NY129-Mafia on Werewolf Island! (Game Over)

[jindori]

hmmm i think i will wait to more people post till i vote don't want to rush things.

[jindori]

?????? ok then i'm new at this so
vote nero cain

[jindori]

vote nero cain

sorry didn't bold it before.

[jindori]

Whats omgus???? lol this is way diffrent from pokemon onlines mafia uselly the lyncher gets lynched. We have plenty of time to vote 3 weeks so votes change anyway.

[jindori]

REPEATING SOMEONE IS SCUM WITH NO EVIDENCE SUPPORTING YOUR CLAIMS IS NOT A VERY MARKETABLE METHOD. STOP HATIN ON MUH CAPS LAWKS.

PLUS I ONLY EDITTED TWO WORDS AND THE SENTENCE STILL MAKES SENSE SO YOU FAIL.

You want evidence? I'll give you evidence. Just wait until everybody chimes in with whether they see it or not. Nothing to do with your pitiful attempt at copying Fate, by the way.

The word "but" implies a contradiction, which is lacking in the sentence, so it doesn't make sense. So sorry.

I didn't put "but" in the sentence, you did. My edit was putting in the words, "I'm not" and it still makes sense. You were saying my logic was bad. In the edit it reads that my logic is bad "but" you're mafia anyway.

Reasons why you're mafia:
1. OMGUS reaction to my vote on you.
2. Over defending yourself.
3. Trying to start a lynch wagon without presenting reasons of your own.

My original vote for you came from me goofing around with Kise, but now I really do believe your scum.

Better luck next time.

C worl i don't mean to be mean but you did similer things your self
1. you started a lynch wagon with out presenting a valid reason
2. you defended youself in a diffrent way you blamed overs to try and make yourself look innocent.
3. Also some of you logic doesn't make sence to me(maybe cause i am new) i looked the word up omgus and it's just a reaction it even says it happens alot in the first round i still don't understand how it is scummy. But now i geuss i have a reason to vote.
4. You draw attention to yourself so your most likely to get voted.

unvote nero cain vote c-worl

[jindori]

ok i get your points but the last one this is the start of the first round. no one has any evidence yet. I am not really sure who to vote yet so i'll keep my vote on you untill something changes.

[jindori]

Aghh this is so confusing my brain hurts lol. There's three scenerios in my mind right now your both villy fighting each other,one of you is scum, your both scum from diffrent factions. I don't know which one is right.

[jindori]

i been ninjaed 5 times so i went on a coffee break so i can get hypo.

[jindori]

yo gorrilla i see your on lol how are you.

[jindori]

and no reply sadface.

[jindori]

nero cain truthelly i voted you because i didn't know who to vote. When you voted me i finnally got a reason to vote some one i didn't know it was scum tactics lol.

[jindori]

i am thinking of jumping on the pine ban wagon but it strikes me as odd how fast the pine ban wagon built up votes so fast seems like some team work was involved maybe from the other scum.

[jindori]

unvote c worl vote pine
i geuss i get rid of scum anway.

[jindori]

unvote c worl vote pine

why doesn't the bold butten work all the time it fraustrates me.

[jindori]

@conspiracy yeh on pokemon it way diffrent than this through it's mafia on speed. Since each phase last 30 secounds so you have to think fast and rely on instinct also you have start with the night phase. Anyone one can talk and during the night phase to. ussally inspector will scream out i am inspector and bg and roleblocker will pm him and they will work togther. The game revolves around the vital roles. Even through the rules are similer the diffrence between doing it real time and through post have left me a bit confused. tactics that our townie seem like scum and vice versa it has left me more confused than a noob.

[jindori]

actually i'm on the pine ban wagon now aghh but now you said that. I don't know who to listen to this is much harder than i thought it would be.

[jindori]

I agree with Rob.

However, the Mod let us know in his first post there are multiple factions, so it complicates the idea of a "scum-driven wagon." By my count, and I'm doing it off of memory, we have 3 or 4 anti-town factions. It's very likely that tons of scum are on both wagons. It's just a matter of picking the dirty ones.

I'm inclined to believe that the people driving the wagons, are less likely to be scum. It's the players jumping in on a whim that are the problems. The one player that sticks out to me more than anything is ChronoPie, if only because he's the person I've seen post the least. Of course I have 15 players on the wagons to choose from, so in my attempts to find scum, I'm looking through a haystack.

Unvote

Vote: Chronopie

Still, I don't like it. Your first post of the game was to immediately hop on the largest bandwagon. This in my mind puts you ahead of the other dirty bandwagoners.

Preview: Shift posted. Hmm...

