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[NorwegianboyEE]

You know we’d just ignore everything you just said when we see that redflip right?

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Flavour Leaf
L negative 4

[NorwegianboyEE]

I just heard from god almighty himself. He also places a vote on Flavour Leaf.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Aw look. He’s trying to look townie.

[NorwegianboyEE]

a guilty.

ARE YOU SUICIDAL?

I'M TOWN.

I didn't say I have a guilty. Maybe someone else does though, I don't know.

Just wanted to see how you would react

You gave that up way too quick. Disappointing.

[NorwegianboyEE]

@Dolly
Also didn't you have -7 Luca and only -1 Wake?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I can definitely see Scum jumping on my wagon because they think I won't put up much of a fight.

If I get mislynched my wagon will be an excellent starting point.

I'm kinda looking forward to the day you stop talking about how you're a "easy mislynch" and actually start generating some useful content or reads.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Looking back on page 8 i already commented on FL's scumminess and pointed out how he was seemingly setting up a Tea lynch. So i'm thinking Tea is one of my strong townleans right now.

Spoiler:

i have a weird gut feeling we hit scum in Tea for completely wrong reasons and now we’re in a holding pattern because scum’s awkward.

I don’t actually have a Tea read myself

Actually re-reading the game. This post is BIG yikes! Holy shit.

Explain?

It's a bad post because Leaf is lightly shading Tea by claiming we "hit scum" and it's only the reasoning behind the wagon that's not good enough. Yet at the same time he claims he has no opinion on Tea at all. If so:

1: Why claim the wagon "hit scum" if he apparently doesn't have any opinion about Tea's alignment.
2: Why is he sure we "hit scum" in the first place. What sort of logic is he thinking here?
3: Does town have any reason to make this post? This seems like the sort of post scum makes to encourage a wagon on town, but not wanting to take any responsibility for the outcome.

@Dolly i find it interesting how you have Dunnstral and Luka Blight as your primary scumleans according to your opening post, yet is voting for Wake right now.
Looking at how the Wake wagon started it was actually initiated by your scumreads in question:

Wake88 (2): Luca Blight, Dunnstral

Why have you seemingly changed your mind so drastically today?

[NorwegianboyEE]

possible he didnt have daychat so he outed his results at eod too.

consider this to be the main reason to talk about roles.

He outed me as a VT, then went on to cover it up with the other talk.

He outed a lot of people for being a 1-shot rolecop.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Though i don’t recall him outing you as a VT. At what point did he do that?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh, you are Pisskop. Ok i understand.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yeah like i’ve been trying to see Wake as town through the game because he gained votes so quickly. But like the further we get into the game the more he seems like a player in a scum mindset. Especially his newest awful posts when i thought he would activate today because he allegedly "hates day 1" and is "coming for FL’s teammates" but all we get is some lackluster "scum is on my wagon!!" content.

[NorwegianboyEE]

And with that.
VOTE: Wake88

[NorwegianboyEE]

For the sake of a counterwagon.
VOTE: Luca Blight

[NorwegianboyEE]

My vote on you has nothing to do with the Vorkuta vote. I don’t know why it’s brought up. For me it’s more your tone feeling a bit off and scummy. Not to mention how you seemed to be posturing around wagons.

[NorwegianboyEE]

And yeah. Claim?

[NorwegianboyEE]

As in making foregone conclusions that someone would flip town whenever a wagon went up.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Can you explain that thought process a bit more Gamma?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Can you explain that thought process a bit more Gamma?

Why have you suddenly become so low-key?

Because i'm trying to get by with just scumcoasting the game. :^)

Well no, actually it's more like i don't have much on my mind right now. There are also exams coming up in a couple of days. Soooo yeah. Still trying to keep up though.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Wake still hasn't done anything he promised when he became a wagon on D1. Which is annoying. ("Oh it's just the D1 heebies guys, i'll become more active and useful later in the game, i promise!!") Starting to lean him more on the scummy spectrum of things, but want to give him a chance.
A50 weak townlean. I've played with him as town in two games earlier and i don't really see what he does here as too different from his that. Also he's easy to scumread as town. Though i am feeling a bit paranoid of him this game not gonna lie.
Split i've never played with before so i don't have much to say about him really.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Did you want a counter-wagon or do you just want my lynch full-stop, as you seem completely fine with things as they are right now?

