large normal 219: COOL NEW ANIMALS (done!!)

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VOTE: sickofit

how dare u, its beautiful

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good vote

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Are you shitposting?

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i think sickofit is basically conf-scum at this point tbh

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i think sickofit is basically conf-scum at this point tbh

It`s not yet revealed but he is a scum treestump, so he only gets to post in the game but everyone knows he is confirmed scum and everyone treats him as confirmed scum. Then yeah, I guess your theory isn`t that wrong hm.

Schadd sometimes delay those things a bit but soon I suppose he`ll publicaly confirm Sickofit as aligned with the scum.

Any other slot you have a opinion in?

how would you know he's a scum treestump ahead of time? unless he shared that with you in the scumthread... hmmm....

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saudade seems town btw

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ay lmao

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fumuki can b town

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nom could b lynchbait

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why is axehole still selfvoting

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defend myself from what exactly lol

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ay lmao

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im very confused and very intrigued

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true im really good at catching scum ig

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nero has ur meta changed significantly since i was last on site??

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nero can be town

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u do realize me calling anyone obvscum this early is shitposting, right?
or that i haven't been on site for like 6 months until this month so meta doesn't rlly hold up?
or that i sometimes like to play my reads close to the chest as town?
or etc etc etc

a lot of people who know me super well can't consistently meta me so what makes you think you can?

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im actually concerned about buj, i'm p good about reading him and the lack of content has me nervous

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lmao axe this is possibly the funniest tunnel ive ever seen on me

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my entire scum pool feels like lynchbait :/

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axe/nom/eevee/buj/sick are the people i could swing towards rn

eevee particularly reminds me a lot of dram's game for some reason

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there was a dram game that was never finished where i was scum w/ eevee

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buj is the only one that isn't lynch bait ig but he's made like 3 posts and i'll probs get a better read on him later

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it depends on the gamestate rlly, if axe is town and nero is town then scum is in the lurkers for sure because they'd be content w/ this gamestate

but the gamestate could also suggest nero is a town counterwagon to scum-axe

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but he's always a lurker as scum.

qft

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but 4 days is hardly enough to qualify as lurking

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I was scum with evee in one game, maybe it was the fact that I knew she was scum but she felt so obvious. I haven't really got there here but she has been rather useless. She has like one non-troll post.

like that's why I'm SRing her, in the dram game i defended her as lynchbait but here she's doing the same stuff and my instinct is to think "lynchbait" but remembering her scumgame im like wait holdup

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idk how to read roster

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VOTE: axe

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@nero i think it is odd too, they also FoS'd me for the same thing and im just like ??

but a lot of ppl don't know my meta and don't know my activity levels/contributions are all over the place as either alignment

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I'm actually coming around to seeing Nero Cain as town. I think the last few pages have been very good from him.

backing off after being called out for counterwagoning nero

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mhmm sure

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VOTE: Sky

This seems like a fairly obvious scum slot to me, maybe it's more subtle than that, but I don't buy it.

oh cool another naked vote

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So, Skygazer... How confident are you about this 1v1?

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fumuki i miss you

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i was SRing axe before i was asked to join so

is this omgus?

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i would argue that there are people contributing less than me

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i am contributing

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ay lmao

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im def not getting lynched on d1

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i feel like im in the twilight zone or something

like what is even happening in this game

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like anyone who knows me knows this is so beyond my scum meta, like i dont pick petty fights like these as scum because i dont like drawing attention to myself

im getting tilted and like might just start ignoring you soon

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Axe is town btw

is this like a "i would never lynch there" level of town?

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@nom im more tilted at axe not u

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UNVOTE:

i think i get it

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VOTE: buj

come back pls ):

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im not 1v1ing axe anymore but ok

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I feel like this game will be a shitshow.

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It's a shitshow and i'll proudly be part of it you bitch

i like dont know you could u please not call me that

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this game isnt fun

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scum me would have a field day in this game

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this game isnt fun

Welcome back to the site full of lurkers and useless shit posters.

as a lurking shitposter i take offense to that

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VOTE: buj

come back pls ):

What's up sky?