The reasons for both lynches are conjecture at best. I don't see any facts, I see jokes and bad play taken out of hand. If this were any other Day than Day 1, I don't think these bandwagons would fill so fast. But since it's Day 1, it's easy for people to jump on bandwagons when it's convenient.

I'm gonna kinda answer your question Shift. Why are some people not voting either player? One of them is going to get lynched, and you don't need my help to do it. These lynches can and will happen. That's no excuse to give up scum-hunting, like so many players have done. The Day phase last 3 weeks, and we're pretty close to a lynch in just 3 days. Does that not bother anyone besides me?

Hold on there a secound the opening post refers to mafia and werewolves only. Third party could be roles given that aren't vanilla townies but could also be another mafi,werewolf satan worshippers ect. So i'd say 2-3 ussaly. Tnx for giving us a little extra info.

Unvote Pine vote T bone.

[jindori]

Plus T-bone pointed out information town couldn't know. 3-4 scum factions when the only possible ones listed are mafia,werewolf and thirdy party (not parties) this makes me think there's info us towns weren't given.

[jindori]

Ok fine point proven
We will know for sure after the first night. But untill more evidence is piled up against him.

Unvote tbone

[jindori]

he said 3 or 4

[jindori]

whats a sk???

[jindori]

now i feel stupid i thought i did something smart and found a vital piece of evidence but it turned out to eb nothing.

[jindori]

I agree with Rob.

However, the Mod let us know in his first post there are multiple factions, so it complicates the idea of a "scum-driven wagon." By my count, and I'm doing it off of memory,

we have 3 or 4 anti-town factions

. It's very likely that tons of scum are on both wagons. It's just a matter of picking the dirty ones.

I'm inclined to believe that the people driving the wagons, are less likely to be scum. It's the players jumping in on a whim that are the problems. The one player that sticks out to me more than anything is ChronoPie, if only because he's the person I've seen post the least. Of course I have 15 players on the wagons to choose from, so in my attempts to find scum, I'm looking through a haystack.

Unvote

Vote: Chronopie

Still, I don't like it. Your first post of the game was to immediately hop on the largest bandwagon. This in my mind puts you ahead of the other dirty bandwagoners.

Preview: Shift posted. Hmm...

The reasons for both lynches are conjecture at best. I don't see any facts, I see jokes and bad play taken out of hand. If this were any other Day than Day 1, I don't think these bandwagons would fill so fast. But since it's Day 1, it's easy for people to jump on bandwagons when it's convenient.

I'm gonna kinda answer your question Shift. Why are some people not voting either player? One of them is going to get lynched, and you don't need my help to do it. These lynches can and will happen. That's no excuse to give up scum-hunting, like so many players have done. The Day phase last 3 weeks, and we're pretty close to a lynch in just 3 days. Does that not bother anyone besides me?

UHH HELLO?

Red: Mafia
Brown: Werewolves
Purple: Third Party
Green: Town

I said ANTI-TOWN. As in Mafia or Werewolves, or Cult. Guess what? That's EXACTLY what the mod lists on the first post. Notice how I said 3 or 4? There are four factions right there, and THREE are Anti-town. Nice way to not read and try to turn a quick lynch guys.

@NS - Marathon games. First Large game here. I'm not a fool I played elsewhere.

@ Gorilla - I don't like either bandwagon. Why should I?

So are townies counte as anti town factions.

[jindori]

As much as I hate defending other players to a slight bit of pressure, T-Bone's third party "slip" is entirely null.

He said 3-4 antitown factions.

Last time I checked, Mafia+Werewolves+Third party (1)=3. Perfectly in the range of what he said.

Probably more than one third party based on the size of the game. That makes it 3+. Sorry, but T-Bone is in the right here and this push is ridiculous.

quote="Shift"]Jin, even then, the point on T-Bone knowing more than he should is bogus. Let's assume there are 3 kills (more doesn't really make a difference, less throws the point out altogether)

Mafia Kill
Werewolf Kill
??? Kill

??? kill could be either an SK or a vig. Both are common in large games.

T-Bone=Vig

Well, we're obviously not lynching him.

T-Bone=SK

In absolute claim or die mode, he could possibly claim vig (Though that's normally a bad idea for an SK) and guess what? We'd believe him

Chances are he's not even either of the two. I am honestly expecting three or four kills tonight, and at least 1 third party role. T-Bone saying that is a null tell in my book.[/quote]

But you defended t bone before and your reason look at a glance acceptable the keyword here is at a glance. But your defences towards have been empty how many kills doesn't matter in how many anti scum faction. Also 3 bieng in range does not clarify why there is 4 in there 2-3 ould of been better. But 4 all i can say is scu-scu-scumbo combo.

@rayfrost is this how you scum hunt???