I wanted a counterwagon because just having another D1 popular vote get piled onto again doesn't really tell me anything interesting.

Do you think me or Wake are more likely scum?

Still leaning you.

You have no thoughts on Split, but what do you think of his wagon?

Might be worth checking out in the future.
UNVOTE:

[NorwegianboyEE]

Pretty sure he was talking to me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think Dolly is a significantly overrated slot

Ok... Can you elaborate? I feel like everyone is just mumbling mysterious shit these last days and not really explaining why they think the way they do, which is really stalling the gamestate.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Thanks.
In my experience Pisskop (now established to be Dolly) posts with a lot of flaunt and defiance as town. So i'm not too sure i agree. But they are good points you're bringing up.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh. I’m dumb and switched my names.
My bad.
Forget about my earlier point. Dolly might be scummy.

[NorwegianboyEE]

@Tea
Wanna try with me?
VOTE: Dolly

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Dolly

This is my kind of rush. I’m getting a little excited.

I might consider your slot a bit redeemed just because of your nice sense of irony.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Tea, Reundo and Dunnstral are my townreads right now, and if Dolly is scum for her push on Luca, then he’s most likely town.
So yeah, i have faith in this wagon.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You don’t need to think. Just sheep our wagon A50.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m not giving any extra alignment creds for whatever you said A50.
Remember how Nibbui broke down in that C9++ game we had recently? Oh yeah, he was scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

We make a dunnstral wagon (leaving mine alone because it's ain't good for us because we already have established I'm town) so we can sort that slot.

Ok.

We should work together and not against me.

Wow. I didn't think that scum trap would work that quick.

Scum!Dunn couldn't resist pointing that out.

I love this game.

Why is Dunnstral scum fypov?
And why is his reply to your post scummy? Isn’t it something anyone could have pointed out?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also you haven’t really addressed anything Tea said against you in his micro case earlier.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You got a guilty. Why listen to this scum joker?

LYNCH! LYNCH! LYNCH!
VOTE: Flavour Leaf

Does anyone know norway from whatever site they migrated from?

Nobody in this playerlist knows about my off-site meta.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You know we’d just ignore everything you just said when we see that redflip right?

Kind of disliking norway here, and this interaction w/flavor isnt helping.

This coming from the guy that lynched obvtown slots in nomination mafia. I'd sooner trust FL's words in his villainous breakdown rant than your reads.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Everybody loves to SR A50. Well. almost everybody.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh yay. Now my arguing with Tea is going to look even more stupid when re-reading.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Gamma and Tea be looking the most town. Everyone else is ehh.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Are you town Norway?

I’m town. You’re town.
We’re all just one happy town family around these parts.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don’t SR Chennis at all anymore. I might SR actual "you" though, now that you’ve repped into the game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Pisskop’s inexplicable SR on me made up my mind to revisit his slot Fish Monger. And what i found was awful, genuinely awful. Yet almost nobody has given him any scrutiny yet? Come on.
VOTE: Pisskop

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’d go over it, but i’m typing this on my phone at 2 AM while lying in bed. So later. (I always come up with gamesolves n shit while in a half-drowsy state, it’s weird)

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why did i switch. I must have been drunk last night. Wagon votes are better.
VOTE: Dolly

[NorwegianboyEE]

How about we wait to see what Wake has in store for us today. If his reads suck we lynch him.

[NorwegianboyEE]

@Menalque
So you have nothing to say about the Dolly wagon which is number 1 in votes right now? You seem awfully focused on alternatives.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Looking at the events of today i'm not sure i want Luca lynched anymore. Wake's slot is starting to look much worse in comparison.
This is pretty much where i am atm.

