Large Normal 229 | Manatee's Musical Mafia | Game Over

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why did i join a 20+ game. Omg. Time to fight against the wagon dynamics of dogpiling on an random player.
Vigs better shoot tonight.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why did i join a 20+ game. Omg. Time to fight against the wagon dynamics of dogpiling on an random player.
Vigs better shoot tonight.

I finished reading Bananas just yesterday. You are good scum. Dangerous if red.

Good thing i'm green☆

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Bell
I hear them ringing. I hear the bells ringing. Is it announcing a funeral?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Bell has been eliminated. He was a

Mafia Goon

Spoiler:

[NorwegianboyEE]

I got a light TR on SJReaver for his post pointing out he read my scumgame and noted he believes i'm skilled at playing as scum. It doesn't seem like something scum!him would just casually put out there if it wasn't a real worry for him.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I got a light TR on SJReaver for his post pointing out he read my scumgame and noted he believes i'm skilled at playing as scum. It doesn't seem like something scum!him would just casually put out there if it wasn't a real worry for him.

I did notice a serious lack of engagement from you at points. You strike me as someone who likes a mental challenge and when you're allowed to coast as scum, you mentally check out. When the pinch is on, you suddenly become more active.

That you've made an appearance and are reading people this early suggests the basic set up of the game (find the bad guys) is helping to motivate you.

As days pass, I hope you remain that way.

Activity tell eh.
Well i won’t disagree with you. I tend to lose interest sometimes if the game loses energy and i’m scum. (Because then i see no point in re-energizing it)

[NorwegianboyEE]

From my long experience of playing with Norweegian (1 game!), he screams town when he's town.

I’M TOWN!

[NorwegianboyEE]

In general, unless you’re really, really, really sure you know that player is scum you don’t shoot n1.

We need early vig shoots because right now we’re fighting the wagon dynamics almost more than scum itself. I played in a large 50 game before and we needed 26 votes to get a lynch in D1. Do you have any idea how much of a pain in the ass it is to convince 26 people to lynch a player?
We need to lower the player pool ASAP, and hopefully by eliminating scum along the way.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Are we really reading into the reasons for which people read other games when they were bored? That looks like a prototype of NAI thing to me.

This reads like busywork to me. Fake attempt at looking like town doing things useful for town. Bell is my first scumread so far.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It’s announcing.
Because scum say it is.
While town say it’s

"Scum syntax" arguments are heresy.

VOTE: Bell


From my long experience of playing with Norweegian (1 game!), he screams town when he's town. My ears are open for the scream.

You sure about this? Was scumread by everyone as town when replaced into a slot that was widely townread

Because LL was an ass that thinks lolhammering automatically confirms someone as scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

That's disappointing.

Just ignore Quick.

[NorwegianboyEE]

When you were asking why SJR would look at a previous game when receiving his role pm.
Also i’m 100% paranoid of you after the way you fooled me earlier.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why are we wagoning MM?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m not really seeing why MM is scummy.
And they seem a bit too easy to wagon this early in the game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

In case you didn’t notice. I’m voting Bell.

[NorwegianboyEE]

*Yawn*

[NorwegianboyEE]

A bit edgy no? Many of the recent votes on this wagon look bad, but you’re quick to anger when 2 people point out they don’t like it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Do you have anything else on Bell besides that he's lamisting? Convince me i'm wrong

Not really. I wasn’t even arguing over why Bell is better than MM. I just don’t understand why this wagon is a thing yet. What scummy things did he do?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Not angry, just trying to create interactions. Which you should know with your level of experience

Your tone inflicted more than just "looking for interactions". Otherwise i would have responded differently.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Got it. Do you think me explaining the wagon at this point is better for town at this moment? As they say with humor, explaining the joke will ruin its impact.

What...?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don’t really agree with what you’re saying. Trying to keep up an unexplained wagon is just stupid.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Lol ok.
Whatever.

Leave me out of your little social club.

[NorwegianboyEE]

This argument between you two feels forced af

Concluding?

