Riddle Me This! NY111 - mafia dead - Town wins!

[don_johnson]

46 pages may take me a bit. anyways, hello. a few familiar faces but i don't think i've played with many of you before. taking finals today and will attempt to look this over after. if anyone has pertinent questions or page references of importance please let me know. i hate reading if i don't have to.

[don_johnson]

vote: mr. chaos

after five pages thats what i'm thinking. tsq does a lot of "circular" discussion, not sure why he focuses on some players and not on others when alot of similar behaviors are being exhibited. no. i'm not fleshing this theory out. i don't do big cases and i'm not sure that this is where my vote will stay, but if i had to vote based on the rvs my vote would be tsq or richardghp.

[don_johnson]

does my vote bother you?

tbh, i am not sure i will make it through everything in a timely fashion. i have several "catch up" strategies and i would be lying if i said this one was among the more popular. i think it drew the same reaction last time. however, i personally think the rvs is a great place to find scum.

i'm going to skim and see what i come up with. if the first five pages are indicative of the rest of the game, then it appears to me that there is a lot of fluff to sift through. i'd rather look at voting records, important moments, and so on. if there is any particular meaningful happenings please direct me to them via page numbers(i.e. claims, reactions, stellar cases, etc.)

i second the motion for vas' to explain.

[don_johnson]

if there's much more info, why are you wasting time defending yourself against such an obvious temporary vote? shouldn't you be presenting a case or something?

[don_johnson]

sorry guys. avoiding a prod here, but this game has the lowest priority for me. i do plan on contributing but time has been slipping away. be back soon.

[don_johnson]

sorry fonz. but theres alot of thread to read and unfirtunately at this point i'm leaning towards actually reading it as opposed to skimming. i see where the suspicion is going today and i'm not sure i agree with it. i have some correlating to do.

[don_johnson]

posting to avoid prods is not a scumtell. this thread is uber long. if you'd rather i replace out then i will. i have/had other games taking presidence, i graduated last week and am currently job seeking and studying for my state exam. i have planned on getting into this thread, but i haven't found a large enough chunk of time. sorry.

[don_johnson]

bussing cannot be "premature". it is, by definition, "the attacking of ones scum partner". timing is irrelevant. anyhoo. i don't know what to make of the amished scumtell without links and/or proof, but for now:

unvote, vote: cove

evening out the bandwagons can only lead to good things. i should be back in this with analysis soon.

[don_johnson]

fonz: i'm getting there. i have a talent show and work today. this will be a priority for the weekend. if nacho and amished are town then we are in good hands, but i second 1269. there's plenty of time til deadline.

[don_johnson]

fonz: i'm getting there. i have a talent show and work today. this will be a priority for the weekend.

if nacho and amished are town then we are in good hands

, but i second 1269. there's plenty of time til deadline.

??? There's some logical steps continuing down this road but could you clarify what you meant by the bolded?

it means i like both of you and trust you as town.

i hope you

fuckers

realize i don't read at night. whateverz...

[don_johnson]

i don't remember anything by dahill. is he a replacement? anyway, continuing to read.

[don_johnson]

^^ agreed here. still catching up. trying to sort through replacements.

[don_johnson]

^^ agreed here. still catching up. trying to sort through replacements.

what do you agree with?

scumlist in your following post, tia.

i agree with the idea that its stupid to lynch someone whose claimed tracker on the day before the night with which he can use his ability. do not have a scumlist yet. from yesterdays proceedings i felt that fonz was a bit scummy for focusing on a vacant player slot instead of participating in the major wagons. but i haven't read the entire thread, your defense of dahill is wifom. you are assuming that everyone who posts is being honest and sincere. if thats how you approach the game then you are not a "hell good player".

[don_johnson]

scumdon is much better than that. wifoming the nk to save your scumbuddy isn't going to help you. if you'll be patient, you'll get my analysis. reading during night phase is a waste of time. this thread is uber long with many replacements. not an easy read and i am currently in several games. seems like you'd rather lynch anyone than dahill.

[don_johnson]

anon: are you threatening me? you say dahills posts are sincere, but you're reasoning is due to their "content". "content" can easily be falsified. i don't know if dahills posts are sincere or not. that knowledge would require that i read through the game as i don't believe i've played with them before.

scot: yes, i called anon scum. understand that i am not caught up. i am simply going by what i am seeing. anon is voting a claimed tracker on the night his ability would be usable. his other main suspect is a guy who isn't caught up.

its not my fault that noone is posting actual cases.

[don_johnson]

yos:

evening out the bandwagons can only lead to good things.

very sound and logical reasoning for a vote from someone who has not read the thread and is being pressured to contribute. you guys are lucky i'm even gonna read this monstrosity. have you played with amished before? i have. nacho too.

