Mini 1694 -- Zodiac Mafia II (Game Over)

[RedCoyote]

Okay, will update y'all later today... but, yes, this is the end! D:

[elusive]

Super cool

[elusive]

Nacho was awesome this game, my own play was horribad.

Ricastle - you played so weirdly in this game, lol.

[Ricastle]

Yeah. You could say the stars didn't align with me this game.

[St Constantine the Hermit]

Well at least I was right about Massive.

[Tammy]

Yay good game town!

Thanks for running it red coyote.

[Tammy]

Nacho was awesome this game, my own play was horribad.

Ricastle - you played so weirdly in this game, lol.

I don't think your play was horribad though I think you could benefit from trying to work with people a bit more. You can't solve the game on your own. I mean well you can but you can't get town to listen to you and follow you unless you give them a reason to and that takes a certain finnesse.

It's great to have conviction in your reads but tempering that with listening to your town reads or at least taking into consideration what they say would be helpful.

I was town reading ricastle because of we the purple. I couldn't say why day one, but that was why.

I still cannot believe I died night one, although I'd have probably never gotten rid of my mainez scum read. Though my day one track record for having a really good reason scum is town is still intact so yay?

[elusive]

Thanks, Red Coyote for the game and also the theme was cool!

[RedCoyote]

massive,

Mafia Goon

, was lynched on D4.

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Final Day 4 Vote Count

• massive (4) ( Metal Sonic - Ricastle - Salamence20 - startfromtheheart)
  
  Not Voting (3) (
  Salamence20
  - lane0168 - elusive -
  Ricastle
  - massive -
  Metal Sonic
  -
  startfromtheheart
  )

With seven alive, it takes four to lynch.

With four votes, that's a lynch and an end to Day 4.

A win condition has been reached...

TOWN WINS!

[RedCoyote]

Dead Private Topic
Scum Private Topic

Note: All horoscopes are posted in the Dead Private Topic.

To start with the elephant in the room, there were two large errors made by me as it pertains to the horoscopes. First, as Metal Sonic rightly pointed out, he was supposed to be jailed on N3. He already had a role block from earlier in the game and asked to use it on massive during N3. I told him that it would be done. Second, the unfortunate horoscope that massive received on D4/N4 was the Opposite Alignment Empowered horoscope. I told him, incorrectly, that that precluded him from submitting a kill on N3. So when the day started, in my mind both of those things were keeping massive from killing. That was not the case, of course. My mind was on cruise control and these things didn't even register. After Metal Sonic pointed out his jailing, I paused the game in an effort to figure out what could be done to salvage the game. Although there were small possibilities that could've pointed out had players had time to talk about it (e.g. the game was not all VTs like the previous one, Bert had given the scumteam an additional power), I thought the game was pretty much completely screwed sans one possibility. If massive were to deliberately no kill on N3, then perhaps that could cause real problems for Metal Sonic's story.

I didn't tell massive to do this or even bring it up, of course. That's not my place as a mod to do that. What I did tell him was that I made a big mod error and that I would stop the game because of it. He nobly elected to press on in spite of the odds and the rest is, well, what you saw of D4.

As far as the game itself goes, the scum MVP belongs to massive. I think both players struggled for any real townread in this town. One thing about this town, and I pointed out in the dead topic, was that there was just not much townreading going on in general. People were not forming many cliques. Players like Ricastle, elusive and Mainez were constantly being thrown out there as suspects, only to be talked back down and another player talked up. It was a strange way of working together that ultimately worked in the end, especially when Sal came in to bring a lot of focus to the game.

For the town MVP, despite having a very rocky start, I'm going with elusive. I think she was the only player to consistently call out both of the scumteam members. She was sidetracked along the way (Ricastle especially was a stumbling block for her, among others) with emotions and momentum going in different directions, but she wasn't sidetracked by the Nacho lynch and, without her, I think massive would've caught much, much less flak than he did throughout the game. I think she kept him in check a lot of times, sometimes as the only person doing so, and kept massive from ever getting too comfortable in his slot. That said, Tammy, MS and Sal also get some credit for their roles in keeping the town in line at various spots, too.

[RedCoyote]

Oh, and, I left this out of the above, but I am so, so sorry to everyone for that. Especially massive and Mainez. I don't think y'all had a fair shake because of my screw up. That's the reason for my delay in making these posts. I'm kicking myself because of making such a dumb error and have no excuse for it.

[Salamence20]

Gg i love you all.

[massive]

Oh it's all good. You all were robbed of my pretend "every post has to rhyme" post restriction that was coming D4, but that's the only real downside I see.

[Equinox]

Mine?