Mini 1936: Yume's Cutsie U-Pick (Town Win!)

[The Wood Cutters]

VOTE: Sappho
baereed & chansey post things

Dey our loves. <3

Btw we have a post restriction on top of the global one but you'll never figure it out.

[The Wood Cutters]

I hear Rubies go well with Sapphires too.
My loves for me personally I will think Sapphire with that name and with me having a character named Ruby. <3

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Every post must contain an <3 and an ?

Not exactly but close enough. <3

[The Wood Cutters]

(Ours is also both looser and yet more strict, so. We're gonna have

fun

this game. )

[The Wood Cutters]

Just the <3 =]

Nope! Like I said, you got it close enough but not quite right.

You'll probably figure it out when Ginngie and Nacho stop scheming behind closed doors.

[The Wood Cutters]

(Okay so, like. Most of the scheming is my fault. BUTSTILL. THOUGHT WHICH COUNTS. )

[The Wood Cutters]

There has to be either an <3 or some sort of smiley in every post?

Close enough! ^_^

[The Wood Cutters]

There has to be either an <3 or some sort of smiley in every post?

[The Wood Cutters]

\o/

Matt Roush why?

[The Wood Cutters]

VOTE: The Wood Cutters
I feel like this is how you'd talk to me as scum. As town you've been universally way more... standoffish?

Fuck off, RC.

[The Wood Cutters]

VOTE: The Wood Cutters
I feel like this is how you'd talk to me as scum. As town you've been universally way more... standoffish?

Fuck off, RC.

Alternative response: My moderator always said, if you haven't got anything nice to say......




(Not really tho; I actually could think of plenty of nice things to say but then I'd ruin this joke. )

[The Wood Cutters]

VOTE: The Wood Cutters

I feel like this is how you'd talk to me as scum. As town you've been universally way more... standoffish?

Are we not allowed to have fun or something?

Spoiler: Don't be a

[The Wood Cutters]

Are we not allowed to have fun or something?

You are but I'm not.

[The Wood Cutters]

I just think that the amount of fun that you're having is alignment indicative in a scum way

To be honest.

I've never been more happy and giddy and just overwhelmed with joy than when Ari handed us our role because it is just perfection incarnate, heaven on earth and I am loving every minute of it. <3

[The Wood Cutters]

your response to me rly confused me for a sec

Sorry. Posting from mobile right now

~Ramona

dont worry about it

im still confused who is matt roush

I COULD NOT HAVE FUCKED UP ANY HARDER


>_>

<_<

*Peter Dinklage

[The Wood Cutters]

Or, rephrasing that

I think that the way that you're talking to me while having fun is scum indicative. Hard to explain what I mean beyond that, standoffish isn't the right word but this is, just... not what I'd expect.
I think it would make more sense for this to be this -not what I'd expect- if you're scum because then you'd be a lot less worried about reading me and shit and more able to just let your hair down and do stuff.

A lot more than hair ties have been taken down since this game started

[The Wood Cutters]

I think it would make more sense for this to be this -not what I'd expect- if you're scum because then you'd be a lot less worried about reading me and shit and more able to just let your hair down and do stuff.

Why would I.
Someone who fucking knows I can't read you.
Spend time trying to read you.

When I am in a fucking hydra with NACHO.
And GIN.
Who're both players that maybe-maybenot can read you but who I trust more than my own opinion on you and can just sheep?

You're bluntly not worth my effort.

I'll be sorting players a plenty. You're someone I'll leave to my partners tho. It's cleaner all-around that way.

[The Wood Cutters]

The last time this happened, and in a game with me no less, you were handed a scum role, if you recall.

To be frank.
Nope!

Not ringing a bell, sorry.

[The Wood Cutters]

Wait what since when can either Nacho or Ginn read me

You've never actually been scum in one of my town games

obvi a gin post, but uhh, yeah that has yet to be determined

[The Wood Cutters]

Wait what since when can either Nacho or Ginn read me

Well I'd certainly hope they can because I can't.
Worst comes to worse I can always rely on my lovers to read you because between my babe and my lady, I figure they have good accuracy there.

Basically there's four people in here I know and trust who I also trust more than myself RE: you.

[The Wood Cutters]

(I'm sorry my loves I really suck at figuring out distinguishing names to separate you two. You can always suggest alternatives. <3)

[The Wood Cutters]

How do you know chansey and baereed aren't my scumfriends

Because Sapphire's

our

scumbuddy, duh.

[The Wood Cutters]

How do you know chansey and baereed aren't my scumfriends

Let's just say we all came really really fast

[The Wood Cutters]

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and yeah I know, I'm sure chansey's been posting up a storm in that scum topic of yours

My lady doth protest much.

She's a typhoon, not some mere storm. You shall address her properly so. <3

[The Wood Cutters]

VOTE:

ASLAN

[The Wood Cutters]

Boo.

town.

[The Wood Cutters]

Chansey hydra & Misty hydra, do you guys share a neighbourhood?

nope

[The Wood Cutters]

Chansey hydra & Misty hydra, do you guys share a neighbourhood?

nope

[The Wood Cutters]

I mean, it's possible I've read too far into things. TWC, what exactly is your read on what Sappho has done so far?

I'll make you a chart to demonstrate

Sappy Squad
a gold bar
spicy chicken sandwich
McNuggets
The Dirt
The worms inside the dirt
An innocent child


They're town

[The Wood Cutters]

I mean, it's possible I've read too far into things. TWC, what exactly is your read on what Sappho has done so far?

Boo.

town.

[The Wood Cutters]

That is mighty unfortunate for your side of the party, now if you excuse me, I need to get back to the harem

[The Wood Cutters]

(Also Ginngie be careful with stuff like that. )

[The Wood Cutters]

(I'm waiting for some sort of explanation for how either of your hydras is townreading the other hydra based on the content that you've provided.)

Talkin' to the wrong head here fella.

I mean I'm literally the worst head to ask.

[The Wood Cutters]

(Ginngie's not much better tho. )

[The Wood Cutters]

Do you want a full blown RC deathtunnel? Because this is how you got a full blown RC deathtunnel.

Spoiler:

[The Wood Cutters]

GINNGIE I THOUGHT WE AGREED I WOULD BE THE ONE TO POST STUFF LIKE THAT

[The Wood Cutters]

Ok, so which of the heads is townreading chansey and when are they going to talk to me about it?

Every head who has checked in thusfar is doing so.

[The Wood Cutters]

Oh fuck.
Uh.
Does referring to ourselves mean we can refer to individual heads?

[The Wood Cutters]

WELL IF NOT I WILL ARGUE THAT THE RULE WAS AMBIGUOUS PRIOR TO THE MOD MAKING IT MORE EXPLICIT AND THUS THAT MY THREE POSTS CALLING GIN OUT BY FULL NAME SHOULD NOT COUNT.