[jindori]

My double quotes are not working that well whats wrong with them sadface.

[jindori]

Also when did i defend myself using old pokemon online mafia games an excuse. If i recall the only time i went in depth about it is when a player asked me about my expierence and i told him how diffrent it was to this. You have a habit changing the context of things to make other players look scummy.

Vote c worl

[jindori]

i'm just putting pressure on people to see if they crack and it seems you have c worl.

[jindori]

Let see your reason was shot down quickly 3 pages ago. I also voted you before i voted pine if you remeber also at the time pine seemed more scummy but as time went on. You post have got scumier and scumier and you look like the obvious choice now. Then you also ignored the reason why i voted you. Cause you change the context of what players say to make them look scummy. Also weren't you on and still on the pine ban wagon. I am quite confident in my judgement now and in everyone elses that you are scum trying to streatch to save himself from bieng lynched. Also i noticed you seem to put all the blame on the newer players to try and get votes off yourself after rayfrost found you out. There is a diffrence between a scum streatch and townie streach if you could point out why my streatch would be scummy please do tell.

[jindori]

oh that was sir scums alot c worl

[jindori]

that was at excuse my grammer.

[jindori]

ok noob question what happens when we drop below 13.

[jindori]

Tnx that helped. Also wondering if there be a mayor in this game someone who has two votes.

[jindori]

Also how would a mayor be played here thats been puzzling me since i joined????

[jindori]

I like the idea of that. The vote mechanic in itself intrigues me i'm kinda hyper about this game lol.

[jindori]

yep i am pretty blatant but that is my play style i say whats on my mind.

[jindori]

the post above which said i was blatent anyway i am in the middle of writting a detailed responce to you.

[jindori]

Let see your reason was shot down quickly 3 pages ago.

How can I reason for voting for you one page ago have been shot down three pages ago?

I also voted you before i voted pine if you remeber also at the time pine seemed more scummy but as time went on.

Which brings up my point of you constantly switching your votes from wagon to wagon.

You post have got scumier and scumier and you look like the obvious choice now. Then you also ignored the reason why i voted you.

The reason, as you said was that you had only brought up the pokemon game once when I said you had brought it up as a defense more than once. Considering you did bring it up more than once that was a lie on your part.

Cause you change the context of what players say to make them look scummy.

Explain to me how I changed the context of what you said.

Also weren't you on and still on the pine ban wagon.

Considering my vote is on you right now, no I am not still on the Pine wagon. Yes, I was on it originally but that's more or less because I simply don't like Pine.

I am quite confident in my judgement now and in everyone elses that you are scum trying to streatch to save himself from bieng lynched.

Well, I'm happy you're confident. Confidence is always a nice trait to have. It's misplaced in this situation.

Also i noticed you seem to put all the blame on the newer players to try and get votes off yourself after rayfrost found you out.

I only aimed at one newer player, at that was you.

There is a diffrence between a scum streatch and townie streach if you could point out why my streatch would be scummy please do tell.

How can I reason for voting for you one page ago have been shot down three pages ago?
Because, of the exact reasons I stated before. You hop from wagon to wagon. The two times you were voted for you quickly changed your vote to the person who voted for you.

Does hoping from the biggest wagon to someone you think looks suspicious sound scummy to you. Also i voted someone who voted for me the first time cause there was no scummy posts yet. The secound time which is i hoped back on a wagon for the person i voted before because you look like scum who in a last ditch of survival is trying to switch the blame i even came up with a valid reason.

[The reason, as you said was that you had only brought up the pokemon game once when I said you had brought it up as a defense more than once. Considering you did bring it up more than once that was a lie on your part.

Considering my vote is on you right now, no I am not still on the Pine wagon. Yes, I was on it originally but that's more or less because I simply don't like Pine.

That doesn't spell town to me C-worl voting for a player you hate for personal reason when 3-4 pages have past does it spell town to you.

I only aimed at one newer player, at that was you.

I thought pine was new but ok.

The reason, as you said was that you had only brought up the pokemon game once when I said you had brought it up as a defense more than once. Considering you did bring it up more than once that was a lie on your part.

You only mentioned one time i brought it up as a defence and you said i use it numerous times so is that a lie on your part.

Explain to me how I changed the context of what you said.

Ok Look at your post now think this post V

How can I reason for voting for you one page ago have been shot down three pages ago?

I never meant that what i meant was c frost shot down your reason the one you said happened three pages ago.

Reasons why you're mafia:
1. OMGUS reaction to my vote on you.

this was your post to ray frost post 59 His vote to you wasn't omgus Post like these are the reason i am voting you.

[jindori]

Damn my quotes screwed up again but you can tell which ones my post and which one is his.