Why are people talking about lynching you?

i mean according to them its "obvious"

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dont harm schadd ):

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i had a hellish two days tho and this game requires a ton of emotional energy so sorry for my absence

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This game most certainly requires a ton of emotional energy

or when some stranger calls you a bitch

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What was so hellish about the last 2 days?

debit card compromised, car broke down on the interstate

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This game most certainly requires a ton of emotional energy

or when some stranger calls you a bitch

Forgive me if I dont buy it

meh whatever

i dont fake AtE, if i need to use one as scum i just genuinely vent

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thats mean

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its just gas itll pass

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This game most certainly requires a ton of emotional energy

or when some stranger calls you a bitch

Forgive me if I dont buy it

meh whatever

i dont fake AtE, if i need to use one as scum i just genuinely vent

I agree.
Which is what I've said, you vented out how emotionally hard this game is as hard.
Thank you for your confession we'll rid you of your troubles with the rope =]

bruh i care much less about catching votes as scum than i do as town, usually because pressure dissipates quickly and i dont take it personally since hey im just caught

when a bunch of players start scumreading me as town because "it's obvious" and calling my frustration with the game fake and like you seem to hate me for some reason??? (don't know why, can't remember what i did in schadd's game we played together but I was scum so if i did something i figured there would be less hard feelings since i was,, you know,, scum) then yeah im gonna get tilted

and one of the players i like and can read is lurking so i feel obligated to vote them even tho theyll probably be one of the few reasons this game could be fun for me :l

and im p sure fumuki site flaked so thats meh

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buj help me TR you please

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have you um even been reading my posts

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ok why is buj town

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lower post count but if he's sick and is actually town that'll probs change, i feel like he's going for a LHF vote with you esp when i have reason to believe ur town, and the gamestate indicates that scum are fine with the wagons because no strong counterwagons are forming which would indicate that scum are in the lurkers

also i really think he'd push me more for SRing him for lurking rather than just waving away the fact that he was lurking, from what i remember he likes to push ppl SRing him when he's town and tends to avoid it as scum

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phone posting

I've noticed you tend to push back on me usually when I SR you when you're town, even if the argument is fmpov valid. could be remembering wrong.

im TRing axe/nom for reasons. I had Saudade as obvtown until i had a reason to TR them. i could be completely wrong on axe/nom if im reading too much into things but i dont think i am? im just really confused by my wagon cause all three seem so town

i didnt realize axe only had two votes now, thought he was higher

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yeah thats why im TRing you, not willing to say publicly why but yeah

should I not be TRing you? am i reading too much into things??

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i mean saudade is town for meta reasons, nom/axe are town for secret reasons. i feel like gamestate wise theres scum there but im not even going to try to sort them

axe/nom/saudade are very much not buddyable/p stubborn so id be better off trying to counterwagon axe if i were scum so

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i still have yet to see any actual reason for why im scum lol

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i wouldve liked to see more ppl on buj but

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UNVOTE:

i think i get it

VOTE: buj

come back pls ):

buj help me TR you please

im TRing axe/nom for reasons. I had Saudade as obvtown until i had a reason to TR them. i could be completely wrong on axe/nom if im reading too much into things but i dont think i am? im just really confused by my wagon cause all three seem so town

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Skygazer

Other thoughts:

Wizard's ISO has exactly zero of value in it apart from the RB claim (real or not, they've never addressed this) and an OMGUS on Axe. 99.99% odds they're either not an RB, not town, or both

Oof reading thru Eevee's iso and it's pretty bad.
1st half is not content
2nd half is mixed between empty questions and just bad content
I'm probably gonna vote here lemme check vote count first tho, because tbh this game is a bore keeping up with

This is accurate.

Roster's ISO is similarly utterly devoid of content and just poking at random people with "minimal reasons", promising to "start trying soon", lots of bouncing around and not anything of actual value

Sky/Wizard/Eevee/Roster is where I'd expect to find scum today, wasn't hot on Fumuki but given their apparent flake will w&s on that slot

is it wrong to want one of the few ppl here i know and like to be town so i dont have to lynch them and be left nearly friendless?

