Large Normal 216 - Endgame

[Nosferatu]

Nosferatu, Sephiroth, Dva, FA_Q2 would be my guess. It would be 4 scum in a 19 player list right?

wish i fucking was given how i need a goddamn key phrase to confirm in a normal game with no special rules whatsoever

[Nosferatu]

VOTE: inferno

[Nosferatu]

Nosferatu, Sephiroth, Dva, FA_Q2 would be my guess. It would be 4 scum in a 19 player list right?

wish i fucking was given how i need a goddamn key phrase to confirm in a normal game with no special rules whatsoever

Oh, atleast I'm not the only one who struggled to confirm

how many tries did it take you

i tried 3 times before i got it

read the rules like 5 before I saw that it was in between rules 17 and 18

because i read by number like what i assume a regular fucking person would do

[Nosferatu]

just stack associatives as far as you can

[Nosferatu]

oh yeah he's really gonna notice it now that you bolded it

[Nosferatu]

Yes, thats generally the effect of bolding someones name as the first word in a post. Is there some reason you feel the need to quip about it rather than contribute something worthwhile to the discussion?

first off no

im making quips because of how laughably dumb that is

one thing is if you bolded it to make it apparent you were addressing him in particular

another is if you wanted to catch his attention so you made the text bigger

you literally bolded has name in the post under it and then you acted like this was going to be the flare in the darkness that would catch his attention

simply bolding a name makes almost no noticeable difference when your eyes are glazed over and you're scrolling down, its the same size and the thickness difference is literally pixels

go somewhere else with your self-righteous "instead of contributing to discussion" bs

[Nosferatu]

Does an AP wagon truly need a reason?

You're gonna learn to read me right the hard way. (Unless -of course- if you've rolled scum again)

can we policy this?

[Nosferatu]

Enigma, why are you townreading Nosferatu?

I think as scum it would be very nuanced to use the difficulty of confirming roles for town. As opposed to mafia whom could confirm in their pt pregame.

this is like wack/10

pedit: apparently calling an idea dumb is an "attack on your intelligence." wild how hard someone can buzzword their way through any conversation.

[Nosferatu]

Sorry but no thanks. We're 200+ posts into a game of mafia and you have yet to say anything of consequence other than to pick up a literally irrelevant detail in how I posted, just so you could get a much coveted chance to call another person dumb (again, ignoring for now how objectively wrong you are about the point in question.)

you have also done nothing and youre actually posting so how about nah lmfao

[Nosferatu]

overwatch is an expensive tf2 ripoff

VOTE: vote: carca

overwatch is an expensive tf2 ripoff

League of legends is better than over watch.

VOTE: garmr

VOTE: dva

Flubb why are you voting Creature instead of dva now? I wanted to sheep the first vote.

Why am I scum Sephiroth?

I'm sheeping 111. Dunno if you're scum yet.

Heroes of the Storm is a far superior MOBA, don't @ me

Never played it. But I do like diablo 2's necromancer.

You should give it a shot sometime. Its pretty different but I think the XP/leveling system is more streamlined and less frustrating

Flubb why are you voting Creature instead of dva now? I wanted to sheep the first vote.

I want creature locked into exactly what they are trying to convey with their records, and a wagon is a good motivation for that

Fair enough. I'm being kind of a hypocrite voting dva anyways since I'm talking about HotS above

VOTE: creature

Hey creature do you mind going through at least one of the slots and explaining which posts fall in which category and why? I understand the idea of a like/dislike/null paradigm but I want to see what the thought process is. Its really just kind of a black box right now and I'd like it to not be entirely.

look at this quality content my guys

"why are you voting x"
"im sheeping x"
"can you explain x"

all amazing posts that are truly exposing scum

wow. im so ashamed that im not catching scum 200 posts into the game like this guy

[Nosferatu]

im not even cherry picking cause the other posts are just nothing at all and it would be unfair of me to rag on him for that

[Nosferatu]

{creature}
{flubber, garmr}
{dva, rce}
{profii, lily, max, seph}
{ct}

>Scum!Creature would use this reasoning to active post initially in a game, then would nightkill everyone who townread him based on this meta reason, and then go back to scum!lurking with the entire graveyard saying he's locktown based on meta.

so he's gonna nightkill the whole game? hot take.

