Mafia 109 - A Glitch in time - Game Over!

[Weaboo]

{Kise}

This will be a fun, quick game. 24 hours of activity? Sheeyit, let me go ahead and get the RVS out the way.

Vote: The other hydras

For stealing our swag.

Unvote

Just in case.

Both of my heads are reading now. We've found scum on page 8 too...

[Weaboo]

{Reck's Catsup Post}

I love RVS when it's with these people. Ythan is slipping right into the vibe, I love it. Anyway, bullshit time is OVAAHHHHH and I'm caught up. (Fuck you, mod, for not PMing when the game started.)

*kicks* ~ Hayl

Since I missed the many pages of funtimes, I'm going to open this up with

Vote: Nachomamma8

. He's always a good lynch!

Actually, wait, this is so so so so so so anti-town it's not even funny. Srsly, wtf d00d.

FoS: Parama

. And I see Drippereth and Ythan agree. And your explanation of it is kinda wtf.

I don't get the Nik wagon tbqh. And this whole thing basically turns into the Ythan/Drippereth/Parama show for far too long and the whole thing is basically different iterations of "We should lynch CSL or Parama or Nikanor".

And then... okay,

Unvote, vote: McZombie

for coming in and treating page seven like the fucking RVS. And nearly hammering. CSL's hammer isn't scummy imo, he just sucks at this game. =P

Also, SpyreX conveniently pops in after the hammer? You fuckin' with me, mate?

FoS: SpyreX

...and that wasn't the hammer? Okay, nevermind, fuck me. Or us. Yes, fuck us. Because there are two of us in here. Drip still pushing for a Nikanor wagon is odd, as I still don't get the case on him. And yayyy for Yosarian2 being in this game, always wanted to play with him.

So basically even after all these pages nothing terribly important has happened. 'Kay. I prefer a CSL lynch to a Nikanor lynch, but I think a McZombie bandwagon is in order asap.

[Weaboo]

Wow.
Just, wow.
I wasn't cop-fishing, ftr. Me not knowing that there was no n0 would be ridiculous. I like to think I'm not stupid.
Have a good game, folks.

Not "good luck town"?

[Weaboo]

{Kise}

Nvm, he's at L-1.
Anyways I feel a claim is in order, anyone else agree?

NO it was a stupid f**king wagon. Nik was not buddying to you. The man was trying to see whether he should agree with Drip's scum assessment of you, likely to determine if he would vote for you. There IS merit to Goof's belief that Nik could have been cop-fishing, but the people who voted Nik weren't even going off that.

Wow.
Just, wow.
I wasn't cop-fishing, ftr. Me not knowing that there was no n0 would be ridiculous. I like to think I'm not stupid.
Have a good game, folks.

I like how you're quiet for a long time, then 2 hours after CSL's mistaken hammer you comment. Hmm.... why not "good luck, town?" in this post?

Base on Opin 177 that have wolv 'n shit, I view this game under assumption there 2 no-town groups in this game. Nik vs. Mae rook rike scum-scumhunting if Nikano is mafya. ( )

@Ythan - What have you learned from the many questions you have asked others? Also, Reck's vote on Nacho was jokey. I'm sure of it.

Drip gets me to thinking about policy lynches... I just now imagine that scum, if not the easy lynchees, are setting up quicklynches on unchallenging players so that they can silence the stronger players at night. Nik almost got hammered 1 RL day into the game. Something scary to think about.

Since this is a plurality-lynch game, I would like to advocate holding off on voting if you're not firm with it (within the first 48 hours or so into the days) to prevent quicklynches. All that's required is majority vote, so the last 24 hours of a day looks ideal for judgment time -- get the talk out of the way, then see who's the best to string up.

Personally, I think the game needs more Orca Wang ~ Hayl

Holla at ya boy.

[Weaboo]

Wondering why he didn't move it to Parama when he saw some actual suspicion.

Because he moved it to McZombie.
And can you tease me/us by saying whether an answer from camn, dram and CSL would affect your town/scum read?

camn: yes/no?
dramonic: yes/no?
CSL: yes/no?

[Weaboo]

So with camn and dramonic, how would you categorize your question; a general concern?

[Weaboo]

Alright. Well Reck isn't on aim so he's probably done for the day. I/We will touch back on this when he returns.

And to be clear, I'm saying not to vote until halfway through the days. We're

supposed

to be online every RL day, anyway, so why rush a vote 2 RL days(?). Patience is a virtue. Quicklynching will become dangerous if these easy lynchees all flip town and the mafia nightkill those viewed as more threatening players. It's something I have done as scum, and surely others have done as scum as well. CSL is more of a vig target than a scum target anyway.

[Weaboo]

OK, Drip, then get your options for a counterwagon ready. Pressure people 48 hours into the day and let them know you'll likely vote them. If they have any sense, they'll hint to whether lynching them is a mistake and they better claim ahead of time to let people evaluate. Ideally, I say vote 3/4's into the days. If the prospective lynchee is active like they're supposed to be, they'll claim or whatever before that 4th RL day.

[Weaboo]

@Yos: Weaboo is xRECKONERx and Kise.

