lynch. There's very little reason for toen to hammer in the way Leon describes. The way it's structured, Vedith would get the mislynch he hammerred and my slot lynch before getting attention drawn to him.

Happy Holidays!

JaeReed, yup. I am scum. :-p
Now I have to work through the wifom of whether you'd lie to me about your alignment as town. Not quite the response I wanted >.<

And I'm the Vedith slot, can guarantee I'm not scum.

How?

Titus · Post Post #2069 (isolation #9) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:34 am

In post 2067, JaeReed wrote:
In post 2065, Titus wrote:2061
ok....what reaction in particular in that slot are you referring to and why do you believe it could not have been manufactured?

The frustration w repetition

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:37 am

Context makes it so.

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:52 am

In post 2073, JaeReed wrote:Yeah, no.

VOTE: Titus

You were being truthful in saying you're scum.

I ask you: what scum would draw attention to themselves in the way my slot predec did by hammering the counterwagon to their top scumread? Especially when that person was House.
Meanwhile, all the players I respect think your slot was scum and somehow the slot never got lynched despite being run up/heavily scumread both days from what I can see.

So, you don't respect Sonia?

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:59 am

In post 2075, JaeReed wrote:
In post 2068, Titus wrote:
In post 2066, JaeReed wrote:
In post 2051, Titus wrote:Looking at just the posts leonshade provided, the Vedith slot should be the lynch. There's very little reason for toen to hammer in the way Leon describes. The way it's structured, Vedith would get the mislynch he hammerred and my slot lynch before getting attention drawn to him.

Happy Holidays!

JaeReed, yup. I am scum. :-p
Now I have to work through the wifom of whether you'd lie to me about your alignment as town. Not quite the response I wanted >.<

And I'm the Vedith slot, can guarantee I'm not scum.
How?
"I guarantee I'm not scum."

I don't know why you're asking how here unless you don't understand the meaning of the word. Which I am fairly sure you do.

No, you said you had some auto confirm town ability I thought...#nocluewhatIamdoing

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:10 pm

Sonia said she had me you and Dunn in a townblock...

Like really?

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:11 pm

In post 2078, JaeReed wrote:I'll play ball somewhat though. Titus, I meant of the players I know to be town. So the flipped Fire, and my slot's predecessors. Those are who I've read so far in full ISO.

List them please.

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:26 pm

In post 2081, JaeReed wrote:
In post 2052, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:Na Titus Jae Dunn and me are my townblock unless Mathblade is the best scum player I've ever seen
There's no punctuation here.

How I read this:
Na, Titus. Jae, Dunn and me are my townblock unless MathBlade is the best scum player I've ever seen.

Na. Titus Jae Dunn and me are my townblock....

?

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:27 pm

In post 2082, JaeReed wrote:
In post 2080, Titus wrote:
In post 2078, JaeReed wrote:I'll play ball somewhat though. Titus, I meant of the players I know to be town. So the flipped Fire, and my slot's predecessors. Those are who I've read so far in full ISO.
List them please.
First, tell me the relevance of this. What will this tell you?

This is a fluff request that leads nowhere from my pov.

Compare with lynch v nightkill to see a pattern there. You said it was the dead people, let's look deeper.

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:36 pm

Umm you're twisted? Are you saying we should lynch you?

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:44 pm

Dead town doesn't mean their reads were accurate. This just sounds like shading in another form and an excuse to lynch me. You immediately push me, after I come into the slot. You know I will not have read at all. So I become an easier push.

Titus · Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:57 pm

And why is that? Seriously.

All of what you said was true before I subbed in. Yet, you only push it after I show up.

@Creature, Let me be blunt, wtf are you doing?

Titus · Post Post #2103 (isolation #20) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:02 pm

In post 2098, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:Someone hammer this scum fk ty

Why? Shouldn't he claim first?

Titus · Post Post #2109 (isolation #21) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:04 pm

In post 2107, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:
In post 2103, Titus wrote:
In post 2098, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:Someone hammer this scum fk ty
Why? Shouldn't he claim first?
He did plus any claims in this type of game mode aren't really AI at all

What did he claim? Even in an open, behavior dictates alignment.

Titus · Post Post #2116 (isolation #22) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:07 pm

In post 2115, Creature wrote:Everyone claimed already, I got a list of claims, though if you have OCD better not check it.

That would help.

Titus · Post Post #2117 (isolation #23) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:08 pm

Sonia, are you claiming a guilty or something? Why the rush?

Titus · Post Post #2121 (isolation #24) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:10 pm

Mods: Can I have my stuff in text form?

Titus · Post Post #2122 (isolation #25) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:12 pm

Dunn, why are you jumping around so much?