[The Wood Cutters]

Enough of this.

TWC, why do you guys scum read Dio? Is it for the blatant fishing for info? Seems too bold for one of the heads to do as scum.

- Scott

<_<

>_>

I'm just starting a fight

[The Wood Cutters]

If you're town you will do all of us a favour by taking my scumread on you a lot more seriously and explaining where you are coming from.

RC don't be a CommKnight.

If you are town you will trust us.

If you are not town then you will nightkill us.

[The Wood Cutters]

I know for a fact that Mastina being affable leans scum indicative.

I can be a dick as either alignment thankyouverymuch.

I can also be nice as either alignment and this game I have extra-giddy reasons for being all good and whatnot because we are just so wonderfully perfect. <3

[The Wood Cutters]

I don't have a problem being a commknight. I have been clear about my problem and you've done absolutely nothing about it. If you're town you owe me better.

No. We really don't. When we say not to be a CommKnight.

We mean not to be a fucking CommKnight for damn good reason.

We owe you nothing.
Our actions will speak louder than our words.

And our actions can and will be very unambiguously shown to be town.

Especially the moment we are nightkilled.

Which is a thing that will happen yaknow.
Because scum can and will kill us--they may have no reason to feel I'm a threat but between Gin and Nacho we'll be their nightkill.

[The Wood Cutters]

That's fine, Misty. But you owe me more than just saying that Chansey is town for a one word 'Boo.'

wow

TIL: I can replicate mastina's posting style perfectly

[The Wood Cutters]

Oh fuck.
Uh.
Does referring to ourselves mean we can refer to individual heads?

The key word is other which implies not the same slot
If I'm wrong on this interpretation Ari can correct me

I had not considered my word choice, but I agree with this interpretation. You may refer to yourselves as yourselves.

Individual heads of your own hydra are included in this exclusion.

So basically I can say my partners' names?

[The Wood Cutters]

Okay, then let's do this another way.

TWC, claim.

wow

what a role fish

[The Wood Cutters]

But you owe me more than just saying that Chansey is town for a one word 'Boo.'

At this point?

No we really don't.

Maybe at some point down the line we would. (Well we would if we actually had any plans of not being the scum nightkill but as things stand that is in fact our current plan.)

But we owe you nothing at this point in time.
At least I do. Gin may give you something but I doubt it she seems to be along the same line of thought of me.

If Nacho chooses to give you something he has my support in having done so.

But I owe you nothing and will give you nothing. At this time anyway.

[The Wood Cutters]

That's fine, Misty. But you owe me more than just saying that Chansey is town for a one word 'Boo.'

wow
TIL: I can replicate mastina's posting style perfectly

No RC just sucks at identifying who's posting.

[The Wood Cutters]

TWC, claim.

Absolutely not. I mean there's reason I am tempted to claim.

I've bounced the idea around with Gin and Nacho, contemplating a public claim of something which is important, which is actually really important to be honest, but. We might lose more than we gain FROM claiming and I'm not claiming this without the full support of our hydra. And it certainly wouldn't be because you asked it of me; it'd be because we had good reason to claim it on our own.

So no.

Never claiming because you asked.

Might claim because it'd potentially be a good idea to claim ANYWAY.
But not claiming because of you.

[The Wood Cutters]

Also I should probably step into the background when it comes to engaging RC since he makes me forget that I have a posting restriction.

[The Wood Cutters]

Oh fuck.
Uh.
Does referring to ourselves mean we can refer to individual heads?

The key word is other which implies not the same slot
If I'm wrong on this interpretation Ari can correct me

I had not considered my word choice, but I agree with this interpretation. You may refer to yourselves as yourselves.

Individual heads of your own hydra are included in this exclusion.

So basically I can say my partners' names?

Confirmed

Okay then. <3

[The Wood Cutters]

Ruby! We can worry about Ruby later.

Not really seeing as how our plan is to get nightkilled.

[The Wood Cutters]

This is so bullshit and every party involved has to know it.

It's not bullshit it's ~magic~.

Or fucking voodoo shit, if you'd prefer.

[The Wood Cutters]

(One of these days someone will not only get that reference but build upon it. Not including those who already know because I told them. )

[The Wood Cutters]

I have asked repeatedly for reasons to be given.

And we've told you repeatedly you're not likely to get them.

[The Wood Cutters]

Are you confirmable as town: yes or no? Do you have a role reason to believe that Chaereed is town: yes or no?

Do you think these are questions which, under ANY circumstance, would actually be a good idea to answer? As in, would you answer them if they were instead directed at you? Yes/no?

...I thought so.

[The Wood Cutters]

The post restricion is already making it difficulty for me to identify who is being talked about at times. Who is Chansey? A link to the post where the nickname is connected to the slot would be sufficient.
-Cerb

Okay so like.

Hijacking my hydra time. (Sorry Ginngie. )

VOTE: Reasonably Rational.
Welcome to my first serious contribution to the game.

[The Wood Cutters]

Like you don't get to fucking call me scum because I have a very clear problem with something that is very clearly a problem and I feel like if you had an actual reason to townread each other you'd say it.

Hey I wasn't the one who said you were scum.
I mean it's possible you are but I wasn't the one who said it.

[The Wood Cutters]

Ruby! We can worry about Ruby later.

Not really seeing as how our plan is to get nightkilled.

Is that so?
- Scott

Indeed it is! It's always my plan when I land town and I think Ginngie might actually have incentive to be nightkilled? And really Nacho's main reason to not be nightkilled is to play with us but we've played together more in 36 hours than we did the whole game of our last Woodcutters hydra, so.

We're good. <3

[The Wood Cutters]

I'm pretty pissed off at both hydras regardless of alignment.

[The Wood Cutters]

Ruby! We can worry about Ruby later.

Not really seeing as how our plan is to get nightkilled.

Indeed. TBH, it seems quite improbable that this particular hydra doesn't end up shot sooner rather than later. I'd reserve worrying about them for lylo, or a day out if you're really concerned. The unfounded townread point is somewhat reasonable I guess, but I suppose I just haven't seen the currently speaking head as scum often enough to have RC's strength of conviction. I don't recall any defense of scumbuddies coming out in Inorganic Chemistry, but that game was quite some time ago.
-Cerb

Okay so like.

Last post it was just a hunch.

This post is a confirmation and my GOD I hope Nacho sees it too among others (it'd help if my loves did and also Ginngie since this is one of her first encounters with the logical duo <3), but.

This is pure scum.

I'm not exactly in an explanation-mode for this so.
Trust me?

Legit serious scumread here.