VOTE: ct

[Nosferatu]

I'm new to large normals, so is it natural for it to get this many posts in such a short time?

it depends on the playerlist more than anything


side note: i think that creatures reads thing will prove to be unsustainable after this day phase

[Nosferatu]

I'm not arguing that my posts are amazing or the golden standard of scumhunting.

when you complain other people aren't scumhunting when you aren't either, that is self-righteous.

you weren't even poking and prodding. you asked literally 2 questions up til now. you've been actively posting literally nothing and then turn around and go "why did you feel the need to say this and not contribute to discussion."


pedit: they are equivalent. neither of us have done pretty much anything. I guess you could say you have too, now. It's secondary to what I was annoyed about

talk shit all you want about bolding post-hoc somehow catching his attention, but complaining about not being in a discussion is like so wack lol

[Nosferatu]

@sephiroth, for some reason, I think your posts were attempting to tunnel. You also took back what you said immediately after. I don't think those are likely to come from someone who is town.
VOTE: sephiroth, at least for now.

nah doubt

i dont think scum would offer up an iso like that as like "look im doing something" i feel like they would know that they were basically coasting and try to take away attention from it.

so im moving him up in my reads

[Nosferatu]

My issue was more with you choosing specifically to focus on attacking something that you (as far as I can tell) didn't even find scummy instead of just going straight for something like 212. Now I've never played with you before and maybe randomly lashing out at other people's posts over some small detail is how you get off, but to me it shows a lack of interest in scumhunting. Its also amazing the reaction I got from just questioning that quip and your play so far, and to me very interesting that you come out with 212 right after that little argument. Almost like you remembered you're supposed to be scumhunting.

not really?

i was going to wait until page 10 to go back and organize a readslist, which is something I have to do early otherwise I get lost.

i saw that post, replied and then was like "might as well do it now"

"remembering im supposed to scumhunt" argument is like ?? like i got carried away doing nothing at all or something lol

lack of interest in scumhunting is fair i guess cause when i made that initial quip if you wanna call it that i didnt really want to scumhunt

but this turned into a thing so now i did that and will probably promptly go right back to making quips

[Nosferatu]

Not for nothing, but thats a complete misunderstanding of my point. There was never a point where I claimed to be doing a lot. I claimed to be engaging with the game and beginning to scum hunt, and accused you of doing nothing at all.

I don't think you understand how little engagement I was looking for. If you want to accuse someone of coasting take a hard look at your posts up until we started arguing.

you're misunderstanding my point. i think you made posts that could be interpreted as scum coasting. scum would be aware of this and would either a. embrace that theyre coasting or b. misdirect us from that fact that they are. you dont think youre coasting. hence you're not coasting and youre not scum.

I've already conceded that I wasn't doing anything up til now so like pointing it out doesn't really help your case or anything. Not that it really matters that you do at this point cause youre doing something now.

[Nosferatu]

You said that you were townreading me because scum wouldn't point to their ISO and claim to be doing stuff when you responded to 2008. That's the point I was responding to. It was you who decided this was a comparison of you and I rather than me questioning why you had made 0 game related posts at that point in time.

when you said "instead of contributing to any discussion" I took that as an implication that you were contributing, because why would you throw stones when you live in a glass house?

thats why i brought up the comparison to say that you didn't have much in the way of an iso either

[Nosferatu]

fair enough but I would argue that my post to which you originally responded was in fact my first attempt at seriously poking someone. So I had just started to do so when you make your post. I would argue that my house was made of plexi-glass at that point

lmao

[Nosferatu]

Nos, it's me.. Almost50.. you can do better than that. No?

I admit I should have recognized it from the liberal use of

[Nosferatu]

@Nos: for some reason, everytime you type "ct" I go back to page #1 to verify CheekyTeeky is not in the game.

yeah fsr cheeky is always at the bottom of my list

@other ct: im just not trusting your calculator tone this time

[Nosferatu]

The word scumhunt makes me shudder

Nos are you always like this?

only on a full moon

[Nosferatu]

Nosferatu, take my town read and like it.

well when you put it like that

[Nosferatu]

Neither of them tried reading into motivations for the way each is posting.

wrong on like

both fronts but ok

cool

[Nosferatu]

ah the first scum replace out

[Nosferatu]

That is one of the most legitimate replace outs I've seen this week

i legitimately believe he was overwhelmed

i also legitimately believe he is scum

[Nosferatu]

Shatti what do u think Nos' role is

idk why do I have to speculate about roles?

dont be such a stick in the mud

[Nosferatu]

Prodge

honestly im waiting for season 3 cause i binged season 2 like a week ago and i kinda refuse to watch anything on hulu if im paying for ads

[Nosferatu]

what utter bs

my posting hasnt gotten lacklustre cause its the same as when the game started

at least dva has the consistency to not like all of my posts instead of just liking the ones where i argue over dumb shit lmfao

[Nosferatu]

@Performer@Nos

What's your opinion on ct this game. All of us were in NY215: HMS Erebus and got bit by him. My opinion is his opening seems different it's a shift from his usual style.

