Mafia 101 - Mafia Dodgeball: GAME OVER

dramonic · Post Post #4 (isolation #0) » Wed Sep 16, 2009 4:58 pm

confirm

dramonic · Post Post #25 (isolation #1) » Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:20 am

Vote: Kmd

Your avi is weeeeeird

dramonic · Post Post #79 (isolation #2) » Thu Sep 17, 2009 1:28 pm

Read the CoolDoG case, not convinced at all.

Vote: Sajin

It's a wonder he's not voting me yet

dramonic · Post Post #109 (isolation #3) » Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:26 pm

Clinging to the RVS is never a good thing, especially when a case (albeit not that great in my opinion) is layed out.

Unvote
Vote: Bub

dramonic · Post Post #112 (isolation #4) » Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:30 pm

As for experience:

I've played in a bunch of games (about 20) and am playing in 10 or so right now. My win/loss record is terrible however.

Also, Sajin has developped an irrational obsession over signing-up in all the games I play and getting me lynched as swiftly as possible

dramonic · Post Post #115 (isolation #5) » Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:54 pm

I wasn't scum in Chzo and Scottish

Also, my definition of way back is incompatible with "three hours ago", surprisingly.

dramonic · Post Post #120 (isolation #6) » Thu Sep 17, 2009 5:09 pm

Why would I vote for someone whom I personally have no reason to think is scum?

dramonic · Post Post #212 (isolation #7) » Fri Sep 18, 2009 3:06 pm

Kmd4390- This guy is helping the town so much right now that if he's scum, we're all in trouble anyway.

This game sure moves fast. Rereading to develop an opinion with the recent events

dramonic · Post Post #238 (isolation #8) » Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:33 am

Kmd4390 wrote:If the scum say "Well, Kmd thinks this guy is town, so let's kill that guy", then that's nothing more than an ego boost. Seriously, it doesn't hurt to give my opinions.

I think you're completely missing the point Kmd. If scum knows your entire scum-reads, they know who they can build a case agaisnt without garnering too much suspicion from you.

Unvote

The case on RF doesn't feel that much stronger than the case on CDG. I mean, it is better, but not something I'd heartily approve.

Are all your cases like that Kmd?

dramonic · Post Post #242 (isolation #9) » Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:04 am

The unvote was because I was rereading, I don't want my vote to stay randomly somewhere when my reads are changing

HOWEVER

Vote: Bub

Is still my top scum for previously stated reasons.
Also, are you planning to jump on every bandwagon that form as long as it ain't you, Bub?

I am not liking Kmd's excessive overeagerness one bit.

dramonic · Post Post #249 (isolation #10) » Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:40 am

No no, I'm refering to the fact you jumped on both developping wagons without hesitation. Surely you see more scumminess around the court than just those two?

dramonic · Post Post #274 (isolation #11) » Sat Sep 19, 2009 11:55 am

Kmd4390 wrote: Um. If someone is scummy, making a case against someone else who is scummy isn't going to clear them.

Indeed, what I'm saying is that if they wagon someone who is scummy on your list they have less odds to garner your attention, if I'm not mistaken.

Like what? Based on the small details no one thinks to look at? Early in the game, yes.

Based on small details in one post.

This town needs some balls. I decided to step up and be those balls. So if you are town, I am your balls. Don't talk to your balls that way!

My balls are sure expressive lately then <_<

dramonic · Post Post #277 (isolation #12) » Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:54 pm

RF, when you're done with the AtEs give me a cue XS

dramonic · Post Post #290 (isolation #13) » Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:41 am

Is it just me or is AtE the theme for this game -_-

dramonic · Post Post #306 (isolation #14) » Sun Sep 20, 2009 12:53 pm

Unvote

Milkshake

Milkshake, what's with the hardcore backpedaling? I find it very scummy.

dramonic · Post Post #308 (isolation #15) » Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:04 pm

Vi wrote:
Not terribly fond of dramonic, even though he's providing A+ entertainment value
Cut by someone who's going to make me look like a parrot >.>.

Care to elaborate?

dramonic · Post Post #310 (isolation #16) » Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:26 pm

scummy, not really. Overeager, very.

Also I must not have expressed myself correctly; I almost always remove my vote when I am rereading. This time it was pretty useless since I ended up revoting fairly quickly, but when it's a longer game I don't want my vote to be used as a quick-lynch boost.