Titus · Post Post #2126 (isolation #26) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:14 pm

Why are you defending Dunn? I asked Dunn to try to read him. It's hard enough to play when half your role pm is cut off so you're afraid to do anything.

Titus · Post Post #2128 (isolation #27) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:16 pm

Well you're stopping me from scumhunting. You should know this. Your play these past few pages is as if you're trying to get me to vote you.

Titus · Post Post #2131 (isolation #28) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:19 pm

Now the shade.

Fuck this noise.

VOTE: Creature

Titus · Post Post #2156 (isolation #29) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 2:03 pm

I have been here for all of 5 minutes. That BoP is rank.

Titus · Post Post #2161 (isolation #30) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 2:37 pm

In post 2157, Dunnstral wrote:BoP?

Burden of Proficency.

Creature is expecting automatic reads with ijn an hour of my appearance and zero interactions.

Titus · Post Post #2165 (isolation #31) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 2:47 pm

Why? Should i think he's town?

Titus · Post Post #2166 (isolation #32) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 2:47 pm

No..Dunn unvoted before I voted I think

Titus · Post Post #2191 (isolation #33) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:41 pm

Why Nahdia?

Titus · Post Post #2193 (isolation #34) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:45 pm

Well as someone who has no idea how you're reaching that conclusion, lay it out for me.

Titus · Post Post #2197 (isolation #35) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:53 pm

Nahdia, the mod hasn't sent me a text version? Can you tell me my role(s).

Titus · Post Post #2205 (isolation #36) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:16 pm

Nahdia, I am windranger. Why u lie?

Titus · Post Post #2206 (isolation #37) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:16 pm

In post 2203, JaeReed wrote:
In post 2198, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:UNVOTE:
Do you think nat is town jae
Don't know, don't care. I'll look at associations over the night phase after Titus flips mafia, which she will. I am completely confident that Titus is mafia and after that we can work things out from there with associatives. The way I see it the partner can either be you or nat. I don't want 2 scum going into the next phase, so we lynch the one I am confident is actually mafia then argue it out tomorrow, ok?

I wanna mislynch Titus.

Titus · Post Post #2214 (isolation #38) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:23 pm

Hey Sonia, what would you do if I randomly hugged you?

Titus · Post Post #2216 (isolation #39) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:56 pm

Ok, I was beginning tonget concerned you were just jumping to whatever anyone was saying.

Titus · Post Post #2219 (isolation #40) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:12 pm

Was this slot just a preordained mislynch since LLD subbed out?

Titus · Post Post #2224 (isolation #41) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:23 pm

Ok, which one of you fuckers is afraid of getting two votes on them tomorrow?

Titus · Post Post #2228 (isolation #42) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:32 pm

In post 2226, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 2121, Titus wrote:
Mods: Can I have my stuff in text form?

I was sleeping. do you still need this?

Yes, with all prior results/feedback

Titus · Post Post #2230 (isolation #43) » Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:45 pm

This. I don't hold it against JaeReed that they are scumreading me right now.

Game stays in game. Don't insult the player, insult the play.

Titus · Post Post #2233 (isolation #44) » Sat Dec 24, 2016 7:02 pm

limited access tomorrow

Titus · Post Post #2240 (isolation #45) » Sun Dec 25, 2016 7:18 pm

In post 2239, JaeReed wrote:Oh i did, on the same page even. I'll get to this when I'm not hungover, so probably tomorrow

Baaaaah

Titus · Post Post #2241 (isolation #46) » Sun Dec 25, 2016 7:18 pm

Ask me dumb stuff i am drunk

Titus · Post Post #2289 (isolation #47) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:18 pm

Wow, one day off in the real world and at l minus 1 again?

Can someone get me my wagons?

Titus · Post Post #2293 (isolation #48) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 4:23 am

I looked at both my wagons. Creature/Leonshade were both the other options. They both put me at l minus 1. No one trs creature. Let's do this.

Titus · Post Post #2296 (isolation #49) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 4:44 am

In post 2294, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:The only thing that made Creature even worthy a non lynch was his reaction to hammers

Yeah, totally fakable. That's why I haven't unvoted.

Titus · Post Post #2304 (isolation #50) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 4:50 am

In post 2297, JaeReed wrote:What do you think about Creature's reaction to his wagon earlier where he thought he'd been hammered? I thought he was too so... :/ I can't see him continuing to scumhunt after his hammer as scum tbh rather than shitposting.

Totally fakeable.

I have a rule regarding this. It's called play to the flip. I only deviate in very rare instances.

