Mafia 110: Mafia in Hell, Michigan (Tied.)

[Ythan]

More like hell yes.

[Ythan]

I don't think the cop question is pertinent. I believe policy is to be used to choose between equally scummy targets. I haven't noticed any correlation between faction and lurking. I'm active to a fault.

[Ythan]

My experience with the members of this site is shallow but I will venture a guess. Mae.

[Ythan]

What study?

Really?

[Ythan]

However, I don't like that farside is avoiding the PR question... while it may not give us much to go on, anything is useful at this point.

Do you feel you needed to explain this?

[Ythan]

Don't worry, we snaked you.

[Ythan]

I would say its more about avoiding a simple question than it being specifically due to having an alt. Not answering questions is hardly ever a townish thing to do.

I don't like that you're portraying this incident as anti-town denial of information.

[Ythan]

Oh my God I love this game already.

Why did you say this?

[Ythan]

Richard, you weren't by chance hoping to influence any cops who may be in this game were you?

[Ythan]

You are pretty rude, mister! Asking a girl about her alt is the same as asking her about her age! Have some tact, please!

How does this differ significantly?

Also I swear her avatar just changed.

[Ythan]

Farside, why did you seem to seriously question a random vote?

Horrordude, why did you feel the need to explain that anything was better than nothing before voting?

Musher, I'm still holding on to that thing with you but no further questions for the moment.

Richard, why the question about cops and the post with the smiley?

[Ythan]

I wouldn't consider that hypocritical. I might do it myself.

[Ythan]

Molestar Gazer. Just me?

[Ythan]

For the sake of us getting out of the RVS, all players should post.

[Ythan]

Players should still post. Especially those I've questioned.

[Ythan]

If you think RVS is over does that mean you have suspicions?

[Ythan]

Can't wait.

[Ythan]

Pet peeve here, is there a reason you take the names out of the quote tags?

[Ythan]

Pet peeve here, is there a reason you take the names out of the quote tags?

I'm lazy.
Most everything I just copy and paste onto a note pad on my computer and then highlight the quote and click the quote button.
I've working on not doing that but i get lazy from time to time to take those few extra minutes to use the = sign and then do the "name" next to it.

Well it was pretty obvious who you were referring to so.

[Ythan]

Horrordude, why did you feel the need to explain that anything was better than nothing before voting?

I'm confused by the question... could you rephrase it please?

Why did you explain yourself thusly before voting?

Hi NS.

[Ythan]

Not where you explained your vote. Where you explained that it was better than nothing.

[Ythan]

Why the unvote? Something is better than nothing.

[Ythan]

Are you going to refer back to this later when you get caught in a lie?

[Ythan]

No, crypto. I'm not a proponent of lynch ALL liars either, don't worry.

Lowell, this isn't RVS. Why please.

[Ythan]

I won't forget it but pushing it further won't yield any more information.

[Ythan]

That doesn't even require commentary.

[Ythan]

Can we get a little insight into this play style of his?

[Ythan]

If policy lynches are never actually used they won't deter anything. It's clear that they're not used enough.

[Ythan]

I'm hoping to see everyone post before I vote.

[Ythan]

If it takes too long for everyone to post once we have a host of problems, the least of which is my lack of a vote. Trying to paint my desire to see one from each player as aiming for a mislynch is a

bit of a

stretch.

[Ythan]

You can't tell me you've never played a game with lowell???

Newish.

Who is scummy now? Why are they scummy? What can we do to find the scummy while we wait for everyone else to post? Why am I hyperventilating?

I asked my own questions of a few players. That's my version of this tactic. Waiting for answers on some of them too.

[Ythan]

He doesn't post anything of value, and only replies to things, in that intelligent way you know he do without showing any sign of actually looking for scum.

Yeah this isn't terribly reasonable an argument at this point.

[Ythan]

Don't share your town list. All it does is take pressure off of some players and make them a bigger target for night kills.

