Mini 1726: Netherspite's Semi-Open Role Madness [Game Over]

[Netherspite]

Transcript of the Court

Court (ika):

SCUMS HEAR ME OUT. WE HAVE THE MAJORITY OF THE VOTES. WE CAN LYNCH HEARTLESS WITH NOT ONLY MY POWER OF 3 VOTES, BUT THE POWER OF THE 3 MAFIA SCUM TEAM AND THE KILLING NEUTRAL VOTE WITH ME

Court (ika)

voted for

Heartless

.

Jury (Jeanne11

: I claim town escort.

Court (ika):

Court is now in Session...

Court (ika):

SCUMS HEAR ME OUT, WE HAVE CONTROL OF THE VOTE RIGHT NOW WE CAN GET RID OF HEARTLESS ON OUR FIRST LYNCH. I HAVE THE POWER OF 3 VOTES. THE MAFIA TEAM HAS THE POWER OF 3 VOTES. THE KILLING NEUTRAL HAS OUR FINAL VOTE ELIMINATE THEM

Jury (Delenn):

I crumbed escort and I am. Why didn't you counterclaim that you were the real whore?

Jury (Bins):

HEY GUYS, this is Bins proving that she's not the Judge so you don't die when the Judge tries to act like the crier. I should also try and work out the math here... shouldn't I? I actually don't think they have majority? I think they have enough to break even. 4 scum + 3 votes from the judge against us 7 town.

Jury (Shiro):

Claiming escorts means nothing since roles aren't unique

Jury (Delenn)

voted for

Heartless

.

Jury (Jeanne11)

voted for

Delenn

.

Jury (Jeanne11):

She is falsely claiming my role, so she must be scum imho. Townies have no reason to fakeclaim.

Jury (Ankamius):

lmao

Jury (Ankamius):

Ika are you scum?

Court (ika):

THE LYNCH NUMBER IS 7 THEREFORE WE CAN STRONGARM A LYNCH THROUGH.

Jury (Heartless):

jeez, i'm glad we quicklynched spiffeh. no harm done, right?

Jury (Heartless):

i'm going to try to get tth on here before we're quicklynched.

Jury (Shiro):

Are you not listening? Both of you can be escorts.

Jury (Delenn):

Hi. You see, your time to CC was long past. I already proved myself as the escort.

Jury (Delenn):

P.S. Random role generation is saving your ass right now.

Jury (Bins):

Your friendly crier here. I think Jeanne/Titus should definitely be the lynch and if we get it wrong then yeah, okay, they can kill Heartless because they're physically capable too.

Jury (Bins):

Anyways, for the first time ever, I think I believe Jeanne.

Jury (Bins)

voted for

Delenn

.

Jury (Jeanne11):

@Delenn Shall I prove that I actually am one?

Jury (Delenn):

I think this is right, unfortunately.

Jury (Delenn):

Judge, Judge, Judge, Scum, Scum, Scum, Neutral Killing

Jury (Delenn):

That's 7 votes.

Jury (Delenn):

Scum control both lynches left.

Court (ika):

EVIL KILLING CLAIM YOUR ROLE! I NEED TO KNOW HOW TO PRIORITIZE YOUR ACTIONS!

Jury (Bins):

NEVERMIND. They can both me escorts. Back to page one. Both of them are probably not lying. Let's go! Choo choo!

Jury (Bins)

voted for

Davsto

.

Jury (Heartless):

ok, it's going to be a race on who can quicklynch faster. townies should be voting someone other than us. and voting fast.

Jury (Heartless)

voted for

Delenn

.

Jury (Davsto)

voted for

Delenn

.

Jury (Delenn):

Post 15.

Jury (Delenn):

Good night.

Jury (Delenn):

*mic drop*

Jury (Delenn):

It doesn't matter though as scum have to game throw to lynch you or me at this point.

Jury (Heartless):

PEOPLE, WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO SHOP AROUND. TITUS HAS A REASONABLY OK CHANCE OF BEING SCUM ANYWAY. VOTE HER OR SCUM ARE GOING TO LYNCH US.
IF WE MAKE IT TO THE NEXT ONE, LYNCH RUNNER.

Jury (Delenn):

Jeanne stop desperate spamming.

Jury (Ankamius):

Vigilante here.

Jury (Ankamius)

voted for

Delenn

.

Jury (Jeanne11):

I can totally prove my role at night. When everybody is sleeping. When I should be sleeping. We must vanquish the evil guys, right? :v

Court (ika):

MAFIA IF YOU GUYS ARE NOT BEING VOTED UP AND SOMEONE ELSE IS VOTE THEM TOO!