[NorwegianboyEE]

It's kind of like telling you why explaining a joke no longer makes it funny, if you don't get it you just don't get it

Ahaha, yes. Indeed.

Explaining why you find someone scummy is so overrated. Let’s just all wagon one player, and only when the player is eliminated shall i reveal how i found him out as scum. Very good strategy, definiteky the best way to find TR’s. I’m sure a lot of town would love to join this wagon UNTIL, i reveal my secrets. When i do that they will all stop wagoning the person in question and it’s all ruined!

[NorwegianboyEE]

But superbowl does that mean you're just hopping on a wagon to add pressure and get the game moving, even if you don't have a strong SR because you know wagons produce interactions?"

^ And now you've removed all pressure that my vote holds

I understand what you were going for, but i’m still kinda annoyed.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I like jokes. Jokes are very funny.

you know what I like? lynching LQ on d1.

Ah, i see. Another connoisseur.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Then what did you mean? Because if you say an argument is "forced" you to elaborate in what sense it was "forced.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Idk it kinda feels like an cop-out from you Stan. You say the back and forth between me and Superbowl was forced like you’re suggesting it was a fake argument between scum. And when asked to elaborate you just said you wanted to see if "other people saw what you did."
It’s kinda icky.
VOTE: Stan1ey

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also that: "it was just an observation" post.

[NorwegianboyEE]

But the fact you're going along with him on this SVS thing is interesting

Oh look. He’s doing it again.
Ominous alien creature is good at saying ominous things.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If it was an pointless discussion and you really read it as such. Then i suggest using an different vocabulary.

[NorwegianboyEE]

But you referred to both of us, not just Super.

[NorwegianboyEE]

here's my conclusion. Anime avatars are horrible.

Ur horrible.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Anime pfps are rising in strength. Soon we will take over the universe

Hear hear brother.

The time for revolution is neigh. Throw off the chains of the bourgeoisie anti-anime oppressors.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Nigh lol.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Maybe drunk, not high.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Stanley looks much better than in another game I played with him.

How so?

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: NorwegianboyEE

I love naked votes.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Is this going to be one of those games.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Nero just spill why you're voting me, i'm not up for your games. Get it over with.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Because i wanna know why you're voting me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

He can't help it. When you're a as hardcore of a anime-profile-picture hating man as Nero Cain you see scum everywhere.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Scum Nero is really apathetic from what i know of him.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I naked voted him and he responded within 2 mins. He then asked what's the reason for a naked voted so yes I think he's a little freaked out over getting voted.

So i was online and saw you voting me and asked why.
That's something i'd do regardless of my alignment, regardless of time and place, any time of the year.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm liking NPOM's content so far. Seems similar to their townplay i'm familiar with.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Those were all jokes and responses, come on guy.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Was pretty likely a joke and even if there is truth to it he could easily play it off a joke but he's kinda playing the victim card here.

He can't help it. When you're a as hardcore of a anime-profile-picture hating man as Nero Cain you see scum everywhere.

I'm often the victim of town tunneling me. It's an objective truth.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Especialy town players who think they're hardcore and "caught me" when i make a joke.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Anyway let's stop talking about that. It will just waste time.
I'm reconsidering Stan based on NPOM's statement on them so i'll go back here for now. VOTE: Bell

[NorwegianboyEE]

You're making me want to belittle you more.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Poor little Nero Cain
Thought he catched a scum today

But lo' behold
He was a troll

No redflips for scum huntin cain today.

[NorwegianboyEE]

norway, if you are town and you seem to think I'm town, do you feel like agrivating and ad hom attacking me is the best way to go about this?

I don't feel like playing like town this game. In fact i don't really care if i die early. It's a 20+ game.
Watching your reactions is much more amusing to me atm.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yes, you caught me. Damn you're good at this.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Not a collaborative approach at all.

What am i supposed to collaborate with? Your vote on me?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Town don't overreact to one or two votes on them. You're not even the leading wagon by a long shot.