Titus · Post Post #2316 (isolation #51) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 5:06 am

In post 2314, Creature wrote:Still think scum are just in {Nahdia, Sonia, Titus} and the scum inside it are trying to expand the pool.

You mispelled Creature Leonshade Dunn.

Titus · Post Post #2318 (isolation #52) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 5:09 am

In post 2307, JaeReed wrote:@Titus Walk me thru how it's fakeable vs real? I felt like he continued to scumhunt and was trying to push people to listen to him post flip rather than trying to make ppl think he was town.

There is no such thing as obvtown because scumhunting post flip. There is no fakable versus real.

What's the best way to make people think you're town? Do content while knoeing a fake hammer in place if the newbies do not play to the flip.

Titus · Post Post #2327 (isolation #53) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 5:13 am

In post 2322, JaeReed wrote:
In post 2318, Titus wrote:
In post 2307, JaeReed wrote:@Titus Walk me thru how it's fakeable vs real? I felt like he continued to scumhunt and was trying to push people to listen to him post flip rather than trying to make ppl think he was town.
There is no such thing as obvtown because scumhunting post flip. There is no fakable versus real.

What's the best way to make people think you're town? Do content while knoeing a fake hammer in place if the newbies do not play to the flip.
From an emotional standpoint I do not believe that was faked emotionally. I know I might be wrong. I feel this. I think Sonia does too and I believe her to be someone who is both highly emotional herself and in tune with others emotions (I do believe the two come hand in hand and I believe that's why she should be able to pick Nahdia's emotions here are fake too)

This is why town suck.

AtE this. AtE that.

You are even presenting a logical inconsistency in your own posts.

Titus · Post Post #2330 (isolation #54) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 5:14 am

In post 2324, JaeReed wrote:
In post 14, Creature wrote:Okay, xSoniaNevermindx usually replaces in scum slots.

VOTE: SoniaNevermind
This isn't a scum RVS ftr.

Ffs that's ridiculously scum.

3 times Titus is always scum.

*scum rvs voted me*

Titus · Post Post #2332 (isolation #55) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 5:15 am

In post 2331, JaeReed wrote:@Titus why do you think Nahdia is town?

PoE + Survival vote

Creature and Leon has one vote

Dunn keeps dancing like shit

So Nahdia must be town, so must you

Titus · Post Post #2333 (isolation #56) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 5:16 am

*one vote = one scum

Titus · Post Post #2336 (isolation #57) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 5:19 am

In post 2335, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:The reason I remember tring Titus is because Math said
:LLD either scumclaimed with Vedith or she's VERY town
something happened in your guys PT soooo

If this is true, Math slot probably town.

Who is that?

Titus · Post Post #2341 (isolation #58) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 5:22 am

In post 2338, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:
In post 2336, Titus wrote:
In post 2335, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:The reason I remember tring Titus is because Math said
:LLD either scumclaimed with Vedith or she's VERY town
something happened in your guys PT soooo
If this is true, Math slot probably town.

Who is that?
Have you not read your PT you shouldn't need to be like "if this is true" when you can read it for yourself

I almost never read on sub in. Compulsive roles and docs being main exceptions.

Titus · Post Post #2343 (isolation #59) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 5:23 am

In post 2337, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:I'm pretty sure if I can get a lock read on Dunn's alignment the teams show themselves rather nicely
aka
Nat/Titus or Creature/Leon

Math slot is Dunn

? Wouldn't Dunn be town in both those scenarios?

Titus · Post Post #2354 (isolation #60) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 5:28 am

Well then we can just lynch Creature and steamroll this if our thinking is right.

Titus · Post Post #2358 (isolation #61) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 5:31 am

In post 2355, JaeReed wrote:Creature is town.

Wrong, but Leon lynch also should steamroll.

Titus · Post Post #2359 (isolation #62) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 5:31 am

The order doesn't matter.

Titus · Post Post #2381 (isolation #63) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 5:46 am

In post 2380, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:Btw Jae
Math said in your PT LLD did something that almost made her scumclaim with Leon or shes pro town
you don't have to tell me what that is but reading through your PT do you know what math means?

You got any idea when I am looking? Parsing Math logic is hard enough.

Titus · Post Post #2389 (isolation #64) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 5:50 am

So... control F glyph?

I am a little slow bc sick and working.

Spoiler: Jae

Titus · Post Post #2410 (isolation #65) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 6:05 am

In post 2409, JaeReed wrote:I'm just thinking that Math would 100% jump on that as a slip. I can't see Math as town doing otherwise. They are frustrating to a fault.

They were townreading before the "slip". It's more likely they were frustrating to a fault and did cartwheels to maintain their read.