Jury (Shiro)

voted for

Heartless

.

Jury (Heartless):

if you're just now joining us, if you're town vote delenn. the judge called a court and so scum have enough votes to lynch us (the marshall). this is going to be a question of who's quicker on the draw. neutral killing, i'll go ahead and point out that you don't really have any incentive to vote us over delenn

Jury (Davsto):

Wait a second, since the whole Judge thing lasts until the end of the day, does that mean we have to go through two lynches like this because of the whole Marshall thing?

Jury (Jeanne11):

Anyway, I am off to do things. Things that involve noodles. I will then sit back and enjoy you going at each other's throats, like for real. Anyone have some popcorn?

Jury (Heartless):

ika's the judge.

Court (ika):

LIES AND SLANDER! KILL HEARTLESS WHILE WE STILL HAVE TIME WE CAN GET SOMEONE ELSE AFTER THIS!

Jury (Heartless):

the fact we're STILL getting voted up against delenn proves they're scum. this is as good as a cop guilty. plz lynch.

Jury (Delenn):

If the nk thinks I am scum, he should vote you.

Jury (Delenn):

I am likely vigged if he doesn't vote to ml me.

Jury (Delenn):

Scum have zero incentive to vote me.

Jury (Delenn):

You want me dead? Argue I am town.

Jury (Davsto):

Because if so, us town should really get an idea of who to go for after Delenn, to prevent scum from quicklynching Heartless again.

Jury (Delenn):

Jury who said wait a second is scum. Scum cannot quick lynch after my lynch if I was scum.

Jury (Delenn):

Just sayin'.

Jury (Delenn):

Heartless (anti?) wants Runner's head after Delenn, so we should lynch him next.

Jury (Heartless):

I hope the Neutral Killing role realizes that sending all three mafia into the night isn't a good thing for him/her.

Jury (Jeanne11):

P.S: You were willing to throw me under the bus the last game we were in just so you can get ahead. Well, now I am throwing you under the bus so that I can get ahead. Bye now.

Jury (Delenn):

Heartless is the lynch or you have to pick someone else.

Jury (Delenn):

You'd need me to self vote to lynch me as scum have zero incentive to vote me. That or one game throws.

Jury (Delenn):

I've got work to do.

Jury (Delenn):

I hate Titus, so she's town. Scum is lurking.

Jury (Davsto):

I'm pretty sure Delenn is basically confirmed scum right now. If they were town, they would have been hammered by scum by now.

Jury (Delenn):

Now isn't that what you want...

Jury (Delenn):

Scum have zero interest in lynching me when they can safely lynch conftown.

Jury (Delenn):

Whoever town wagons is a mislynch/vig.

Jury (Delenn):

Why would scum vote anyone but Heartless here? You don't answer that. You can't because I am right. I am a walking shield from any vig kill.

Jury (Delenn):

Not voting Delenn. I believe her.

Jury (Heartless):

Hello everyone, this is TTH here to restore order. First of all, stop freaking out. We're not getting lynched if the neutral killer is smart. He has no reason to vote with the mafia here. In fact, he's likely going to be in a very bad position if he does. With the Jester grief kill and the claimed killing roles in the Jailor and Vigilante, there's a chance the neutral killer could lose outright on Night 1 if he helps scum railroad us. Even if the game goes to Day 2, the scum team effectively has an extra member in the Judge so Day 2 will be likely be a LYLO / MYLO situation. That is... if the neutral killer even makes it past today (remember, scum don't need his help to secure the third lynch). In short, the third party killer needs a scum lynch on Day 1 as much as we do. If everyone keeps their wits about them, we can still salvage this day.

Jury (Delenn):

The best play for the neutral killer is to vote you Heartless. Then to no lynch at all.

Jury (Delenn):

There would have to be game throwing for town to be near lylo.

Jury (Delenn):

You're trying to scare a neutral killer to get the mislynch you want.

Court (ika):

NEUTRAL KILLING CLAIM YOUR ROLE. I CAN COORDINATE YOUR ACTIONS TO HELP YOU IF YOU HELP US LYNCH HEARTLESS.

Jury (Delenn):

This Delenn wagon is crap. Why don't you want to wagon someone else TTH? Order isn't just what you want.

Jury (Heartless):

With the anonymous posting and voting, we don't really have much room for Devil's advocate here. It's important to find a lynch we can rally around. If you have any serious misgivings about it, it's crucial you articulate it clearly because otherwise you're just tying town's arms together.