[jindori]

@tbone Yeh i didn't intentially go rolefishing it's just i thought double voters were always in mafia games 9 plus but i geuss the number of people doesn't effect the roles on this site. Tnx for the warning.

[jindori]

Does hoping from the biggest wagon to someone you think looks suspicious sound scummy to you.

[Considering my wagon had lost steam at the time and the pine wagon was gaining steam then yes, it does sound scummy. ..

Well when everyones shouting this guys scum and half the people saying your villy what would of you done? Well now you have proven yourself as scum.

Also i voted someone who voted for me the first time cause there was no scummy posts yet.

I fail to see how that's an acceptable defense. .

Well if you fail to see it as suitable defence then fine i gave you my reason if thats not good enough for you but that is the truth.

The secound time which is i hoped back on a wagon for the person i voted before because you look like scum who in a last ditch of survival is trying to switch the blame i even came up with a valid reason.

Your reason wasn't valid. I already pointed that out.

Considering my vote is on you right now, no I am not still on the Pine wagon. Yes, I was on it originally but that's more or less because I simply don't like Pine.

That doesn't spell town to me C-worl voting for a player you hate for personal reason when 3-4 pages have past does it spell town to you.

I thought pine was new but ok.

We both joined the site at around the same time, and we've both played mafia in other places before though never together. I don't really consider him new.

This was not a question of what you thought but what i thought another example of you twisting the meaning of things.

You only mentioned one time i brought it up as a defence and you said i use it numerous times so is that a lie on your part.

Considering you originally denied ever using it as a defense you're now admitting that you did use it as a defense at least once. Be careful how you respond because I will go back and find the quotes later. (I'm fixin to leave).

Explain to me how I changed the context of what you said.

Ok Look at your post now think this post V

How can I reason for voting for you one page ago have been shot down three pages ago?

I never meant that what i meant was c frost shot down your reason the one you said happened three pages ago.

That's not me changing the context, that's you being vague and me getting confused because of it.

Well you were confused now you know doesn't explain the other times you have changed the context of things.

Reasons why you're mafia:
1. OMGUS reaction to my vote on you.

this was your post to ray frost post 59 His vote to you wasn't omgus Post like these are the reason i am voting you.[/quote]

Considering he never actually stated his original reason for voting me, yes it was OMGUS.

He did state it

[jindori]

[quote="Jindori"]Well when everyones shouting this guys scum and half the people saying your villy what would of you done? Well now you have proven yourself as scum.[quote] when i said proven yourself i meant over all not in that post so i'm not vauge for you to help you understand c worl.

[jindori]

i really have a hard time with quotes bolding forums are confusing. More confusing than this game lol.

[jindori]

jindori reminds me of a hyperactive puppy, so excited to be here that he jumps and bounds and caroms off the walls.

Remind me to sig this after the games over. Ginga Nagareboshi Gin.

[jindori]

Since the game is at a stand still and my only two scum readings are C-worl(1 and certinly scum) and krob (probally scum). I'm quite intreasted In searching other players motives. Bristop he hasn't posted much, but out of his two post (well two post off by memmory) 113 was a bit aggresive and stood out to me. Nachoman also hasn't posted much content just a list of players and what he thinks they are with no real reasoning aside from pine.(who seems like town now)

In the hopes of getting this game moving again i want a indepth reason for their actions,long wait between post and why their posts don't show much content(through nacho put past expeirence about pine but it's more about the others on his list.). (by them not other players) Also yes i know alot of players havent put depth into their posts but your posts stood out to most to me.

Hopefully this will get the ball rolling and we can have some leads for day two.

[jindori]

Anyway i be off to bed i will respond in the morning to your post.

[jindori]

Now rereading all the posts, i missed some of bristep posts and the fact his post against was a rv. That agression could just be excitement. Cleared for the time bieng still hasn't made town yet through.

[jindori]

List of town(since everyone seems to be listing)

RayFrost
Pine
Chronopie
gorrilla
shift
conspiracy

mafia

C worl
Krob

suspicious

T bone
tclawren
nacho

the rest are unkown

[jindori]

NS is holding out his vote for a hero bonnie tyler style.
(Jokes lol)

[jindori]

@ Mr zephyr how could it make me a liability just curious.

[jindori]

@Cworl People in glass houses shouldn't throw bricks. When half your posts are personal insults or dramiticly defencisive. i think that would make you a liability to don't ya think.

[jindori]

@cworl some old information there but alot of new info mixed in.

[jindori]

ok cworl how about you do an indepth one on rayfrost or nacho since you already done a couple pages on me.

[jindori]

That would probally be me or ray

[jindori]

Real Men use Shift. /ot

But atm I can't really get into the game. Some NAs/Scumflips to analyze would be useful. With a base point to work off, I always do better.