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flavor leaf what game did we play in together i remember ur name

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nvm you were a mason in ircher's large normal

weird that its only 6 numbers later after that many months

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"vibing"

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claiming now because im kinda busy today and dont wanna get lolhammered when ill literally be conftown tomorrow

im a friendly neighbor

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ive been playing kinda slayer's gambitty to get reactions but didnt realize id actually be in danger of being lynched D1

will effort post tonight but please unvote

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well if that happens then just lynch me tomorrow ig?? not sending it to someone in danger of being NK'd and ill probs be NK'd anyways now

i honestly didnt see me being wagoned this far this early since the main arguments against me were "its obvious," i was hoping to get wagoned D2/D3 when its provable

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semi slayer's gambit meant that im kinda slowrolling the scumminess

genuinely didn't see my wagon going this far when it started with a bunch of stubborn players saying its obvious

and when amn hopped on i tried to slow it down a bit but this game genuinely isnt fun and my life is a wreck and i dont know how to townspew so

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anyways

a conftown player being pushed to L-1 generates a fuck-ton of info so im still not kicking myself for how this went down

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see yall later when i can get to my laptop

anyone hammering me is confscum

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Skygazer (7): NotAnAxehole, nomnomnom, Saudade, KidAmn, rosterfoster, NerfedBuJ, bob3141
NotAnAxehole (2): TheWizard, Nero Cain
Performer (1): RuiRui
EeveeLution Army (1): Sickofit1138
nomnomnom (1): Flavor Leaf
NerfedBuj (1): Skygazer
RuiRui(1): Performer
rosterfoster (1): EeveeLution Army

So:

I think it's likely that with three scum, there's probably 1 or 2 scum on my wagon here, but all three scum on my wagon is unlikely. My wagon seemed kind of stagnant with just Axe/nom/Saudade and really picked up after Amn's vote which makes me think that Amn/roster/buj/bob have much higher scum equity than axe/nom/saudade. This rough gamestate read also lines up with my reads on Axe/nom/Saudade so I'm thinking that in all likelihood there's one or two scum in [Amn/roster/buj/bob], with two scum there being slightly more likely due to the speed of the wagon today.

This next point assumes Axe is town (hoping I'm not shooting myself in the foot but I am assuming this due to something I picked up that would be bad for the town if I discussed it), and assumes there's probably one scum that's voted for him today. That pool would be myself/buj/nero/TheWizard. Considering Buj is in both pools, plus considering that I have other reasons to SR him (what I talked about earlier, plus his vote on me was absolute ?????), his scum equity is super high. TheWizard's low post count gives him higher scum equity as well. I know that I'm town and I have a townread on Nero because his thoughts/actions seem genuine and because meta.

I really don't like how Sick throws out a random eevee vote while most of his posts were talking about not liking me. It feels like he wants me lynched without actually wanting to deal with jumping onto a wagon that's picking up.

Roster jumped onto my wagon because he was "vibing." I was more concerned with that at first but that feels like it'd be kind of a blatant move if he were scum here so I'm TRing him for that tbh. I'm more worried about bob, placing me at L-1 without announcing it and it felt like his short little snippet about me was him feeling obligated to explain why he's hopping onto a wagon without looking scummy. I don't really see two scum hopping onto my wagon back to back though, so I feel like Buj/bob can't be S/S.

Right now my solve is something like one of [bob/buj], sick, ???
wizard/amn can also fit in there somewhere but I don't see wizard/buj as scum together because they were both on axe at the same time. amn has higher scum equity because they, like bob, felt the need to justify their vote on me for some reason because no one else was.

I think axe calling my claim into question is town because scum would know my claim is real and would want to back off so they don't have to deal with the optics of mislynching a friendly neighbor.

tldr: my vote on buj is staying and I should be sheeped here

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Townpool (I'm much better at townreading correctly than scumreading correctly): [saudade slot]/axe/nom/nero/roster/performer/flavor leaf

Will dive more into reads tonight

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Why did you find fumuki scummy?

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I think axe calling my claim into question is town because scum would know my claim is real and would want to back off so they don't have to deal with the optics of mislynching a friendly neighbor.