Scum wouldn't overreact to it either. Your logic is faulty.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I can show you numerous examples of town!me reacting to a vote on me i find unfairly or a scumread of me that is unjustified. Even if it's just one.
As scum i usually completely ignore.
I have done the complete opposite of what scum!me would do in this situation.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It's a fact that scum tends to be more cold and calculating, not always overly emotional.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Norway scooted through as scum in our last game and I'm getting the impression he's annoyed scum at getting early scum read.

Not town annoyed at getting early scumread? Why?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I mean, this is all an escalation based on my belief that Nero was scumreading me based on something he didn’t say. Which i deduced from him casually naked voting me after we’d previously had been on the same wagon. So after now finding out it was based on nothing and getting scumread because i asked. Yes i’m kinda annoyed at you Nero Cain.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I guess the """town""" reaction would have been to smoke a big fat blunt and reply to Nero Cain in 6 days, 6 minutes and 6 seconds.

[NorwegianboyEE]

norway, you understand that ppl are going to scum read you for getting defensive, right?

It doesn’t matter. I can’t change the way i play. I’m always concious and sensitive to people’s reads on me. This isn’t a scum thing either. I always am like that.

[NorwegianboyEE]

That's rediculous. Only the most stupid of mafia players "can't change the way they play."

Everyone has a personality quirk they can’t get rid off easily.
If we could all completely change the way we play perfectly then mafia as a game wouldn’t be able to exist.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Can we focus on other people now. There are 21.

[NorwegianboyEE]

That's rediculous. Only the most stupid of mafia players "can't change the way they play."

Everyone has a personality quirk they can’t get rid off easily.
If we could all completely change the way we play perfectly then mafia as a game wouldn’t be able to exist.

So you're implying you aren't trying to play this game differently than your last game?

I barely even remember how i played in that game ur talking about.

[NorwegianboyEE]

who should we focus on, iyo?

Whoever. I need to read more content that isn’t endless questions aimed at me to get a better feel for the game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

So i’ll be back at a later time to see.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Norway is scum. I'm not moving my vote for the rest of the day.

So you’ll consider moving it tommorow? Then there’s still hope.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm currently town on both Nero and Norway, since their play reminds me of their towngames. NPOM is prob town too, but shouldn't be listened to

Pretty much this.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It doesn't make sense from any!stanley which is why we all realize he can't hold that position, so he backed off it. Because why would SvT fake an argument and why would SvS posture on pg 5 in a large and draw the shitstorm of attention we've gotten

Sure i don’t mind going back to this.
VOTE: Stan1ey

[NorwegianboyEE]

I have no feelings on Stan whatsoever.
I’m in watch mode on Norwe, they seem kinda burdened by a scum role pm, but maybe it’s just that the game is big

Oh FFS. I’m never "burdened" by a scum role pm. I fucking love playing as scum. What pisses me off is getting scumread for shit reasons. Don’t plop it up as AI.

[NorwegianboyEE]

MM’s posts this page is solidifying my TR of him.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Additionally, your case that Norway is scummy because he wants to know why you're voting him is bad. Everyone would want to know why you cast a vote for them if you just did so out of the blue with no explanation whatsoever. It feels like you set up a trap for him: you know Norway is talkative and expressive and posts a lot. Are you scum taking advantage of that who set up Norway with a naked vote to inquire why you voted him, and then you smeared his playstyle calling him hyper defensive when he simply wanted you to explain why you voted for him? You tried to make him look bad for wanting to understand and wanting you to clarify your vote. Why is it bad that Norway wants you to give information on your vote?

Echoing my thoughts on this.
Even if i agree with your deconstruction of Nero’s "scum hunting attempt" here. I’m not entirely sure i’d find it AI of Nero. His playstyle is rough and i think he tends to latch on to every little thing as both town and sometimes scum. Therefore i agree it’s faulty logic but not nexesarilly a planned "trap" from scum!him.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Superbowl could just be a freak town with differing logic than the rest of us tho MM.

[NorwegianboyEE]

What do you think of him stating that he'd be ok wagoning you after chainsaw defending you?