Also, if you zoom out for a minute you'll notice Vaya hasn't posted since the beginning of the game, while Hayker posted about 2 days ago.

dramonic · Post Post #321 (isolation #17) » Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:25 pm

sorry mod, I really did mean to

unvote
Vote: Milkshake

dramonic · Post Post #332 (isolation #18) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:25 am

Last time you asked for patience it didn't work out too well

dramonic · Post Post #335 (isolation #19) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:01 am

fake day-killing Snow_Bunny

dramonic · Post Post #362 (isolation #20) » Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:48 am

Alvinz, write grammatical, full sentences please.

Kmd, seriously I don't know. He put you the towniest, you should be happy

CD wrote: While he lurks keep the votes coming!

Unvote
Vote: CoolDoG

So very scummy.

dramonic · Post Post #383 (isolation #21) » Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:58 am

yeah, at this point I have no more reasons not to

Unvote
Vote: Rayfrost

dramonic · Post Post #387 (isolation #22) » Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:20 am

The case as been clearly laid out extensively.

I don't like Ray's response to the wagon building on him. At all.

dramonic · Post Post #395 (isolation #23) » Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:52 am

I smell a daykill on CoolDoG

dramonic · Post Post #401 (isolation #24) » Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:36 pm

it's an echo of other players, from one end to the other.

dramonic · Post Post #407 (isolation #25) » Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:51 pm

I'm not exactly planning on doing that. It'd be long, tedious and a serious waste of time. You say that as if I'm the first one to call you out on your LoS (which can hardly be called a LoS)

dramonic · Post Post #410 (isolation #26) » Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:56 pm

After amassing a certain amount of accusation, the cases on you are bound to be redundant. However, it's less than credible that your LoS mirrors the general consensus almost to a tee.

dramonic · Post Post #413 (isolation #27) » Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:08 pm

There's a somewhat clear difference between a general consensus and unanimity that you seem to have missed.

dramonic · Post Post #435 (isolation #28) » Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:56 am

Vi, I believe Jordan to be town. He acts exactly like that in ALL our games together. Unless he's scum in all three, he's town.

dramonic · Post Post #444 (isolation #29) » Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:31 am

roles with post restrictions arent basic Bub

dramonic · Post Post #446 (isolation #30) » Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:43 am

I doubt anyone has a post restriction, this is a large normal.

dramonic · Post Post #451 (isolation #31) » Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:43 pm

Vi wrote:
tubby 438 wrote:kmd and vi need more fire you guys great comin out of the gate then fizzeled
There's a certain amount of futility in trying to lead the effort in a Large game. >.>

Can one of you clarify what these two sentence are supposed to mean? I can't understand ^_^;

dramonic · Post Post #467 (isolation #32) » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:01 pm

You should still try to post a bit more Alvinz ;S

dramonic · Post Post #475 (isolation #33) » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:55 pm

I think you're the third scum of Alvinz theory, so...

You're idiotic scum *pat pat*

dramonic · Post Post #478 (isolation #34) » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:57 pm

poor thing, ask jordan to hug you

dramonic · Post Post #479 (isolation #35) » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:58 pm

err, wrong game <<

dramonic · Post Post #490 (isolation #36) » Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:57 am

Tubby, you're going to get modkilled again -_-

dramonic · Post Post #491 (isolation #37) » Fri Sep 25, 2009 1:05 am

possible V/LA until the 27th.

dramonic · Post Post #494 (isolation #38) » Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:00 am

Make it good then, cuz lurking is baaaaaaaaaaaaad

dramonic · Post Post #503 (isolation #39) » Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:16 am

The case on milk is seriously blown out of proportion...

dramonic · Post Post #571 (isolation #40) » Sun Sep 27, 2009 2:14 pm

back...

Looks like some pretty intense blind-tunneling has occured in my absense.

dramonic · Post Post #583 (isolation #41) » Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:25 am

Relax Alvinz, you're getting way too frustrated.

I have to agree with at least part of what KMD said, neither of Alvinz and Snow seem scum to me.

dramonic · Post Post #590 (isolation #42) » Mon Sep 28, 2009 4:12 pm

Kmd4390 wrote:Vi, I still don't understand your argument. You said Ray would make better arguments as scum. I want to know why you believe this. Your reasoning so far makes no sense.

Well, his arguments couldn't be that much worse really. I don't think that's indicative of towniness though.

dramonic · Post Post #604 (isolation #43) » Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:59 am

You've pretty much discarded the RayFrost case without saying why. Can you also provide an explanation for that Vi?

Am I the only one who never call you Vi?

dramonic · Post Post #612 (isolation #44) » Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:11 am

He's doing it on purpose Vi.