Titus · Post Post #2411 (isolation #66) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 6:08 am

Leon, you got thoughts?

Titus · Post Post #2415 (isolation #67) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 6:12 am

In post 2412, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:Why would Math tr LLD so hard for saying "are we gotta submit a kill"
o-o That's my question

Because LLD mindfucks well. LLD loves reaction testing etc. Lld is town.

Lld was super serious in Machina mafia and was scum.

Math had a TR prior to the "submit a kill". So, they do gymnastics to maintain reads. Math has the most static reads ever, regardless of alignment.

Titus · Post Post #2417 (isolation #68) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 6:16 am

In post 2416, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:
In post 2415, Titus wrote:
In post 2412, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:Why would Math tr LLD so hard for saying "are we gotta submit a kill"
o-o That's my question
Because LLD mindfucks well. LLD loves reaction testing etc. Lld is town.

Lld was super serious in Machina mafia and was scum.

Math had a TR prior to the "submit a kill". So, they do gymnastics to maintain reads. Math has the most static reads ever, regardless of alignment.
I was about to be like oh okay that prob makes lld town and then I forgot you're lld slot -_-

You can look at Machina Mafia separate from what I say though. It's meta but it's personality rather than play, so it limits the farts.

Titus · Post Post #2421 (isolation #69) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 6:21 am

In post 2419, JaeReed wrote:
In post 2417, Titus wrote:
In post 2416, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:
In post 2415, Titus wrote:
In post 2412, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:Why would Math tr LLD so hard for saying "are we gotta submit a kill"
o-o That's my question
Because LLD mindfucks well. LLD loves reaction testing etc. Lld is town.

Lld was super serious in Machina mafia and was scum.

Math had a TR prior to the "submit a kill". So, they do gymnastics to maintain reads. Math has the most static reads ever, regardless of alignment.
I was about to be like oh okay that prob makes lld town and then I forgot you're lld slot -_-
You can look at Machina Mafia separate from what I say though. It's meta but it's personality rather than play, so it limits the farts.
From someone who dislikes meta this bugs me in a way that I can't really articulate.

Understood, but it's the only thing I can do that isn't a circle vouch.

Titus · Post Post #2424 (isolation #70) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 6:22 am

In post 2422, JaeReed wrote:Like, the fact that I've brought up meta as a personality over anything thing with dun's votehopping I think it was and you said you don't care about meta?

I don't generally. Like I have told you before. Minor personality tells can suggest alignment. Tool usage is major farts.

Titus · Post Post #2435 (isolation #71) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 6:26 am

In post 2430, JaeReed wrote:
In post 2424, Titus wrote:
In post 2422, JaeReed wrote:Like, the fact that I've brought up meta as a personality over anything thing with dun's votehopping I think it was and you said you don't care about meta?
I don't generally. Like I have told you before. Minor personality tells can suggest alignment. Tool usage is major farts.
Except you don't discount Dunn's vote hopping despite someone who has played with him many many times telling you it's NAI.

Yet....you're not voting him. Why?

Because this is farts.

Vote hopping = tool usage

I know Math. Math is the most stubborn prideful person ever. They'll jump on anything to know something and never change. Math "knew" LLD was town. So they justified it by stretches of logic.

Titus · Post Post #2436 (isolation #72) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 6:27 am

In post 2434, JaeReed wrote:that's
what
I'm
getting
at

It's tortured Math town.

It makes no sense because Math necer ever ever reconsiders geadually. They confbias.

Titus · Post Post #2440 (isolation #73) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 6:28 am

In post 2437, Creature wrote:How accurate is "they"?

They is Math's pronoun. ? I fuck up and say she from time to time.

Titus · Post Post #2443 (isolation #74) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 6:29 am

In post 2438, Leonshade wrote:Why would Math consider it necessary to hide that anyway?

Scum. Math justified it as a test. Math never redoes reads.

It was just LLD trolling.

Titus · Post Post #2445 (isolation #75) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 6:30 am

In post 2442, JaeReed wrote:
In post 2435, Titus wrote:
In post 2430, JaeReed wrote:
In post 2424, Titus wrote:
In post 2422, JaeReed wrote:Like, the fact that I've brought up meta as a personality over anything thing with dun's votehopping I think it was and you said you don't care about meta?
I don't generally. Like I have told you before. Minor personality tells can suggest alignment. Tool usage is major farts.
Except you don't discount Dunn's vote hopping despite someone who has played with him many many times telling you it's NAI.

Yet....you're not voting him. Why?
Because this is farts.