[The Wood Cutters]

RC, what's your certainty level here on your read?
-Cerb

Sapphire:

My loves. Please. Trust me. I'm not sure what alignment RC is. (It could actually be town from this post alone?) But The logical duo is just scum here. Please vote them with me. You won't regret it. <3

[The Wood Cutters]

And I want the real answer, not the "I'm going to push this fucking lynch through with complete conviction even though I'm not actually 100%" answer.
-Cerb

I mean I'm not gonna lie and say, "Hey the logical duo is just as scum as Sapphire is town".
Because Sapphire is 100% town and the logical duo is only like 90% scum, but.

This is just their scumgame.

[The Wood Cutters]

If it were, you wouldn't have started out the game with random townreads that would draw attention to the connection.

Oh!
That reminds me.

Time for some hard townreads which would draw attention to a connection.

Sapphire
RC
Ramoan
Jared
Our lovely cute host
Rei
The game decider
this random guy
V
DIO
The OTHER RR
The logical duo.

[The Wood Cutters]

I don't think Ratburn votes RC there as scum.
- Scott

I do but not enough where I'd want to fight over it since I'd rather direct you to the logical duo.

[The Wood Cutters]

I think Suit and Tie was incredibly town for her end of the posting and I think lover was continuously lover-specific towntelling in real time. I do understand that lover as scum can sometimes tick those boxes but she can't do it nearly as much as she has here.

To be fair.

We do have a posting restriction.

And enforcing that kinda sorta forces us to play in a way which is much much much closer to our town meta regardless of our actual alignment.

But yes we are in fact town. <3

[The Wood Cutters]

Is that your reads in order?

243 is indeed my readslist--emphasis tho on "mine", in that I didn't consult either Ginngie or Nacho for it, so.

Take some reads with a grain of salt.

[The Wood Cutters]

Think you guys might be jumping the gun on The Duo.
- Scott

I'm reasonably sure we are not tho.

[The Wood Cutters]

ytf r u townreading me

Honestly?

Because of the way both RRs treated you.

Yes preflip associatives etc. but dealwithit.

[The Wood Cutters]

ytf r u townreading me

Honestly?

Because of the way both RRs treated you.

Yes preflip associatives etc. but dealwithit.

Explain this please?

I took a look through my counteRRparts ISO and didn't see anything looking like they were trying to attach themselves to me...

More like he felt like you both had scum approaches to my slot, which ties you both together as scum.

WHICH MEANS

it's more likely RC!town

[The Wood Cutters]

VOTE: RR

you need to be more specific as there are two RR's

[The Wood Cutters]

Woodpeckers
Ruby

Oh.
When people say Ruby they don't mean me.
WELL THAT MAKES THINGS AWKWARD

[The Wood Cutters]

Masthead needs to calm the fuck down. This is the first post I'm making in the game thread, because the last time I refreshed it was still on page one.

If you're going to pull this shit where you just handwave and declare we're scum all game without any reason, then just fucking say so now so we can check out. We're not scum and I'm not going to dump a bunch of time into this game when you didn't even have the respect for me to have a proper real and meaningful talk with me after wasting weeks of my time, in a way which was particularly

devastating

to me, even with the modfather mediating. I'm simply not going to put up with that sort of bullshit again. The only reason we're in this game as a hydra instead of just Cerb alone, given that you are, is because the Yummiest player ever is here and happens to be one of our favorite people. They outweigh putting up with your nonsense, basically. Ever since SMITE, you have had a "gut" reason to call me scum, whether in or out of hydra, in every game we played together. You got lucky once. Try and learn something from that track record. I mean FFS I haven't even posted yet and you're pulling your usual shit.

To the sane among you: I just now had a chance to talk to Cerb about our role and I feel that we should claim a little: We have negative utility built into our role. Targeting us will never return information about us. It's not ascetic and it has a really weird name. It's totally related to our flavor (Which Cerb will hate me forever and ever and ever for making us choose as one of our choices) and it will make sense whenever we flip. We talked about not claiming it and seeing if we could have someone out a result on us and get everyone to commit to not having done it, and then out the liar, but this is a mini and I think it's far more likely it would not help at all and so it's better to put it out there so we don't lose utility elsewhere.

~D

P-Edit: Just to highlight how fucking bullshit Masthead is ... Masthead claims to scum read us because of how BOTH of us have responded to TheBrightestInstrument, and yet this is my first post. It's literally impossible for Masthead's claim to be true because I haven't posted word fucking one until this post. Way to fucking prove my point for me.

RC, do ya thing

[The Wood Cutters]

What's my thing?

you said

drixx

was an easy read in sitechat

Strike #1 for The Wood Cutters!

[The Wood Cutters]

What's my thing?

you said drixx was an easy read in sitechat

FUCK

[The Wood Cutters]

This is actually annoying

[The Wood Cutters]

okay

\o/

[The Wood Cutters]

you didn't even have the respect for me to have a proper real and meaningful talk with me after wasting weeks of my time, in a way which was particularly

devastating

to me, even with the modfather mediating.

We had our talk?

Like.

I was under the impression that our talk in there was resolved--not exactly there, but immediately following in Civilization Mafia where you were my scumbuddy. We kept conversing there instead of the topic V gave us and it felt worked out.

I mean FFS I haven't even posted yet and you're pulling your usual shit.

I also have a near-perfect record in reading Cerb.
Not you, Cerb.
Cerb plays differently in a hydra than out of one sure yeah.

But I don't give a damn about what you've contributed--I'm scumreading him because this is him as scum.

You can be mad at me all you like for scumreading your slot but it has absolutely nothing to do with you and everything to do with me just knowing that Cerb is scum. Regardless of your alignment I probably wouldn't be scumreading you if it were just you right now! Town, scum. You as just you I'm not going to claim I can read. But you

aren't

in this game solo. You're part of a hydra. And my scumread comes from your hydra partner.

And I'm not going to apologize for a scumread, especially not one which is right.

To the sane among you: I just now had a chance to talk to Cerb about our role and I feel that we should claim a little: We have negative utility built into our role. Targeting us will never return information about us. It's not ascetic and it has a really weird name.

Oh I know you well enough to know you're not lying about your roleclaim here.

But I flat-out am basically counterclaiming you here and think this is you having the scum counterpart to our role.

Masthead claims to scum read us because of how BOTH of us have responded to TheBrightestInstrument

Someone didn't read my post correctly! There are two RRs in this game. One is your hydra. The other is the player I call The OTHER RR. BOTH slots, Cerb from YOUR RR, and the OTHER RR, have interacted with RC. I said absolutely nothing about you.

[The Wood Cutters]

Spoiler:

you didn't even have the respect for me to have a proper real and meaningful talk with me after wasting weeks of my time, in a way which was particularly

devastating

to me, even with the modfather mediating.

We had our talk?

Like.

