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Lol. Pine, it's not MaxFrost, it's RAYFrost. I don't know what to do with you... I know OOC what you're doing, but I don't know if it's due to your alignment or because you be nubby.
Lol cod damn. I'm going to work for about an hour or two. BBS.They have escaped into the mansion where they thought it was safe.
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UnvoteThat is all.[/lurk]
Nero Cain is experiencing internet problems but looks to return in a few days.
^I'm surprised some people aren't voting. I'll have to look into this tomorrow night... Unless I give another one of my games more priority. Again.
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Just me, huh?
Yeeeeah....
I signed up for this, expecting to play a good round with my offsite scummers, but, kr0b & Cain are on limited access, which pretty much makes this another typical new york game.
My 1 hour's worth of observation leads me to believe Lowell, Lucresia and Snake are scum(my) for parking votes on the inevitably big bandwagon with little reasoning for the initial votes + lurking. It goes hand in hand.
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Not reading multiple pages of iso for CW & Pine. Jindori looked like a good vote but I forget what he did upon entering the game that made me think as much.They have escaped into the mansion where they thought it was safe.
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Probably was that. Anyway, you're new - Most of you are new - And I unconsciously signed up as an IC player. FML.
Although I'd like to point out that this is a very [oddly] driven case. This kind of determination is unexpected from someone new like yourself. With your top town reads being Ray, Chrono and Pine, what do you make of them going at each other, jindori?
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Now that you've had this revelation, you may answer my question. Your top town reads were going at it - mainly RFand Chrono going at Pine. What is your take on that? Also, At this point I am more comfortable lynching Pine than before. Him or Snake OR the other 2 I mentioned.jindori wrote:@c worl yes you are right my bad and that kinda makes my point null on pies reason for pine. Thanks for pointing that out.They have escaped into the mansion where they thought it was safe.
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Ohai. You were a non-presence when I was looking over things last night/this morning. Sorry, battle toad.T-Bone wrote:@ Kise - Screw you I'm still playing.
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From what I've seen, when he acts scummy, he IS scum. Refer to [REDACTED AND REDACTED] for support of this.They have escaped into the mansion where they thought it was safe.
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I don't know. I'm guessing there's a minigame going on between two different wolfpacks that have to hunt each other. As long as they don't kill C-Worl or myself, they have a decent chance of hitting rival wolves.
But ugh... anyway, I guess I should help jindori since that was pretty mean of me.They have escaped into the mansion where they thought it was safe.
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He's claiming hunter, so I mean.....
I don't know. Since he went ahead and claimed his alignment, I DON'T think he would also throw in a lie about being hunter. If he doesn't have to kill town, he's alright with me. Team Westside, woot woot.
Yeah I still don't know what the fuck just happened. I'd let him live though. A watcher will see some good things tonight if jindori gets touched.They have escaped into the mansion where they thought it was safe.
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Right, Pine, and he needs to eliminate the eastside wolfpack to win. He did NOT say anything about eliminating townsfolk.
Yeah I'm sure jindori was just joking. I'm his mason partner and we wanted to dick around. So anyway let's get back to lynching Snake.They have escaped into the mansion where they thought it was safe.
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yeah, bone is eastside. The way i see it, if you act scummy, the wolves will take you out. Their nightkill is needed for a game this big. jin gave us extra info. His reason for jumping on bone earlier makes perfect sense. This island belongs to the wolves, so show some respectThey have escaped into the mansion where they thought it was safe.
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Dude, of course I was going to support jindori. He claimed within 2-3 minutes of me faking the DK and made a concise post, which told me he had this on his mind a long time ago and didn't just make it up. And, in appreciation for... well, tricking him like that... I wanted to keep him alive and let the eastside group (I'm now not sure if it's more wolves or mafia, who knows) decide what to do with him instead of using our lynch on him.
HE DID NOT CLAIM THE NEED TO KILL TOWN. He said he needed to survive though... And he fucking flips goon to boot, so now I know he's not a hunter like he claimed. In that case, I, UNLIKE YOU PINE, don't sympathize for the westside since it's quite clear NOW that they were a mafia group all along.
So, sorry to everyone - mainly jindori because... anyway. But I am sorry to the rest of you for not believing he was scum. Goon = obvscum to me now. So we can confirm that this is a normal game. I was tripping anyway because I forgot that hunter is the same thing as lyncher, and that isn't a role for normal games..... although Jebus got away with putting a lyncher and cult in a game one year.