I don't think he really did this. And scum have plenty of motivation to unvote you as they would look super fucking bad for trying to push your lynch.

that latter part is what im saying, yet before he felt the need to unvote he went out of his way to point out that my claim was something that wasn't disprovable if i were scum

seemed like he put some thought into it rather than just insta-unvoted to look town

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I really don't like how Sick throws out a random eevee vote while most of his posts were talking about not liking me. It feels like he wants me lynched without actually wanting to deal with jumping onto a wagon that's picking up.

My posts on you came later, and my Eevee vote was in conjunction with the previous post on my ISO.

Ik it was a good minute after but keep in mind I'm on mobile and doing anything is a hassle, I said I was probably gonna vote there and the previous post and I did when I got back on the next day *shrugs*

it v much looked like you had more reason to vote me tho

coupled with the fact that you felt the need to check the votecounts before voting eevee, it made me think ur worried about the optics of joining a wagon
also theres the fact that u didnt start SRing me until after u checked the votecounts which is when u'd see im being wagoned lol

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I'm looking at performer's posts and it's hard for me to reason moving my vote somewhere else - They look like scum to me

what do you see there that's scummy

why is ur vanity wagon better than any of the people that could actually be lynched today

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speaking of vanity wagons i should probs

VOTE: sick

since no one is interested in buj ig

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VOTE: buj

buj i really dont see how you thought i was town

i was literally being open about going after lynchbait and flailing over my wagon

and thats a really weird flex to lynch a player ur confident is town (which reeks of tmi) to stick it to all the other players

like i said, i have reasons to TR axe/nom and don't want to out them

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Like if you had played with sky before that's it you're scum 100%.

but this implies you had a meta read on me too

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i think he backpedaled after i told him he has no reason to TR me by claiming it was a gamestate read when his other posts contradict that by implying it was a meta read

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i mean im not sure how that turns into axe being scum if he had played w me before tho?

i do really wish you had rolled town here, early day was a cluster and i did genuinely want you to be town so i wouldnt have to lynch you

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and like the fact that my reads are being ignored because axe still sees me as scum is like ??? and he seems stubborn enough that i'll probs still be ignored by him even when im conftown lol

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like axe

i can think of a better claim than something that would get me instalynched D2 as scum

im good at longterm survival and good at making wagons go on me go away

the only time i've died as scum as far as i can recall (other than conceding due to mechanical loss upon replace-in) was getting killed by an SK who thought I was townish

so can you please trust my buj/sick reads since ill be conftown tomorrow anyways?

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scratch that i was also lynched over a guilty in a newbie once

also fine but can u consider sheeping me if scum kill me tonight

pedit: yay

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i agree that i do tend to sort friends first/better

also agree that interacting with certain people as scum terrifies me but im trying to get better at interactions

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ughhhhhhh

that directly contradicts your read primarily being based on gamestate

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turst

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VOTE: sick

tunelling sucks :l

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prodge :3

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(ill b on 2nite or 2morrow)

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hi krazy im dad

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hi krazy im dad

Hey sky how u?

Before I read I thought you were town cause of long posts but then I realized your long posts were under a lot of pressure so hmm

How u read amn skydad?

amn scummy

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im being very lazy rn

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actually am at work so like dont hammer until i can get home and make an effort post

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It’s zero...i’ll Just claim Day 3 IC if I seem to be going down

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whoops meant to post that in my scum pt

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im home gonna read now

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pagetop lol

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wait wizard's claim is serious?

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wagon is town af

saudade was town af because he's much less aggressive as scum unless he changed his meta significantly since i've been gone

wagon is playing to his town meta as i understand it but i dont remember any krazy scum games so

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hi krazy im dad

Hey sky how u?

Before I read I thought you were town cause of long posts but then I realized your long posts were under a lot of pressure so hmm

How u read amn skydad?

im wondering why u would out ur meta read on me this early in the game or at all considering u could just wait and see if i longpost more or wait for me to be conftown

anyways to expand on the amn read i don't like how they hopped on my wagon which i talked about before and they seem to be active-lurking and i dont like their reaction to ur vote

and they have scum equity for their placement on my wagon anyways (iirc the 4th vote)

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Unashamed prodge. Work has been kicking my arse, and I need another few hours to decomp.