Town. (Do not want lynched):
- Tea
- Gamma Emerald
- Reundo

No strong stance:
- Hectic
- Luca Blight
- Dunnstral
- Almost50

Scummy:
- pisskop
- davesaz
- Dolly Parton
- Wake88
- Menalque

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'd figure you would at least say it's a agreeable or disagreeable wagon seeing as you're focusing on finding scum outside of it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yeah I’m p confident Norway is scum

Based on what? You've seen my scum and town game. I expect an reasonable discourse.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You seem happy to vote basically anyone and I don’t rly think your progressions make sense in your ISO

I'm not "happy to vote anyone". I've made it quite clear who my townreads are. And if i flip flop a little, so what? I'm basing my reads on the events of the game. My reads aren't static. If someone starts looking more town or scum my opinion will reflect that.
I'm happy to vote anyone that aren't my townreads, well aren't we all? Why is that scummy?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don’t rly think your progressions make sense in your ISO

This is one of those: "reasons for scumreading you" that are really easy to make as scum because they don't need to explain why "your progression" doesn't make sense. Just pointing it out without showing any examples like that is somehow a justifiable reason in itself.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I was against the Wake wagon for the longest time until D3, how is that the behaviour of someone that is "equally happy to anyone who seems like a viable lynch"?
Unless you specifically think Wake is my teammate this is BS.

[NorwegianboyEE]

and i think that’s scummy because town normally have a clearer preference in who they want

Yeah, because town has so much information at the start of the game. Having to worry about potentially targeting town. This is just absolute crap and i can't believe you're spouting this like it's somehow logical. It is in fact scum that play the game with a "clear preference of who they want" because they already know who their teammates are, so they are happy to keep pushing a town slot if they see it as a viable mislynch.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Honestly you all flattered me

Can someone catch me up?

I'm not buying that you were "flattered" by me and Gamma mistaking Chennisden for you, yet now you're claiming my "progressions don't make sense". I think you've gotten yourself firmly into the scum mindset by now and is set on playing me up as the mislynch.
VOTE: Menalque

[NorwegianboyEE]

Like I said, I hate Day 1 for obvious reasons. I've got nothing to work with.

And if THAT's your reason to mislynch me, LOL. You're not going to force me to post when I hate Day 1.

I do, however, notice who acts and who doesn't in response to me saying I don't like Day 1.

Wow.
VOTE: Wake88

“I was against the wake wagon for the longest time until D3”

Mmm

Hmmm

I was the first one that unvoted when the wagon was L-1 and went for PMysterious instead. Why would i do that if i wasn't unsure about Wake being the best option?

[NorwegianboyEE]

The fact that you seem very happy with multiple people being lynched is scum indicative because it’s showing you don’t care that much and aren’t really sorting

Spoiler:

Town. (Do not want lynched):
- Tea
- Gamma Emerald
- Reundo

No strong stance:
- Hectic
- Luca Blight
- Dunnstral
- Almost50

Scummy:
- pisskop
- davesaz
- Dolly Parton
- Wake88
- Menalque

[NorwegianboyEE]

"Aren't really sorting"

*Post only a couple scrolls up is a post of me sorting*

Top kek.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Explain what? Everything is self-evident when looking at the events of the game.
Tea posted a meta-case on me. I scumread him for it because i think he is Menalque. Turns out he was Chennisden, a person much less experienced with my playstyle. So i don't scumread him for it anymore. Then i look back on FL's posts and find Tea to be towny based on FL's interactions with him.
Wake meanwhile is a slot that i wanted to give a chance but has been steadily looking worse as the game has progressed.

[NorwegianboyEE]

"Aren't really sorting"

*Post only a couple scrolls up is a post of me sorting*

Top kek.

Where?

Post 1378.
Do we have some severe communications issues or something?

[NorwegianboyEE]

That’s not sorting, that’s just posting reads?

What the hell even is sorting then?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Basically, whenever someone cases me as scum. I judge it on whether i as a third party would believe and agree with what they are saying about my slot. And if it doesn't convince me at all then i scum-read them for it. Needless to say, your case isn't convincing.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ok. And i haven’t been doing that according to you?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Basically, whenever someone cases me as scum. I judge it on whether i as a third party would believe and agree with what they are saying about my slot. And if it doesn't convince me at all then i scum-read them for it. Needless to say, your case isn't convincing.