[Ythan]

Consensus as I have seen in my games is that safe lists are bad.

[Ythan]

Okay, what vibes from me are scummy?

Smiley in this posts reads to me as attempt to reduce the impact of the case indirectly.

[Ythan]

Consensus as I have seen in my games is that safe lists are bad.

There's a good bunch of players who don't care for that precaution.

Then do it and expect that much more pressure from me.

[Ythan]

Okay, what vibes from me are scummy?

Smiley in this posts reads to me as attempt to reduce the impact of the case indirectly.

Or maybe I just like smileys!

That particularly smiley, unless you closed your eyes and picked one at random, would see to indicate that you're trying to laugh it away.

[Ythan]

Let's do this.

[Ythan]

It will help me determine who is more concerned with keeping themselves alive than with the greater good of the town.

I call BS.

[Ythan]

It will help me determine who is more concerned with keeping themselves alive than with the greater good of the town.

I call BS.

Explain?

RQS questions passed off as being meant to test the answerers are in my experience and general estimation shifty. It's a simple way to explain away suspicion over suspicious questions. Playing town. And if you're telling the truth it's not a good plan anyway.

[Ythan]

Don't feel like hopping on that wagon just yet, I'd likely end up switching to another in short order.

[Ythan]

Farside, unless some compelling evidence causes me to reconsider I can accept at least for your own reasoning your meta on Lowell.

Dr. C, can you elaborate or provide some examples on Crypto?

JB, why that specific non-poster?

[Ythan]

I do have fun. I have no problem with jokes and silly remarks but think that they are often used to cover ulterior motives.

[Ythan]

I'm withholding my judgment on your analysis of Crypto, but the word you're looking for, contributing without actually contributing, is active lurking.

Why did you FoS Cirno but not Crypto?

[Ythan]

What's giving you those vibes?

[Ythan]

Players 4, 10, and 16 are on thin ice.

[Ythan]

I don't know about the other two but I'm surprised Ray hasn't posted yet. Then again, ongoing game meta would indicate that maybe he just isn't around at the moment.

[Ythan]

Musher, what do you think of farside?

What has either player said that made you ask that specific player what he thought of that specific other player?

[Ythan]

Now you post, right after I call out the players, including you, who hadn't yet? Good timing.

[Ythan]

I would certainly like to hear some sort of explanation for his not posting until NINE MINUTES after I made that post.

[Ythan]

THey have 10 and 9 posts, you have 14. That is pretty close.

[Ythan]

This is a game made of basic roles, isn't it? What if I say that I'm not a 10-Shot Iron 10-Shot Unlynchable GF?
jk.
I gues you don't want a claim, amirite?

...

What?

[Ythan]

Just because

you

see it that way is no reason to vote me and use it as your only reason...

That's actually a perfectly good reason for him and trying to attack not only his case but his vote in this way is scummy.

In all my time playing mafia, I've never seen anyone get something so wrong.

Pointless fluff.

[Ythan]

EBWOP:
@Whoever said I was on thin ice: Way to post inane fluff. Though, it doesn't really bother me at all.

Players 4, 10, and 16 are on thin ice.

Attacking a case on you that wasn't even ever made and then saying it doesn't even bother you. I believe that you are scum.

vote RichardGHP

[Ythan]

If I was scum, I would most definitely be concerned with the non-existent case. If you believe I'm scum, then good for you, but you're wrong.

You obviously did care enough to go after a case on you that didn't even exist. Saying you didn't care when you were done just to cover up was a mistake, it didn't make any sense.

[Ythan]

Point out where I go after the case, because I'm not seeing it tbqh.

I said "Way to post inane fluff." I hardly call that being concerned and going after the case.

No it's exactly the same thing. You attempted to discredit the case against you that didn't exist and then played it off as if you didn't care. You didn't even have any basis for discrediting it and so it seems pretty clear what's going on here.