Worrying.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I was never scum reading you for asking why I was voting you so you two are either intentionally lying and trying to discredit me or ya'll are grossly misinformed.

Ok i’m sorry. But it’s REALLY hard for me to see someone vote ne and not read that as: "i scumread you and want you out of the game"
If you don’t scumread me then unvote.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You only put the last part in the youtube tag MM.

So (Youtube) l_GBfiKjJZ8(Youtube) would be correct.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm changing your name to Marshal Zhukov after watching that video.

[NorwegianboyEE]

How did you mess up your post on my mobile browser so badly.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh right, my possible scum pool is fuzzy alien, penis dude, MM, and David Bowie.

Can you use regular names or something recognizable from their name? I can’t keep up with a lot of personalized pet nicknames in a 20+ game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You can call me Norwee though. Since i’ve been the center of attention just now it shouldn’t be an issue.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Glitch is prob scum though. Firstly, everything he said about my vote on Norway is absolute bullshit. There's a decent amount of scum motivation to chainsaw defend and buddy up to Norway but the kicker for me is that he said he's consider lynching Norway today. This coming from a guy that supposedly thinks I'm scum makes no sense at all.

Between the two, i'd probably scumread NPOM before Nero. So i agree Glitch's read on you seems a bit exaggerated.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Between the two, i'd probably scumread NPOM before Nero.

Why would you scumread me at all? Is this just delayed OMGUS?

No, not at all.
I guess a better way of saying it would be i think your town, while NPOM is lesser town/nullish

[NorwegianboyEE]

When was the first time?

[NorwegianboyEE]

And i never said u were scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh, NPOM.
Well he's just kinda playing bad right now by tunneling 100% on me instead of solving the game properly. And therefore doesn't deserve to be fully TR anymore.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Stan has disappeared.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If you couldn't tell i've been TR'ing you until now then i'm worried for you Nero.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You were town reading the nopowah! and I guess you are scum reading him now after he voted you.

I thought you were the one screaming about how everyone misunderstood your vote on me as scumreading me? I said i have NPOM as light TR/Null. That's not scumreading, that's acknowledging that he's most likely town but i could be wrong.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I can't stop talking down to you, your questions are too annoying and you keep probing irrelevant shit.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Glitch and 72 maybe. But i wanna see more from them before i make any strong judgements.

[NorwegianboyEE]

What was the point of this other than to continue to retaliate against me?

That was the point.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don’t like your playstyle.

[NorwegianboyEE]

No. At your reaction to me questioning you. Acting like some fucking god that doesn’t need to explain themselves, with a tremendous ego. And calling me asking you scummy while ignoring my question.

[NorwegianboyEE]

@marshall, you either misunderstood or strawmanned my opinion on you. I was saying that you’re goofy as both alignments. Also you’ve been in enough games here to adjust to the meta here, so that excuse doesn’t work at all.

What does that even mean? What about them is "goofy"?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Norwe, are you maf.

Sometimes i can't tell myself.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Can hold the opinion that they think my vote/reasoning was bad while simultaneously scum reading the guy?

It’s acknowledging 2 worlds. 1 where i’m scum and town!Neros push was kinda awkward.
1 world where scum!Nero is setting up some kind of mega trap.
Is it natural thought process? Heck i’m not even sure myself.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Norway doesn't mind any wagon that isn't his.

Dumbest comment yet.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Hmm. Glitch, you’re the master of IIOA here. Is MM scum using it to seem townie?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don't like Norway's motivation this game. He was town in the last game I played with him and his morale was up the whole game. I don't like the whole idea of lowering the player pool being top priority right now even at the cost of town deaths. Seems haphazard and wreckless which isn't the Norway I played with last time.

Are some of you seriously still harping on the argument that: "Suggesting us to vig players is so scummy!!!!" stuff?