I mean you asserting this doesn’t make it true

Esp given the fact that scum!you is obliged to say this

What does this even mean? Lmao.
I’m "obliged" to say this? Pretty much everything you claim is scummy about me could just as easily be towny, and that is all the more obvious to me since i know it already. You’re reaching here, relating one thing to another using completely irrelevant evidence and information.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If i was scum i’d most likely just ignore your case or disprove it, but i think you’re actually scum here. That’s why i’m engaging you on these boring points i don’t even think matter much. Because your read on my slot doesn’t feel genuine.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why don’t you come up with something believable instead of this? Then i’ll look into it. I’ve got exam coming up tommorow i gotta practise for. GL until i’m done with it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Decided to mention now bc if we lynch norway, which we should, I almost certainly die tonight.

You won't die tonight if you lynch me lol.

Anyway, like i said. I've got an exam coming up. Just checking to see what's up. I'll respond later.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don't have the time you dweeb.
Anyway, if i really get lynched because of your huge pile of garbage then that is proof that people have a bias for "townie-looking walls of text!!"
Also Tea and Gamma are key to my flip if it happens because of this.

[NorwegianboyEE]

In that order listed.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Dolly

[NorwegianboyEE]

just another irritating lurker keep walking.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I feel like there's been an unreasonable amount of resistance to the A50 wagon this game, considering how easily others have been run up to L-2.

I'm not against it albeit a major part of me wanting to vote there is out of survival tbh. What is the count on A50 right now?

Im voting you out of survival here. There is no visible interest in voting Mena right now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Are you calling me a lurker?

I've been active since I replaced in. I had a busy weekend and not so much time for mafia but calling me a lurker is just nonsense.

I wasn't referring to you.

[NorwegianboyEE]

NorwegianboyEE, what do you think of Menalque’s case against you?

And what do you think about the subsequent votes on your wagon?

Oh yeah, i just finished my exam so i have time to look through it now.
I was under the impression that everyone was voting me, but looking at it most people unvoted. I didn't have time to respond to anything prior to the exam so i took emergency precautions. Should be fine now though. At least until my next one comes up.
UNVOTE:

[NorwegianboyEE]

The scum!indicative thing here is later on. He says in #173 that "Layla is looking more town right now". There's plenty of action in the game between #173 and #601, but there's no explanation for why Layla went from looking more town to being scummy again. In his top 3 SRs after Tea, in fact.

Lol really? So because i said Layla is looking a bit more town, yet put her as a scumlean in my first hurried reads list that makes me scummy? Epic fail argument. -1 credibility points for Menalque.
I like to constantly describe my thoughts, if someone sounds scummy or town i will say it. Does that mean i will 100% townbin or scumbin anyone at a given time? No.
Also, do you really expect my reads to remain static in a 18 player game when i didn't even remember the names of half the playerlist when i made that first reads list?

Then, Layla reps out. Norway has some interaction with hectic, but very little. Hectic comes up 6 times if you ctrl+f his name in Norway's ISO, and one of those posts is #931 suggesting that hectic is very scummy.

But then by the time of his readslist in #1358 hectic is back to "no strong stance" rather than being in the scummy pool.

This entire progression doesn't make sense based on how much hectic posted in the interim (or Layla for that matter) and especially doesn't make sense given Norway's expressed opinions on them.

So you're referring to this post:

Hectic now has -15 points.

Which is an obvious joke post.
And then claiming i'm scummy for putting him as "null" read in 1358 when this has been pretty much my read the whole time?
-5 credibility points for Menalque.

Okay, now let's look at Norways interactions around the FL slot. So we get the sudden FL vote, which is explained as coming from rereading the game in #175. We then have a number of posts on problems with FL and why his posting is scummy. NB: before this, Norway was voting for tea.

But then he COMPLETELY REVERSES HIS OPINION in #315 despite FL having NO INTERACTION with him in-between his initial FL vote and revoting tea with saying that "FL can be town for now". Like, he doesn't explain why his reasons for SRing FL became less valid, and also FL *unvotes his top scumspect immediately after Norway revotes tea*.