All I'll note at this point is that Wagonomics

still

hasn't presented a case to go with his vote.

like how axe/nom/saude didn't case me at all before you hopped on my wagon?

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im wondering why u would out ur meta read on me this early in the game or at all considering u could just wait and see if i longpost more or wait for me to be conftown

eh I entered the game calling you town sky and realized that my read wasn't that strong actually

I actually hadn't processed the claim at that point, friendly neighbor would be a wild fakeclaim

I think you probably are townsky tho now so I'm almost back to where I was before

I think boon/you/me is a townblock
Nero I think is almost there but since I'm still butthurt from extra I'll need to sift that a bit more but probably

Axe probably has a green role pm but I'm not bothering to call him town rn

Roster decent probtown read even tho the "axe lynch on wiz greenflip" bugged me a bit, still above average town equity

I'm relatively close to your PoE from midgame ... I think a few more confident reads there and we can get the game pretty solvable before lylo

Nom and rui are town candidates altho I have little familiairity with either

Feel like at least 2 scum are playing to be forgettable, so we need to sort the lurky forgettable town from the lurky forgettable scum at some point. sick could go either way here but I frankly have no idea how to sort that slot better quite yet, your push there did make me think about it some though

Wiz I am honestly not sure on, I probably would be fine with that slot going because of the copypasta if it was literally anyone other than axe pushing it

Kid/ELA/Wiz/sick who else am I forgetting that is in the "sort the low impact slots from each other" pr iority pile ... Oh yeah rui and nom kinda fall into this I think I just sorta leaned town on them for a minut e but need to solidify

can you talk to me about boon? i dont know how to read him
agree w/ nero/axe/roster id also throw nom in there for reasons
our reads r very similar here

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not sure if ive ever seen scum actually try to set up chain lynches anyways lol

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im slowly crashing i might actually go to bed at a reasonable hour for once

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Oh right bujaber/performer/bob

Sad day when I temporarily forget performer is in the game

I do thi nk bujaber has decent equity for how he responded to the 1v1 but you moved off buj for sick right? Is sick still lower than buj for you?

Let's reread bob real fast

idk i forgot about buj for a hot minute until just now

i hate larges

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i think i was liking buj more recently but i should reread that interaction where i unvoted him

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This is a giant false equivalency and I think you know that, but OK, I'll bite: None of those 3's reasons or lack thereof to vote you changes the fact I had reason to SR you, which I gave.

I'll also note that you aren't denying that Wagonomics gave no case for voting me initially, or that his further reasoning can be summed up as "It doesn't matter that I never gave a reason for voting you, because you called me out for not giving a reason and that's now my reason for voting you in the past."

i mean i was shitposting but here we go

pressure votes are a thing and wagon not liking ur response to a naked vote is a valid reason to SR you

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How good do you feel about nom? 75%? Or lower?

enough to not wanna lynch them today but i could also be reading too much into things to arrive at the reasons ive arrived at

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not sure if ive ever seen scum actually try to set up chain lynches anyways lol

Not played much mafia, huh.

i mean its hard enough getting to the point where ur trusted enough to be a town leader

but then maintaining that town leader position and going for mislynch after mislynch just doesnt rlly feel like a viable scum strategy because the paranoia sets in after a while

cant say ive played in too many games with deepwolves doin that

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VOTE: wizard

w/e

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sent the friendliness to buj

did u get it

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im too fast

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if the follow up question is why i sent to buj we can get to that soon

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is this a bad time to retract my claim then

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jk

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BuJ is town

assuming i'll be wagoned and flipped it'll be extremely obvious why soon

if im not wagoned and flipped then it'd be too much info for scum to say why

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i mean i can out my full role like eventually

and ill claim if you get wagoned

but otherwise my role would be useless if i claimed

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VOTE: axe

p sure i was reading too much into my axe/nom read at this point

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i kind of did spew too much didnt i

im disloyal friendly neighbor

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kind of obvious why i would check buj there, was wagon's strongest SR and i was going back and forth and just wanted peace of mind on the slot