[NorwegianboyEE]

If you think im scum AND don't think we are scum together then you have to think he's town

I understand the point you're trying to make but the only way that this would be true is if I knew for a fact that your alignment was scum. I am speculating and making a case that you are scum because in my mind, you are the highest likelihood to be scum right now. But I don't know for a fact that you are, and I am well aware that I could be wrong and I could get you lynched and you could flip town. Therefore, my read on Norway is not going to be influenced by my read on you because my read on you could very well be wrong.

My quote of the wiki was because you're don't like that I won't call you two a scum team, but I just won't. Most likely, one of you is scum and one of you is town, but I have a hard time figuring out which one. I lean your way but understand that I may be wrong, and both of you being in my scum reads because of your own individual actions does not make me want to lynch first, evaluate later. If I wanted a wreckless lynch I would have just joined the MM wagon. That wagon was freaking easy to jump on.

If I were scum why would I be motivated to push you so hard when I'm literally the only one SRing you?

Disgusting post.
VOTE: Glitch

[NorwegianboyEE]

Nero isn't scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ok. It’s scummy.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Bell jump on wagon when heard it was is"nt your let him clami ? other wise it counts as a quick hammer

tell me if im wrong bus is"nt most survivor expert at playing

I can't comprehend any of what you just said.

[NorwegianboyEE]

tell me if im wrong bus is"nt most survivor expert at playing

This one I get. I’m not sure how you get the survivor tag. I thought it had to do with surviving to the end as a 3rd party. Which is difficult yes.

Survivor is a tag you get once you've made 10 000+ posts.
Jack of all trades 5000+
Mafia scum 1000+
Etc etc

[NorwegianboyEE]

What do you think of Virgo entrance Norwe?

I didn't like that they have the same stance as Glitch where apparently they don't want vigs to use their shots tonight. Because: "they might hit town!" Yeah no shit sherlock. That's ignoring the fact that vigs should always aim for players that are already in the PoE and are likely players that would be suspected/lynched anyway. Seeing their flip instantly would give a lot of info to town to assess the gamestate and see whether town is on the right track or if they need to reassess.
Their post 622 is mostly just casual discrediting of what i say, and seems like they're trying to justify their vote on me and put up a pretense of town reading up on the game rather than actually solve. Don't really like their slot based on that.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’d like everyone to read the argument between Glitch/Nero and see if you notice anything. If not i’ll point it out myself.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why is jumping around bad anyway.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Lapsa I want to see if this wagon will make Lapsa contribute more.

I don’t think it will. And Lapsa looks like low-hanging fruit anyway. A flip on them would give us nothing.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Not familiar with Superbowl at all, but they really don’t look like scum to me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Animated avatars are scummier.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Glad to know Hiraki has it all figured out.

Are you being sarcastic?
Or serious?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m seeing Hiraki differently but i’m not sure if it’s just because i’m not the same allignmemt as in anime Upick or because they are playing differently.
I’ll judt assume it’s the former for now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

They seem town is what i’m saying.
I really shouldn’t have drunk so much rum this evening.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ey A50. You bring up good memories of large 228.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Hiraki is stubborn.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Where are you seeing informed perspective from their opening?

[NorwegianboyEE]

His binary language.

Not scum indicative for Hiraki. And why would that show an informed perspective?

[NorwegianboyEE]

He makes short comments and statements with his quote, but the read development feels natural. And it’s a coherent progression that’s hard to fake for scum.
Granted it’s just one post, but nothing that pinged me negatively so far.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Okay. I lied about staying on Norway. We need a new wagon.

Unvote

So when you say "lie", are you suggesting that you didn’t actually plan to vote me all day, or that you didn’t actually scumread me and did it for reaction test, or that you initially scumread me but changed your mind over time.
Do you not SR me or did you want to push someone else?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Look Marsh, your vote on nero is like, 95% likely to be town. vote elsewhere.
I've literally never seen scum act like nero is rn.
He's super obv town. And you can quote me and make fun of me forever if I'm wrong.

^

[NorwegianboyEE]

We can paranoia scumread Nero if he’s alive after like 3-4 days. But i’m not for a D1 lynch on him.
Nero votes are wasted votes because i’ll never support it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Don’t go to the dark side MM. I know it’s tempting. But the side of good is here, begging you to cast aside your sins and prove your towniness.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Liking the Glitch wagon because most of the people there i TR/feel good about.