I was under the impression that our talk in there was resolved--not exactly there, but immediately following in Civilization Mafia where you were my scumbuddy. We kept conversing there instead of the topic V gave us and it felt worked out.

I mean FFS I haven't even posted yet and you're pulling your usual shit.

I also have a near-perfect record in reading Cerb.
Not you, Cerb.
Cerb plays differently in a hydra than out of one sure yeah.

But I don't give a damn about what you've contributed--I'm scumreading him because this is him as scum.

You can be mad at me all you like for scumreading your slot but it has absolutely nothing to do with you and everything to do with me just knowing that Cerb is scum. Regardless of your alignment I probably wouldn't be scumreading you if it were just you right now! Town, scum. You as just you I'm not going to claim I can read. But you

aren't

in this game solo. You're part of a hydra. And my scumread comes from your hydra partner.

And I'm not going to apologize for a scumread, especially not one which is right.

To the sane among you: I just now had a chance to talk to Cerb about our role and I feel that we should claim a little: We have negative utility built into our role. Targeting us will never return information about us. It's not ascetic and it has a really weird name.

Oh I know you well enough to know you're not lying about your roleclaim here.

But I flat-out am basically counterclaiming you here and think this is you having the scum counterpart to our role.

Masthead claims to scum read us because of how BOTH of us have responded to TheBrightestInstrument

Someone didn't read my post correctly! There are two RRs in this game. One is your hydra. The other is the player I call The OTHER RR. BOTH slots, Cerb from YOUR RR, and the OTHER RR, have interacted with RC. I said absolutely nothing about you.

[The Wood Cutters]

What's my thing?

you said drixx was an easy read in sitechat

FUCK

It's okay just call him something generic like Dr. Doom.
(And no Dr. Doom that's not a name I choose out of a scumread on you I'd call you Dr. Doom even if you were my strongest townread just because it's the name I thought of for calling your something. Your name doesn't exactly nick very well unlike Cerb.)

[The Wood Cutters]

Yes I know I am a moron sometimes.

[The Wood Cutters]

Btw.

To the sane among you: I just now had a chance to talk to Cerb about our role and I feel that we should claim a little: We have negative utility built into our role. Targeting us will never return information about us. It's not ascetic and it has a really weird name.

Oh I know you well enough to know you're not lying about your roleclaim here.

But I flat-out am basically counterclaiming you here and think this is you having the scum counterpart to our role.

THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
WE ARE FLATOUT COUNTERCLAIMING THE LOGICAL DUO.

I do not think that our roles coexist in the town.
So vote the logical duo.

[The Wood Cutters]

Pagetop?
Edit - Not even close!

Let's face it Ari when you give a universal posting restriction that encourages nicknames and on top of that hand our hydra a posting restriction which encourages us to post a lot...you're not getting many of those.

[The Wood Cutters]

I'm sorry but I think you spent less than 200 words total talking to me. If you think that suffices for having a proper talk about someone you call a friend, I have absolutely no idea how to introduce you to reality, because clearly where you're living is so alien to reality you simply wouldn't have the frame of reference necessary.

Hey welcome to my life. Now you know. Though I coulda sworn you did already given it's no secret I'm autistic and this kinda sorta comes with the territory so.

Also.

It's rather cute that you respond to most of my post but ignore the most important part.

The part where.

Yaknow.

I flat-out fucking counterclaimed your ass.
Because by GOD even if I had the strongest of townreads on you,

in of itself

your roleclaim would instantly shoot you to strongest scumread.

And here's the real kicker.
Why are we town?

Why is my play town to you? Why did you assume this push on you came from a town-mastina and not a scumastina?
Why would you see my roleclaim and not address it? Not say "we could both be town", or if you were skeptical of my alignment, vote me for counterclaiming you?

These are things I'm sure you have answers to as both alignments.
But let me tell you.
They sure don't do you any favors.

[The Wood Cutters]

I never said I trusted the Gays

[The Wood Cutters]

pedit: lolkay
VOTE: Sappho

VOTE: DIOSCURIWHATEVER

BLATANT OMGUS

BLATANT
L
A
T
A
N
T

[The Wood Cutters]

RUBY ROSE IS SCUM.
THIS IS YOUR 100% ACCURATE READER COMING IN TO TELL YOU THIS.
VOTE: Dioscuri
nance we can vote this now, I'm finally with you.

I mean.
I don't disagree that DIO is scum, but.

I'd prefer to focus on the logical duo.

[The Wood Cutters]

RUBY ROSE IS SCUM.
THIS IS YOUR 100% ACCURATE READER COMING IN TO TELL YOU THIS.
VOTE: Dioscuri
nance we can vote this now, I'm finally with you.

I mean.
I don't disagree that DIO is scum, but.

I'd prefer to focus on the logical duo.

LET ME HAVE THIS

FOR A DAY AT LEAST

[The Wood Cutters]

I never said I trusted the Gays

That would indeed make a good no-context quote in postgame.

[The Wood Cutters]

TWC: Maybe you should read Drixxy Drixx's next post?
-Cerb

The contents of what Dr. Doom quoted were present in the original quote.
I can't quite find the right word for that but.
Basically.

Everything that Dr. Doom responded to in 306 was present in 296. 305 was responding to 296, whereas 306 was responding to the later 304. So the question becomes--why didn't Dr. Doom respond to the contents of our roleclaim in 305? Why did he wait until 306 to do so, which was him responding to a separate post?

[The Wood Cutters]

pedit: lolkay
VOTE: Sappho

VOTE: DIOSCURIWHATEVERBLATANT OMGUS
BLATANT
L
A
T
A
N
T

Yeah let's leave my lovers alone pls. <3

[The Wood Cutters]

oh and I refuse to die N1 so

YAY, TIBBERS!

Oh my god I so want that to actually do something that would be amazing. <3

[The Wood Cutters]

Missed Pagetop again This one will be a VC tho!

Wait.

...Your last one won't have one?

FUCK THAT MEANS OUR VOTE FOR THE LOGICAL DUO WILL EFFECTIVELY NOT HAVE EXISTED

GINNGIE CAN I MOVE IT BACK

[The Wood Cutters]

Missed Pagetop again This one will be a VC tho!

Wait.

...Your last one won't have one?

FUCK THAT MEANS OUR VOTE FOR THE LOGICAL DUO WILL EFFECTIVELY NOT HAVE EXISTED

GINNGIE CAN I MOVE IT BACK

NO, 24 HOURS

[The Wood Cutters]

Like Jae's read on me is outdated and they're realize this. Pet Owner can't even read me for shit

every time you're scum you say someone scum reads you saying it's outdated as to try and say you don't do it anymore but you never actually change.