Vote hopping = tool usage

I know Math. Math is the most stubborn prideful person ever. They'll jump on anything to know something and never change. Math "knew" LLD was town. So they justified it by stretches of logic.
I know this is bullshit. You just basically said VCA is farts.

You do VCA all the time and wagon analysis all the time. You just discredited yourself. Why? I can't see a reason for town Titus to ever discredit her own tools.

Meta? Yeah, I can see town Titus discrediting that. VCA? Never. Town Titus believes votes don't lie.

Titus/Dunnstral?

That's not what I said.

Meta tool usage is farts.

VCA is looking at the social psychology of players.

Titus · Post Post #2448 (isolation #76) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 6:36 am

In post 2447, JaeReed wrote:
In post 2445, Titus wrote:That's not what I said.

Meta tool usage is farts.

VCA is looking at the social psychology of players.
And if someone is a flaky voter ALL the time regardless of alignment? I have played with Dunnstral quite a lot as us both town, and him as scum, and him as 3rd party (cult leader). Every time his votes have been all over the place. He is an adaptive player. I tell you this and you refute it. But you don't vote him, nor do you vote me, who if you are following the vote count, you should imo.

Right. It's HOW Dunn's votes flake that tells his story. Right now, I have him as maybe scum but one of Creature/Leonshade must be.

Titus · Post Post #2449 (isolation #77) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 6:36 am

The how requires situational analysis, and that is vca.

Titus · Post Post #2452 (isolation #78) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 6:39 am

In post 2451, JaeReed wrote:Why did you drop the SR on me?

You would have hammerred me ages ago.

Titus · Post Post #2456 (isolation #79) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 7:09 am

Will take a look in the next day or so.

Titus · Post Post #2458 (isolation #80) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 7:18 am

In post 2457, JaeReed wrote:There is like one or two days left and you're in danger of being hammered before you cna look at it :/

Yeah, well I have a buisness to run and a good vca takes several hours.

If town hammers me anyway, we deserve to love given the obvious scuminess of Creature/Leon.

Titus · Post Post #2460 (isolation #81) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 7:30 am

In post 2459, JaeReed wrote:How are they obvious though? That's what I don't get.

My wagon. I am town. They both have essentially voteparked me, while shading every other person other than themselves.

Titus · Post Post #2462 (isolation #82) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 7:39 am

Because they cannot get a mislynch on you.

Titus · Post Post #2464 (isolation #83) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 7:45 am

In post 2463, JaeReed wrote:Why do you think they can't get a mislynch on me? Nahdia refuses to read me, you were scumreading me due to my predecessor, and the two remaining votes would be in them.

No one scumreads you. I was scumreading you mistakenly due to your entrance + investigating Leon's shade. I backed off when you explained why you cut me off.

Titus · Post Post #2476 (isolation #84) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:34 pm

In post 2466, JaeReed wrote:@Titus you think Creature/Leon is the team?

@Nahdia and your conclusion from reading me?

Almost certainly.

VOTE: Leonshade

Titus · Post Post #2482 (isolation #85) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:44 pm

In post 2477, JaeReed wrote:You realize I am 100% going to tunnel you to a lynch if Leon doesn't flip scum here, right?

He should flip scum. My pool is Creature/Leon, and heaven forbid I am wrong, the other/Dunn. I am not bet the games level, but if that's the only way to lynch scum, well it is what it is.

Titus · Post Post #2530 (isolation #86) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 4:25 pm

In post 2493, Dunnstral wrote:What if the scum team is sonia and jaereed

Then why am i not a corpse?

Titus · Post Post #2532 (isolation #87) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 4:43 pm

In post 2531, Dunnstral wrote:I don't actually think that configuration is likely, but what do you mean?

They eould have hammerred me ages ago.

Titus · Post Post #2535 (isolation #88) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 4:48 pm

In post 2534, Dunnstral wrote:I could have hammered both Creature and Titus so if they're both town...?

Yeah. Exactly but I don't think you could have hammerred Creature without getting heat.

Titus · Post Post #2547 (isolation #89) » Wed Dec 28, 2016 2:21 pm

I am willing to vote Creature or Leonshade. Period.

Titus · Post Post #2549 (isolation #90) » Wed Dec 28, 2016 4:56 pm

In post 2548, JaeReed wrote:So I guess you're not doing the vca?

I can try to do it now. It will be more rushed than I prefer, and I will have to redo it at start of day (assuming I live) but i can.

Titus · Post Post #2550 (isolation #91) » Wed Dec 28, 2016 4:57 pm

Damn it. Where are the post counts?

Titus · Post Post #2552 (isolation #92) » Wed Dec 28, 2016 4:59 pm

Ty. All vcs in post above this one for vca.