[NorwegianboyEE]

are u gonna let him claim?

I also want a claim before any hammer were to happen.
Hammering before that is a scumclaim.
UNVOTE:

[NorwegianboyEE]

I only paid attention to the "intent to hammer" part, i have no idea what the actual vote count is.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also, I'm not fond of suddenly jumping off a wagon you've pushed when it's close to elimination. Seems like trying to avoid being in the vote count for it.

Shaddup.
I'll put my vote back when Glitch chimes in if i don't like what he's got to say.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Everyone just ignores my post on scum!72. Feels bad.

I thought that it was over.....
I thought you'd understand.....

That Superbowl;s wagon.....
Is the one to get on, band.....

Mafia is red,
Townies are blue,
This is a bad wagon,
I'm voting for you.

VOTE: 72offsuit

My mother said
That I never should
Never play with the naughty rude girls in the wood
Their giggling talk I could never understand
And that's why I fell in love with my right hand

I love you dude.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You've really gotta put the tryhards back in their place on this one.

[NorwegianboyEE]

L-2 is good. Shouldn't be any quickhammers then.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It's a 21 player game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

One of the reasons I was excited to leave newbies for normals is that I wanted vigilante. All the scum-hunting and no bothering with convincing others you're right. It's the perfect role!

I hate vigilantes. 9/10 times they suck.
And i’m including myself in the "suck" category. Never give me a gun.

[NorwegianboyEE]

What does that mean?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh, anime upick. Cool game, Titus pwned me with VCA though.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m hungry. That seems like a sufficient reason to unvote the leading wagon.
UNVOTE:

[NorwegianboyEE]

Stan what’s your read on me?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Stan what’s your read on me?

I've only seen this said as scum, if it's from town. Why do you ask this as you probably would rather see their read on someone else to give more information.

I’m asking because Stan1ey strongly townread me in my latest game with him, so i find it strange he’s reading me so differently here. Therefore i’m trying to understand it.
Real nice shade btw, "i’ve only said scum say this" lol.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Seen*
Anyway, is that a weird thing to say now that you know the context JV?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’ve seen town ask specific people how they’re read multiple times so i’m not sure where you got the idea only scum would ask that either.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Stan what’s your read on me?

I've only seen this said as scum, if it's from town. Why do you ask this as you probably would rather see their read on someone else to give more information.

I’m asking because Stan1ey strongly townread me in my latest game with him, so i find it strange he’s reading me so differently here. Therefore i’m trying to understand it.
Real nice shade btw, "i’ve only said scum say this" lol.

It wasn't shade at all but you're free to think that. The wording didn't sound anything like what you just explained but that may be my tired eyes

Yeah, why would i reveal my actual intentions behind asking that question? That would make it possible for a theoretical scum!stanley to say what he thinks i want to hear.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ok, you’re confusing me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Anyway, i wanna hear from Stan1ey, not you.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Hmm, i was a tracker in that game. Very focused at looking town.
I guess if you were to compare the two, i care less here. So i don’t think it’s an fabricated read from you.

[NorwegianboyEE]

what about nero today, superbowl tomorrow?

This response to Nero gives me the opposite of warm and fuzzy feelings.

[NorwegianboyEE]

whats a chad?

A Chad is like 2x Nero Cain’s combined into one.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I was hoping that's what you meant.

I think stan is town ngl

Why does that make you think he’s town?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Idk if i'm comfortable turning around just based on a extremely vague: "I'll be useful by D4!" claim.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I genuinely believe Nero is scum because of the arguments I've presented so far, but I also understand that I may be SR'ing him so hard cause I'm just pissed that he is tunneling me so hard.

I don't get this. You're pissed at him "tunneling you" but you believe he is scum at the same time? That doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
VOTE: Glitch

[NorwegianboyEE]

If you truly believed Nero was scum then you wouldn't feel emotionally upset at him scumreading you.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Glitch in his latest post sounds like scum that's trying hard to hedge his bets. And there's a good amount of AtE thrown in there too.
I don't trust his claim.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don't trust it either but there are probably better lynches.

