Mini 1665: Papers, Please Mafia (Game Over)


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Post Post #1025 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 1:22 am

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Okay, that makes it far less likely to be a scum gambit like I was expecting. I'll think a bit more after work
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Post Post #1026 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 1:26 am

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In post 996, PeaceBringer wrote:
In post 995, ChaosOmega wrote:I know I had him in my lynch pool earlier, but I'm against this Dinare lynch. This reads like a mislynch to me.

So Ank, let's say you think I'm scum. I gave things to PB and Mac. It's pretty much impossible that me, PB, and Mac are scum together. So you think as scum I gave my 1-shot abilities to an innocent (maybe 2 innocents) just for towncred?

so then who do you think is scum, seriously... there is not much left....
there is you
Me
Mac
elusive
dinare
UT
mac
ank

right now I rank things as
dinare
UT
elusive
ank
mac
you
me (as I know my role)
how would you currently rank folks from scum to town?


given this post, your ank shot doesn't make sense from a town PoV since you should surely be vigging your top scumread. with the dinare flip, that would leave UT and elusive before ank on your list so unless something about the dinare flip changed your ank read, i think you're scum who looked at hitting someone who was probably not a viable mislynch but not widely townread enough to be a 'bad' vig kill as such.
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Post Post #1027 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 1:33 am

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I was more thinking about how Chaos giving him a vig last night is really bizarre since his last read was pretty significantly waffling.

This isn't even going into why gigging is bad here in the first place.
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Post Post #1028 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 1:34 am

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Autocorrect can fuck off.
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Post Post #1029 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 1:40 am

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In post 997, ChaosOmega wrote:UT
elusive
Ank
Dinare
you
Mac
me


last read wasn't overly waffly to be honest.

also we have a missing night where nothing was given out, so i'm assuming reck was targetted or CO just didn't give out.

no point speculating on what may have happened really, but i still think pb is scum and the partner is ut/elusive.

vig should probably have been the first thing CO gave out, i wonder if there was a set order he had to follow.

PB, what was the flavour for vig?
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Post Post #1030 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:52 am

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In post 1023, Mac wrote:ank is not dead because i detained (read: jailed) pb.

well thanks for that...
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Post Post #1031 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:55 am

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In post 1026, Mac wrote:
In post 996, PeaceBringer wrote:
In post 995, ChaosOmega wrote:I know I had him in my lynch pool earlier, but I'm against this Dinare lynch. This reads like a mislynch to me.

So Ank, let's say you think I'm scum. I gave things to PB and Mac. It's pretty much impossible that me, PB, and Mac are scum together. So you think as scum I gave my 1-shot abilities to an innocent (maybe 2 innocents) just for towncred?

so then who do you think is scum, seriously... there is not much left....
there is you
Me
Mac
elusive
dinare
UT
mac
ank

right now I rank things as
dinare
UT
elusive
ank
mac
you
me (as I know my role)
how would you currently rank folks from scum to town?


given this post, your ank shot doesn't make sense from a town PoV since you should surely be vigging your top scumread. with the dinare flip, that would leave UT and elusive before ank on your list so unless something about the dinare flip changed your ank read, i think you're scum who looked at hitting someone who was probably not a viable mislynch but not widely townread enough to be a 'bad' vig kill as such.

problem is mac, that my top scum read flipped town. So what do you do when top scum read flips town, you re-evaluate. I take vig shots seriously. I use them. I read over each ISO. Nothing changed my mind on you. When I read Ank, I started going, wtf is he town? He has basically been doing nothing all game. When I read over UT, my 2nd slot of scum, it came off more town to me.

If I was scum here and Choas dead I wouldn't have to out the vig shot at all.
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Post Post #1032 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:56 am

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In post 1027, Ankamius wrote:This isn't even going into why gigging is bad here in the first place.

I get a vig shot I use it. I have a high percetage of taking good vig shots around here.
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Post Post #1033 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:56 am

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vote Anka
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Post Post #1034 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:58 am

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In post 1029, Mac wrote:PB, what was the flavour for vig?

The Item was a sniper rifle. Same basic flavour as given for the track.
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Post Post #1035 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:14 am

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Ehhh i see

vote: ankamius
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Post Post #1036 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:14 am

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vote Ankamius
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Post Post #1037 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:14 am

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boom baby

we got it, PB
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Post Post #1038 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:16 am

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oh

Shit
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Post Post #1039 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:17 am

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refreshing like a warrior

waiting for a mistake
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Post Post #1040 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:21 am

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unvote-
wtf was that?
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Post Post #1041 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:23 am

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that was a lynch I guess and UT throwing weird crap out... WTF?
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Post Post #1042 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:23 am

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mac and UT?
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Post Post #1043 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:24 am

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there's no 3rd party, dude

we won
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Post Post #1044 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:26 am

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In post 1043, Untrod Tripod wrote:there's no 3rd party, dude

we won

I am not a bad guy so wtf are you talking about?
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Post Post #1045 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 6:10 am

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Oh my fucking god.