Jury (Heartless):

I'm not sure if Antihero's right about Titus but I do think he's right about Runner. Post 146 was a non-stance on the massclaim issue and the jump onto Spiffeh in Post 148 is underwhelming to say the least. Is this something everyone could get behind? -TTH

Jury (Heartless):

Titus, can I ask you what the fuck you're doing besides being spiteful? The neutral killer isn't going to be able to force a no lynch because the threshold is going to go down by one.
Stop it. -TTH

Court (ika):

NEUTRAL CLAIM ROLE!

Court (ika):

WE NEED TO REACH A LYNCH!

Jury (Delenn):

TTH, How can I put forth another candidate? I have put forth other people and you ignore me to shout off vitriol about how I am confscum because scum want to use me for a meat shield and I disagreed with you.

Jury (Delenn):

I have suggested Dave because of his contradiction regarding the jester lynch. You ignored it. I could get behind that but right now I am voting no one.

Jury (Delenn):

Lynching Runner I would also be down with.

Jury (Delenn):

Nice to see you at least coming to the table to talk.

Jury (Davsto):

Okay here's why Titus is scum: if she were Town then scum would've figured that lynching her now will mean that they can lynch Heartless unresisted next phase, since they then have majority without the town resistance. You guys got it?

Jury (Delenn):

Or they could still lynch Heartless and have a vig shield.

Jury (Delenn):

For the love of god Anti, your way isn't the only way.

Jury (Heartless):

As a sign of good faith, I'm switching our vote over to Runner, Titus. If you're town and you really think it is preferable to just let us die than vote Runner, then I ask you don't sign up for any more games with me (because apparently that's how little you think of me).

Jury (Heartless):

I'm actually with Anti that ika is likely the judge here. I would have to think that ika, as town, would be pitching an absolute hissy fit about now. Also, no one's shown up with ika's posting style outside the all caps poster. -TTH

Jury (Heartless)

voted for

Runner

.

Jury (Davsto):

Also the way she seems to be trying to convince the neutral killer to vote Heartless over herself and not actually putting forwards a candidate to be lynched over those two is horrible.

Jury (Delenn):

TTH, suppose I am not lynched. What do you think will happen?

Jury (Delenn):

I will be targeted by every known killer in the game, town and scum alike. So by lynching me, scum are done a disservice because they have to worry about that. Scum are never voting me and you know it.

Jury (Delenn)

voted for

Runner

.

Jury (Delenn):

Good faith showing.

Jury (Heartless):

@Titus: I'm very unsure about Davsto right now. Antihero seems to think he's town but there's a couple things I don't care for: the Spiffeh vote and the rough transition onto Shiro. I think he very well could be scum but I think Runner is a higher probability play for now. -TTH

Jury (Delenn):

Ika could be the judge. I am rather confused there.

Jury (Delenn):

On one hand, ika produced content which he hasn't done in the past few games as scum. On the other hand, the judge isn't raging to vote me which is an ika requirement.

Jury (Jeanne11):

So killing roles will target protective roles? Then I'd better disappear.

Jury (Heartless):

Anti hasn't been posting, Titus. I know he's busy doing something else. Please shut up and listen for a second.

Jury (Heartless):

I'm very well aware that scum aren't going to bus. That's why I'm trying to find common ground. Another thing we could do that would give us a lot more breathing room for the third lynch is to judge hunt. What's your current opinion of who that is? -TTH

Jury (Jeanne11):

I am using my action on ika as soon as the night arrives.

Jury (Davsto):

If we think ika is the Judge, isn't he the best choice for today? Since this will last the rest of the Day - including the next lynch - it's probably clever to get him out of the way so that we can properly vote the next, without scum having the Judge giving an extra three votes and the ability to vote anonymously.

Jury (Davsto)

unvoted.

Court (ika)

voted for

Delenn

.

Jury (Jeanne11)

voted for

Runner

.

Jury (Heartless):

Regarding ika: He's recently been subverting his lurking scum meta. Here, he wouldn't even be "scum" per se. Technically he'd be a third party, anti-town survivor that could win with the mafia or neutral killer. I also think ika is very strategic and would play to his win condition regardless of if that meant voting you or not. Right now, the Judge is very much playing to his win condition.

Jury (Heartless):

Really, the fact that no one on the jury has shown up with his writing style and the court's is very much his writing style is making me very confident that ika is the judge.

Jury (Delenn):

Should we test if ika is the judge?

Jury (Delenn):

Someone "Jury" with ika's posting style should show up if we wagon ika?

Jury (Delenn):

Ok. Let's wagon ika and get back to normal voting.