Better lynches than scum?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Lapsa is just useless, i'd rather lynch slots i get feelings of scum motivaton from.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Who besides Glitch are you scum reading?

Are you asking me?
Anyway, my current main scumreads are Glitch and stan1ey
Also lightly scumreading 72offsuit and JacksonVirgo. But those are weaker reads and mostly gut.

[NorwegianboyEE]

norway, what was it you saw in Glitch earlier?

It was mostly just seeing what i already said was scummy about Glitch when he made that claim.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Nero do you agree that Glitch should claim their full role?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think the way Nero has been pushed so far is looking real awkward. Who's the perpetrators again? Mostly MM and Glitch right?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I genuinely believe Nero is scum because of the arguments I've presented so far, but I also understand that I may be SR'ing him so hard cause I'm just pissed that he is tunneling me so hard.

I don't get this. You're pissed at him "tunneling you" but you believe he is scum at the same time? That doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
VOTE: Glitch

Ehhh, scum focusing the pressure on a specific townie is a thing. I get what you're saying, but I think it's wrong.

That’s not the main issue here Though. Let’s say Nero is scum that’s pushing town!Glitch as Glitch pretends is the case, why would town!Glitch feel so much pressure and frustration at being scumread by who he believes is scum? Shouldn’t that be completely expected because scum do what they do? Why wouldn’t Glitch describe why Nero’s case on him is bad and scummy instead of talking about how "frustrating" it is for them to be scumread by scum?

[NorwegianboyEE]

norway, do you feel like you've been pushed a fair ammount today?

Not that much actually.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why was that even a question?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh i have been pushed alright, but by my standards this isn’t much. I’ve spent games where i’m shouted at for 3 days straight and stuff.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Well, Glitch has been pushing us for like six days so...

Oh i was talking ingame days. Not IRL days.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Would be ok with an Stan wagon, but most votes are still on Glitch and i’d like to keep up the pressure until Glitch responds/full claims.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also of note, Glitch could have crumbed or hinted at the fact that his role wouldn’t activate until D4 to point out if precisely something like this were to happen, but they didn’t and that’s why i believe they are either faking PR or it’s a scum role.

[NorwegianboyEE]

That’s definitely somwthing town should do if they have such an unique modifier.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Hm, maybe 72 isn’t scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why don’t you see that Glitch has been scummy tho.

[NorwegianboyEE]

nero has been misrepping people so much this game its like he is viewing a completely different game entirely, anyone who town reads him really should start explaining why. he is the most scummy person in this game by far

No...? I’ve already stated this, but Nero is not playing to his scum meta at all. And i don’t think he’s decided to suddenly better his scumplay and power through in this game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Come on aboard, I promise you you won't hurt the horse...
We treat him well, we feed him well...
There's lots of room for you on the bandwagon...
The road may be rough, the weather may forget us..

Sorry, but poetry won’t convince me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why don’t you see that Glitch has been scummy tho.

whats he done thats scummy? scummiest thing in his iso for me rn is his soft claim at L-2

I’ve been talking about why Glitch has been scummy for a while now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Come on aboard, I promise you you won't hurt the horse...
We treat him well, we feed him well...
There's lots of room for you on the bandwagon...
The road may be rough, the weather may forget us..

Sorry, but poetry won’t convince me.

Do you at least SLIGHTLY agree with ANY of my points against Superbowl?

Not really.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don't get it, why are some of you switching to a different wagon even if you claim to scumread Glitch?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I took a look at Fwesnid ISO because i didn't even remember they were in the game. And it's a very low-impact slot with not much going for them town or scum-wise. It's not a bad lynch. But idk why i should switch there from Glitch when i think they are openly scum while Fwesnid is just a lurk-scum that probably wouldn't survive until ELO anyway.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Fwesnid is just a lurk-scum that probably wouldn't survive until ELO anyway.