This is why you don't fucking vote in lylo when there's shit to say.
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Post Post #1046 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 6:13 am

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Whatever, not like quicklynches while I'm not here is new for this game.
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Post Post #1047 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 1:46 pm

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Vote Count 5.01Ankamius (3) - PeaceBringer, Mac, Untrod Tripod

Not Voting (2) - Ankamius, elusive


With 5 alive, it will take 3 to lynch.

The deadline is Sunday, June 21, 2015, at 6:30 PM EDT (UTC-4), which is in (expired on 2015-06-21 18:30:00).


Ankamius, Vincent Lestrade,
innocent vanilla
, was lynched on Day 5!


A win condition has been fulfilled!


PeaceBringer, Kem Mariovska; and elusive, Roberto Moscetti;
innocent vanillas
, have died in the endgame!


Mac, Mikhail Saratov,
insurgent goon
; and Untrod Tripod, Marie Escalli,
insurgent role cop
, survive and win the game for the insurgents!
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Post Post #1048 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 1:51 pm

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Roles


Mafia Informed Godfather: Wrong Song
Mafia Role Cop: Untrod Tripod
Mafia Goon:
Cheetory6
Mac

Town Informed Flavor Cop: hitogoroshi
Town Inventor: ChaosOmega
Town Mason: Quilford
Town Mason Miller: xRECKONERx
Town Vanilla: Dinare
Town Vanilla: elusive
Town Vanilla:
GuyInFreezer
Ankamius
Town Vanilla: Kop
Town Vanilla:
Otolia
Stabulous
Otolia
Town Vanilla:
GreyICE
PeaceBringer

Actions


Day 1


ChaosOmega invents Interrogate (1-shot alignment cop) for PeaceBringer (successful)

Night 1


Wrong Song kills hitogoroshi (successful)
hitogoroshi investigates xRECKONERx (unsuccessful, action did not resolve)
Untrod Tripod investigates elusive (successful, vanilla)
PeaceBringer tracks xRECKONERx (successful, no target)

Day 2


ChaosOmega takes no action (successful)

Night 2


Mac kills xRECKONERx (successful)
Untrod Tripod investigates Otolia (successful, vanilla)

Day 3


ChaosOmega invents Detain (1-shot jail) for Mac (successful)

Night 3


Mac takes no action (successful)
Mac kills Quilford (successful)
Untrod Tripod investigates Dinare (successful, vanilla)

Day 4


ChaosOmega invents Sniper Rifle (1-shot kill) for PeaceBringer (successful)

Night 4


Mac jails PeaceBringer (successful)
Mac kills ChaosOmega (successful)
PeaceBringer kills Ankamius (unsuccessful, action blocked)
Untrod Tripod investigates Ankamius (successful, vanilla)

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Access to the mafia and mason private topics will be granted only by permission of the respective users.

Graveyard: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=61525

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These will be edited in. I need to code it first...


Thank you to all for playing, and special thanks to those of you who stayed until the end or replaced into the game!

Many, many thanks to penguin_alien and RedCoyote for reviewing the game and to RedCoyote for being the backup moderator. I had another two reviewers look at the game, as well, but I did not list them as I wasn't able to secure their explicit approval of the final version of the setup. They can chime in if they wish, as I'm sure that there were issues with the setup as it was run.

That said, I'd like to apologize for the quality of the moderating. This setup was created and more or less approved by late April 2014. The final hold-ups were (1) graphics for the role PMs and flavor and (2) final approvals from the other two reviewers. I'd already made the changes suggested by Reviewer #3, and Reviewer #4 had things to deal with, which left role PMs. Lucas Pope uploaded assets for the Papers, Please beta version, which was what I had planned on using for this game: portraits, passports, and entry permits for the role PMs, and newspapers for each Day and Night phase. Those, as you can see, never got done. I decided to run the game in spite of this because I'd already promised a date of January 2015 previously, and I hoped to get at least the Day/Night assets done during the game. Life happened, etc.

hitogoroshi drawing the linchpin role was a blessing and a terrible, terrible curse. The role was inspired by hitogoroshi's Malingo in Mini 1274: Abarat Mafia (for which he won the Best Setup Award, IIRC), so he was the best person to draw it. Unfortunately, though, hitogoroshi has a troubling tendency to die, and, surprise, he died Night 1 before his role would be of use to anyone. That made Corman Drex effectively a goon, but it didn't really matter because the wicked witch was dead! In contrast, ChaosOmega made the best use of his role that he could, but I probably should have made his a Twilight role rather than a Day role.

Scum played really well here. Not sure of how much of it was intentional, but they killed all of the power roles and investigated many of the vanilla townies. This, apart from the game's activity level, really crippled town. There was only so much Jorji could smuggle past the border.

Anyway, if you have suggestions or comments regarding balance, I'd love to hear it!

If you haven't bought Papers, Please yet, you should. Keep an eye out for it in the Steam summer sale, which should be coming up soon, or wait for it on GOG. It's fairly inexpensive, though, so why wait? Patriotism should not be considered expensive!

Glory to the new Arstotzka.
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Post Post #1049 (ISO) » Mon Jun 08, 2015 1:59 pm

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A+ trolling by UT
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