I don't know. I can't read him. I look at tone a lot and I don't know how to read someone who talks like a TI-84.

If I were a vig I'd shoot him.

[Nosferatu]

lmfao you don't even know what my reasons for scumreading inferno are and "suggesting i should get shot because he can't read me" is a gross misrepresentation of what i said

[Nosferatu]

oh god reading

too much for my puny genz brain smh

[Nosferatu]

your ISO reads like you also see seph as likely scum as well

you cant read

[Nosferatu]

I'm guessing your vig claim is fake too?

I really , really don't like you.

why do people take things that are obviously not true as face value?

this is why we have fake news.

[Nosferatu]

Sepihroth is the big bad, though.

Through my entire read through I was thinking “yup, one of Nosf or Seph are definitely scum”

And it’s Seph.

I'm astounded that people actually read an interaction that was literally getting worked up by emboldened text

and went "yup there's scum there."

amazing

VOTE: max

[Nosferatu]

yeah thats about right actually

mother was right

[Nosferatu]

I get off track when i don't stick to a readlist d1

should update it roughly

pedit: uh tbh i dont really remember. it wasnt a strong read one way or another anyhow. i dont have a read on saud.

[Nosferatu]

{creature, seph, AP}
{flubber, garmr}
{dva, rce}
{profii, lily, max, shat}
{ct}

hi, i was midway through typing this 5 hours ago so ill probably finish deciding what my reads are tomorrow

working draft tbh

also inb4 "he said hes deciding his reads, thats not organic town thoughts"

[Nosferatu]

Nos how come you have ct still in the same position as scum? What's your updated read on seph - any change from before?

hes updated in that one

[Nosferatu]

big words aside, there is only one lynch today

[Nosferatu]

I hope this will be a shining example of how FL is actually not nearly as good at this game as people think he is.

bro i remember this one game i was scum and boon was town but boon thought he was a traitor and scumsided to win us the game lmfao

[Nosferatu]

Nos's one-track mind about CT, which looks like his scum game when he was scum with BBT & Teacher. Garm can attest to that. However, I don't think nos is scum but he's playing really bizarre to say the least, since he's had CT as scum in his list for so long.

not quite sure what u dont understand about my read on ct

i cant read him so im just assuming he's scum

if u want i could remove him from my reads entirely

[Nosferatu]

i got sorta no opinion on flub tbh

[Nosferatu]

wasted

[Nosferatu]

i wanna say if dva is town then flub probably is as well

[Nosferatu]

FL is too advanced and too professional to sink to using some ridiculous move like that

who's gonna tell him?

[Nosferatu]

I've seen him twice vote someone simply because others were voting that person.

lol what

[Nosferatu]

bro what did you just do

[Nosferatu]

NEW READLIST! (still pending)

{seph, AP}
{flubber, garmr, performer} << performer
{dva, rce, creature} << creature
{profii, lily, max, shat}
{ct, xx} << xx

not sorted:
inferno
shortaru
q2
ct
ofrhz

[Nosferatu]

521-Fuck off how dare you dismiss my case as painting. I put fucking time and effort and beliefs into that. That case is probably one of the best cases in the game and something you can only dream about achieving in your life.

This statement doesn't seem consistent from someone who agreed with me on a point earlier on a slot that wasn't creature. Especially since it ignores my interactions with proifi,faq and others that aren't about creature. Sure I do mention creature a lot to drum up support but it wasn't like I exclusively talked about creature to coast by like this post implies.

^While it's possible that a bad town could make the points above i don't think it is when combined with the next point. You would think a town shat would move their vote to me since it's like the only point they made. So I think they were just throwing shade and to afraid to argue with someone like me that goes off and drags people into the spot light.

Tries to justify the fact she was lurking her. But if you notice when shat's name is mentioned they seem to pop up and be more active. I would expect town that lurks to drop a post and not change their activity patterns based on what people say.

Her unvote seems convenient here because being on a slot that's being replaced could earn you the attention of others. But if shat actually scum read the slot why not keep the vote on a scum read replacing out doesn't change the alignment. This shows shat is worried about image.

This post feels off but I can't put my finger on it.