[Ythan]

I wasn't questioning H Dude for explaining his vote, but for framing it as less than completely serious.

Also, no pressure about smilies in general. Pressure about what I read (present tense, still do) as trying to undermine the case on him without really addressing it.

[Ythan]

My bad miss.

[Ythan]

Saint, why unvote horror?

Seems simple enough.

[Ythan]

Town alone doesn't know the info if it's posted in the thread.

[Ythan]

Settled then!

[Ythan]

I was only indicating postless players actually. But yes.

[Ythan]

His two posts were pretty bad.

[Ythan]

Oh lawd here it comes.

[Ythan]

Why, out of curiosity?

Asshattery. He has yet to post content and when he chimed in we were well beyond the brush-off-criticism-with-a-joke stage.

his join date is within the past 30 days, isn't it reasonable to think he has no idea what the hell he should say?
When I first started playing mafia, my posts where highly similar to his, in that they had no content in them and consisted of dumb things.

Lynch out to straighten him out.

[Ythan]

FoS horrordude0215

[Ythan]

I'm concerned with the route you've taken regarding the earlier vote.

[Ythan]

Then one you're attacking for being based on a vibe.

[Ythan]

EBWOP: Never mind.

This mean we're clear?

[Ythan]

SK is a basic role.

[Ythan]

Why, out of curiosity?

Asshattery. He has yet to post content and when he chimed in we were well beyond the brush-off-criticism-with-a-joke stage.

his join date is within the past 30 days, isn't it reasonable to think he has no idea what the hell he should say?
When I first started playing mafia, my posts where highly similar to his, in that they had no content in them and consisted of dumb things.

Lynch out to straighten him out.

Or we can try actually looking for scum?

It's not as if he's the center of attention.

[Ythan]

And that's not an attack?

[Ythan]

Attack in this game tends to mean an attempt to break down an argument.

[Ythan]

No problem. Understand my FoS now?

[Ythan]

I think it's a bit early to close the case on him. He could very easily be scum.

[Ythan]

Specifically regarding what he has posted. I think it's too early to call it a newbie mistake.

[Ythan]

Five minutes after requested, mod is on the ball. One concern though.

vote RichardGHP

vote RichardGHP

WRP, if you're not new then you need to be lynched. Your self-meta and really all of 266 is sending off major red flags for me.

Musher, I don't like your scum wouldn't do that comment in 269 either.

WRP, the amount of posts is not what is making you look scummy.

GHP and WRP need to die. I will go with a lynch on either.

[Ythan]

Now that you've voted before everyone posted, tell me more about your attack on Richard. I know this can't be the only point.

And why is that?

The early serious votes tend to have this quality. I trust my vibes. As of such, that isn't a scumtell at all.

You don't say.

[Ythan]

As for the wiki strategy, or really any strategy, letting people know that you're just putting pressure on them usually invalidates your efforts.

[Ythan]

Is Cirno lurking?

[Ythan]

If you're town you're not good town. Lynch plz. Claim first if you want.

[Ythan]

Because you're going to die.

[Ythan]

Is anyone surprised? How is that even a tunnel. To the rest of the scum out there give us a challenge plz.

[Ythan]

It's definitively not what the word means. Get your facts straight for your next game.

[Ythan]

How about

the

definition.

http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php ... nel_Vision

It redirects.

Saying you're going to die, when you are, is not even remotely the same thing.

[Ythan]

I'm not crystal-clear town, don't set me up to die tonight.

[Ythan]

FOS: Ythan . . .

Pardon?

Uh... am I the only one who sees voting me based on me asking a question I thought was legitimate as profoundly fucking stupid? There is most definitely scum on my wagon.

My case isn't based on that at all actually. Good thing too considering this would just be more of you not actually answering my questions.

[Ythan]

I had previously misdefined the term "Tunnel Vision", and that is not scum-like.

It is when you use it to defend yourself* and don't come up with something new afterward.