Which gotme wondering, what gender are you?

dramonic · Post Post #616 (isolation #45) » Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:05 pm

We've hit a wall ><

dramonic · Post Post #617 (isolation #46) » Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:07 pm

do we have a deadline?

dramonic · Post Post #621 (isolation #47) » Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:08 pm

...whut?

dramonic · Post Post #630 (isolation #48) » Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:08 am

That's a very complete defense you've got there milk. <<

dramonic · Post Post #644 (isolation #49) » Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:22 am

currently at deadline we have a No Lynch. If those who aren't voting could take a stance it'd be much appreciated and less scummy on their part.

dramonic · Post Post #677 (isolation #50) » Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:52 pm

this game is kinda stalling

dramonic · Post Post #693 (isolation #51) » Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:38 am

RayFrost wrote: wait, wait, wait...

you are voting him over me/SB
purely
because he is 2nd in the VC?

Considering the no.1 wagon is you, why are you complaining. Unless you'Re bussing of course...

dramonic · Post Post #706 (isolation #52) » Sun Oct 04, 2009 5:28 pm

At the very least you ought to put your vote where your mouth is.

dramonic · Post Post #714 (isolation #53) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:54 am

Vi wrote:Tell me if this is an appropriate description of RayFrost's most recent posts:
*OMG 24 hours to deadline
*VOTE someone who will not factor into the deadline lynch at all

Something like that, yep.

dramonic · Post Post #723 (isolation #54) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:55 am

10 hours left.

dramonic · Post Post #737 (isolation #55) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:18 pm

3 quarters, not one.

Yup, my sister caught the error and I was about to fix it. You totally didn't see anything.

dramonic · Post Post #745 (isolation #56) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:54 pm

If you're vig then move it and contribute to a lynch or you're dead.

dramonic · Post Post #747 (isolation #57) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:10 pm

It's not to prove you are vig.
It's the fact that you might want to, yknow, save your skin?

dramonic · Post Post #753 (isolation #58) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:23 pm

they have 35 minutes

dramonic · Post Post #770 (isolation #59) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:02 pm

DING DONG

deadline.

dramonic · Post Post #774 (isolation #60) » Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:42 am

ZZZzzzZZZ

...huh?

dramonic · Post Post #781 (isolation #61) » Mon Oct 12, 2009 1:07 pm

A cop that hit your knees with a mallet

dramonic · Post Post #784 (isolation #62) » Mon Oct 12, 2009 1:36 pm

So... what's a Kerrigan cop?

dramonic · Post Post #789 (isolation #63) » Mon Oct 12, 2009 2:16 pm

alvinz95 wrote:I don't like Vi's suspicions. Mostly based on lurkers and do nothing people.

and that's not what you just accused SB of being... 1 minute ago?

dramonic · Post Post #792 (isolation #64) » Mon Oct 12, 2009 2:44 pm

You mean Vi's suspicions I presume?

dramonic · Post Post #803 (isolation #65) » Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:27 am

Vote: Tubby

Behaviour post-claim was horrible, scummy, sickening, etc... You're an experienced player, Vig is a very easily verifiable claim and you know it.

dramonic · Post Post #807 (isolation #66) » Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:16 am

Vi wrote:Obvious piggyback is obvious.

What are you accusing me of exactly?

dramonic · Post Post #809 (isolation #67) » Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:12 am

Agreed to would be a more correct way of saying it. So since I'm agreeing with you I must be scum?

dramonic · Post Post #815 (isolation #68) » Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:39 am

Bub and RF.

Although Bub has taken a significant drop on my scumdar.

dramonic · Post Post #833 (isolation #69) » Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:15 am

rarely ever gives an opinion... I expressed suspicion on CoolDoG, Bub, Rayfrost and Milkshake. Similarely I've expressed town view on Jordan. There might be others, I skimmed my ISO. Point is, you're wrong.

I'm fine with getting rid of the active lurker

Vote: SSK

dramonic · Post Post #835 (isolation #70) » Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:43 am

Use the vote history, that tends to work

dramonic · Post Post #838 (isolation #71) » Wed Oct 14, 2009 1:29 pm

That's not exactly a viable defense Tubby.

dramonic · Post Post #842 (isolation #72) » Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:49 pm

but you cant replace someone for not posting content. And he IS posting.

dramonic · Post Post #853 (isolation #73) » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:30 pm

...

Just no.

Unvote
Vote: CoolDoG

@Mod: Your votecount is erroneous, you have 2 Sajins and 2 Snow_Bunnies

dramonic · Post Post #855 (isolation #74) » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:42 pm

Did you read 851?

dramonic · Post Post #857 (isolation #75) » Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:27 pm

It's not even remotely clear and my perception is something along the line of "I think we should lynch Ray, but I'm voting SSK, but I don't want to hammer him or get on a Ray wagon."