[don_johnson]

alright. 932 is over. town win. now i can focus a bit here. sorry for the delay.

[don_johnson]

iso of ksun is easy.

jumped off the dahill wagon with no real reasoning.

zoraster iso reveals an attempt to connect scot to vasudeva. vote goes to scot. vas more likely scum imo. nice way to look back and say "i knew one of them was scummy!"

richard votes are bad according to iso 6. zor spends time lamenting on the richard "mislynch", again, setting up scot to take the blame for the townrichard flip.

iso 15 is horrible richardvote reasoning. ghp is more liikely town.

iso 17 is a poor vote on anon, again not taking responsibility for the lynch.

iso 20 could be a bus. kind of "oh well, i've been called out on all my town wagons, may as well call it as i know it!", leaves the vote on as well. kind of like "now i'm going to lurk. if the lynch swings to vas i come out smelling like roses."

FoS: vas

bear with me. this thread is obnoxoiusly long at this point.

[don_johnson]

paltryexcuse:

iso 2 defends dahill.

ignores the izzy wagon.

really fence sits with his support of the vas wagon. criticizes and supports it at the same time.

mipe is most likely town according to pe's own "scum tactics".

iso 6. scum to scum chat? "get in the game"

@VasudeVa: There is no 'proof' in mafia games beyond night actions (and those can be lied about as well). For example, the case on mipe isn't foolproof, it's based on anti-town bandwagon-y behaviour and then the sudden change in attitude once he's being pressure. I think he's scum, but 'proof' will never be there.

mipe is town, but he's playing poorly so i'm going to use that as my cover for being on his wagon. if you'd like, you could do it too.

another vas vote camped by known scum. 11 days, was this including a night phase?

votes inhim weak, unvotes to leave game.

i'm probably starting to tunnel on vasudeva here. but i think that's okay.

vote: vasudeva

[don_johnson]

i don't see huge town cred in cutting and pasting votecounts, but whateverz. back to the iso board...

[don_johnson]

iso analysis tonight or in the morning. i need to cross reference the replacements and what not. lynching an absentee isn't optimal, but the game is stalling. i know people have been waiting on me, but i'm not the only person in need of more content.

[don_johnson]

dj votes are never happy. now that this fiasco is over i can drop some anal.

has anyone posted a case on iam? just asking...

[don_johnson]

okay. ksun vote certainly reads like a bus. for someone so concerned with players who need to post, iam's last two posts are vacuous and fluffy.

mod: are we getting a replacement for iam?

in any case, if you guys are going to push an either/or fallacy of don or iam, then you know where my vote will go.

inhim next.

[don_johnson]

sorry guys. had an unexpected v/la since friday. start my new hob early tomorrow, so i'll continue here tomorrow night. that's quite a generous modkill. need to rethink with the flip here.

[don_johnson]

i can support a massclaim. it would certainly help trim the fat here and make the rereading and such less laborious and time consuming.

[don_johnson]

actually, now he's at L-2

unvote, vote: mr. chaos

i have to agree with scot on vas, but we need to get moving.

that's L-1. claim time.

[don_johnson]

hm. farside never updated the votecount. here's hopin...

[don_johnson]

no. it hasn't. your vote was in quotes.

[don_johnson]

interesting...

guessing that's claim time then.

[don_johnson]

some sort of lynch scene would be nice.

[don_johnson]

Why haven't we won yet? D:

because you're still alive.

[don_johnson]

is it just us three?

[don_johnson]

i am not the odd night tracker and i didn't protect richard. unless someone else did i don't see any reason for a godfather to be moving about at night.

[don_johnson]

interesting tack.

you done claimed my role. apparently i investigated shanba night 2. last night was amished and he's innocent. nice touch with the roleblock though.

vote: yos

not sure why you'd tangle in a 1 v. 1 here, but i'm guessing you had no idea you'd be claiming my role and were hoping to pass it off with bullshit when i flipped vanilla. i breadcrumbed a little, but i guess noone picked it up. anyhoo. got us a scum.

[don_johnson]

i say "apparently", because i replaced in after that decision was made. my biggest issue is yos locking into a 1 v. 1. it makes me uneasy in that scum must have numbers left as well as some oddball role that can help bolster yos' "mistake". in any case,

v/la until july 8.

not sure where this is going, but i don't see a scenario which greatly benefits scum here regardless of the outcome.

[don_johnson]

i didn't read a single page. null tell as i've done it as town as well, but when i replaced in the scum were already behind the eight ball. fun playing with everyone though. town really pulled together nicely.