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i mean

i was getting lynched d1 w/o the ungated fn claim

if i got lucky and hit scum i'd be clear with a guilty

but now we have a clear in buj at least and since im useless at this point im fine w being lynched

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i mean

why would i set myself up to get mislynched d2 as scum

i wouldnt

but at the time staying alive to get at least one result was most important, if i had retracted and claimed VT i would've been instalynched and we'd lose that one result

VOTE: sky

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if i straight up claimed disloyal then i'd be useless, scum would know not to confirm me if they received the message lmfao

i was treating myself as an investigative

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like we can argue about my play postgame but not claiming disloyal was mechanically correct to get my investigative result on BuJ

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kind of obvious why i would check buj there, was wagon's strongest SR and i was going back and forth and just wanted peace of mind on the slot

I'd also like to understand why wag's scumread was the most important to check, given that he only died tonight...

Is that a slip?

krazy was the best player here and i had a heavy TR on his slot

of course im gonna check his SR

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Like, your day 2 claim makes more sense to me than your day 1 claim to be honest, but the fact that you didn't claim it day 1 means you're 100% fake claiming and thought this was another clever trick to stay alive.

If you're VT... I mean, IDK, fake claiming as VT is just... AWFUL.

axe what the fuck

why would i ever claim disloyal friendly neighbor D1??? i'd neuter myself and have an unconfirmable role

fake-claiming to survive to D2 gives me a chance to get a guilty and clear myself or at least get an inno

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so can you see why it makes no mechanical sense to be honest and up front about my role before i get a result

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if i claim disloyal i'd never get any results since my result comes from my target claiming in thread

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i dont even care im getting wagoned but im pissed at axe for saying i played poorly when fakeclaiming was 100% the way to go

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mm Sky you say your a disloyal freindly neigbour rather than a loyal one. If you didnt want to say you were disloyal becuase it would make the role useless. Then why didnt you just say you were simply a freindly neigbour and miss out the disployal/loyal bit. And simply target some you think is scum. Without them knowing the disloyal/loyal part.



Since no one can confirm you and at worst we will get bjue as a confirmed townie.

VOTE: Sky

isnt this exactly what i did D1

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kind of obvious why i would check buj there, was wagon's strongest SR and i was going back and forth and just wanted peace of mind on the slot

I'd also like to understand why wag's scumread was the most important to check, given that he only died tonight...

Is that a slip?

krazy was the best player here and i had a heavy TR on his slot

of course im gonna check his SR

Okay but I don't get it, you had your vote on sickofit for most of the day, and axe was a pretty sr as well. Why check someone's scumread instead? It doesn't make sense at all given how you've interacted this game so far.

i was off and on with buj, it makes much more sense to check ppl that are middling to you and SR'd by others than it does to check ur strongest SRs

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bob ive already explained it

this playerlist is ughhhhav

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fucking finally lol

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VOTE: bob

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@Skygazer,

After review, I don't think you're the best lynch for today. But uhm... If you are in fact fake claiming, please come clean, because that does impact our reads quite a lot I'm afraid.

i'm not fakeclaiming

i would never hard-inno a slot like BuJ as VT

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Conftown

Skygazer (that's me!!)
NerfedBuJ (cleared by me)

Strong Town

Flavor Leaf - Don't know how to read him but I'm trusting Krazy when he said FL could go into our town block, I townread Fumuki anyways so
Nero Cain - Playing to his town meta, I haven't really seen anything that seems like a scum play so far
NotAnAxehole - I forgot that Krazy was so strongly townreading this slot. Also after more posts from today I don't think I'm reading too much into things anymore. Also I think Axe spewed himself as town for aggressively misunderstanding my claim
nomnomnom - I don't feel like they'd play this aggressively here as scum. Also see above at my Axe read.