*could be lurk-scum

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yup.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Because you're not getting glitch done today, you might SR the slot but not enough do for an elim especially after a PR claim

Scum can easily claim PR.
If we never lynch PR claims then we’d never get a lynch on scum D1 period because any mafia that’s run up can just use an easy "get out if lynch D1" card by shittily softing a PR role.

[NorwegianboyEE]

A50 idk why ur so bad at reading me. It’s amazing.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If i rolled scum i bet you’d hard TR me by now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

3- Even if you wanted an explicit full claim you could have asked for it first. But, NO, you VOTED first.

Oh boo hoo, cry me a river.
GET OVER IT!

[NorwegianboyEE]

A50 idk why ur so bad at reading me. It’s amazing.

I am NOT. In fact, I tend to TR you all the time. This time around YOU ARE SCUM

Because?

[NorwegianboyEE]

That’s the dumbest shit i’ve read in a good while. I’m going to sleep now. Night.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Still don’t TR glitch like at all.
VOTE: Fwesnid

[NorwegianboyEE]

Me and Nero are both town that scum have been consistently trying to paint as scum for petty reasons. Calling it now for bragging rights later.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh norwe. That vote is going to bite you in the ass.

I don’t get it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don’t agree. But ok.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Alt hunting is scummy.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Alisae
Opportunistic wagon hop

[NorwegianboyEE]

Hi Norwe,
What do you think of Offsuit?

I’m kinda up and down, sometimes they seem townish, sometimes scummish.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Did someone say something?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I REALLY like Hikari's 1458 and scumread of CSF/Alisae slot. I don't think scum is going to look at that replacement and build a case out of it, it's got to be a townie effort 100% of the time.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Did someone say something?

Yeah, I asked you why alt-hunting is scummy.

Because it's busywork. Making it visible to the thread that you're attempting to do something useful, when you're really not.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Granted, it’s not strong. But when i rolled scum in a previous setup, the first thing i did was try to expose everyone’s alts.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Norway
Can you guess why I vote here?

Better not be a blind vote.
Explain reasoning or I will yeet you to the grave

If you ISO me and read my last ~5 posts, it should become obvious that the vote is an attempt to get attention from Norway.

I like you.
Maybe i’ll pay attention to you from now on.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Who isn't Glitch and pushes you and/ or Nero? Is there anything else scummy about them? If you make a case I promise to vote there, to help you get support.

I’m not gonna make any cases right now.
But i think Stan1ey hasn’t been looking too hot. Their scumread on Nero just doesn’t fit for me.
I wanna sheep Hiraki right now tho.

[NorwegianboyEE]

The thing i don’t get is, if we all think his claim was fake. Why are we letting him off the hook? For the vague chance that he’ll be town pr that’s left alive for 4 days and scum won’t just rolecop/kill him until then? And arguing that we should lynch him is somehow scummy in itself? Honestly, some of you guys sound like the biggest noobs regarding this situation.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Glitch
Can we PLEASE just lynch this.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Glitch didn’t crumb their role, the claim was super convenient, vague. And the way they went about it was obtuse and awkward.

[NorwegianboyEE]

And if anyone thinks it’s scummy to react to how wtf his claim truly is, then git gud ya freaking plebs.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also Norwee, you're not screaming Town atm. I am worried.

Can you please stop this kind of baseless shade?
If you think i’m scum then explain why instead.
I’m sick of constantly reading different variations of: "why aren’t you super duper town? " to shade me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It’s like this is the game where my level of experience is starting to haunt me and now i’m seen as scum if i don’t put in the effort to towntell every page. It’s so annoying.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also Norwee, you're not screaming Town atm. I am worried.

Can you please stop this kind of baseless shade?
If you think i’m scum then explain why instead.
I’m sick of constantly reading different variations of: "why aren’t you super duper town? " to shade me.

This seems like a responce from someone who doesn't care whether he gets lynched or not.

What does that mean to you?

[NorwegianboyEE]

^Is that @ me
Nero?