I thought alt f4 was for real men who want to spam caps.

Anyway cworl did present a good case on tclawren and has actually made me rethink some things but he could just be pointing out opposing scum. But sure does help so.

(edited you ninjad)

[jindori]

Jindori looked like a good vote but I forget what he did upon entering the game that made me think as much.

I am a good vote but you can't remeber why please elabarote on this.

[jindori]

whoops misread this looked like a good vote well it was probally my omgus vote on nero. I didn't relise that that was scummy cause this my first game of mafia on this site.

[jindori]

Probably was that. Anyway, you're new - Most of you are new - And I unconsciously signed up as an IC player. FML.

Although I'd like to point out that this is a very [oddly] driven case.[/rul] This kind of determination is unexpected from someone new like yourself. With your top town reads being Ray, Chrono and Pine, what do you make of them going at each other, jindori?

HI KISE!!!!!

WADDUP, BOI????

I didn't know you were a coach on the side.

FOS

Well actually most of the argument at that point was me and cworl. Also it was really the beggning of the game and msot people were still rving and cworl came off as the scummiest post and i listed my reasons why i voted him. What do mean ray chrono and pine are going at each other the time i made that post the only scummy players were cworl and krob. Can i ask you why you bring up some inaccurate information like that.

[jindori]

excuse my grammer and spelling mistakes i kinda busy with gf/soon to be ex to check

[jindori]

Just saying this before we lynch c worl, look at the player kise. His reasons for casting suspicion on a player are a well detailed post and and players arguing with each other which stopped early in the game once it became clear who was villy and scum F.O.S at kise.

[jindori]

Maybe C-Worl and Jindori should post less, because you two are basically the same things for pages upon pages, and it's given people to come on and make excuses for not playing by saying "too much posting i need to catch up". Volume of posts does not equal helpful posts. It's detracting from the game.

It only takes 5-10 minutes to read all the posts but then again i am a fast reader. But you have to admit the only thing that was pages apon pages was my debate with c worl while our other posts have been producitive(except cworls personal attacks and you regreat voting me style).

[jindori]

@tbone also iso is short for International Organization for Standardization. iso image could mean something else through.

[jindori]

I will appoligise for the endless arguing with cworl through and the quote walls and lol heres me thinking iso was some technical computer term.

[jindori]

i have another question how long does the twilight and night phase last.

[jindori]

I'm sorry i will try to keep my post in one if that helps, i will put enter from now own if the subject is diffrent to make a easier read too.

Also another case on kise, he seems to have held off his vote all game for the whole game he also criticised players that were lurking when himself has been doing that the whole game. I know i'm repeating this but i don't think i was clear before when i said it.

Kise claimed that all my villys list were arguing with each other in an attempt to incriminate me but with posts like 288 and the fact pies vote on pine was rvs it makes me wonder why he would say something like that. Nearly all your posts are contentless and to me it looks like your dodging the prod.

An example of a useless post to dodge prods

Lol. Pine, it's not MaxFrost, it's RAYFrost. I don't know what to do with you... I know OOC what you're doing, but I don't know if it's due to your alignment or because you be nubby.

Lol cod damn. I'm going to work for about an hour or two. BBS.

How soon was that. soon enough to recieve a prod.


And post 19 came right out of pines mouth

IM SCUM TRAITOR

[jindori]

@c worl yes you are right my bad and that kinda makes my point null on pies reason for pine. Thanks for pointing that out.

[jindori]

Well to you the truth i don't remeber ray going at pine and i thought pine was scum until recently to. Pine doesn't really seem scummy to me at the momment but i think the safer lynch would would be snake or krob i am starting to doubt c worl bieng mafia through.

[jindori]

jindori

: First this:

i am thinking of jumping on the pine ban wagon but it strikes me as odd how fast the pine ban wagon built up votes so fast seems like some team work was involved maybe from the other scum.

Then a mere five minutes later this:

unvote c worl vote pine

why doesn't the bold butten work all the time it fraustrates me.

It looks like he saw a quickly forming bandwagon and made the compulsory "this is scum" post, before recognising possible team-mates on the wagon. Another suspicious read.

If you have a read of the the first post properly i pointed out that i thought pine was still scum at the time and other scum refers to the other team cause there are two teams.

[jindori]

Sorry bout hitting the submit was supposed to hit preview

Anyway tell me this if you were scum and your team all jumped on a wagon that everyone looked as scum would you even mention the possiblity that scum jumped on the wagon and then vote it yourself???

Also i was the first one to mention that pines wagon might be scummy because it built up to fast. post 149

[jindori]

The only thing I really find scummy about Snake is his last post, where he says he plays the same every game. Which is silly. But that just might be arrogance on his part.