Jury (Delenn)

voted for

ika

.

Jury (Delenn)

voted for

Heartless

.

Jury (Jeanne11):

I am up for that.

Jury (Jeanne11)

voted for

ika

.

Jury (Davsto)

voted for

ika

.

Jury (Delenn)

: 326 was me. Sorry forgot to sign.

Jury (Delenn)

: ~Delenn

Court (ika)

voted for

Heartless

.

Jury (Shiro):

So what have I missed what are we doing ?

Jury (Shiro):

Jury (Shiro):

This remind me of Lightkeeper in EM and it is really fun to watch the chaos xD. Poor Nether though

Jury (Delenn)

: We're lynching ika because he's the judge.

Jury (Delenn)

: ~Delenn

Jury (Delenn)

: Something hinky is going on here. I think scum were stupid and trying to lynch me.

Jury (Delenn)

: Mod: Can we get a nameless vote count?

Jury (Delenn)

: ~Delenn.

Jury (Jeanne11):

Noodles! I love noodles! I devour noodles!

Jury (Jeanne11):

Jury (Jeanne11):

Noodles go well with squid meat. Guess what you get when you translate 'squid' into Japanese?

Jury (Jeanne11):

Oh, and if I find out you were stringing us along the whole time, you are up next, Delenn. *wags finger at Delenn* - Sonya

Jury (Delenn)

: Huh? Who is Sonya? I already have to deal with VCA being ruined, the last thing I need is this shit.

Jury (Shiro):

Am I the only one not fully trusting this ~sign bussiness ?

Jury (Shiro):

Anyone can sign as anybody to be honest

Jury (Jeanne11):

Sonya is me. In order to avoid us being targeted, that's all info you will get.

Jury (Heartless)

voted for

ika

.

Jury (Bins)

voted for

Runner

.

Jury (Aristophanes)

voted for

Heartless

.

Jury (Aristophanes):

from neutral killing

Jury (Aristophanes):

Holy crap, what is going on!?

Jury (Aristophanes):

Do we seriously have to make two lynches this way?

Jury (Aristophanes):

Why don't we all name a player or two we think is scum and vote whichever gets the majority, that way we can keep track of this shit.

Jury (Delenn)

: Klingon will be doing most of our posting at this point because I am vla with the flu tomorrow. I will be watching occasionally.

Jury (Delenn)

: ~Titus

Jury (Davsto):

We don't have to make two lynches this way if we get ika - the Judge - lynched, I think. Or at least, we won't have to put up with a triple-powered scum-motivated vote. Hence, town really need ika dead, for our own good.

Jury (Delenn):

why arey ou voting for me you pepple have no idea the rage i'm feeling now. dont listen to scum.

Court (ika):

MAFIA VOTE RUNNER OR NO?

Jury (Delenn)

voted for

Heartless

.

Jury (Delenn)

voted for

ika

.

Jury (Delenn)

voted for

ika

.

Jury (Delenn)

voted for

Heartless

.

Jury (Delenn):

Why does everyone vote for Ika and Heartless? Where's that davsto wagon?

Jury (Jeanne11):

Sonya is baaacckkkk! You missed me?

Jury (Jeanne11):

How many votes are required to reach a lynch? Because there are quite a few on ika.

Jury (Shiro)

voted for

Bins

.

Jury (Aristophanes):

Judgey do we vote ikey or runny now

Court (ika)

voted for

Ankamius

.

Court (ika):

TO THE NEXT SCUM MY ALLIES

Court (ika):

NEUTRAL KILLING CLAIM SO TONIGHT I CAN HELP YOU. SCUMS CLAIM I CAN WORK OUT ACTION TO OPTIMIZE US

Jury (Shiro):

Jury (Bins):

They're probably gonna pile on me (Bins) now because I'm the next confirmable. So... pick who we rush?

Jury (Shiro)

voted for

Ankamius

.

Jury (Delenn)

voted for

Ankamius

.

Jury (Davsto):

Curious as to the rush of Ank votes. Is this a town-motivated or scum-motivated rush and, either way, why him?

Jury (Davsto):

Yeh, looks like Ank is scum-motivated, considering the Vigilante claim.

Jury (Davsto):

See, this is why I said we should have planned who we went for next.

Jury (Davsto)

voted for

Runner

.

Jury (Delenn):

THAKNS FOR REMEINDING ME THAT IM PATETIC AND DUMB. I WORK AND COME BACK TO THIS. FUCK YOU ALL.