Another keyword in case i lose it again.

Titus · Post Post #2556 (isolation #93) » Wed Dec 28, 2016 5:24 pm

Ok, quick and dirty version

Day 1, there were lots of little wagons, but none on Creature and Leonshade. Creature and Leonshade seem heavily in OMGUS defense move, as demonstrated by 1.2 and throughout. They are collectively passive, sheeping whatever is not them. Creature has tunnelled the Sonia slot for a good chunk of the game, only arguing for me/Nahdia when it's clear that Sonia is unlikely to be mislynched. Creature and Leon collectively have thrown a lot of shade at posts that likely have nightkill immunity and bp issues. Why? Because murdering someone who is bp/commuted is hard for scum.

Titus · Post Post #2557 (isolation #94) » Wed Dec 28, 2016 5:25 pm

I still need to source that and verify context.

Titus · Post Post #2580 (isolation #95) » Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:58 pm

In post 2568, JaeReed wrote::/

VOTE: Leon

Ty. Creature lynch tomorrow and we win.

Titus · Post Post #2611 (isolation #96) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:54 am

What is Fade Bolt and why are we directing it if it can fuck with the NK?

Titus · Post Post #2614 (isolation #97) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 1:33 pm

In post 2612, Creature wrote:It's sort of a watcher role, except that instead of me receiving info on who visited my target, it makes the visitors voteless for 48 hours.

So, you're announcing you're camping on Dunn...

Shit...Leon's town isn't he and just having a dumb game? Dunn's your buddy isn't he?

Fuuuck.

Titus · Post Post #2622 (isolation #98) » Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:20 pm

So that's the play..you and Creature no kill so you can then claim Nahdia and I failed to kill anyone. You're good but I am better. The humble brag slip burns many.

Titus · Post Post #2638 (isolation #99) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 7:42 pm

Umm, I dunno how Dunn was disabled. I was meaning to test if Sonia commented...

Misunderstanding?

Titus · Sat Dec 31, 2016 7:46 pm

I used Shakleshot on Sonia, expecting it to fail. That confirms Sonia commuted. Creature and Dunn we're going to no kill to frame Nahdia and I anyway...

So Dunn being voteless makes no sense

A commuter cannot have visitors...

Titus · Sat Dec 31, 2016 7:48 pm

I was supposed to fail and confirm Sonia...

Titus · Sat Dec 31, 2016 7:49 pm

In post 2643, JaeReed wrote:Sonia can't commute. I commute.

I thought you were the bp...

Well, we know someone visited Sonia...

Titus · Sat Dec 31, 2016 7:51 pm

I thought my role would block Sonia if anyone visited

I suck.

Titus · Sat Dec 31, 2016 7:52 pm

In post 2651, Titus wrote:I thought my role would block Sonia if anyone visited

I suck.

Vote block

Titus · Sat Dec 31, 2016 7:56 pm

In post 2654, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2651, Titus wrote:I thought my role would block Sonia if anyone visited
Uh scum slip? I thought the scum team was me and creature, as you were saying in dire? Why were you trying to block sonia's vote?

Nope. I was trying to prove Sonia town but confirm Sonia as scum if wrong.

If my voteblock only worked if Sonia had a visitor, then Sonia commuting means my ability fails. Thus Sonia honest.

If Sonia was vote blocked, then she didn't commute. Thus, probably scum.

Yet, I had my targets backwards and wound up proving you visited Sonia.

Titus · Sat Dec 31, 2016 8:04 pm

In post 2656, JaeReed wrote:Lol this is pure bullshit ^ why would me commuting have meant anything? It doesn't.

Anyone commuting cannot be targeted by actions.

Titus · Sat Dec 31, 2016 8:14 pm

In post 2659, JaeReed wrote:
In post 2657, Titus wrote:
In post 2656, JaeReed wrote:Lol this is pure bullshit ^ why would me commuting have meant anything? It doesn't.
Anyone commuting cannot be targeted by actions.
And?

I say again, me not commuting last night means jack diddly about my alignment. Your stated reasoning for shackleshot on Sonia doesn't make logical sense.

It does though. If a player commutes, it shows they are not lying about actions or PMs.

Titus · Sat Dec 31, 2016 8:15 pm

In post 2660, JaeReed wrote:Creature is town. Nahdia is the most obvious scum, so we lynch her today. Titus tomorrow, and Dunnstral the day after if it goes that long. That's game solved. Nahdia is either scum with Titus or Dunnstral.

You have just signed our death warrant. I will never vote Nahdia.

Titus · Sat Dec 31, 2016 8:16 pm

In post 2664, Dunnstral wrote:^but jaereed lied about commuting

Then I would be able to use it to force your hand. Either way, it's wifom now.