BULLSHIT

[The Wood Cutters]

Like Jae's read on me is outdated and they're realize this. Pet Owner can't even read me for shit

every time you're scum you say someone scum reads you saying it's outdated as to try and say you don't do it anymore but you never actually change.
BULLSHIT

Exposed
- Scott

Indeed.

[The Wood Cutters]

THIS IS ALSO ASLAN AVOIDING GINNGIE


ASLAN KNOWS SHE CAN'T 1V1 ME

SHE SCURRED AND RUNNE'D AWAYYYY

[The Wood Cutters]

THIS IS ALSO ASLAN AVOIDING GINNGIE
ASLAN KNOWS SHE CAN'T 1V1 ME
SHE SCURRED AND RUNNE'D AWAYYYY

GINNGIE I JUST GOTTA SAY

YOU NEED TO CALM DOWN

[The Wood Cutters]

THIS IS ALSO ASLAN AVOIDING GINNGIE


ASLAN KNOWS SHE CAN'T 1V1 ME

SHE SCURRED AND RUNNE'D AWAYYYY

lol

I AM CALM

[The Wood Cutters]

Yeah
I'm avoiding you because talking to you right now is unproductive.
Pushing RR is productive.

No no, you're trying to ignore me because you can't win.

[The Wood Cutters]

Also, FWIW: We're in two different hoods because our flavor counts as two different categories I guess. I very strongly suspect that Ari had a huge laugh with the flavor for us. The people in those hoods should really STFU about them and their composition. It seems likely there is at least one scum in each, so by all means be prudent. What you should

NOT

do is say shit in this main thread which will make it explicitly clear who is in which neighborhood.

Why, you ask? Well ... let's say we rope scum in a neighborhood and then have sound reason to believe the others in the hood are town. It then becomes a huge asset if used properly. It also then forces scum to choose from among bad choices. If I could gift one thought process that Cerbypuff and I share to everyone who plays mafia, it would be the thought process of always maximizing utility any way you can.

Yeah ^this is flat-out a scumclaim.

Also ... LOL @ you assuming I'm town reading you.

What's there to assume?

The language you've used makes it pretty damn unambiguous that you're calling me town! Want me to quote it all for you for the whole world to see? You even have it in this very post, I don't even need to go to your prior posting but it's there too!

You're treating me as town when if you were town you'd have no reason to.

But yes the PT is available any time we're not playing. <3

[The Wood Cutters]

GINNGIE I JUST GOTTA SAY
YOU NEED TO CALM DOWN

(This was me going pot kettle black RE: Ginngie btw if it wasn't obvious enough. )

[The Wood Cutters]

Okay
yeah
ignore what I say
that completely works.

Pushing you is productive.

I should even get producktivity points for it

[The Wood Cutters]

Yeah
I'm avoiding you because talking to you right now is unproductive. Pushing RR is productive.

No no, you're trying to ignore me because you can't win.

Let's be honest is there anyone in this playerlist who actually could win against us?

There's a reason we're gonna be the N1 nightkill.

[The Wood Cutters]

Yeah
I'm avoiding you because talking to you right now is unproductive. Pushing RR is productive.

No no, you're trying to ignore me because you can't win.

Let's be honest is there anyone in this playerlist who actually could win against us?

There's a reason we're gonna be the N1 nightkill.

I mean you right

[The Wood Cutters]

For the record, as sometimes it matters too some people, Aslan as scum will try to joke things off and just try to ignore it and see if it goes away.

Basically exactly what aslan is doing here.

Alsan as town emotes a similar reaction to me in that it's hellfire and a child sacrifice before things calm down.

[The Wood Cutters]

who is vomit boi

[The Wood Cutters]

You have 0 idea on how to read me

We both know this is a lie?

[The Wood Cutters]

You have 0 idea on how to read me

We both know this is a lie?

you're lucky today, thank mastina, tomorrow you're dead tho

VOTE: reasonable dude

[The Wood Cutters]

You have 0 idea on how to read me

We both know this is a lie?

I mean.
To be fair.
I can't. (Even tho I do in fact have said scumread.)

But a player like my babe can, and when Sapphire goes on to tell me DIO's scum, then that's a read I will believe. <3

[The Wood Cutters]

You have 0 idea on how to read me

We both know this is a lie?

you're lucky today, thank mastina, tomorrow you're dead tho
VOTE: reasonable dude

Ah. Would this be because in the PT I described why to lynch the logical duo first?
Sorry for killing your steam.

I do think DIO is scum tho for what it's worth so your push there

is

good.
It's just my scumread on the logical duo is stronger AND I have more reason to think they are a better lynch today.

[The Wood Cutters]

So Trix are for kids has a hate boner for mastina, cool

[The Wood Cutters]

So Trix are for kids has a hate boner for mastina, cool

I'd be upset if he were town--not at him mind you so much as at me.
But with him not being town I don't really feel anything for what it's worth.

I will never apologize for scumreading a player, least of all for having a correct scumread.

I will however apologize for actions done when having an incorrect scumread, i.e. mislynching a player.

Fortunately though that's what you/Nacho are here for! (Also while not quite as directly my lovers too since both can work with me. It's a shame we have only two slots rather than five since if we had five this game would literally be won already. <3) If I am indeed crazy you're here to reel me in and keep me from going extreme like that. ^_^

[The Wood Cutters]

@masthead(which I don't like as a name, but whatever): You do realize the spoilered stuff Drixx posted has absolutely nothing to do with our alignment, and he'd say the same thing no matter what right?

-Cerb

It's not gonna matter brochacho, it's not going to affect her read as it started from your first post

[The Wood Cutters]

@masthead(which I don't like as a name, but whatever): You do realize the spoilered stuff Drixx posted has absolutely nothing to do with our alignment, and he'd say the same thing no matter what right?

I do and never implied otherwise. My answer doesn't change off of your alignment (or lack thereof) though.

I will not apologize for having a correct scumread--why the fuck should I be sorry about having been right? You can argue my reasons are bullshit (they often are), you can insist biases play a part (they don't but you can think they do if it makes you feel better), but a right read is a right read and I'm not going to back down from it.

I will not apologize for having an incorrect scumread either--I am not a scumhunting goddess and I of all people know better than anyone else that yes I can, have, and WILL get reads wrong. But being wrong is a part of the game; everyone has wrong reads and you don't see everyone apologizing for them so why would I be any different? A wrong read is a wrong read. Nothing more than that.

However, it is also nothing less than that. Which is why I will in fact apologize for the consequences of an incorrect scumread. I will be sorry for mislynching a player. I will be sorry that I didn't get it right. I will be saddened that things didn't go well and that I was to blame and I will let the player I mislynched know this is the case.

