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sounds like chick is challenging your meta thoIn post 56, mozamis wrote:already explained it in the previous post. It was a gut, instintive read based on meta. No biggy.
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In post 82, Backhand wrote:VOTE: desperado
Two posts, one random vote and one just repeating a point chick already made. Seems like blending in.-
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???In post 216, Chickadee wrote:Desperado - Defended me, but it looks like it was just something to do rather than a real stance. The only time I've played with him we were both town and I was horrendously wrong at reading him. So I'm gonna give this one some time.-
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none of these things are related, hence my confusionIn post 221, Chickadee wrote:I'm really not clicking with you Desp. You vote me, then defend the point I was making, then say you're fine with where your vote is. What about that warrants '???'?-
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in my experience scum don't play this way, what you've described is much more likely to come from townIn post 291, Almost50 wrote:Also, you vote hopping between Chicka, Vax and Moz looks like you're looking for something to stick.
same with the reaction test, not a scum move
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did you read his reaction to all of that?In post 301, mozamis wrote:
why the vote for Dannyboy though?In post 296, Desperado wrote:VOTE: iDanyBoy
A lot of other people voted for Vecna, why Danny?-
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In post 320, mozamis wrote:i didnt say he was scum, i said he was in my scum pool.
Thanks for the misrep, though.-
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i voted him because he had the scummiest reaction to what just happenedIn post 322, mozamis wrote:why did you vote for him though? Lots of bad votes, why him?
personally i reckon you are bussing. You know vecna will flip town, you get paranoid about Danny putting him at L-1, so you vote Danny to give yourself breathing room.
i thought i had made that pretty clear-
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either of you want to share with the class?
this robb vote in particular does not make a lick of sense. why do you think wisdom is bussing right now?-
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no, i'm questioning why you're still voting him nowIn post 377, Wisdom wrote:so youre questioning my vote which happened before he claimed poison doc?
seems legit
VOTE: desp
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huh??In post 378, Robbnva wrote:I'd answered but wisdom basically did it for me
so you think scum are just saccing vax for...what exactly?-
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In post 382, Wisdom wrote:like, i hadnt posted after the poison claim so how did you know i wouldnt change my vote? Bs
you voted vax
vax claimed poison doc and gerry claimed poisoned
i asked why you voted vax
you said it's because he claimed doc and vecna flipped doc
then i asked you why you're still voting him given everything that happened between you voting him the first time and then you responding to me asking why you voted him (which happened after all that stuff I just mentioned)
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poisoner is 3p, no way scum have a 2nd kill mechanic in a miniIn post 386, gerryoat wrote:so you're saying mafia has a poisoner and a poison doc?-
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huh??In post 513, mozamis wrote:very unlikely to be a 3rd party in a mini btw.
and i explained my danny vote, the reason didn't change overnight.-
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moz might be scum but i cant figure out if that means gerry and vax are both town or not. clearing gerry because scum "wouldn't fake that shit" when he could easily just be scum who got poisoned and then arguing that third parties aren't likely in minis when that's pretty obviously wrong is not a logical way to process what's happening right now-
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danny had a really scummy reaction to vecna's reaction test and his presence on that wagon made the least sense of anyoneIn post 517, Robbnva wrote:It wasn't a good one yesterday. Why do you think it's still a good one?
vecna got lynched and flipped town
why would i let this go?-
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In post 531, mozamis wrote:hey, let's get bogged down in set up spec!
you're using inaccurate set up spec to clear gerry and then pretend like i'm the one getting us bogged down in it?
come on
right now a danny/moz/gerry team is looking pretty good to me. you and gerry are both going out of your way to dispel the notion of a 3p and it doesnt make sense from a town perspective.-
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i also invite everyone to iso moz and try to locate his reasons or his votes thus farIn post 531, mozamis wrote:Lots of reasons please.
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@ moz simply stating that people don't have reasons doesn't make it true. Danys reaction to vecnas reaction test and the wagon that followed, which encompasses a total of three posts, was scummy. He is my preferred lynch and if your best defense for him is "someone else said he's new so he's probably lynchbait"-
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fmpov you either got poisoned or are yourself the poisoner...neither makes you town.In post 568, gerryoat wrote:I already explined why it's unlikely I can be scum from your point of view. Why didn't you reply to anything I was saying? Explain my thought process from yesterday end of day and going into today and the beginning of today if i'm scum?-
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yes, that's exactly what i'm saying. if you're scum, you are trying to dispel the notion of a third party in order to conftown yourself.In post 573, gerryoat wrote:in what way have I dispelled? Also, this is flawed logic. you're saying as scum we would try to DISPEL a possibility of a 3rd party?? Why as scum would we not want to confuse town more, and give more possibilities instead of taking them away. I don't like your train of thought here-
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so your scum team is vax, almost, and wisdom?In post 597, Robbnva wrote:no your logic is faulty, I seriously doubt town has 2 doctors. town having 1 and scum having 1 make more sense. Scum being protected from poision actually makes a lot of sense, especially since they are already out numbered.
moving on
1. you don't know if town have a vig or not actually
2. and? that is weak logic
3. scum aren't invincible because we have roles that can investigate them, plus we still have our voice and our vote.