Titus · Sat Dec 31, 2016 8:21 pm

In post 2668, JaeReed wrote:Because you're their partner.

No. it's because it is Creature Dunn.

You have the evidence that Dunn blocked Sonia, although not deliberate.

Creature and Dunn no killed to frame Nahdia and if I showed Nahdia was town, Dunn argues Sonia was blocked.

Two mislynches right there.

Titus · Sat Dec 31, 2016 8:27 pm

In post 2670, JaeReed wrote:
In post 2661, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2660, JaeReed wrote:and Dunnstral the day after
1. I'm town
2. If we don't lynch bot hscum in a row we lose so this third lynch isn't happening

eh yeah you're right

either way, team is v likely nahdia/titus and I'm willing to bet the game on nahdia scum.

What if I could convince you I was town?

VOTE: Dunn

Titus · Sat Dec 31, 2016 8:30 pm

In post 2673, JaeReed wrote:You can't.

Then, I am praying for scum morons.

Titus · Sat Dec 31, 2016 8:43 pm

You cannot mislynch Nahdia today without Creature scum, so is there harm in hearing me out?

Titus · Sat Dec 31, 2016 8:49 pm

In post 2678, JaeReed wrote:Creature town
I'm town
Sonia town
Dunnstral has no vote
I need you to bus your partner and try to wifom it tomorrow, if you have no interest in bussing Nahdia then I will just vote park til we no lynch and autovote Nahdia in lylo.

Or you could actually communicate and I could show you why Nahdia is town?

If you're that dead set, I do not want to wait 20000 days just to have the result be the same.

Titus · Sat Dec 31, 2016 8:50 pm

In post 2680, JaeReed wrote:The harm in hearing you out is that you're charismatic and I'm easily manipulated and you know that.

Yeah, I see a zero percent chance of this. Did I fool you the last game? Nope.

Titus · Sat Dec 31, 2016 8:53 pm

In post 2685, JaeReed wrote:Why did you push Leonshade yesterday to the lynch over Creature if Creature was always going to be your scumread?

They both were.

It was Creature AND Leon. If either failed, Dunn had to be the partner.

Anyone else hammers.

Titus · Sat Dec 31, 2016 8:53 pm

I went with who I could get out of Creature/Leon. I sat on Creature for ages.

Titus · Sat Dec 31, 2016 8:58 pm

In post 2688, JaeReed wrote:Why are you townreading Nahdia after that god awful run of twilight posting

Why did you not consider you might be wrong on Creature after this reaction to what was thought to be a hammer

Why would Creature and Dunn's awful boasting cause an sr on Nahdia?

Faked. I did consider it. VCA trumps.

Titus · Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:14 pm

UNVOTE:

You and Sonia figure out what you want.

Titus · Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:15 pm

I need sleep

Titus · Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:41 pm

I did.

I need you to tell me where you went wrong so I can fix it.

Titus · Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:42 pm

I am off to bed. Happy New Year!

Titus · Sun Jan 01, 2017 8:11 am

Sonia, are you hellbent on Nahdia scum?

Titus · Sun Jan 01, 2017 9:46 am

Do you feel Creature Dunn is possible?

Titus · Sun Jan 01, 2017 10:16 am

Never read em.

Titus · Sun Jan 01, 2017 12:35 pm

In post 2731, JaeReed wrote:The thing is I thought Dunn couldn't vote because of creature, which is only 48 hours.

How did you know it was because of Titus ability instead?

We should wait this out. I didn't think anyone is dumb enough to leave a signature to do that. Let's verify the scum block was used.

This whole town needing to agree puts me in a rock and a hard place.

I am pretty sure it's creature and Dunn, but if no one will lynch Creature, it's a long slog towards the inevitable.

Titus · Sun Jan 01, 2017 6:21 pm

JaeReed, sell me on Nahdia/Dunn. Give me a plausible town reason for Creature and Dunn to advertise no kill. Give me a reason for town Creature to try to push a lynch while TRing Dunn.

I am trying, but I cannot see it.

Basically, I have to get you to lynch Creature or you have to convince me to vlvote Nahdia or one of us must gamethrow to have any chance at winning.

We have reached an impasse where all town must agree.

We can prove basically that Nahdia and I likely share an alignment today though maybe.

Titus · Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:39 am

In post 2743, JaeReed wrote:Casing isn't really a strong point of mine. I don't know if I'll even get the time to try given it's the holidays and my family situation is less than ideal because of it.

Well, then I guess we're in a holding pattern.

If you three trust me or insist it's Nahdia/me, the proper play is to vote and prove it.