@KMD: Hey there. How's it going? What is your opinion of both Ythan and Drip?

[Weaboo]

Vote: Ythan

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[Weaboo]

Vote: Ythan

.

umwat: Weeabo

Vote: Ythan!!!

[Weaboo]

Kise won't be on till later so I can't discuss my thoughts with him before I post. I will say that we really really really really want an Ythan lynch, and would be totally okay with a Parama lynch as well. We were shocked Nik flipped scum, but that wagon was really weak and a matter of luck.

[Weaboo]

TOO MUCH FUCKING POSTING

SERIOUSLY TEN PAGES IN ONE DAY

GOD DAMMIT I HATE DOING A CATCHUP POST EVERY TIME I SIGN IN

[Weaboo]

{Kise}

I don't know what I want to say today. I've missed all of day 2 but apparently dramonic claimed gunsmith and SC-Hoop was VT <---- stating this so that Recky can see. I wish he was caught up so I can be spared the read.

@Drip - I need to go over something with my other head before I give you what you want, and I know what you want. Although.. I need to weigh whether it's good or bad. I will say that it

is

possible that dramonic's action last night went through if he's being truthful. After all, no one has claimed to be roleblocked yet, so there's no evidence of a scum RBer just yet...................

FOS Parama

. Obvbussing of Nik. I can't be the only one that thought this.

BBL... tomorrow***

[Weaboo]

Reck here. I'm not going to bother with D2 so I can keep my head in the game. Why hasn't Ythan been lynched yet, exactly? He's spamming this thread with contentless posts and fluff so hard it's making my head spin.

[Weaboo]

{Kise}

Yeah... so, who'd be surprised if today the Weaboos made another small post right here and now?

*doesn't raise hand*

To expand on why we think Parama bussed Nik, if you remember earlier on Day1, he commented on how he was kind of feeling the Nik wagon, but thinks we all should vote for CSL instead. Well, there was that fake-me-out lynch on Nik where Drip and & questioned why he didn't say "good luck, town" and then there was also a lot of freaking out based on CSL's panicky hammer (oh, so that's why CSL was the kill choice then... brain fart). So, round 2 begins and Parama enters a hammering-mode... Really? Where was that shyt in round 1 is what I want to know.

Who was it that was wondering if I got roleblocked? And, why?!

[Weaboo]

{Kise}

Vote: Nacho

K.

[Weaboo]

{Kise}

@Yanni - What's an LJ?

[Weaboo]

{Kise}

I don't do town lists (and for good reason... the only person I claimed a town read on in another game got NK'd), but here's who I would suggest you boys and gals lynch in the event I die.

Scum = Maemuki (tried to set up CSL as Nik's scumbuddy

before

Nik flipped; iso her), Parama, then Ythan if there's still scum left.

Null = Dram'. Even though OJ's white knight syndrome rubbed off on me and I hate to view you as scummy in any of our games, you did ignore things directed at you from others when this phase began.

Town = The rest. If you really want someone to be a NK target, or if you just want me to kiss your rearend and say why I think you're town, feel free to ask.

Drip twice said that she wanted Parama lynched, Anon. Saying it once is random, saying it twice means to me that she has something.

Well if Nik knew who was mafia and who was town, why would he cop-fish Drip if he's supposed to think of Parama as town...? Or is Parama not town?



The more and more I go through this... the more I'd rather have others lynched.

[Weaboo]

{Kise, again. Who else?}

Ythan, remember when I was questioning you on Day 1? It's because I felt like you were keeping others busy with pointless questions, or rather questions that would not lead to determining town and/or scum. I have theories that subconsciously relay in my head, so it's not easy for me to point my fingers on why I believe in things right away. Thinking on it, I can now say that I feel as though scum want to do just enough to appear productive and not give investigators a reason to target them. Sure, you did post dozens of times each real-life day, but you never gave the impression that the answers people gave you were leading to anything.

[Weaboo]

{Kise}

Your answer can be found here Spyrex:
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 37#2144337

And that Nik quote is something else to think about:
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 86#2144386

Ythan, most of your questions aren't important to the game or are never followed up by you. I'm trying to figure out what useful knowledge you gained during these times and why they don't (visibly) appear to affect your viewpoint.

Does wild baiting typically work in games with experienced players?

Is it Normal for us to not know what actions posted in-thread do?

I do love a bandwagon.

Vote: Nikanor

Note to SC: Please don't unvote without discovering something awesome. Also, I changed our forum skin to mafTigers.

Unvote

Nikanor is town. This wagon should be ashamed of itself.

Discover something awesome?

How do you figure?

It looks to me like folks are voting Nik because of his stuff and FoSing Para for what otherwise might not be scummy if Nik weren't under suspicion?

The suggestion to wait for deadline and plurality is not a good one.

Explain.

[Weaboo]

{Kise}

Let me go on record saying I believe there being a cautious vig rather than a 2nd non-town killing faction.

Yosarian - There's a difference between defending Nik and disagreeing with his (initial) wagon. Why would Reck and I show curiosity in Nik's "Have a good game" comment if we wanted to help our mate survive? Keep in mind we were on that little comment of his right after learning CSL failhammered him. Better yet, see what else I have to say to Nik here:
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 95#2122295

I'll accept you saying Reck and I have done little scumhunting since I just started getting back into the game.