The "werewolf" claim is totally just reading comprehension fail for me, not necessarily scummy. Also, he's totally having connectivity issues right now, just check his recent posts. Nearly all of his recent posts have been in this game.

So to recap he is lurking. WHICH IS NOT SCUMMY. Only

active lurking

is scummy.

Just noticed why did he say werewolf instead of scum seems like his telling us his role.

[jindori]

Lol to tell the truth i just skim through the posts since theres that many. But i think your right i don't see how clan is a werewolf term but snake is still a bit suspicious through if you ask me.

[jindori]

I think everyone gets tunnel vision about cworl. I mean my argument with him made me think he was scum but it's hard to tell the diffrence between a troll villy and scum. Snake would be the better lynch through. Also i think i know what the important news rayfrost wants to tell us is. But i rather he said it so i know if wrong or right, i geuss it has something to do with his role.

Also raudergramn sounds like town, but rauds a sub and the person raud subbed was alot. So we don't have alot to work on, whilte the reverse is true for raud. But the way raud is generally active off the bat points me towards town.

I noticed there's a lot of WIFOM going around and i think i am a guilty of of this in some my posts to. So i think we should try to stick to hard facts now to determine things.

[jindori]

Unvote Cworl

[jindori]

Also do you guys mind if i just call scum mafia. I'm used to the teams being called italian mafia and french candian mafia(probally a american idea the last one) it gets really confusing having to switch back and forth termonology.

[jindori]

Something to do with his vote on you it's pretty much confused me i don't know which role is which.

[jindori]

I still feel that C-Worl is projecting scum vibes.

C-Worl > Snake lynch.

I still havent layed down my vote because i want to hear what frost wants to say. But snake does seem like scum all you have to do is look at his post. I think lynching a mafia werewolf scum bastard(lol) over a troll villy (cworl) is a better option anyway. So when c worl speaks my vote will be on snake.

Just started my readback now im online for a littlew while. This comment jumped out at me.

I'M IN THE CLAN, I HAVE TO TALK IN CAPS. I FORGOT THAT AND THAT'S WHERE I LOST MY WAY, BUT NOW THAT I'VE BEEN FOUND AGAIN I WILL NEVER GO CAPSLESS AGAIN.

Is this a Werewolf claim? Eitherway my vote stays exactly where it is.

this is probally the main reason snake is the better vote other than his low acticty.

[jindori]

@rclawren Post 347 onwards convienced me cworl trollish town, He has supplied us with well detailed information, when there was a high chance he would get elimanated. When he called pine an ungrateful tree it made me laugh lol. He does personal insults ect so that makes me think of him as a troll.

Anyway tclawren i am intreasted why you are getting impatient.

[jindori]

Yep cworl band wagon was getting to big and rayfrost said not to lynch anyone before his speech. Also my vote will be on snake like i said already in post 460.

[jindori]

Yeah i geuss you got a point gorilla

vote snake plissken.

[jindori]

@Nero Cain

Listning to other people cases not only can give you a new insight but can help pick out scum. I generally believed at the time my vote was right nero. Using votes is a good way to pressure people. Also why go to tbone if cworl still had such a strong wagon at the time wouldn't that be more opportunistic to go on cworls wagon again instead of hunting potential scum.

Plus T bones reaction wasn't excactly the best to it, it was overly defence plus like you said his been playing grab ass with krob. I wouldn't of noticed that if you didn't point that out through:/

@DemonHybrid i voted Snakeplissken before but oh well lol i will do it again.

vote SnakePlissken

Sorry, I missed it. Edited in the last votecount.

[jindori]

RayFrost, what happened to your big grand post you promised us?

If he is doing what i think his doing then he will probally anwser this on day 2.

[jindori]

^the troll inside everyone

[jindori]

Yeh snake does seem like the better lynch but to be honest i think half the people voting cworl are just voting cause they don't like him.

[jindori]

ninjaed by cworl

[jindori]

yes i love you more than my non exsistant dragon called albi who cries jelly beans and spews rainbows.

[jindori]

@lol i think your just a townie vanilla townie cworl so tell me who you want to lynch you most.

@rayfrost i thought you were watcher or inspector something and trying to get docters attention so you could figure out the roles. I was tottaly wrong. Anyway geuss that's a good thing.

[jindori]

Ok i am sure everyone will keep that in mind. I also think if tbone thinks voting you is a townie thing to do he should do it himself.

[jindori]

SLAMMA HAMMA!

Now seriously, where's our prophet to come and speak for us? He decree there shalt not be thyme hammer or he shall smite thyne hammer insertion in thy rear orifices.