It's that simple.
At all times, I attempt my best to play towards a win: the fastest, most direct route to victory. Is the route I choose the fastest most direct route to victory? Fuck no I'm not omniscient; I'm human and make mistakes and have an imperfect picture of the gamestate so I select routes which are indirect-at-best, even some which take me the opposite way. But this isn't because I make a decision to go "hey let's take the scenic route!", nor is it because I make a decision to go "hey let's go the opposite way of what we're supposed to!" so much as it is that I'm essentially navigating through a forest without a map and sometimes I get lost. However, the intention is always to reach the destination. (Sorry for the metaphor but it kinda sorta fits? )

And as far as I can tell. With all the information I have at my disposal. The fastest, most direct route to victory. Is lynching you.

[The Wood Cutters]

It's not gonna matter brochacho, it's not going to affect her read as it started from your first post

Basically yeah.

I don't really have the time/energy to deal with this right now (the reason I'm not addressing Dr. Doom) but the read was there from early because this just has logical duo's scum MO written all over it start to finish.

[The Wood Cutters]

I don't make claims lightly and I certainly don't claim to the point where I explicitly say that there will be absolutely no question that we're town, mechanically.

Of course you don't!

These are also not things you say exclusively as town and it's a flat-out lie to pretend they are!

You weigh claiming carefully. This I do not deny. But this is something you do as both alignments. You say you will be town mechanically. This is a claim you would make as either alignment and I have good reason to doubt it. You have partially roleclaimed. You have not fullclaimed, and as such it is possible I am mistaken, this I do not deny. But off of everything I have to go on right now.

I have absolutely every reason to believe this is you claiming, but as scum.

[The Wood Cutters]

Woodchuck what's your Rat read?

Thar be scum number three. Or rather, two. You're actually three.

Though Ginngie's order may differ than mine.

[The Wood Cutters]

I'm telling you that we are a mechanical mod confirm clear (assuming we don't just get killed off at night first).

And I am telling you, I flat-out don't believe you given I have EVERY reason to believe this is a flat-out lie.

We will be able to trigger a mod confirmation of IC

What if I told you that I have good reason to believe there's no IC in the game? What would you say to that? What if I told you that I am still fucking counterclaiming you off of our own role, just a different aspect of it? I do not believe there is an IC when we also have *excerpt from our role*. That's too many conftown in the game. And I mean, literal mod confirmed town, not likely town, not "we think town". You being an IC makes there be too many conftown.

[The Wood Cutters]

Drixby can you remind me what makes you think this isn't a TvT?
pedit: Cowbells you sure you don't want Woodchuck right now?
and of course Gin's order is different, she thinks she can read me but tbh I don't think we've ever been town together in a long long time.
And here I was about to blow up on her.
pedit2: VOTE: Scott
kinda wanna see where this takes me.
Cowbells what do you think of Rat?

But fuck it.
Ginngie you win.
VOTE: Dioscuri.

[The Wood Cutters]

I have a good reason to believe masons don't exist in this game.

Fuckit.

I'll claim.
Sorry Ginngie, Nacho, and my lovelies but this is obvious enough anyway.

We are masons with Sapphire

.

And I flat-out.
Do.
not.
believe.

That Ari gives the town three conftown like that.

[The Wood Cutters]

T_T
Sorry then
but like
that read came out of nowhere

[The Wood Cutters]

I ASKED IF YOU WERE NEIGHBOURS TO GIVE YOU AN OUT IF YOU WERE MASONS THOUGH. OMG.

YOU ALSO WERE PISSING US OFF AND GINNGIE WAS LIKE "HELL NO I'M NOT CLAIMING THAT".

[The Wood Cutters]

3. This may be a bastard setup. This does not mean I will lie to you, but that roles may contain bastard elements.

- Scott

That is a standard message for any game featuring a redirector-type role. (Of which there are many btw.) It is also a message which can be used for something like a godfather or ninja, in that an investigative will get an inaccurate result. It is not however something which means "lol your mason buddy is actually scum trolololol" because that is both definitively bastard and assuredly a lie.

[The Wood Cutters]

OH FOR FUCK SAKE.
AND I WAS READING CAMNS REVENGE THINKING THE SAME THING A CERTAIN SOMEONE WAS THINKING WHEN THEY GOT A ROLE THATS SIMILAR TO ME.

Well I hate to be the gal who outs the entire town power D1 but.

You're our prime wagon right now, so.

Now would be a good time to out what you are.

[The Wood Cutters]

Eeny, meeny, miney, burn!

Disintegrate: Luvy & Deedles

you....


CommKnight....

oh my god

[The Wood Cutters]

[The Wood Cutters]

PAGE TOP BITCHES

[The Wood Cutters]

I'd be smackin the errer lovin' shit outta everyone if another hydra of mine got dayviged D1

[The Wood Cutters]

I shouldn't be allowed to have these kinds of roles, I get so cocky hehehehehehe

[The Wood Cutters]

Eeny, meeny, miney, burn!

Disintegrate: Luvy & Deedles

you....
CommKnight....
oh my god

I mean I explicitly told RC not to do a CommKnight when he was scumreading us/my loves.
There was good reason for that.

He hinted fairly heavily at exactly this.

So I can buy it being real.

[The Wood Cutters]

I'd be smackin the errer lovin' shit outta everyone if another hydra of mine got dayviged D1

My thoughts exactly.

[The Wood Cutters]

Ya know, you'd think with a gun in my face I'd actually get serious for a little

[The Wood Cutters]

I do think tho that we have made great progress in working together in this game tho :3

I have yet to be mad at you *high fives*

[The Wood Cutters]

I do think tho that we have made great progress in working together in this game tho :3
I have yet to be mad at you *high fives*

Still think we're getting a townflip though.
Ah well.

[The Wood Cutters]

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


HOLD UP

[The Wood Cutters]

So YA'LL BE TELLING ME


MASONS
IC

A DAYVIG

THAT DAYVIG SHOOTS OLE STUMPY

[The Wood Cutters]

YA'LL GOT ME FUCKED UP

[The Wood Cutters]

I think some scumfucks decided to fakeclaim mason

I mean think what you like, you're still scum and with RR!logic not being scum, that leaves you :3

[The Wood Cutters]

I can't even with this setup right now

(Btw I put this in the MASON PT we have but reactions like this are why Ali is scum. )

[The Wood Cutters]

I think some scumfucks decided to realclaim neighborizer

FTFY.

[The Wood Cutters]

I WILL GO FULL FA AND JUST SELFVOTE AND TELL PEOPLE TO VOTE ME
YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW THE FUCK TO READ ME JAE
0
FUCKING
CLUE


GIN SAME GOES TO YOU
YOU HAVE 0
CLUE
ON HOW TO READ ME.

you admitted in site chat that I could read you...