Yeah, i unvoted because nobody really cared to join my vote. And my scumcase wasn't that strong. Therefore i unvoted for the sake of joining an actual wagon.
Another twisting of events to suit your scum!me narrative.
-3 credibility points for Menalque.

Firstly, the fact that norway feels the need to provide an explanation specifically and uniquely for FL in his #601 readslist. And secondly his just strange behaviour around FL after the chemist guilty, where goes from asking for more discussion to aggressively insisting the lynch happen as fast as possible. It's an odd tonal shift.

Yeah, because we went from "Chemist might have an guilty" to: "Chemist totally exposed FL as obvious mafia" so therefore there was no need for anymore discussion in my opinion. Maybe you're different. But i don't really care much for keeping exposed mafia alive any more than necessary. Especially when he kept spouting bullshit and distracting everyone.
Why is this scum indicative again?
-1 credibility points for Menalque.
#
The things you're writing about the tea wagon doesn't need any response, you're just wrong. I am proud of my handling of that slot, and i don't see how it makes me scum. No matter how much caps lock you use it isn't going to prove it otherwise.
-20 credibility points for Menalque.

When you add that to him being happy to vote both wake, dolly, and me coming into today, he's way too vote happy.

Unless you've got specific proof that i'm distracting from a wagon on one of my scum partners (in which case, you need to name who) this isn't scum indicative. Stop pretending it is.

And this pk shading based on him lynching wrong in a past game followed by a vote for him shortly after is also terrible, esp the "I'd sooner trust FL's words in his villainous breakdown rant than your reads" which is so hyperbolic and unnecessary:

Dude, my literal persona is hyperbolic and unnecessary. Town or scum. Don't believe me? Read page 29 of my towngame here: viewtopic.php?f=83&t=81377&start=700

I think all of the most damning evidence for norway!scum is listed above in the post.

NB: Also, wanted to mention: if norway flips red I think that Dunn is lock!scum p much. I haven't like deeply investigated this, but the impression I get from their interactions is horrible. Decided to mention now bc if we lynch norway, which we should, I almost certainly die tonight.

There is no damning evidence. Where? You got a guilty or something? Why are you unable to view my position from a town perspective?
I don't see why you connect me with Dunn, but if you've got anything specific examples you want to talk about go ahead.
And the reason i pointed out your last paragraph yesterday is because if you're town, i thought it would be really funny for you to have such a hubris that you actually believe "scum is going to nightkill me tommorow because of this!" when in reality i'd flip town and the mafia would keep you alive because you'd look scummy as fuck rallying the lynch against a town slot.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Pisskop is just a meme.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think faking hubris is the #1 thing he does as scum

You've only seen my scumgame once. Why do you act like you've got me all figured out? Especially that meta post earlier. It's a bit tryhardy.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Post 1446 is pretty good and reinforces my townread of Tea.

[NorwegianboyEE]

when you reveal who you are

he magically forgets all of those and his previous SR

Yes because my whole reason for scumreading him was because i thought he was you. A person who'se scum and townplay i'm a bit more familiar with. But Chennisden is an entirely different person with entirely different tells.

[NorwegianboyEE]

before I just didn't really think about dolly because I was scumhunting elsewhere

Why oh why is Menalque ignoring the Dolly wagon so hard?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Menu's case on Norwee is actually pretty convincing.

VOTE: Norwee

I don't have a protect.

Hectic's random wagon join here is kinda awful.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Gonna need a vote count before i place a vote again. Need a refresher.

[NorwegianboyEE]

RC flashbacks Mena?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Lol again with the misunderstanding.
I’m talking a scenario where TvT is on throats of each other and scum is outside.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why do you care so much about Tea. I’m TR him now. Why would that be scummy unless i hard FOV him as a scum theatre only to TR him again based on some inexplicably complicated meta shit.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yout entire schtick is "why he stop scumread???!!!??"
It’s boring.

[NorwegianboyEE]

like I'm gonna break down that "defence" but look how superficial it is

how is that a "good defence"?