*You weren't actually defending yourself you were attacking me.

[Ythan]

yay more attacking from scum and bitching which I agree doesn't strike me as fustrated townie.

To whom is this a reference?

Christ 13 pages in a day and a half? I'll probably just end up supporting whatever wagon is leading. Give me some time.

They tell me you're just awful so I don't know how to read this. If they're not much exaggerating I could see myself supporting a policy lynch on you if we run out of suspects.

[Ythan]

...

[Ythan]

Yes it is.

Explain to me on what fucking planet is misdefining a word a scumtell.

Misdefining the word does not in any way excuse the argument you were attempting to make. If misunderstanding the definition of a word is enough to send you off on that tangent then you were just trying to use wikitells instead of building a case which is scummy.

[Ythan]

It looks like we finally have a post from each player. Iso time.

[Ythan]

Ace5995 has confirmed.

5993 actually, but good try :p Just an "I am here" post, but I will read-through and post stuff later today.

Lied.

Unvote. Vote: Cirno.

Can you explain the context of this joke vote?

trying not to say much incase he gives away information he doesn't want to

How would this technique benefit scum?

How would it not?

FOS: Ythan . . .

What was this about?

@Everyone: If you are a cop with a guilty on Day 1, do you out yourself and risk getting NK'd or do you wait until you have minimum risk of being killed?

Not a very good question. No, I'd rather have a higher chance of being NKed.

Make this make sense.

why the wait? Haven't enough people posted? If everyone posts, will it increase the likelihood that you'll pick scum to target?

Or are you looking for the most viable target for a mislynch?

This wasn't explained satisfactorily.

Hmmm...I still want to say I see Richard as (bad) town. None of his mistakes seem major,

but subsequent.

What does this mean?

Vote: Crypto.

Reason: General scummy state of play.

Explain yourself.

vote: richard

What reasoning that you had for this holds up now?

Okay, what vibes from me are scummy?

Smiley in this posts reads to me as attempt to reduce the impact of the case indirectly.

Or maybe I just like smileys!

Hanging onto this.

Sorta... I would've probably done the same thing if I were in your shoes, now that I know what your talking about lol

Despite the fact that you didn't know what I meant by attack you were still doing it so hanging onto this.

jesus didn't realize this was page 5. haven't read. I'll go back and find reasons ace is scummy or die trying.

On the one hand this is ridiculous. On the other hand you never followed through.

Christ 13 pages in a day and a half? I'll probably just end up supporting whatever wagon is leading.

Give me some time.

Some more time? I'm typing up this whole post in under half an hour I think. We'll see just how long when I'm done.

Doubt he is scum, scum wouldn't be stupid enough to post something like that surely.

Explain.

This is moving really fast. I will reread at some point after I'm done with my homework.

And when will you post?

okay, wtf.
12 pages and I haven't even gotten to post yet!

Now's your chance.

It will help me determine who is more concerned with keeping themselves alive than with the greater good of the town.

I call BS.

Explain?

Painting potentially anti-town question as testing those who answer. I don't buy it.

Just because

you

see it that way is no reason to vote me and use it as your only reason...
In all my time playing mafia, I've never seen anyone get something so wrong.

Touchy. Farside seeing things her way is plenty reason for her to cast her vote that way. She even justified it. Then the entire thing from posts 11-13 in your iso. And after that you crash and burn. And then you OMGUS and call me a tunneler. And then you said you'd claim on request and didn't. And then you try to simplify the case on you to just your misdefinition and misapplication of tunnel vision. This is why I'm voting for you.

Rikenslope finds himself at odds ater waking up to read 7 pages of game already. I will re-read and post something more significant in a few hours.

How many is a few?

voet; jbenier

cos ur not inno

Yeah...

And why?

This first post from WRP came nine minutes after I called him out. Then he posts weird shit.