Also, his play so far isn't what I'd call town <<

dramonic · Post Post #860 (isolation #76) » Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:52 pm

You're making me sound like a steak here <<

dramonic · Post Post #862 (isolation #77) » Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:56 pm

how is it unfortunate? In your mind I'm caught scum, shouldn't you be happy?

dramonic · Post Post #888 (isolation #78) » Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:23 pm

I am wounded by your lack of appreciation on my person

CoolDoG is making scummy posts, it's only natural to vote him. Sajin is his usual self and SSK is lurking, he'll get replaced anyways.
Bub I'm not sure about, but I'll develop from the CDG flip (if flip there is)

dramonic · Post Post #920 (isolation #79) » Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:47 pm

You can't just lynch someone off gut Tubby.
Well, theorically you can, but I doubt anyone is sheepish enough to follow THAT arguement.

dramonic · Post Post #922 (isolation #80) » Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:17 pm

My mind IS made.

dramonic · Post Post #925 (isolation #81) » Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:21 pm

hello, malpascp

dramonic · Post Post #927 (isolation #82) » Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:16 pm

dramonic · Post Post #959 (isolation #83) » Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:27 pm

Vi wrote: I'm also curious as to why dramonic didn't do much to dissuade the wagon, but I have my own theory about that.

If you look at who was present between the claim and the lynch you'll notice four players. Rayfrost, Tubby, Imaginality and I. The latter two weren't voting Milk and the former two are the ones you're accusing of "lynching the claim." The only one remotely receptive would have been rayfrost, but he was the backup lynch, how the hell am I to convince him?

Also, if your theory is more elaborate than "you are scum" I'd be interested in hearing it if you don't mind Vi.

dramonic · Post Post #965 (isolation #84) » Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:46 pm

I think I heard that somewhere

dramonic · Post Post #982 (isolation #85) » Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:38 pm

Will post a better one tomorrow. No particular order, readless are people who haven't stood out to me, at ALL.

Townread

malpascp
roflcopter
Dry-fit
Vi
imaginality

Neutralread

manho
Snow_Bunny
alvinz95
Bub Bidderskins

Scumread

CooLDoG
RayFrost
tubby216
Sajin

Readless

Hayker
DeathNote
chamber
MafiaSSK

dramonic · Post Post #994 (isolation #86) » Sat Oct 24, 2009 3:58 am

Vi wrote:dramonic's list is humorous. It's too bad Kmd isn't here to critique it.
Where did malpascp-Town come from?

His predecessor, Jordan, played exactly like he played as town in all games I've been with him. I have a strong meta town read of him.

dramonic · Post Post #1006 (isolation #87) » Sat Oct 24, 2009 4:01 pm

RayFrost wrote:
MafiaSSK wrote:
roflcopter wrote:so many people listing rayfrost as top-tier scummy, so few willing to vote him

hey manho, why aren't you voting? why aren't you voting for rayfrost in particular?
Hi Rofl. I will follow you.
Unvote, vote rayfrost
I foresee rofl calling this obv bussing and buddying~

actually, that is called piggybacking

dramonic · Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:17 pm

SB isn't the lynch of the day, you should focus your hatred on players that can get lynched if you really wanna help town.

dramonic · Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:05 am

I dont think the problem is that we have a town that isn't really united.
It's more like 40% of the town is scummy.

dramonic · Post Post #1075 (isolation #90) » Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:24 pm

"and a meta catfight ensues"

I'm taking the bets!

dramonic · Post Post #1097 (isolation #91) » Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:36 pm

chamber wrote: I have no idea what a chainsaw defense is. From context I'm going to assume its attacking the attacker of someone to defend said someone.

Bingo

dramonic · Post Post #1122 (isolation #92) » Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:30 am

lol, even when voting CDG deathnote is still tunneling of rayfrost XD

dramonic · Post Post #1151 (isolation #93) » Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:24 pm

[]======

dramonic · Post Post #1155 (isolation #94) » Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:43 pm

ja

thanks for the correction Vi...

What's your gender anyways?

dramonic · Post Post #1171 (isolation #95) » Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:08 pm

Would a redirector be plausible in a large normal?
I mean, unless CDG/Doc got real lucky without that were missing a pair of kills here.

dramonic · Post Post #1174 (isolation #96) » Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:19 pm

I'm aware of that. Thing is, the vig is dead and I doubt the mafia would shoot themselves.

dramonic · Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:32 am

what's the other 10%?

dramonic · Post Post #1185 (isolation #98) » Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:49 am

Juls wrote:Possible doc protection and a paranoid gun owner/granny?