I believe RC was there as well lol

[The Wood Cutters]

I AM NOT CONFIRMED SCUM FOR SUGGESTING SCUM FAKECLAIMING MASONS
I UNDERSTAND HOW THIS GAME FUCKING WORKS AND ALL OF THE DUMB SHIT SCUM CAN DO
IF NO ONE CARES ABOUT MY CONTENT OR THE SCUMFUCK RAT THAT'S PUSHING ME, THEN I WILL JUST SELFVOTE AND GET MYSELF LYNCHED BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE 0 IDEA WHAT TOWN!ALISAE LOOKS LIKE NOWADAYS, AND I CAN'T EVER GET MY FUCKING READS LYNCHED IF I HAVE TO DEAL WITH PEOPLE'S IDOITIC READS ON ME.

GIVE ME AN A


GIVE ME A, T

GIVE ME AN E

[The Wood Cutters]

you can vote yourself now?

:3

[The Wood Cutters]

I mean I knew you were scum from your first post but what gets you off at night

[The Wood Cutters]

Damn

- Scott

LAUGH TELL

[The Wood Cutters]

WELL FUCK YOU

[The Wood Cutters]

IF YOU THINK I FUCKING BREAK DOWN LIKE THIS
AS SCUM
THEN YOU ARE JUST WRONG AND YOU DON'T DESERVE TO BE ABLE TO READ ME EVER


PEDIT: LOL
YOU THINK YOU CAN READ ME BY MY FIRST POST?
WOW
YOU ARE DELUSIONAL.

Youre just doing all caps?

[The Wood Cutters]

IF YOU THINK I FUCKING BREAK DOWN LIKE THIS
AS SCUM
THEN YOU ARE JUST WRONG AND YOU DON'T DESERVE TO BE ABLE TO READ ME EVER


PEDIT: LOL
YOU THINK YOU CAN READ ME BY MY FIRST POST?
WOW
YOU ARE DELUSIONAL.

YOU'RE JUST DOING ALL CAPS?

EBWOP

[The Wood Cutters]

you admitted in site chat that I could read you...I believe RC was there as well lol

I remember this!

[The Wood Cutters]

I mean I knew you were scum from your first post but what gets you off at night

Hey I knew Ali was scum before Ali's first post.

...Because...of...you...know...hydra, partner posting first...and...stuff.

[The Wood Cutters]

Damn
- Scott

LAUGH TELL

[The Wood Cutters]

WELL FUCK YOU

(But we love you anyway, Ali. <3)

[The Wood Cutters]

IF YOU THINK I FUCKING BREAK DOWN LIKE THIS
AS SCUM
THEN YOU ARE JUST WRONG AND YOU DON'T DESERVE TO BE ABLE TO READ ME EVER


PEDIT: LOL
YOU THINK YOU CAN READ ME BY MY FIRST POST?
WOW
YOU ARE DELUSIONAL.

Youre just doing all caps?

*You're

[The Wood Cutters]

The logical duo claimed two roles.
One, a "not ascetic but weird role which will make investigatives fail" (paraphrase too lazy to bring up the exact quote).
The other, their IC claim.

As it just so happens.
We are counterclaiming BOTH. Not just one, but BOTH. In that we have both those things.
We have a power similar to what they describe.
We are also a conftown role.

This is one reason why I find it so difficult to believe the logical duo's claim.
They're literally claiming essentially our role.

[The Wood Cutters]

Targeting us will never return information about us. It's not ascetic and it has a really weird name.

Could one of you two elaborate on this aspect of your claim? I understand that the point of obscuring it is to discourage scum from shooting at you, but knowing if actions directed towards you are redirected or fizzled out would be helpful towards figuring out if something wonky happened last night.

[The Wood Cutters]

Yeah masons in a uPick
Good one

It makes sense when you realized who we picked~

(Btw I'm a lot more mellow atm sorry for the shitstorm Ari)

Thirdly, atleast Drixby wanted to warn people about the negative utility the role had, you didn't even say a word of it.

I mean there's reason I am tempted to claim.

I've bounced the idea around with Gin and Nacho, contemplating a public claim of something which is important, which is actually really important to be honest, but. We might lose more than we gain FROM claiming and I'm not claiming this without the full support of our hydra.

Might claim because it'd potentially be a good idea to claim ANYWAY.

You were saying...?



(We did. This is what I was referring to as the thing we were considering claiming. Not the masons bit. The OTHER bit of our role. We had zero plans to claim mason; I was bouncing the idea of claiming the other half of our role openly.)

Also, when scum are conftown they like to order the heads of anyone whom oppose them.

Guess what we thought of the logical duo's actions post-claim!

[The Wood Cutters]

Like
I believe ywall are masons now.

Can we work together atleast?

Haven't read up but no.

[The Wood Cutters]

It's possible scum in the animal hood were listening in and chose to kill him because of that, so if the masonry isn't real and you're just sticking up for a townread, now would be the time to say so.

Vomit boy/random was almost definitely not the scum's nightkill. What caused that kill and what it means for his alignment, hard to say. We'll unfortunately have to assume town even if he's scum since we're not getting that reveal. But the mafia 100% would not choose to janitor of all people the midget N1. Not with conftown claims out on the board and a watcher-type role dead D1. So that death wasn't mafia-based. We'll only have speculation as to the exact specifics beyond that.

[The Wood Cutters]

Like
That was a scum dayvigi

Cowbells was reckless and hasty about his scum dayvigi
He didn't tell us he was ending the day early
And in general he usually shots scum with those things.

He's scum here.

There's also by play he like
Completely ignores my slot completely.
There were interactions I had with him where he wasn't really interested in sorting my slot.

Vote TB
This isn't rocket science.

This post radiates scum but I dont know if it's a bus or not.

[The Wood Cutters]

hey mastin how much did nance and jae tell you about last night?

We're masons, soooooooooo...

...Everything?

[The Wood Cutters]

Like
I believe ywall are masons now. Can we work together atleast?

Haven't read up but no.

That's not nice mastina you're a meanie.

[The Wood Cutters]

Like
I believe ywall are masons now. Can we work together atleast?

Haven't read up but no.

That's frustrating.

Sorry, but I trust Ginngie/Nacho/my loves so if they say "no", it means "no". <3

[The Wood Cutters]

fuck I need to smile

I think it might be a bus, but everything about my wants to lynch Alibae and idunno what's scummier >:(

[The Wood Cutters]

This post radiates scum but I dont know if it's a bus or not.

(It's not a bus. <3)

[The Wood Cutters]

I THOUGHT USING MY ACTION ON JAE AND TALKING TO THEM WOULD ALLOW THEM TO PASS MESSAGES TO YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M DOING
OH
MY
FUCKING
GOD

"play over role"

[The Wood Cutters]

MASTIN STOP

You REALLY suck at reading heads don't you?