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which posts specifically have i been doing this?In post 603, Robbnva wrote:As for Desp, I just haven't seen anything from him that impresses me. His day 2 posts seem more like scum vying for town cred rather than genuine town-
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this isn't the first time you said this and it's making even less sense nowIn post 614, Robbnva wrote:Desp hasn't really scum hunted this game and is voting Danny for his reaction alone which is bad. He's literally done nothing else of value. You can only gauge reactions if you know a person well enough which I doubt he does.
So desp scum/chick scum seems right to me.
Wisdom is probably the 3rd party. Possible scum but definitely not town.
are you suggesting that i can't evaluate a player's reaction to a given event unless i know them well enough?
if so...what are any of us doing here???-
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not BAD reaction, SCUMMY reactionIn post 638, Robbnva wrote:Chick and desp have literally done nothing protown. No genuine scum hunting. Desp's vote for "bad reaction " was bad enough for day 1, it doesn't get better day 2.
as in, i don't think a town player would react to what occurred between vax and vecna the way danny did-
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why is edos scum?
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@ wisdom: why is edo scum?
@ robb: the fundamental difference he is that the way i'm reading your philosophy, measuring the genuineness of a given reaction is the only way to determine whether someone is town or scum, and you have to have familiarity with a person to be able to do that. i don't buy that at all. danny is scum because his reaction didn't follow a logical town progression
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^like, seriously. what about this series of posts says "i'm town who's thinking critically about this?" especially when multiple people were explaining how/why town vecna would indeed do what he did. it's tone deaf scum agenda through and through.In post 293, iDanyboy wrote:I don't see why town Vecna would do that. I'll be putting my vote back on.
VOTE: Vecna
@ almost: i haven't really noticed anything overly toxic in either direction but that's all in the eye of the beholder. your replace out makes me sad panda.-
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robb's town, he's just really really wrong right now
moz is scum taking advantage of him-
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i'm not going to waste my time explaining why this is different from what you did lmaoIn post 335, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:A small part of me thinks that Vecna would have played things a bit more smooth here if he was scum and not have gotten himself in the predicament that he's in.
A big part me however feels like fake claiming there was classic frustration due to the feeling(s) of being caught for the wrong reasons. As we all know, there was zero town motivation for that move. Literally none. He already had a read on Vax and a pretty strong one at that given the scum read he expressed through actions and verbally. Vecna wanting and/or needing to reassess his read there so early though emotion is odd and I just don't see town giving someone they scum read a chance to ATE their way out of a wagon. It seems like he was just banking on getting some sort of claim to make it easier for his partners during the night.
VOTE: Vecna
it's self evident-
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he says, as he argues against his lynch...In post 877, Robbnva wrote:It is though cause it's going to put suspicion on him
scum need to lynch town to win. he saw an opportunity based on another player's bad play that, despite multiple players arguing against his lynch, still ended up with him dead.
Vecna (7) - Vaxkiller, Chickadee, Backhand, Robbnva, iDanyBoy, Lil Uzi Vert, gerryoatLYNCH
who are your scum here if it isn't danny, robb?-
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In post 886, iDanyboy wrote:So did these 3, Why am I scum more than them?
are you even reading? lol
i think gerry is scum too and luv is dead-
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actually i've mentioned a couple other things that point to you being scum, especially with gerryIn post 893, iDanyboy wrote:
But he his voting me on thatIn post 891, Vedith wrote:That's like saying Scum and town always have different opinions.alone. He has no other reasoning.-
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it would really help if you read the game you replaced in to, it's not that longIn post 899, Vedith wrote:You think Gerry is Scum purely because of the lynch and hammer or...?-
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In post 910, mozamis wrote:even though Wisdom keeps calling you scum you hvae him as strong town read?
Its unusual, to say the least
Wisdon, Desp, Danny scum team
Edos SK?
almost is my strongest townread and has claimed cop with an innocent on wisdom
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if you're just gonna throw out purely speculative bullshit then i don't really see the point. what i would or would not have done w/r/t luv today is irrelevant.In post 928, Robbnva wrote:If luv wasn't dead you'd probably suspect him too.
Your logic is bad. Not bad townie. Bad scum trying to attack easy targets.-
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the only reason luv even came up is because danny's only defense is "well LUV did it too!"In post 931, Robbnva wrote:You name 3 people. Scum read 2 but not the third because he flipped town. It's speculative sure, but given your top scum suspects it's probably close to the truth.-
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doc is already deadIn post 1004, Vedith wrote:So any protection goes on you tonight.
don't wait, robb-
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...In post 1254, mozamis wrote:
luckiest win you'll ever have lolIn post 1224, Chickadee wrote:Thanks everyone. It was a great game.
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