Pretty lame to bring C-Worl this close to a lynch. C-Worl if you are town why are you voting? And if your plan is to lure scum by bringing yourself to L-1, why are you announcing it? Only town will hammer now.

If you're town you should unvote. Not unvoting is an admission of guilt.

sorry to split this in two posts. this is just a more detailed version of my last post which i rushed.

@tbone if only town would hammer why did you not hammer down on him. You also seem to be pushing hard for someone else to vote him. I don't think this a townie thing to do trying to lure and bait someone into looking scummy. Cause if he rolls town you can claim the guy he voted him was scum, if he rolls scum mafia werewolf sk or just a general bastard you will just claim you were right. That post put you in a good postion anyway cworl roles. fos @ tbone
If you really believed this you would voted him yourself that he was scum.

btw i still think cworl is a vanilla ville. This is my last defence of cworl i can't really be stuffed after this and pine will lynch him anyway.

[jindori]

@rayfrost i thought you were watcher or inspector something and trying to get docters attention so you could figure out the roles

What gave you this idea?

His big post thing i also thought it could be a trap for scum like if he was watcher he could watch himself and see how many people vist him ect. I had many wild ideas what he was planning. It turned out he was parionoid gunner which was a let down because i was wrong atleast we get one gaureented villi.

[jindori]

nope never heard of a day kill and if i am going to get killed i hope docter can save me.

[jindori]

i am westside werewolf pack i will also supply you with a little extra information there is a eastside werewolf pack our win condition is to kill them off and they are our rivals and judging from the first post there some mafia as well.

[jindori]

well if i said smaller than 4 would that be good enough.

[jindori]

don't worry theres a wolf pack protection roles of some sorts it doesn't work against mafia through.

[jindori]

well inspecet should inspect me tonight to prove i'm telling the truth if it says westside werewolf and not just general werewolf. Also thats why i cracked down on tbone on saying the 3-4 scum thing his not in my pack so can you do me a favour and kill him for me. Because he may be eastside werewolf.

[jindori]

Maybe east side werewolfs have to kill townies??? all i know is the main objective is the eastside werewolves and survival.

[jindori]

tclawren reminds me of mafia more and more i never claimed scum i just claimed i wasn't in your townie. Anyway when it says westside werewolfs when you hang me or day kill you will know or inspect me over night. Just have mercy over my pack cause they want to do is kill eastside and survive.

[jindori]

Anyway my lynching will benefit my team as it proves to the townies that also will you day kill tclawren or tbone pine so it evens up the werewolves side.
1.there is east and westside werewolves.
2.there objectives are to kill each other.
3.just look how many kills there are tonight.

[jindori]

well tclawren you got alot of info and the truth so i geuss you and pine are either mafia or masons.

[jindori]

probally not eastside werewolfs since you guys didn't know about them.

[jindori]

Anyway don't vist frost he really isn't my partner. I mean defenly not my partner.

[jindori]

westside i'm westside.

[jindori]

when did people mix east side with west side.

[jindori]

i probally won't die tonight unless it's mafia or vigilante just saying. Also i believe frost about bieng crazygunman.

[jindori]

you have my fos t bone about bieng east side werewolves.

[jindori]

Jin...Based on what exactly?

So guys I hate to point out the obvious, but do you really think someone who just claimed werewolf is going to say "My win condition is to get rid of town." NO! He's gonna lie his ass off and say he's no threat to the town.

I have one more thing to comment on, I lost the quote. I had said to C-Worl that "scum won't hammer now" to which someone else said "T-Bone didn't hammer he's scum!". Well that's a bit of WIFOM right? Plus, I never believed in the C-Worl lynch.

Back to the matters at hand. Jindori is never going to admit his real win condition. He's gonna say that his goal isn't to get rid of town. The liklihood of him telling the truth about needing to get rid of another group? Pretty fair. But at the end of the day Town cannot win with his faction.

And because I am town, I can't win as long as you live Jindori

Unvote

Vote: Jindori

well the fact you mentioned the 3-4 diffrent factions points me to the direction that your eastside werewolf. Your post is practice what you preach. If you never believed in cworl bieng lynched why push so hard at it your throwing wifom right now. Also look at the way i played if i was scum wouldn't i stayed on c worl no i am third party.

[jindori]

VOTE: Jindori
His win condition may not be to kill the town, but does that mean he isn't a threat to us? Nope. If these west/east-side werewolves have the ability to kill someone at night, that makes them an automatic threat to the town. How do they know that they're hitting their target? They don't, and we could end up losing town power roles very quickly if we let these guys live.