A no hammer proves that Nahdia and I are likely the sane alignment (or she's scum with me town). Dunn cannot hammer Nahdia.

If you somehow think I am scum with someone other than Nahdia, then this doesn't work.

Given we cannot talk substance, this is the closest thing I can think of to move the game along. :/

Titus · Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:05 pm

Hi....

Titus · Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:56 pm

JaeReed, have you sorted town flail from scum flail, because I still think Creature and Dunn are scums.

If you are stubborn, voting while Dunn is locked is best. We can learn things.

Titus · Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:57 pm

*voting Nahdia

Titus · Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:07 pm

VOTE: Nahdia

That's it. This is done. I am supposing I am the idiot.

Titus · Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:09 pm

UNVOTE:

Ok, we want another replacement into a slot you are just going to lynch JaeReed? What's the point?

Titus · Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:10 pm

VOTE: Creature

Nahdia, let's do this.

Titus · Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:37 pm

The only way a blitz could happen is Sonia +Nahdia.

Yet you push Sonia + Me. Your Nahdia scumread has vanished now that Nahdia is getting replaced.

Titus · Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:39 pm

So what do you think?

Titus · Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:46 pm

Sonia scum seems out of left field. Why Sonia scum?

Titus · Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:06 pm

In post 2786, Creature wrote:I wonder if Titus thought 3 votes were needed to lynch and decided to blitz Nahdia and me.

Nice shade.

Titus · Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:12 pm

Dunn cannot vote. Sonia's likely town but that's a fake bus.

Titus · Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:30 pm

@Jae, I do.

@FF, This is an open setup.

Titus · Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:54 pm

In post 2818, JaeReed wrote:
In post 2556, Titus wrote:Ok, quick and dirty version

Day 1, there were lots of little wagons, but none on Creature and Leonshade. Creature and Leonshade seem heavily in OMGUS defense move, as demonstrated by 1.2 and throughout. They are collectively passive, sheeping whatever is not them. Creature has tunnelled the Sonia slot for a good chunk of the game, only arguing for me/Nahdia when it's clear that Sonia is unlikely to be mislynched. Creature and Leon collectively have thrown a lot of shade at posts that likely have nightkill immunity and bp issues. Why? Because murdering someone who is bp/commuted is hard for scum.
Leon was town.

Yes. That is why Creature and Dunn is the answer.

Titus · Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:02 pm

Ff, you got any questions for me?

Titus · Fri Jan 06, 2017 5:35 am

Sure I would Jae. I don't care which of Creature/Dunn flips, as long as we get one.

Titus · Fri Jan 06, 2017 8:48 pm

I'll be busy most of tomorrow.

Titus · Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:18 pm

VOTE: Dunn

Titus · Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:31 pm

No lynch is acceptable if I cannot get Creature/Dunn lynch

Titus · Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:45 pm

No, but I think I have the game solved.

If anyone has doubt, they should no lynch.

Titus · Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:08 pm

In post 2861, Formerfish wrote:And you want Dunn hung, right?

Creature or Dunn.

Titus · Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:21 pm

I can hopefully explain in detail tomorrow but tldr wagon analysis.

Titus · Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:54 pm

Ok, we are no lynching I take it.

I can't lynch Creature or Dunn without you, so that means we no lynch today.

VOTE: No Lynch

Titus · Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:54 am

Mod, we have 3 phases of no death, correct? So if we no lynch, the scumteam must make a kill or everyone loses?

Titus · Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:54 am

If my math is correct, no lynch is optimal. If my math is wrong, we lynch.

Titus · Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:58 am

VOTE: No lynch

Talking is bad here. The scumteam must kill or they lose. My scumreads are patently obvious imo.

Titus · Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:24 am

Activate Windrun if I can

Otherwise, GG. Good job Dunn and Creature.

Titus · Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:26 am

I was lynched in all of five minutes in normal sleeping hours...really guys...

Titus · Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:06 pm

In post 2962, Formerfish wrote:Why is there a twilight period?

Someone can save me to fry you.

Titus · Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:22 pm

I would not have killed creature but you. My narrative was Creature/Dunn. Killing Creature at that point did nothing. As long as the narrative was ff/me or Creature/Dunn, we were fine no matter the lynch.

Titus · Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:13 pm

In post 3026, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 3025, Dunnstral wrote:What happened to you
I had a bad time with a player in another game, crossed a line I shouldn't have, got a 2 week ban. It was deserved, I definitely crossed the line.

For what it's worth, I hope I did your slot justice. I fear your scumgame the most of anyone. I generally am impervious to most as town but you still make me play like a newbie.