[Ythan]

Not providing content would be active lurking; active lurking is a very popular scum tell. Scum are more likely to win if they convey a pro-town attitude. There's really nothing to gain from avoiding in-depth content; I've seen scum belt it out all the time.

So it's not scummy because it's scummy?

<--------------------

Watcher

Everybody unvote now. kthxbai.

Is that so.

Everyone pay attention to the people going after SK. I think it's a stretch to follow it as hard as they are. I may be wrong or it may be scummy.

[Ythan]

It depends on the player.

How well do you know the players in this game?

[Ythan]

How safe a fake claim is watcher for scum?

[Ythan]

Mildly creative. Any way we can test if he's legit? If not I am not inclined to remove my vote.

[Ythan]

How is it role fishing when he's already claimed?

[Ythan]

Ythan, why is it a stretch that people are going after me?

Case seems to be based entirely on your vote changes, which seemed perfectly reasonable to me in context when you made them and still do now.

[Ythan]

Your claim puts a dent in your scummy play but not a big one for me.

[Ythan]

http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php ... ormal_Game

*A normal game does not have to have any other roles other than Mafia and Townies. If it includes other roles, they should mostly be considered standard, such as Cop, Doctor, Vigilante, Roleblocker, Mason, Traitor, Serial Killer.
*Other (new or otherwise) roles can be included. However, there should be no more than 1-2 of these, and they should be based around the usual game mechanics: Killing, Protecting, Investigating, Voting.

[Ythan]

Do you happen to recall who ran that game? brb checking mod meta

[Ythan]

Can't find any Neto games in New York. Checking your link.

[Ythan]

I can not abide the thought of Dick still in the game at lylo.

[Ythan]

Not a very good question. No, I'd rather have a higher chance of being NKed.

Make this make sense.

why the wait? Haven't enough people posted? If everyone posts, will it increase the likelihood that you'll pick scum to target?

Or are you looking for the most viable target for a mislynch?

This wasn't explained satisfactorily.

Hmmm...I still want to say I see Richard as (bad) town. None of his mistakes seem major,

but subsequent.

What does this mean?

unvote
vote DedicatedScribe
HoS RichardGHP

Given the flimliest of excuses I will move my vote back.

[Ythan]

How is it perfectly reasonable to thy person who questions everything?
(and yes I mean you ythan)

I don't get what you're trying to do here. It made and makes sense to me.

Watcher is a normal role. I don't like how Ythan's pushing this lynch.

What part of it don't you like, the unvote?

An undisclosed player in this game has PMmed me and asked about the range of roles in this game.

Wasn't me. Curious who though.

Just something reading the wiki doesn't really give a great list on what is normal.

I always assumed it was the roles listed as basic in this article.
http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Roles

y r u so skumy

I'm scummy because I temporarily took my vote off of a claimed PR? Are you trying to get me lynched?

Vote: Crypto

OMGUS?

From the top. I can't believe I have to pay attention to this already:

They had me convinced I wouldn't be seeing such a constructive post from you.

[Ythan]

Some mods require votes to be at the start of a new line, maybe we could do that?

[Ythan]

And is it his attack on you?

[Ythan]

You're questioning how they made sense to me? There was nothing that made them not make sense.

[Ythan]

I don't mind, the mod posts are the best part of this game. Tim Curry as Wadsworth with the voice of Morgan Freeman.

[Ythan]

The butler.

[Ythan]

There are plenty of things in this game I didn't comment on. Don't get worked up over the fact that I didn't agree with one of your reads.

[Ythan]

suggest Scribe in the library with the candlestick

[Ythan]

I sure do, and I sure hope you're able to defend yourself while you're gone.

[Ythan]

Why?

[Ythan]

I don't wish to indicate that Beater gives me any town reads whatsoever BUT that wagon has the most people on it and I'm hoping to get DS lynched today because I do get a scum read on him so here goes.

What was Beater done that was scummy?

[Ythan]

Not a very good question. No, I'd rather have a higher chance of being NKed.