PGO would be dead too.

dramonic · Post Post #1187 (isolation #99) » Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:11 am

That's a lucky doc <_<

dramonic · Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:47 am

the definition seems pretty clear that anyone who targets the PGO dies, but the effects still go through.

dramonic · Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:20 pm

You sure love me Vi ^_^;

dramonic · Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:38 am

Vi wrote:
RayFrost 1224 wrote:lol.

I didn't dodge the question in that post. What I have to say about you: I think youa re town.
I know, I know. You answered the question and I like your reaction, but I had to get the Dodgeball quote out
sometime
.

This is the part where people begin accusing me of obvcoaching my scumbuddy. Cue in three, two, one...

looooooooaded

dramonic · Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:05 am

RayFrost wrote:
Vi wrote:
RayFrost 1242 wrote:What's a duff? arse?
Your British slang term matches my British slang term. Except I don't think either of us are British.

Could you point me to a Town game for dramonic?
Mafia 100 first game as vig, and I think I did decently on my choices. I replaced into that, town won, I shot dram on the day before lylo, scum shot somebody else and forgot to RB me, we lynched scum... ahh.... good times, good times.

And I had totally called the exact setup to you twat ;_;

dramonic · Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:11 am

I can't see the avi... damn you school image blocker!

I'd be more aggressive if people flipped the way I want them to.

Never played with MafiaSSK, but he was scummy
I don't believe in a Bubscum. His interaction with CoolDoG day 1 didn't come off as bussing to me.

However I could get behind a bunny lynch

Unvote
Vote: Bunny

...feels like I said that 5 times in the last few days...

dramonic · Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:13 am

RayFrost wrote:
dramonic wrote:
And I had totally called the exact setup to you twat ;_;
Umm... you thought I was scum for bad reasoning and tried to defend hewitt, the rolecop claimed vig... I shot you cuz I didn't want to lose cuz I chose you over DN.

Details details, just switch the two of you. In light of the rolecop flip I'd have expected you to shoot DN down

dramonic · Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:29 am

something along the line of "explique moÃ© dont Ã§a" -> roughly "explain this to me" very slangy.

Actually, it'd be more accurate to say this game just loves lynching people I dont want dead, and it annoys me. The only lynch I've approved so far is the SSK one (not that many occured) but the wagon on Bub is ridiculous. Unless they decided to pull an elaborate bus day 1, CoolDoG and Bub are obv-different alignment. Similarly, lynching a CLAIMED VIG (even if claimed late) is, I'm sorry to say, purely idiotic.

dramonic · Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:30 am

Ex-plick mow-way don saw
or something along that line

I'm not giving this game as much attention as I should, I'm aware. With ym recent death in your game I should be more alive in this one XP

dramonic · Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:25 pm

Snow_Bunny wrote: Well, if I can make a last list, then it would be something along:

Ray
Tubby
Bub

CD

alvinz

He's dead you know <<

dramonic · Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:27 am

I get a much more town than scum feeling from Rayfrost. I saw his play as town and it's not really different in this game.

Snow_Bunny is more of a wild card to me. She is scummy, but then again I find her scummy in most every game i play with her XP

dramonic · Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:09 pm

Looks like it to me.
We'll get to see if Alvinz crazy tunelling was any good XD

dramonic · Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:04 pm

The user you are trying to join is currently unavailable. If you want to know when they are free, press the star. 0,95$ fees are due.

dramonic · Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:06 pm

damn you non-canadians.
I bet Nik would get it

dramonic · Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:08 pm

Japan is part of not-canada

dramonic · Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:55 am

QFT.

Also, if Rayfrost and DN could stop throwing bricks at each other it'd be nice. You can call out someone for activity without being unpleasant, look what Vi is doing to me

dramonic · Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:59 am

manho wrote:SB should claim.

that

dramonic · Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:04 am

RayFrost wrote: re dram:

vi already said that.

say what?

dramonic · Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:06 am

I'm supporting the demand

which has been filled.

dramonic · Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:31 am

Wake up you zombies...
Bunny is at l-1, correct?

dramonic · Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:42 am

WIFOM

dramonic · Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:29 pm

Tubby, why Alvinz exactly?

dramonic · Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:36 pm

I don't like Tubby, that doesn't make me want to molest him <_<

dramonic · Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:43 pm

I'm aware.

dramonic · Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:18 am

Considering we lynched the vig day 1, I'm a bit sceptical at the possibility of a vig shot. Especially on those two.

dramonic · Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:25 am

I am STRONGLY against setting a chain-lynch like that. It gives scum/SK an easy point by point list of who they don't need to kill.