Jury (Ankamius):

Whoever the third party killing role is, you are literally the worst. Unless you already have a good idea who the scumteam is, you're losing yourself the game by going this route. If you want to win in any way whatsoever, you will work with town to eliminate the scumteam, because you have to be aware that ika doesn't actually give a fuck about you; he just needed your vote now so he could win with the scumteam. You fucked up big time and I hope you have a plan to fix this, because otherwise you just lost both yourself and town the game.

Jury (Ankamius):

-Ank

Jury (Delenn):

Popping in real quick but I am not sure the judge is ika. 356 looks like ika talking. Maybe that's my flu though. Who should we be lynching? If you're sure ika's the judge, where is your ika vote?

Jury (Delenn):

~Delenn

Jury (Davsto):

I'm willing to bet that "ika-looking" post was scum faking it to avoid an ika. The reason we're not voting ika now anyway is because it's more important to get Mafia/Killing Neutral out of the way than it is to get a Judge killed, since the Maf/Neut have night actions while the Judge will be powerless after today. Us town are going for Runner but I highly doubt we'll manage it before scum get their way with Ank.

Jury (Ankamius):

Don't hunt for the neutral killing role under any circumstances. Whoever that slot is HAS to work with town after tonight. After I'm dead, that slot will be scum's and judge's biggest threat.

Jury (Ankamius):

RE: Why I'm not voting ika: It's pointless, but I'll play along just in case.

Jury (Ankamius):

-Ank

Jury (Ankamius)

voted for

ika

.

Jury (Runner)

voted for

Ankamius

.

===

I just noticed that there was a point when

ika

voted for

Delenn

and

Delenn

was at 6 votes. If

Heartless

didn't switch earlier to

Runner

then

Delenn

would have been lynched.

[Davsto]

Delenn played that masterfully, with the faking of others' posts.

[Titus]

Thank you.

[Klingoncelt]

*gigglesnort*

[Klingoncelt]

That was the funnest part of the game.

[Jeanne11]

I just realized I could have implicated Delenn as being scum by using her name to do it. :/

[Klingoncelt]

Yeah, there were a couple of fatal slips that the entire Town and the Neutrals all missed.

*evil chuckle*

[Titus]

I just realized I could have implicated Delenn as being scum by using her name to do it. :/

In theory, yes. In practice, you'd have a hard time emulating me as the entire audience knows my voice and you lack the inherent knowledge of my meta.

[Netherspite]

I just realized I could have implicated Delenn as being scum by using her name to do it. :/

In theory, yes. In practice, you'd have a hard time emulating me as the entire audience knows my voice and you lack the inherent knowledge of my meta.

I guess he could emulate

Klingoncelt

.

[Jeanne11]

Ah well, I can do it in the next game that;s sure to come up eventually. *evil chuckle*

[Netherspite]

Ah well, I can do it in the next game that;s sure to come up eventually. *evil chuckle*

Chance of getting the judge is relatively low.

[Netherspite]

There are other fun combinations of roles possible though.

[Jeanne11]

@Titus Maybe, but I do know that as town you're angry when accused and as scum, you are calm when accused. Since I have those traits myself, it wouldn't have been as hard. I think we mirror each other in that venue.

[Titus]

I just realized I could have implicated Delenn as being scum by using her name to do it. :/

In theory, yes. In practice, you'd have a hard time emulating me as the entire audience knows my voice and you lack the inherent knowledge of my meta.

I guess he could emulate

Klingoncelt

.

Nah. Klingon had the wrong hours. Klingon being awake wouldn't work. Plus, I would just state that's not Klingon and prove it for the same reasons.

[Titus]

@Titus Maybe, but I do know that as town you're angry when accused and as scum, you are calm when accused. Since I have those traits myself, it wouldn't have been as hard. I think we mirror each other in that venue.

My anger level is proportional to the likelihood of lynch.

[Jeanne11]

Well, so is mine.

[Jeanne11]

And you don't know the true me at all, or the true way I deal with things. I am a swindler. Just look at N 1598.

[Titus]

Feed my scummy brain.

[Jeanne11]

Well, you're not the only one with experience, you know.......

[Titus]

Yup. I know. I love to learn. That's what I was saying.

[Jeanne11]

And I still haven't forgotten about that face-off you promised me. We shall have it right now.

[Jeanne11]

So go sign up for ika's game so we can have it. Shiro is dere too, so we can have an epic battle.

[Titus]

I'm not doing an ika mod game, but I otherwise accept your rematch challenge.

[Jeanne11]

Unless you sign up for that, we can't face-off. This person here is restricted to three games at the time.

[Titus]

What games are you in now? I frequently sub in and will watch those.