Make this make sense.

why the wait? Haven't enough people posted? If everyone posts, will it increase the likelihood that you'll pick scum to target?

Or are you looking for the most viable target for a mislynch?

This wasn't explained satisfactorily.

Hmmm...I still want to say I see Richard as (bad) town. None of his mistakes seem major,

but subsequent.

What does this mean?

unvote
vote DedicatedScribe
HoS RichardGHP

Given the flimliest of excuses I will move my vote back.

[Ythan]

After or I wouldn't have moved my vote.

I do remember the post that I made, NS.

[Ythan]

I get a scummier read on DS.

I don't see any indication that DS and Beater are scum together besides their individual tells.

Why did I ask what question? Why did I ask the Beater wagon what was scummy about him?

[Ythan]

I don't wish to indicate that Beater gives me any town reads whatsoever BUT that wagon has the most people on it and I'm hoping to get DS lynched today because I do get a scum read on him so here goes.

[Ythan]

What's the deal with Ray and new Ray?

[Ythan]

You could answer the two that were actually questions and not

just

copies.

[Ythan]

Thanks SK! Lowell, you can make your own page.

[Ythan]

Thanks Neto. What I'd really like for my birthday is at least one post from each player.

[Ythan]

It's not as if I want to spam but it would certainly be rude not to post. Thanks, NS!

[Ythan]

Thanks Not Ray.

Lowell, you might also want to have your user:name page redirect to your name page, looks neater imo.

[Ythan]

And if I'm scum, wouldn't I want to go for something more obvious like cop or doctor? Without going too far into WIFOM, that argument is just ridiculous.

That is perfectly far into WIFOM.

[Ythan]

Flimsiest of excuses obtained!

unvote vote RichardGHP

[Ythan]

If you don't have anything else to contribute don't even bother posting.

[Ythan]

If you're not even reading the thread you should be lynched regardless.

[Ythan]

Ray do you think scum was given a list of possible safe claims...

This is reaching.

[Ythan]

It's my understanding that it's not a particularly common normal role.

[Ythan]

Do you think that vote's going to snap him out of flaking or something?

[Ythan]

Pretty sure I said not particularly common. Your second line is completely pointless. Telling me that you're not lying hasn't been working and I don't see why you're keeping it up.

[Ythan]

"Why are you trying to lynch a Town PR?"
What kind of defence is this?

Well if you can think of a better one, please share it with me.

It's your job to defend yourself. Don't ask us to exhaust every possibility before lynching you.

[Ythan]

Riddick, are you new to the site? You're obviously not new to the game. Also I'm assuming your daykill was a joke?

Mole, I'm not using the claim a reason to vote him. I have a host of reasons to vote him. I'm not allowing the dubious claim to get in my way.

Also rethinking my dismissal of SK as wishy washy.

[Ythan]

That is, dismissal of the case that SK is wishy washy.

[Ythan]

Between two scummy players, one of whom has a claimed a PR, I'd rather kill the other and let the scum use a NK on the claimer if he's real.

[Ythan]

I'm thinking about which scummy unclaimed player I want to move it to.

[Ythan]

Vote count please?

[Ythan]

The problem is that I have to weigh two possibilities. Lynch Rich or someone else. If Rich is scum as seems more than 50% likely to me, a lynch is good. We hit scum, we don't have to worry about WIFOM when he's alive tomorrow. If he's not, we kill a somewhat useful PR. If we lynch someone else and Rich is scum then there's that WIFOM when he survives, even if we do hit another scum player (which doesn't seem overtly likely to me at the moment). If he's town we keep the PR. Nobody else seems terrible guilty to me right now.

[Ythan]

I'd much rather lynch someone who is scummy and claimed a moderately powerful PR than someone who isn't and claimed VT.

[Ythan]

I'd much rather lynch someone who is scummy and claimed a moderately powerful PR than someone who isn't and claimed VT.