I'll do a quick reread and give my player opinions in the next post.

dramonic · Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:49 pm

DeathNote: It's creepy, but for once I think DN is town. He gives me a different vibe than usual
Question: Did you spike my drink?
Serious question: What's with the tunnel on Bub?
Town-aligned

Vi: Quality of play = 1/X, with X being the amount of dead people. Seriously, as the game goes on, Vi's play gets worse
Question: Are you losing interest in the game?
Neutral-Aligned

RayFrost: I don't think I've actually ever seen RF scum, and his play ressembles what I've seen. Get my drift?
Question: Why are you tunneling like that on Manho?
Town-Aligned

tubby216: His usual play really, I have a meta townread on him currently.
Question: Apart from "he sucks" and "I'm sure he's bussing", what's your case on Alvinz?
Town-Aligned

malpascp: Predecessor was scummy, actual user is lurking. Joy.
Question: So... why is Bub obv-SK?
Scum-Aligned

imaginality: Meager participation, not active enough. I really hate how he just drops his suspicions over nothing (see ISO 9-10-13)
Question: Are you EVER going to make a case and keep it?
Scum-aligned

Sajin : Unusually quiet. I'm used to a more exuberant Sajin. Lotsa one liners when he post too.
Question: What happened to your behaviour in RotM?
Scum-aligned

roflcopter (since vaya and zaz did f-all): Decent activity, definitely one of the more active players in the game (if you take into account he popped in way later than the others).
Question: Now that some flips have occured, you'll notice your earlier reads are somewhat wrong. How are your reads now?
Town-aligned

Dry-fit: Tunneling on Tub, Milk, CDG and BB. That is all
Question: ISO 18 you say BB is among your highest townreads, next time you mention him you're saying he's fishy and voting him. W...t...f...?
Scum-Aligned

Bub Bidderskins: Terrible, big posts that mean absolutely NOTHING. It's annoying as hell
Question: Since you consider you've climbed in everyone's scumlist, how bout you try to get off them instead of brushing it off?
Scum-Aligned

manho: I read through his post, yet I couldn't actually gather an opinion (barring stuff on Ray...). That's not a good thing.
Question: Right now none, since saying participate to a V/LA person is not exactly efficient
Scum-Aligned

alvinz95: Mostly a huge tunnel on SB (granted, she flipped scum), with a bit of dirt flung at Ray, Bub and Tubby occasionally.
Now if you look closely, he never really comments on Malp, Dry-Fit, manho, me, rofl, Vi, Deathnote or imaginality.
Question: Could you get off your tunnel and look at the game?
Neutral-inclined

Yes, my reads have changed somewhat radically since the 23rd.

dramonic · Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:50 pm

Oh, forgot to add

Unvote: whoever
Vote: Malp

dramonic · Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:46 pm

Good idea, let's choose someone and just ignore everybody else, great way to win the game.
Whatcha going to do when those three are dead? Twiddle your thumbs?

dramonic · Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:13 pm

I bet you'll say it again later

dramonic · Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:01 pm

I think you have too many days in there, there were only 3 of us XS

dramonic · Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:07 pm

purely on the fact I have a gut feeling. Also because Malp is lurking the hell out of the game and all his comments are infinitely scummy.

dramonic · Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:10 pm

While I see the less active presence of ROFL, I'm not sure I understand the sudden change of tide from malp to him...

Also, touhou cloud!

dramonic · Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:09 pm

thank you Vi.

I'll reread him in ISO and compare with other games.

dramonic · Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:40 am

Vi wrote:Then again, dramonic is lurking
right now
.

I was sleeping. It's something I still do.

So I metaed a bit. And today's behaviour looks nothing like whut I saw.

Unvote
Vote: ROFL

dramonic · Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:20 pm

you should update your sig, fyi.

dramonic · Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:56 pm

Sajin is acting like irrational scum, Tubby is buddying onto you, ROFL has stopped talking, prolly because he doesnt want anyone to analyze his play when he flips mafia.

ANd Alvinz is being hysteric

dramonic · Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:18 pm

meaning... what exactly?

dramonic · Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:43 pm

alvinz95 wrote: Conclusion:

Vi is probably scum
RayFrost is probably scum
tubby is likely scum
roflcopter is maybe scum
dramonic is bad town
Everyone else is worthless town

Well at least now he admits to being worthless. It's a step up.

dramonic · Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:10 pm

Vi is dead and flipped town, Tajo. Same for rayfrost.

dramonic · Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:03 pm

Mod: You're saying we need 7 to no-lynch

Tajo, your sig needs an update!

self, back to the malp lynch. He's been completely lurking for half the game now, it's more than time he gets offed