This just seems like a attempt to look like they are doing something under pressure. The points in the post just seem like throwing shade as shat doesn't say his scum but throws a lot of points together. Some of them I can agree (bolded) with but 1 or 2 good points aren't exclusively town It's how they are handled and I don't think they are handling it the town way.

bro please don't tell me you put time, effort, and beliefs into 6 points lmfao

one of which being

This post feels off but I can't put my finger on it.

another is BEETLEJUICE


BRO0O0O0O0O0

[Nosferatu]

Fuck off nos 521 is solid and I would say better than what you been doing all game. You picked the weakest thing to give shit about as well because even I admit that's only a gut thing and not a point.

why are you so defensive over literally 4 points

i didnt even read it, idek if its solid, but for damn sure its not worth getting worked up about

[Nosferatu]

VOTE: xx2008

let it be known my scumread on this slot predates all of yours

[Nosferatu]

VOTE: xx2208

orfhz is prob town

[Nosferatu]

Nos was because he was one of my earliest townreads in here & other people were tring him, so I thought scum might visit him somehow.

interesting choice lol

[Nosferatu]

I am only caught up to the early nos/seph interaction, which reads like scum theater to me. It started as an argument about bolding a name (uhhhh) and then turned into really shallow snipes at each other about who has more game forwarding content. Neither of them tried reading into motivations for the way each is posting.

kinda suspect nos/seph here
Scum theatre is some bold word wouldn't be surprise if he flash some tmi with one of them in that read

Based on nos scum meta, I don't recall scum not ever doing scum theater with his buddies...could be wrong though (garm you want to pipe in on that point?)

I did with alisae

they shot me d2/d3 and rode the game off of it

only time that happened to my recollection

[Nosferatu]

{AP, garmr, performer}
{seph, ofrhz, shat}
{rce}
{profii, lily, max}
{ct, xx}

not sorted:
saud
nero
gamma
ct

VOTE: AP

[Nosferatu]

see ya in another 46 hours o/

[Nosferatu]

You have ct as scum AND in not sorted
you have AP as tr AND you voted him
Then you return to coasting

ap wants to die
im not gonna deny him

and we've both talked about ct... i thought u understood his place in the readlist.
i cant read him lol.

[Nosferatu]

@Nos: What's with the sudden flip on me? For real? Why did you take my sarcastic comment literally? I was saying I'm not enjoying my role, and I was frustrated my wagon was growing before I even got what I wanted from Maxous. But then Performer claimed and Maxous would not have said anything, because it was outed he didn't go anywhere anyway, so I also claimed.

i didnt really flip on anything

the gods demand a sacrifice and you were willing even if only in jest

[Nosferatu]

also are we voting max now?

VOTE: max

im voting max now. we need counterwagons for scum to expose themselves.

[Nosferatu]

VOTE: Nos
I don’t like how he’s voting rn

where do u think i should be voting gamma

[Nosferatu]

if im taking ez wagons that seems like a where more than how issue

if i drop a case on max is it no longer an ez wagon?

[Nosferatu]

i dont think that makes sense

then im just really putting effort into an ez mislynch

[Nosferatu]

i think thats faulty thought process

as scum rn it makes more sense to just give bs reasons for people who think like that

[Nosferatu]

I think these two posts seem to contradict one another. reading one posts and then the other , it's pretty clear they don't exactly express the same thoughts.

could you bold like one sentence from each that contradict one another

[Nosferatu]

tf are 11 of you not voting for wtf

[Nosferatu]

or is it just rational people aren't rushing towards a motion detection

that shouldnst stop them from voting literally anywhere else

[Nosferatu]

GE did a light push on nos, then said quickly that he didn't think nos was scum after a short interaction. That looked bizarre.

im just that convincing

[Nosferatu]

profii(2):Garmr;Performer;

why

[Nosferatu]

also if this max lynch goes through, a lily lynch would be nice

[Nosferatu]

that doesnt really justify vanity votes on a stagnant wagon

[Nosferatu]

like hurr durr ur voting cause u want to lynch scum

"because i can" would be nearly equivalent as a justification

[Nosferatu]

Nos what is your scumread on Maxous based on?

him not really doing anything

[Nosferatu]

Im not doing anything either

ur not tryna front

[Nosferatu]

Why are you miquoting me here?
That post was by ap.

u misquoted yourself

that post is by profii

[Nosferatu]

Why are you miquoting me here?
That post was by ap.

u misquoted yourself

that post is by profii

Which post is by Profii

probably the same that that performer mentioned

probably the same subject that hasnt changed from the first time it was mentioned

probably just

I’ll go Maxous / xx / Saudade in that order

[Nosferatu]

i feel u

we cant all be as good at piercing the veil of confusion as i am

it happens to the best of us

[Nosferatu]

I can’t
It was italic, how’d he miss that

tbf who said the quote is kind of irrelevant to the post that nero actually made and the point of caring whose post it eludes me completely aside from nitpicking.