So are you saying that you don't find WRP scummy?

Not really. A bit earlier, but I don't have a necessarily scummy read on him at the moment.

If I'm lynched/NK'd and flip town, look at those who were adament about their vote, even after the claim. Lynch

them

.

I think the town can do perfectly well without your advice.

Something tells me that Riddick's daykill was a test on WRP. and needless to say, he failed miserably.

Vote: WRP_Beater

This reads as following town. Since you are not a claimed PR and are not coming off very townishly at any point in the game

unvote vote horrordude0215

Vote: WR_Beater

You just jumped on the wagon of a player you haven't said anything about all game. I want to move my vote back already.

[Ythan]

Ctrl+ F reveals no mention of this guy all game.

Exactly what I did!

[Ythan]

No I mean high five.

[Ythan]

1. SaintKerrigan
4. WRP_Beater
6. RichardGHP

9. horrordude0215

Dude today, reevaluate cases on Kerrigan, Beater, and Richard tomorrow?

[Ythan]

Point of interest, Kerrigan, Dude, and Richard are all on the Beater wagon.

[Ythan]

Did Farside just claim VT or just town?

[Ythan]

You should stop talking.

[Ythan]

When I look at a player with no questionable posts next to one with a number of questionable posts, even if they were all explained, what do you think I'm thinking?

[Ythan]

Short blurb from each player regarding why their vote is where it is?

[Ythan]

There was and is never anything weird about me at any time. Also in response to your questions I've moved on to bigger and better things than your wagon in the time you've been got. Also congrats to Rikenslope.

[Ythan]

Well I like it. I feel it suits the game even if I'm not an SK.

[Ythan]

A PR with a wagon does not claim if they are in their right mind. A PR at L-1 does.

[Ythan]

Horror is so scummy I'm not even going to question that post.

[Ythan]

I need to review Crypto. Seems to be catching a lot of attention.

[Ythan]

Nothing has happened since my last post to change my decision on Dude.

[Ythan]

Claiming at L-5 is incorrect. Also I don't want you thinking you're in the clear. In all likelihood you are going to die tomorrow.

[Ythan]

I was the one who brought up the smiley, why not FoS me instead?

[Ythan]

No fighting on whether to lynch Dude or Rich. We obviously lynch both. Just pick one for today and we do the other tomorrow.

Since no one bothered to do this last time, I'll ask again:

And then SK D3.

[Ythan]

A lot presumptuous.

[Ythan]

Am I incorrect in finding that requests for replacement tend toward scum?

[Ythan]

Shouldn't you be distancing?

[Ythan]

Deadline means no lynch, remember.

[Ythan]

I think they're just flakes. By all means analyze what posts they have made but asking for more content is secondary to asking to stop flaking.

[Ythan]

Dude, Rich, and Kerrigan or Beater. Maybe both, I don't know how many there are.

[Ythan]

Their role PMs said so.

Serious answer, I'll knock something together in a bit.

[Ythan]

Horror is my biggest read, the others have less evidence and more gut, so let's look at him for the moment and flesh out the cases on the others when he's dead. If it's not the least bit inconvenient iso me and look at posts 34, 36, 56, the bit of 92 about him, the bit of 105 about him, and the bit of 142 about him. It adds up. If you would like me to explain or elaborate on any little thing then by all means ask.

[Ythan]

Am I incorrect in finding that requests for replacement tend toward scum?

I think they're just flakes. By all means analyze what posts they have made but asking for more content is secondary to asking to stop flaking.

Seriously what's the difference between those who asked for replacement and the flakers who will need to be replaced (most likely)

I haven't noticed a correlation between flaking and alignment.

[Ythan]

Check out 696.

[Ythan]

I reiterated because someone asked and your explanations were insufficient. Your new OMGUS-flavored ones are even worse. Can we lynch obvscum already?

[Ythan]

We don't need to explain it to you. You know your role.

[Ythan]

That's a blatant lie scum.

