Mafia 113: Mafia in Mendo ~ Game Over

[Chronopie]

Hey guys, I'm sirdan's replacement.

finishing my reading and posting thought soon.

[Chronopie]

Dram seems fluffier than normal.

Jack seems town to me. He makes some good points. But the 'losing halfway through day 2' post seems like a day-action PR hint. And losing during D2 wasn't referenced in OP.

CCA's iso is a little short. but feels like lurker/town.

MPR feels town.

Cmar is a little fluffy, and posting picture, but seems town.

Diacria's iso is content lite, almost active lurking.

Nico makes some good posts, feels town.

GiD/chnorek GiD was giving me scummy vibes, and chnorek is relatively new to the game, although gives slightly scummy vibes too. What's with the 'just passing by' comment?

dont be sure to state your opinion on mpr.

Not sure what this is meant to mean.

Boberz's behaviour is different from the game we were in together, (ongoing - both dead). Feels town though.

RichardGHP although he's posted alot, has been fairly content lite aswell. Not so much a diacria though. also

Then allow me to be the first: I want to see your thoughts.

How is this guy still here?

Fine, I'll get a wall of text up this afternoon, I hope.

This never happened.

Also, please explain your second statement.

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diacria

Richard, Dram, Chnorek

Everyone else

Unvote, Vote: Diacria

[Chronopie]

true, but would have helped everyone to get a better read at that time.

[Chronopie]

@Possible Vig: Hit scum tonight
@Possible SK: Hit scum tonight

fix'd

[Chronopie]

Sorry guys, been a hectic week, haven't been devoting my usual attention to my games.

On richard's hammer: Wow, just wow. You earned some big scum points. A claim, and discussion thereof, would give us further insights as to the scum players in this game.

CCARaven was pretty scummy looking, near the end. But still. Always give people time to claim. Mafia 101.

[Chronopie]

Agreed, big scum points allocated to richard.

[Chronopie]

So you want Jack vigged?

[Chronopie]

Popcorn?

Who's first.

[Chronopie]

What rule did we miss MPR?

And whats the end of that sentence say Dram?

[Chronopie]

Player List

# chnorek

#

Chronopie

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dramonic
# boberz
# Nicodemus (1) MPR

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MehPlusRawr
# CryMeARiver

So who does everyone think should start?

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Oh right, that rule, thought you were talking about claiming, and I'd missed it.

[Chronopie]

That's 5/7 agreeing to massclaim, go ahead.

[Chronopie]

Ditto Vanilla.

Chnorek.

[Chronopie]

Well I'm guessing that one of the 'Vigs' is either SK or Mafia.

No-one is taking claim for the poison either...

I'd believe the Doc claim. Having a BP makes sense considering the number of killing roles, although could be an NK-immune GF.

and one of the VTs is probably mafia.

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I say we try for the fake-vig. wcs: neither of them is actually a vig, but an SK and a Maf.

[Chronopie]

You have a point.

I would have commented on the lack of a cop, but we had tracker and gunsmith, while Mafia had a watcher.

[Chronopie]

He was shot. And we have 2 claimed vigs...

Proof

[Chronopie]

Also, I'm not an SK claiming Vanilla. I can do the maths, and that would be a loss. /truth

I'm a vanilla claiming Vanilla. /wifom

[Chronopie]

Shot and castrated. still

Proof

.

Why the doc in particular?

[Chronopie]

If he's town and the Mafia will NK him anyway, why lynch him and give the Mafia a shot at another townie?

[Chronopie]

Vote: Chnorek

If he flips town, I'm looking back at dram's iso for scumminess.

[Chronopie]

Been running the numbers.

If we mislynch based on the first of the above, and if the poisoner is Mafia and hits town, we Endgame ftl.

Assuming no SK:

4:3
Lynch 3:3

ENDGAME

or we could have some luck and have a 3:2 night.

Vig + NK 2:1

lylo

If its a 5:2 split, no SK, poisoner is Mafia:

5:2
Lynch 4:2
Poison 3:2

NK 2:2
Vig Kill 2:1

Lylo

Best case scenario, 5:2 split: M.Doc + Poisoner (Fake Vig) 4:0

win

[Chronopie]

Huh, should really use Preview once in a while. all I have to say is [wifom] I'm not a Mafioso of any description [/wifom]

[Chronopie]

The possibility exists that there is no poisoner, but rather it's an action of the Scum group as a whole.

[Chronopie]

Dram thinks it was a 3 man team, so 2 alive. Judging by the above statements.

Protecting Bv would have made the doc look xxl scummy. No matter which alignment the doc is, it would have been a bad choice.

[Chronopie]

and I'll know not to trust Dram for late-game setup analysis again.

[Chronopie]

Well Nico hammered, so now we wait on Ythil.

If Chnorek doesn't die tonight, and the game continues (i.e. dram scum), do we assume Mafia doc?

[Chronopie]

Maybe Chnorek is a Mafia poisoner, as opposed to doc? maybe even with a fakeclaim: "You know there is no doc in this game."

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If it's really all over, I can speculate all I want, and no one needs to shout "Wifom"

[Chronopie]

Well if you are Neutral Joat, and Dram isn't scum, then its over anyway. Right? so I can Wifom all I want.

And why wouldn't a mod say: there are no docs?

after all, Ythill did say that the pm that Chnorek 'quoted' was either

the town doc flavor line, the mafia doc flavor line, or the doc flavor line given to him for the purpose of fake-claiming.

[Chronopie]

Shit, 4 scum,

with

poison day kill. Not quite balanced.

OTOH I can still trust dram's endgame numbers.

[Chronopie]

If we'd gone with claimed-doc lynch: When Chnorek had flipped scum, the % chance of Dram being scum -> 0. I would (almost) blindly follow the owl at that point.

and a dram, chrono vs. CMAR endgame would have had CMAR lynched quickly. (or so I'd like to think)

[Chronopie]

So Dram, if said 3 man lylo had occurred, would you have tried lynch me or CMAR.

CMAR, same question, me or Dram?