[The Wood Cutters]

If it's not a bus then one of them is town but they're so scummy

[The Wood Cutters]

fuck I need to smile

It's okay I got ya covered there.

[The Wood Cutters]

VOTE: Virt

If scum wanna bus then fuck it let'em bus

[The Wood Cutters]

(My job in the five-headed duology is essentially crowd control if you're curious. I can influence things if I choose to but for the most part I'm mostly effective at giving little pushes and shoves like this. <3)

[The Wood Cutters]

Youre still getting lynched.

[The Wood Cutters]

You're tone is not the town you. I know how you talk and present arguments.

[The Wood Cutters]

This post radiates scum but I dont know if it's a bus or not.

(It's not a bus. <3)

mastin gets it

I didn't say it meant you were town.

It's just that I feel like I know a bus and I feel like you're not bussing. It looks town-scum, scum-town, or town-town to me but shrug, I'll sheep my hydra partners (plus my love partners) if they say it is a bus.

I THOUGHT USING MY ACTION ON JAE AND TALKING TO THEM WOULD ALLOW THEM TO PASS MESSAGES TO YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M DOING

"play over role"

STOP

Gotta back my hydra buddy tho. Play > role 100% of the time. You convince us you're town off of play, good. You push your role as being evidence of you being town, you get stonewalled.

[The Wood Cutters]

Youre still getting lynched.

(Most likely, yes. )

[The Wood Cutters]

It's like this mix between being sarcastic about what you're saying, but actually trying to convey it as the truth.

[The Wood Cutters]

Your mason partner can tell you that they're wrong.

The delicious irony of YOU asking to trust MY, MASTINA'S, stance on you, does not escape my notice.

[The Wood Cutters]

You're tone is not the town you. I know how you talk and present arguments.

Okay
Don't tone read me
Because that's your first mistake

It's always worked out :3

Oh and you fight that what you do is town motivated and when you OMGUS'd it's one of your staples of doing something extremely scummy and try to play off of the too scummy to be actually scum. It's your style and I know how to find it.(Hint, you're kinda obvious)

[The Wood Cutters]

You're tone is not the town you. I know how you talk and present arguments.

^I do mirror this tho.

Also Musical Composer is not playing as I'd expect him to as town and is playing how I'd expect as scum, so.
I really really would be receptive to my partners insisting it's a bus.

I mean.

I KNOW.
I said it doesn't look like a bus.
I stand by that statement, it doesn't look like a bus.

Both both Ali and LargeThinker are like. Looking scum. So I can see it.
That said I don't think we have much coherency on some of our critical reads. Those two slots critically among us five. We'll need to talk it out. <3

[The Wood Cutters]

lol

THIS IS ALSO ASLAN AVOIDING GINNGIE


ASLAN KNOWS SHE CAN'T 1V1 ME

SHE SCURRED AND RUNNE'D AWAYYYY

lol

lol

You don't "lol" as town, you come at me swinging, but here's you're deflecting the issue and trying to avoid an argument because you have never once been able to hold your ground fighting with me when you're scum.

[The Wood Cutters]

I didn't even OMGUS Jae because I scumread him I OMGUS'd him to tell him he's wrong.

I don't need to play too scummy to be scum anymore Gin.

You dont NEED too, you just DO.

[The Wood Cutters]

Ginngie don't get worked too much up mkay? <3

[The Wood Cutters]

What are your expectations of my play. Because I feel like the way you see my play is different from how I actually play.

Okay so like.
I can sometimes answer this. (Even as town yes, albeit not as often.)
And sometimes not. (Even as scum albeit not as often.)
And even when I feel like I can answer it.
It is something I sometimes feel like not answering. (About equal for both.)

This is a case where both are true: I don't feel like I can articulate it. But even if I could. I honestly don't feel like it?

Sorry.

[The Wood Cutters]

I didn't even OMGUS Jae because I scumread him I OMGUS'd him to tell him he's wrong.

I don't need to play too scummy to be scum anymore Gin.

You dont NEED too, you just DO.

You have an inaccurate view of what my scumplay is if you think I still act how I do in Spyro, because Spyro is super outdated for me meta wise.

You know this makes me scum read you even harder.

[The Wood Cutters]

Amazing
Quality
Talk

My lips are sealed on this meta talk.

[The Wood Cutters]

GINNGIE.
YOU'RE AWESOME BUT SOMETIMES YOU CAN GET WORKED UP AND YOU'RE BEING A BIT RECKLESS.
<3

[The Wood Cutters]

<3 <3 <3

[The Wood Cutters]

<3 <3 <3

(I do love working with my partners quite a lot. <3)

[The Wood Cutters]

Mastin I feel like the way you view my play and what my play actually is is a completely different beast.

I mean like.
I'm not the one driving the read, so.

[The Wood Cutters]

Okay Gin
How am I supposed to talk to you when I felt like you weren't even listening or caring about what I had to say?

Gin I am still waiting for an answer to this.

It's an emotional argument that sidetracks from the game and your play and I don't respond to that.

[The Wood Cutters]

Okay Gin
How am I supposed to talk to you when I felt like you weren't even listening or caring about what I had to say?

Gin I am still waiting for an answer to this.

Ginngie ragequit.

[The Wood Cutters]

It's an emotional argument that sidetracks from the game and your play and I don't respond to that.

(AKA "I JUST. GAH. AHUSEJMGSLGJISJGANTIHEROKEYBOARDSMASH. FUCK." )

[The Wood Cutters]

It's actually annoying that you say I don't care because every scum read of mine is heavily scrutinized and I read everything.

[The Wood Cutters]

Like
The me loling was just me not knowing how to respond to the fact that you are in fact in a tunnel tat you need to pull yourself out of.

I don't know how you got your read, but it's wrong.

okay, please, please. please.

please.

realize how stupid it sounds as an argument.

to go.

well you're wrong.



"Hey Alibae, what's your favorite color?"

"Oh it's purple"

"you're wrong"

[The Wood Cutters]

It's actually annoying that you say I don't care because every scum read of mine is heavily scrutinized and I read everything.

Ginngie calm down please this doesn't help regardless of Ali's alignment. <3

[The Wood Cutters]

Like
If you want to tell me how you got your read
Maybe we can work from there but right now this just seems like a very 1-sided conversation.

It is a 1-sided conversation because you're just going "you're wrong"

and you expect me to go

"Oh my god you're right!

What was I thinking?

Silly me *knee slaps* sorry about that mate, got meself a bit reckless there, Alibae's town"

and you expect me to take that seriously

[The Wood Cutters]

(Also, BRB. Need to log out, log in, try to fix a sitechat glitch I made. <3)

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Did you just ignore the first part of that post?

nope, because you've played long enough with me that I don't care about your defense, I care about your offense.

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Back. <3