What is a good defense in your opinion?
I don't think anything i'd say would convince you because of how hard you're tunneling right now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

All you have for teammate association is maybe Dunnstral, and nothing else.
You didn't even show any examples of why Dunnstral is my theoretical scum teammate.
All your case is based on maybe's and progression what if's. I don't even need to make a good defense against that, because your case is bad to begin with.

[NorwegianboyEE]

@Luca
If i’m town, what does that make Menalque?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Not like i want to play a game with Mena up my ass every step of the way.

[NorwegianboyEE]

if I'm still alive tomorrow, then I'll case dunn fully, but there's no incentive for me to split focus onto him when I've already caught you

And what's your contingency plan if i flip town? Nothing?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Can i just die instead of replying to all that shit Menalque is spewing out from his ass?
Thanks.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Just because it'll be satisfying for me to watch him lose the game afterwards.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'd like a reads list from you

like am i scum for not playing?
did you like melans efforting?
how about lucas wagon? did it do bad things?
do you think 50 is lurking sitewide so maybe trying to use activity during the busiest season of the year is garbo strats?
how does your play here differ from nomination where you were scum?

Since you asked so nicely.
It's basically identical btw.

Spoiler:

Town. (Do not want lynched):
- Tea
- Gamma Emerald
- Reundo

No strong stance:
- Hectic
- Luca Blight
- Dunnstral
- Almost50

Scummy:
- pisskop
- davesaz
- Dolly Parton
- Wake88
- Menalque

You're most likely town as usual.
I hate Melan's efforting.
Luca's wagon was a counterwagon and it spurred discussion. It was good, though i'm not sure whether he's scum anymore. He's one of the few actually active and solvey people here so i wanna give him props for that.
A50 idk, he's easy to scumread as town so i'm having him more as a null read for now. Lurking, not sure. I think he just does that. Leaves and then casually comes back and posts like 20 posts before leaving again.
Basically i've catched shit from multiple people for my scum play in nomination mafia? I don't get it. If my town and scum game is that similar then i'd say it's a pretty good thing because it makes me easier to hide as a scum player. But, no. I'm town here. The fact that i actually post reads relatively often is something i didn't do in nomination mafia.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ops i forgot to move your slot. Fixed:

Town. (Do not want lynched):
- Tea
- Gamma Emerald
- Reundo

No strong stance:
- Hectic
- Luca Blight
- Dunnstral
- Almost50
- pisskop

Scummy:
- davesaz
- Dolly Parton
- Wake88
- Menalque

[NorwegianboyEE]

If i'd know it wouldn't make Menalque lose his shit for my "vote hopping" i'd probably vote Davesaz now because he's been suspiciously lurking for a long time.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Forgot to add an update on Hectic for his recent post too.
Screw it, i'll just make a new one.

Townblock

- Tea
- Gamma Emerald
- Reundo

Light townlean

- Luca Blight

Null

- Dunnstral
- Almost50
- pisskop

Scumlean

- Wake88
- Menalque
- Hectic
- Dolly Parton
- davesaz

[NorwegianboyEE]

I asked that question to you. You didn't even respond. So naturally i gave up that idea.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You're so cocky and delusional lmao.
I've been trying to hunt scum but it's impossible when you insist on trashtalking everything i say, it's impossible for me to do anything but try to convince you i'm town because otherwise i'll just be wasting my breath on trying to hunt outside of this 1v1 you've forced me into.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Well there are clearly some people that TR me, so why do you blame me for your own failings and bad ability to scum hunt?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm getting 95% sure that scum is outside both of us and you're just a tunneling town. Which makes this really annoying because i've done everything i can to make you see the light, but nothing works. And it's very frustrating. But that's just how it is sometimes. If town actually believes you then hopefully my flip will make you never deathtunnel me ever again.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You've kept up your scumread despite backlash from other townies, proving that you're most likely town. Because scum cares more about looking good rather than making a flip happen no matter what.

[NorwegianboyEE]

In my defense post you didn't care for.

[NorwegianboyEE]

So where is the scum? It’s dolly/Dave/wake?

Why have you shifted so abruptly on me in like 1 page?

Could very well be those three.

That's just how i am bro.