[Nosferatu]

scumread him first!

first in the game!

[Nosferatu]

he's probably gonna flip noobtown though now that i just said that

[Nosferatu]

idc ill policy lynch a thousand noobs for acting scummy cause they dont know how to play before i let one noob scum fly by cause they have the tone of a pez dispenser again

[Nosferatu]

Who’s absent from this list of 12 name?!? Maxous. That is actively staying away from it because partner Profii is pushing them, but Profii was sitting behind other people pushing it more.

fair enough

VOTE: profii

scumreading both of them either way o/

pedit: i guess someone claimed someone dont fucking spoil it until i get there

[Nosferatu]

So Maxous is not scum or any third party.

I'm also a Joat, last night I disloyal vigged Maxous. He's not dead so there's my readflip from day 1 to day 2.

Actually thinking about it my role has about the same utility, so I’m CCing this.
I am a Town Ascetic Disloyal Ninja Babysitter. So I have ability to target a player at night, and if I die and they are scum they die too. So I’m kinda like a disloyal bomb. This role is why I was upset at the quickhammer, as I wanted to crumb a target for last night.
Now why does the mod include a one shot disloyal vig with a role that kinda does the same thing but with more intrigue (the role has to die to take effect) and more effectiveness (Ascetic means I cannot be roleblocked). The simple answer? He didn’t.
VOTE: RCEnigma

hol up

UNVOTE:

pedit: oh really? yikes

[Nosferatu]

i like that hammer actually

ill stand by that one if that was

Nos, Saudade, Gamr ?

lol

[Nosferatu]

add Nos actually

u added that entirely cause of hammer

thats feels over reals my guy

I would appreciate it if we all didn't power-lynch anyone for the next few hours.

hate to break it to ya

[Nosferatu]

What the hell is this game? Is everybody disloyal? This means scum have a GF 99% of the time. How else do they counter 3 disloyal PRs?

.............this raises a big alarm bell.

Godfather is ABSOLUTELY not in normal guidelines.

y does this ring alarm bells anyway

[Nosferatu]

add Nos actually

u added that entirely cause of hammer

thats feels over reals my guy

I would appreciate it if we all didn't power-lynch anyone for the next few hours.

hate to break it to ya

yeah 'oops i hammered on catchup'

sure

because as a slot that was doing ok in being tr d1 i would then active lurk the fuck out of d2

randomly switch my vote

and then lolhammer and pretend it was cause i was catching up

feels over reals my dude, quicker you realise it the better you'll feel o/

[Nosferatu]

interesting

[Nosferatu]

nice to know scum takes a special pleasure out of murdering my townreads

[Nosferatu]

I don't remember a ton of what's going on here. VOTE: Nos
Scum or really bad town.

this doesnt even make sense

how am i bad town for just not having time to play last day phase

[Nosferatu]

only 2 of my reads have even been wrong so far too

[Nosferatu]

So I'm expected to believe the one time you decided to vote *during* your catchup it just happened to be the *accidental* hammer. Keep in mind you didn't set a precedent for how your catchup comes together. Every time you checked in beforehand was to nitpick at a recent argument or two, or deliver a readslist.

So yes it makes sense, don't give me that.

so accidentally hammering makes me bad town?

I didn't really think I needed precedent for catching up, and ive literally never heard of that.

[Nosferatu]

I said this before to profii, as scum hammering like that is so weird and I wouldn't do that

[Nosferatu]

You don't have to, but when you change the way you are playing to perform X action I'm going to call it out.

I'm honestly not even gonna process wtf you mean by this

you're wrong and just i physically cannot discuss this with you further, every letter pushes me closer to stabbing myself

Nero RC ofrhz Nos
Are you guys scum?

i geniunely thought you were dead

[Nosferatu]

Idk. This seems similar to a game I thought I was SK, but was town weak vig.

Nosf was scum there, and I’m getting similar vibes.

Wow he never mentions that game o.o

i mean i did this game lol but ok

[Nosferatu]

hi

i think saudade is town

im replacing out

because i dont think ill have the time motivation or actual mental health to keep playing this game


bye