Vote: Malp

dramonic · Wed Nov 25, 2009 5:50 pm

would be useful anyways, considering it will give us more info about who the SK is not <<

dramonic · Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:49 pm

Well, for clarity, don't claim if it would out a town PR

dramonic · Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:01 am

Oh come on, 7 scums and a SK in a 20 player game? This is the worst bluff ever =_=

dramonic · Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:53 am

agh, so sorry, I forgot to post X_X

So... not that I missed much.
Why isn't Malp lynched yet?

dramonic · Thu Dec 03, 2009 5:06 pm

Those protections are not credible. I'm surprised you havent been counterclaimed.

dramonic · Sun Dec 06, 2009 3:39 pm

which doesnt prevent him from being mafia like has been sugested.

Unvote

in case I hadnt done it already.

dramonic · Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:05 pm

Vote: Bub

Still likely scum in my mind.

I'd vote Malp if he wasn't unCCed doc.

dramonic · Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:30 pm

Don't
Lynch
Tajo

Tubby played his usual town meta + Tajo is playing town.

conclusion: Tajo is town.
Lynch Bub instead.

dramonic · Thu Dec 10, 2009 4:30 pm

As a matter of fact, I do Manho. Border of Touhou and Mafia.

dramonic · Fri Dec 11, 2009 4:18 am

*pat imaginality's head*

dramonic · Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:59 am

Dryfit is authentifying the claim though.

Also, your plan is unusable Malp, with all due respect. If Scum knows Dry will hit an innocent, they can just not kill and by your thought we'll end up lynching the innocent.

dramonic · Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:04 pm

This is headed to be the most obvious mislynch of mafia history =_=

dramonic · Sun Dec 13, 2009 5:31 pm

we need someone to jump wagon else Bub can force a no-lynch :S

dramonic · Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:00 pm

If Bub is scum he'd be playing to his wincondition by voting Tajo.

dramonic · Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:37 pm

Don't lynch Malp.

Lynch Alvinz.

dramonic · Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:54 pm

In case I'm not being clear enough:
claim: FBI Agent

Vote: Alvinz

dramonic · Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:28 pm

If you can see my moves, I reckon you can explain what's my win motive for claiming a role that once you "flip nilla" will get me kill and make sure I lose?

dramonic · Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:47 pm

Just to clarify: Yes, Malp is more than likely to be scum with the kills from the night, but in this specific games killing the SKs take priority.

dramonic · Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:47 pm

and that plural is not a typo.

dramonic · Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:36 pm

I checked:

Vi
Rayfrost
Tubby
Malp
Alvinz

In that order. I didnt lay any breadcrumbs. I never do.

dramonic · Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:07 pm

alvinz95 wrote: He has down NOTHING useful and has had SK behavior. This is lylo, if you f*8ckin lynch me, you guys will flippin' lose.

Let's pretend you are not lying for a moment. I've established clearly that I can't be a serial killer due to basically suiciding by claiming FBI agent. Additionally, why would this be LyLo? For this to be LyLo we'd need at lest 3 scum. I dont believe a setup with 6 scum and 2 SK is balanced.

And obviously dramonic, this is is lylo considering that there's 1 scum, 1 SK, and they both kill a person. Thats obviously why you're doing this. Then the town will get to choose who wins, you or tajo.

If you believe that you should be pushing for a No lynch, since under your precept we are in MyLo.

Seriously, lets kill dramonic, he's confirmed scum/SK it really doesn't matter, tho I think he's a SK.

Oh noes, I've been outed as the SK who must make sure he lose when he's a day away from decent chance of victory

Dammit, if the town flipping believes dramonic, I'm officially quitting mafiascum. Whenever I play, no one every believes me despite my killer evidence, like you guys should have for 3 days on Snow_bunny. God.

AtE

Dramonic is planning to kill of the town as today is lylo. He claims he'll be killed if he was SK/Mafia by the opposite side if he was fake-claiming, therefore he wouldn't do it, but its in best interest for both to keep each other alive and kill off the town, because we already know who the scum/SK pair are. Tajo and dramonic.

Let's take the facts.
1. By your theory, there is still me and Tajo as villains, with obvscum Malp.
2. So... instead of letting the lynch of Malp take its course, I choose to jump out in the open and bullshit a claim to hope to get you lynched.
If I suceed and you "flip town"
A) As scum with Malp, I ruined it for my scumteam since the real SK can shoot one of us to make sure we lose and get the other lynched the next day.
B) As lone SK, getting the mafia to shoot me during the night, basically securing the mafia win.
If I fail as a villain:
A) Doom my faction.