[Ythan]

Check out 696.

[Ythan]

And I referred you back to where I already covered that ages ago.

[Ythan]

You're honestly going to FoS me for that and then talk about lynching me tomorrow when it's your first mention of any suspicion against me? Now that is suspect.

[Ythan]

Dude I don't care what you think. You're scum. I've made my point and I'm not going to keep humoring you. If anyone who isn't obvscum has any questions

about

Dude then I'll answer.

[Ythan]

I disagree.

[Ythan]

Dude I don't care what you think. You're scum. I've made my point and I'm not going to keep humoring you. If anyone who isn't obvscum has any questions

about

Dude then I'll answer.

Dude, tunnel less why don't you?

Dude, learn what terms mean before you use them.

[Ythan]

Dude I don't care what you think. You're scum. I've made my point and I'm not going to keep humoring you. If anyone who isn't obvscum has any questions

about

Dude then I'll answer.

Dude, tunnel less why don't you?

Dude, learn what terms mean before you use them.

http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php ... nel_vision

You sound pretty convinced to me, don't you think?

Yes because you're scum. If you want to display an understanding of the term by actually explaining how my play is tunneling then I'd pay to see it. Otherwise you're obvious cornered scum spitting out wiki tells.

[Ythan]

I've got a number of suspects. You're the one we're lynching today. Why would I start pushing another wagon right now? Your tenuous link is insufficient.

[Ythan]

So let's lynch one of the kids.

[Ythan]

NS don't tell me you're buying Dude's stretch of a tunneling accusation. You said in that same post that you agreed with my

other suspicions

.

[Ythan]

I'd like to disagree with that. I really hope that people get on and see how little sense all of your arguments make and that you are EXTREMELY obv. scum.

Unvote, vote Ythan

And if you call it OMGUS, I will have to kill you.

It is OMGUS just like every other thing you post.

[Ythan]

"NO U"

Die in a fire please.

[Ythan]

OMGUS does not only apply to votes. It also applies to flimsy attacks. And your flimsy attack on me is obvious OMGUS but you can't admit that because you're lying scum. You won't have to keep what is obviously a stressful charade up anymore if you get lynched so how about a self-vote? Added benefit of actually having it on someone scummy.

[Ythan]

Honestly everyone just read his posts and move your vote to him when you stop laughing.

[Ythan]

You have no case on me except that I'm attacking you.

Equals.

OMGUS.

[Ythan]

EBWOP

I shouldn't have referred to that as a case. You have no reason to be voting me except...

[Ythan]

Wow.

[Ythan]

We can do NS tomorrow if you want. I'm not going through another day phase of Dude's inane blithering.

[Ythan]

Thanks, I was just looking back for a count. You three who aren't voting: Dude, now.

[Ythan]

I'm bickering. He's cornered OMGUS angry scum.

[Ythan]

Yes everyone notice his vote and the post in which he moved it.

[Ythan]

Defending and actually rebutting are entirely different things as evidenced by your posts. You're just shouting at my arguments and hoping you get out of your L-3.

[Ythan]

Yawn. I'm not going to keep repeating myself for your benefit when you're the one dying and you're only asking so you can drag it out. If Dude isn't dead by the time I get back I am going to be extremely disappointed in you guys.

[Ythan]

Anyone not voting for Dude, explain to me how a single bit of his argument holds up.

[Ythan]

What you call invalid is perfectly valid. I'll go look up that numbered post to simplify the other attack for you.

[Ythan]

Do you mean my post 142 in iso? He was just following a wagon with momentum without contributing anything of his own.

[Ythan]

Dude, if all you're going to do is talk about how stupid everyone is just replace out so we can stop listening to you post inane bullshit for the next few hours before your lynch.

Scribe, If all you're going to do is say you're not convinced and tell me to do more you're going to stay disappointed. If you have any actual questions that's a different story but don't just try to ride other players to the finish line.