[NorwegianboyEE]

What specifically about my posts between 1592 and 1605 made me go from scumleans to you being 95% sure this is TvT?

High grade reflection on the whole argument we've had.
I don't want to lose this you know. If town ends up lynching me i don't want them to scumread you if i believe you're town. Even if i said that earlier. I do get a bit pissy sometimes when i feel like i'm being unjustly attacked and i regret saying that. Sorry.

[NorwegianboyEE]

There's no sign of me losing. Losing is having 7 people willing to vote me, so far you've got 3.
Regarding your response to my response post. I'm just not attentive enough to respond to every single point you've got, because i feel like you'll just rephrase them and send them my way again. I stand by everything i've said in my initial defense post so far. I'm not giving you any more response.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I want you to break down what you were thinking and what prompted it throughout the process of that shift in mindset

I already explained this to you. What do you want? A 6 page essay? I've already written an exam today. Enough is enough.

You've kept up your scumread despite backlash from other townies, proving that you're most likely town. Because scum cares more about looking good rather than making a flip happen no matter what.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Like he’s not only scummy on his own merits, but he’s also scummy to anyone reading the gamestate

Ok.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Dolly

[NorwegianboyEE]

Woah. Time to claim?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Dunnstrall is suspiciously absent from all this. Especially for being my teammate according to Mena.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Even if i flip green today i’d think he could be suspicious. Don’t let him off the hook.

[NorwegianboyEE]

This is why he's scum

Does town actually ever post like that? Does Norwegian actually post like that?

Maybe today you’ll find out.

[NorwegianboyEE]

N1 Gamma
N2 Tea

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m Jailkeeper. Tried crumbing it earlier.
Post 1406, 1501 and 1503.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Bit hurried. It was the other way around.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I wanted to relay the information covertly in case i got lynched while i was busy IRL. But it’s looking like i’ll get lynched anyway so the least i can do is explain what actions i’ve taken.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Never played as Jailkeeper before. I thought the optimal play would be to either protect townies or try targeting mafia to block their kill. I thought Chemist would be protected by a regular protective role and that the mafia would assume the same so i went for someone else i had a strong TR on. That probably was a mistake, but it did confirm that Tea didn’t make the shot so he has less scum equity. I didn’t crumb D1 because that would be needlessly risky, i wouldn’t want any mafia to figure me out early.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I didn’t claim to look innocent. I claimed because that is the truth.

[NorwegianboyEE]

No i didn’t. Lynch me i don’t care.
VOTE: Norwegianboy

[NorwegianboyEE]

If Chemist had been protected N2 he would have had a guilty on Reundo

But if i JK him he would have received "your action was blocked" right?

[NorwegianboyEE]

If Chemist had been protected N2 he would have had a guilty on Reundo

But if i JK him he would have received "your action was blocked" right?

No - his action would have just failed.

I guess that means, technically it would have been a good idea to JK him, because Chemist would think his action failed because Reundo was scum, which was technically wrong. But also at the same time right.

[NorwegianboyEE]

sorry Norway

I was really stressed when you attacked me due to exams being 1 days away. I think that might have impacted my reaction a bit. Even though i still think you're mostly to blame for my mislynch (obviously) i still think i could have handled it better. Either way, i'm not that mad anymore because i've had some time to calm down. Though i am still a bit salty in my earlier posts in the dead thread.

[NorwegianboyEE]

A lot of people kept thinking i was scummy because they claimed i was playing similarly to my scumplay in nomination mafia for some reason. Chennis, PM and Mena all thought this i think.

[NorwegianboyEE]

A lot of people kept thinking i was scummy because they claimed i was playing similarly to my scumplay in nomination mafia for some reason. Chennis, PM and Mena all thought this i think.

I don't think your play was similar.

Yeah, that's exactly why it confused me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Jailkeeper refraining from targeting Chemist on that night is acceptable. However a doctor targeting someone else other than the confirmed town is just weird. I mean i'm honored you thought i was so town you'd target me, but there was just no chance scum would want to shoot me there.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think the main reason why i TR you is because you sounded so reasonable, and you made many chunky posts. And you know dis boi likes to TR big chunky posts.