Weak Town

rosterfoster - Still don't know how to read him that well. I'd look into this slot more if bob flips town for whatever reason but I don't really have anything to go off of other than I don't exactlyyyy like how roster is continuing to defend my claim for me while simultaneously throwing shade
Performer - Like his posts, I don't think scum-him comes into today throwing shade after the sudden shift from me to bob, especially considering bob got voted up for opportunistically voting me. I think scum-Perf would see why bob got voted up and avoid mentioning my slot as much as he has

Scum Leans

KidAmn - still don't like their push on me yesterday, they were the first one that felt the need to actually justify voting for me yesterday and their justification was p meh and comes across as an opportunistic wagon hop-on
RuiRui - lurky, BuJ push seems like lynchbait now that I have a clear there
EeveeLution Army - lurky, reminds me somewhat of dram where we were scum together

Scum

Sickofit1138 - Still not liking him after yesterday. Him just coming into D2 saying we should never lynch me doesn't make much sense, I'd expect some skepticism there from town but instead I got some tmi buddying
bob3141 - Don't like his vote on me, feels opportunistic especially with his nonsensical explanation for it

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bob mentioned zero reads on sick in their posts so far

sick agreed w bob's read on me D1 and then jumped on bob mid wagon today which could easily be a distancing thing considering bob suddenly became the most likely lynch for today

it makes sense, I think scum would jump ship and bus bob midwagon so

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PEdit: "anti-town" after D1 is the dogwhistle of scum with no good lynches going after lazy townies.
PEdit2: [citation needed]

it took you six minutes to trash my read on you and say you need to reread?

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I not would be surprised if Wizard/Axe was TvT all along.

This is unconstructive nonsense, as is attacking me for justifying my vote on you while also attacking me for not properly justifying my vote on you.

Need to reread.

how is me checking buj 'nonsense'

did you even read what i said? the context of feeling you need justification shows your worried about how ppl will perceive ur vote and the weak justification makes that even more sus because it seems like u had a justification simply to have something more than just a naked vote

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Put Performer a step up on that list

perf can def go above roster, not sure about nom

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Hard tinfoil theory that I don’t believe: Skygazer, NerfedBuj, Nero

lol if you replaced my slot with the worst and i was an outsider looking in i'd have that as the scum team tbh

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dont think scum-FL would need to dumbtell here

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catch up 2nite

are we really doing sick over bob

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w/e

VOTE: sick

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can i just say how stupid it is to think you've caught the entire scum team before a single flip

no offense but like

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Actually, BuJ can be scum in a world where Skygazer is VT, because fake claiming as VT is common apparently

i take offense that you think i'd play this badly

again, i'd never inno someone as VT

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disloyal friendly neighbor

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nero/axe interactions are so bad that it hurts

listen

you're both likely town

most ppl agree on that except you two so um

idk

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disloyal friendly neighbor

And he didn’t get a message?

correct, i claimed i sent it to buj at start of day when i was still claiming friendly neighbor

he didnt get it and i got pushed to out so im effectively useless but we have a clear

there's no way scum would lie about that if they had actually got it, scum wouldn't enter a 1v1 with me to get me lynched since they thought i was just fn

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claiming now because im kinda busy today and dont wanna get lolhammered when ill literally be conftown tomorrow

im a friendly neighbor

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im kind of glad i didn't have to play the second-guessing game of targetting people and looking for sudden read changes to find scum

i mean it's only one clear but it's better than *that*

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pagetop

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sorry thought u were SRing axe

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axe: vote sick
nero: no

rinse repeat

hot take: this lasts for two more pages

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nero would it help if i cased sick

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i don't like how sick laid out this big case on me but went with eevee (the smaller wagon) over me, scum don't like joining large wagons because they don't like being seen as opportunistic

he also came in today when basically everyone was still FoSing me saying I should never be lynched which reeks of tmi and like he doesn't wanna catch flak for voting a PR which as scum he would know i am for sure

also like how does he go on and on about his SR about me and proceed to never want to lynch me today? like inconsistency is fine but its way too inconvenient and feels too safe/buddying

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#schaddDidNothingWrong

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i feel like lurkers doing nothing are more likely to be town than lurkers doing something

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probs gonna lay low some more

had to deal with enough tilt in stk's game that just ended...