Vote: Maemuki

Was not on either lynch, and questioned Nacho's wagon as a lurkerhunt. To me, it looks like she's selectively trying to nitpick at mislynch options. You want to talk about defending scum? Well, she begged us to wait for Nacho to answer before lynching him, then asked what the case was. She should have asked what the case was before determining whether it was justified to speedlynch him or not. Let's have a perfect game, guys.

[Weaboo]

Weeaboo needs to do more but I like my gut on him.

I'm still in the room, kupo.

*tilts head*

Maybe Gunsmith is a technical term for the role, if dram really is who he says he is. I actually thought this was another werewolves game. Anyway, check out Mae's views on known scum. She

is

scum.

K. Prayer time.

[Weaboo]

You do have a point on Nacho - but I really was confused. I'm pretty damn sure that you weren't on Nikanor's wagon, too, and I'm not saying that you're scum because of it, am I?

You tried to stall the Nacho lynch, 'member? That fabricated fight you had with Nik is what I like to call distancing. I noticed you tried to link Nik and CSL together early on (within the first 24 hours), then got all fussy when CSL "hammered" Nik.

@Pulindar - You have to do better. Explain the townread on Mae. What exactly has she done that you find pro-town, in other words.

[Weaboo]

{Kise}

I agree that Starbuck/McZombie is not aligned with Nik. A very nonchalant bus, if she is scum though.

I'll do the quiz later. Don't know if Reck will be able to continue playing.

[Weaboo]

Mae is Town

What happened to this, and why did you consider her town in the first place? Let me guess.... voting analysis? *folds arms*

{Kise}

1) Which player do you think is most likely scum? Why?

Maelyn, cuz I'm votin fer her. I commented on her stalling of the Nacho wagon and an earlier method where she tried to link CSL to Nik for flimsy reasons. Viagra was needed that day..

2) If that player were killed right now as scum, which player do you think is most likely to be that player's scumbuddy? Why?

MaB/Pulindar. Both are selectively speaking with who they choose, and Pulindar earlier wrote a big wall on all the living players, but had so little to say about Nacho. In fact, all Pulindar said about Nacho was that he was one of the best players they've ever seen, and requested they post more. What!? That's not giving your opinion on a player in the thread. That's some generalized stuff right thurr. I could actually settle for a Pul' lynch today now that I've gone over him more...

3) Who was bus'ing on the Nikanor and Nacho wagons?

Only scum would know for sure.. bwahahahaha!

4) Are you scum? Please answer with more than 10 words.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, and no. (11 words, or 22 if you count what's in this parenthesis, but you also have to consider "what's" as one word... okay, now we're at 38 words... NO, that was 39 because "we're" = two words, yeah?)

5) Why do you think Dramonic is still alive?

Because nobody has killed him, duh. To tell the truth, I believe I was roleblocked N2 and he was targeted for a kill, hence no death's that next morning, and hence why he was able to receive a result successfully.

6) Do you trust SpyreX?

As in follow him? No. As in think he's not scum? Yes. I've got a pretty wide town lists too. If you notice, not long ago I posted who I thought was scum, null, and considered everyone else town.

7) Was your response to Question #4 a lie?

No, no, no, no, no, no.... no. How do you say no in Spanish?

8) Who are your top 3 lynches today?
There should only be 2 more mafia at the maximum, not 3.

9) Please provide a list of lurkers you'd be willing to slay mercilessly, and explain why.

Maelyn is lurking, isn't she? I think... Starbuck is the only other lurker, but McZombie is not scum. Can't be. You telling me she would have put Nik in hammering range like that? I don't see it.

10) Who did you target last night?

Stop roleblocking me and I'll tell you.

[Weaboo]

I did? Or are you fishing so that I can confirm I softclaimed?

........

[Weaboo]

I think (know!!!) I forgot to say that he could have gotten protected that night. Like maybe he was supposed to be killed but received protection while I was roleblocked, so his gunsmithing went through since mafia didn't feel like they should block the person they were killing if indeed they targeted him.

Why would they could a claimed gunsmith? Probably thinking the town protective role would feel as though he was less deserving of protection than someone else.

[Weaboo]

I'm keenly interested in what Weaboo has to say today.

KEENLY.

I didn't want to label Drip scum, but I could see mafia asking me something like this if they RBed me the night before. This post read like some kind of fishing tactic, but I wasn't viewing Drip as scum otherwise so didn't want to bring it up.

While I'm at it, why did you need to emphasize the word keenly, Drip?

{All Kise BTW}

[Weaboo]

{Kise}

Nachomamma

one of the best players I've ever seen. Post more please.

Where's my misrep? As I said, this is what you said about Nacho. Compared to what you said about the rest of the living players, this looks more like neglect to take a stance on Nacho so that attention was on others.

[Weaboo]

MOD: Kise just informed me he can't play anymore, and I kinda forgot about this game, so I'm gonna play under my xRECKONERx account from now on.