What happens if i hit a mafia or a threat two town thats like a double edge blade. Also who says eastside are have the same objective as westside. your argument can be done both ways. Also think of it like two games of mafia smashed into one i'm like a villy version west side werewolf role anyway i can only vote anyway.

[jindori]

Unvote Vote t bone

I still think your eastside werewolf. Watcher will have a fun time watching me. I think mafia will go after me cause i might cause a hole in there plan. I Bet you i get alot vists maybe from role blocker ect. Even through i got minor protection from eastside werewolves mafia and vigilante can still kill me so if no one claims a power role can docter protect me. Also tbone your post were overly defencive when i pressed you about the 3-4 faction thing. They were as defencive as they were now. Would a villy be that way no your east side werewolf.

[jindori]

i'm third party not scum

[jindori]

It says brown. But notice the werewolves which means theres the possiblity of more than one faction of werewolves so consider me pseudo third party.

[jindori]

@eldritch lord
I do i was just pointing it out because T-bones theroy was i if am telling the truth then i must be third party, used word posiblity so it would debunk his theroy but it was a nice catch if through null.

[jindori]

VOTE COUNT

Day 1 Vote Count (#23)

jindori - 4 (tclawren, T-Bone, RaudhrGarm, Powerrox93)

Yeah my "town list" can't have anything to do with the people voting claimed scum. Right? I picked 3 names at random.

For the record I don't make lists, as I was just stating the players who had voted Jindori as my examples.

The town's win condition is to eliminate all threats to the town. Werewolves are a threat to the town. Don't believe me? Well surely you've believe this guy.

Dead:

Tour Guide, NPC Tour Guide,

Torn to Shreds

and Shot Night 0!

Werewolves tear people to shreds right? and this NPC was a representative of the town right? And you're telling me Pine, that all this screams NON-THREAT to you?

I mean I can't spell this out any easier. Jindori claimed werewolf. And he claimed third party. According to the Mod...

Red: Mafia

Brown: Werewolves

Purple: Third Party

Green: Town

Blue: NPC

Silver: Modkilled Neutral Survivor

That's not possible.

Now, my apologies to everyone else. I realize I've been arguing with scum, and I've been over generalizing with my accusations, since most players haven't posted since Jindori claimed scum.

@Pine. Why do you continue to ignore Jindori's contradictions? I caught him in a lie. Does that quote from the Mod say that werewolves are third party? Or am I correct is saying that the mod listed werewolves and third party as two separate factions? And if you still believe him to be third party, why do you think the Mod would list things differently? Why do you think werewolves who contributed to the death of the NPC Night 0 are NOT a threat to the town? I know you're gonna defend your scumbuddy till the end and not change your mind, and that's fine with me. You can vote me all you want. You can be WRONG all you want.

@ Jindori - So there's another faction of werewolves of a different color from Brown running around? Is that what you are saying? Well if they aren't Red/Blue/Green/Brown/Purple/Silver. What are they?

@ Jindori (again) I think you're only half telling the truth. I do believe that you know there are more werewolves out there. I DON'T believe that you are NOT a threat to the town.

Actually for you info my teams kill action is claw to the back, third party is probally serial killers vigilante ect.

[jindori]

Okay, claw to the back. I think in that case you'd be ripping them into shreds from behind but whatever.

So what is your faction color than? Red? Brown? Purple? Another color the Mod doesn't list?

I know you are telling part of the truth that your win condition is to get rid of the other factions. I also know you will never claim that getting rid of the town is part of your win condition.

So Jindori let's do a hypothetical. Say we let you live, and then quickly get rid of the other factions, leaving just your faction and town. Does this end the game?

It should if not you should just vote me off thats how confident i am.

[jindori]

i did i said brown i said think of us as a pseudo third party.

[jindori]

I don't really want to anwser the first one but under 4

i geuss under 4 i don't know it said something about them infecting or something could grow.

[jindori]

Well think of it like this then east side werewolfs could = cultist mechanic and my lynch will prove east side exist. They are probally going to be the most dangerous faction in the game.

Unvote vote jindori

Well screw it anyway that was a dirty thing kise did i don't care if survial if i'm not playing i request a mod kill on me.

[jindori]

Also i said under 4 the real number is not 4

[jindori]

since i'm geussing eastside have similer mechnics to us since i now know cult mechnics are banned in normal games. They probally going to have some townie roles which you wouldn't expect on werewolf/mafia lynching me now would be the better of things.

[jindori]

i think my team mates would be pissed off but i seriously don't care cause i feel like i been cheated and backstabbed. So i will just give you one role westside werewolf watcher. Also i seriorsuly don't know what cworl is. He just likes albi the dragon that spews rainbows ect. I also expect mafia to have a watcher. So if you guys don't lynch me now you could lose some power roles.