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'murica

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lets just hammer sick so we can get another flip already

has sick claimed yet

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buj was middling for me, sick was def scummy

I'd rather use my invest on a player that I'm null reading that could maybe lynched than a player thay I'm SRing that will definitely eventually be lynched

"copping" buj over sick is objectively the right play here

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and Buj definitely has survivability if he were scum

like if i cleared sick then, yay, i guess? we get to keep sick? but in all likelihood he flips scum here so itd be a waste of my cop shot compared to buj

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amn you should hammer sick

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Play Advice

It is generally best to investigate players you have null reads on, and let the Day game sort out the players that are very scummy or very Townish.

even the wiki agrees with meeeeer

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and like yeah wagon was voting sick but he literally said yesterdays lynch should be between sick and buj

like if i hadnt copped buj id still probs be torturing myself trying to read him and potentially derailing the game

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inb4 Buj is still scum and sky has a false negative

i feel like scum buj would see the friendly neighbor message, figure it wouldn't be worth lying about it just to get me lynched when it'd make him ridiculously scummy, and end up claiming he received it at start of day

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why rui over bob?

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good talk

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do i have to get tryhardy again

ugj

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Like, is anyone the least bit surprised that I'm a town mason?

*raises hand* I'm not surprised.

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nerfed is conftown

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inb4 Buj is still scum and sky has a false negative

i feel like scum buj would see the friendly neighbor message, figure it wouldn't be worth lying about it just to get me lynched when it'd make him ridiculously scummy, and end up claiming he received it at start of day

that would do nothing but get him insta lynched d2. Also, he didn't get a FN so he's either town or scum that lied.

If axe flips town then nom is the scum

but they are the claimed masons lol.

I don't like Buj's posting today, at all.

Because I was claiming friendly neighbor without my disloyal modifier at the time, if scum had received a friendly neighbor message they absolutely would've claimed it rather than look scummy by not claiming it and having me flip friendly neighbor. I really really really doubt scum Buj would lie and say he didn't receive the message

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I have a townblock of myself/axe/nom/buj as confirmed town with nero as a stronggggg town read

so we have to find the three scum in amn/roster/perf/rui/bob/eevee

if anybody else has any clears we'll have a pretty good solve today otherwise i'm kinda nervous with only 3 mislynches left and this many null-scummy slots

i'd strongly prefer not lynching roster/perf rn personally out of those six but they're no where near the level of my nero read

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i think scum misplayed by not killing the obv-masons or buj

considering im not technically clear i can see why they'd kill FL over me but it strongly implies that FL's reads are better than axes/noms/buj's which is why i'd rather have bob than rui right now

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nvm thought FL was SRing bob

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hmm

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why tf are/were so many people TRing bob

VOTE: bob[/v[

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VOTE: bob

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i don't like bob's opportunism, i don't like how they're posting a lot of words in a way that seems like they're just trying to have a lot of words, and i feel like he's the scummiest out of the four players i wanna lynch rn

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there, i efforted

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I just dont have you in my strong townblock, I very much don't want to lynch you rn

with three scum left still and knowing my scumreads historically arent that great it wouldnt make sense for me to include you or roster in my townblock leaving a scum pool of only 4 people

do you disagree with my nero read?

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i feel like you just skipped over the rest of my post when you saw your name in the pile of 6 people

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in case it wasnt clear (which i guess it wasnt)

right now the only people i could see as possibly scum are in that list of six people. Nero is that one player that isn't clear that I'm extremely confident is town and I'm usually right on my strongest townreads. You're pretty townie. Roster is null-town. I'm scumreading the other four people in order of rui/eevee/amn/bob

so um ur literally my second strongest non-clear townread? but with three scum left still it feels irresponsible to say I'll never almost never lynch you. But I'll almost never lynch Nero barring a scum slip/guilty.

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am i making sense yet

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i feel like having you in my pool of 6 possible scum was misleading ig in terms of how reads are usually presented but all you had to do was read the rest of that post so um

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i never even labeled it as my "scum reads" perf i just said we need to find the 6 scum in that group of people

i dont think you can in good faith say im trying to push you lower and lower when i literally said ur my second strongest non-clear town

and tone is so vague that just jfjekw

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sorry im just tired and tilted rn

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every time i read a post SRing buj/nero/axe/nom i just feel more and more this is going to be a definite town loss