Am I getting this right?

dramonic · Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:09 pm

ugh, miscounted since he never mentionned Malp, nvm the MyLo comment.

dramonic · Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:15 pm

Also, it's important you guys know the mafiosos don't have a kill, it's hinted at in the death scenes (and in my role PM). Notice how when the bodies were search, never was a weapon found?

dramonic · Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:28 pm

My PM is pretty flavourless.
What's tipping me off is the fact my investigation results' wording is very broad.

dramonic · Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:51 pm

That can be explained through several possibilities:
A kill-less mafia could probably have more than 1 doc.
If the SK is indeed alone, I wouldnt be surprised if he has strongman attributes.

dramonic · Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:12 pm

Vi first out of fear
Rayfrost I was real unsure
Malp and Tubby are naturally antitown. Tubby would have prolly been able to surf to endgame on his meta as a SK.
Alvinz because he's been tunneling all game, which is antitown, but wouldve had to bus like a monster against SB.

dramonic · Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:13 pm

Also, before you ask:
I didnt check you because I expected you to die, what with being a real uninformationnal NK.

dramonic · Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:20 pm

My PM doesnt tell me there are no mafia kills. My result uses a term that could assimilate with "actual threat" instead of SK.

Also, noticed how we found a gun in milkshake's shoe?
Now notice how we never found ANY weapon on the three dead mafiosos?

dramonic · Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:34 pm

it never mentions SK in my role PM.

dramonic · Sat Dec 19, 2009 5:20 am

something along the line of threat.

dramonic · Sat Dec 19, 2009 6:48 am

DeathNote wrote:I am going to let this post brew for a bit and see what people can brainstorm because... I am out of ideas. :/

Voting the SK would be a good one.

dramonic · Sun Dec 20, 2009 4:29 am

I guess...
Malp, we know you're scum anyways, you won't get more suspicion from hammering :p

dramonic · Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:14 am

Alvinz is saying

7 players (2 scum (Malp Tajo), 1 SK (Me), 4 townie)

2-1-4

he dies
2-1-3

two kills during the night. With everyone supposedly outed we can have a variety of outcomes.

If SK possess both kills

0-1-3
Town win

1-1-2
Town Lose

2-1-1
Scum win

If scum possess a kill

1-0-3
MyLo with likely town win

2-1-1
Scum-win

2-0-2
Scum-win

2-1-2
Town lose

This supposes Malp is scum with Tajo and no other disruptive actions go through.
If he thinks Malp is town, then:

7 players
1-1-5

goes down to
1-1-4

SK with 2 kills

0-1-3
town win

1-1-2
town lose

Scum has a kill

0-0-4
town win

0-1-3
town win

1-0-3
MyLo with probable town win

1-1-2
Town lose

1-1-3
SK lose with probable town win.

dramonic · Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:36 am

oh...
sorry ^_^;

dramonic · Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:54 am

No.

Then there is a chance you are town. Don't give yourself to much credit.

dramonic · Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:06 pm

under what precept would you not be able to have abilities other than a NK?

dramonic · Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:15 pm

yes yes, that's what they all say. We'll see about that when you get lynched.

dramonic · Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:35 pm

you killing him. Seriously, stop trying to delay your death.

dramonic · Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:41 am

I know malp is not today's lynch, I was referring to tomorrow.
But he IS doing a good stalling job right now, making him even more scummy.

dramonic · Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:15 am

malpascp wrote:You didnt answer me.
Do you want me to hammer?

yes

btw Alvinz, have you had any scarring experience with gays or something? =_=

dramonic · Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:45 am

I dont think it was. With what DN came up with, there is a slight chance you might actually be town (if the stars align themselves).

Additionally, we lynched a SK, I dont call that a bad day :S

dramonic · Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:31 pm

alvinz95 wrote:
dramonic wrote:I dont think it was. With what DN came up with, there is a slight chance you might actually be town (if the stars align themselves).

Additionally, we lynched a SK, I dont call that a bad day :S
Seriously dramonic, stop it. We all know you're the SK now. Why the hell are you doing this? You still haven't answered.

If you flip townie, then I got redirected and am going to get mislynched tomorrow.
That, and the SK is laughing now. Hard.

dramonic · Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:55 pm

Why is it you are so sure I'm lying?

dramonic · Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:34 pm

nuuuuuues!

dramonic · Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:19 pm

of course it was :S

dramonic · Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:08 am

I really really really really never expected DN to kill me after the Alvinz flip 0_o

I was practically screaming lynch me tomorrow with the flip

obviously, I wanted him to kill Sajin, or tajo

I wonder if Alvinz is still pissed?

dramonic · Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:25 am

that answers the question.