RayFrost is obvpartner... think about it: Jindori lists him as the top town read very early on. Then when RF claims PGO, jindori says he thought he was a watcher all of a sudden. I of course theorized that they said this in a QT so I questioned jindori. But his continued, "RF is not with me, he's the crazy gunman" and eventual "we haz wolf watcher" pretty much make it evident that Ray INDEED was planning a watcher fake claim... Or IS the watcher and that's why jindori thought he should've/would've/could've claimed town watcher instead of town PGO.
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Cam is VT FFS. But for future reference, DO NOT SELF VOTE. You look town as hell for it combined with my experience playing with you, but self-voting plays against your win condition. (I'm thinking jindori's wolf watcher claim is what sealed his modkill) So, yeah, Cam's town. Let's get obvbuddy #2. I thought Conspiracy was obvbuddy #1 but who knows. I'm more sure of RF.They have escaped into the mansion where they thought it was safe.
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Here, he's trying to coach jindori in thread so he can save face. No way was jindori joking at that point. Due to RF coaching in thread, it's possible that scum cannot daytalk.RayFrost wrote:I don't even know how to react to this shit.
Jindori: were ou being honest or joking in your post?
Let jindori live 2 nights, and also decide on lynching either c-worl or snake...RayFrost wrote:I suggest we leave indori alive for a night or two. Tcwalren's scummy, but c-worl and snakeplissken are scum.
Guys, please decide between these two. They are both scum, but I have no certainty that they are mafia or otherwise.They have escaped into the mansion where they thought it was safe.
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http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Goon
The wiki won't even let us know what Goon is - It redirects to mafia. There's no such thing as a town goon, just like there's no such thing as vanilla mafioso.They have escaped into the mansion where they thought it was safe.
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Hmm... you know what, jindori did slip and say that the scum may not know each other right? I could buy that; scum being divided. So there's mod-confirmation (and site guidelines) that there cannot be more than two "anti-town families" which would be werewolves and a mafia. Westside mafia is jindori & RF (in my opinion).
Obviously, jindori and his partner(s) thought Bone was scummy for mentioning the large number of non-town divisions. Given that this leads to ALL of them having inside information, I'd say Bone is dead meat tonight since the scum will be curious to know if they were right about him.
Pine looks town (or SK is applicable) for still not being sure about jindori's claim of town neutral. I don't think Pine would continue to pester the mod with questions if he had information of his own to use that made it clear the werewolves are not neutral. But then again, Pine could still be mafia that was confused, right?
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Well, 8 scum to 16 town is fair, IF both scum groups have 4 members a piece. The town is usually at least two-thirds of the player list, and this is recommended in a wiki article I read as well. The west/east thing is funny but I won't try to outguess the mod. I'll speak more about what the setup could be when we see an East [SOMETHING] flip.They have escaped into the mansion where they thought it was safe.
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So maybe wolves can't kill each other IF they are simply split in half. Damn interesting stuff here. And that's the last thing I'll say about setup.jindori wrote:don't worry theres a wolf pack protection roles of some sorts it doesn't work against mafia through.They have escaped into the mansion where they thought it was safe.
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http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p2419365
Notice there were modified doctors - one to protect from wolf kills, and one to protect from mafia kills. I think this is what jindori was referring to.
Shh, shhh. Obvscum first, k?Nero Cain wrote:more TC votes ploxThey have escaped into the mansion where they thought it was safe.
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jindori wrote:
His big post thing i also thought it could be a trap for scum like if he was watcher he could watch himself and see how many people vist him ect. I had many wild ideas what he was planning.Kise wrote:
What gave you this idea?jindori wrote:@rayfrost i thought you were watcher or inspector something and trying to get docters attention so you could figure out the roles
C'mon.... Dram & Reck shouldn't waste the time reading, unless they will help find the other scum.jindori wrote:i will just give you one role westside werewolf watcher.They have escaped into the mansion where they thought it was safe.
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@Everyone: Snake or Reckamonic. Pick. Reckamonic will be night killed for the fakeclaiming wolves they are. I love them to death OOG, but they cannot live.
@Reckamonic: No comment about how jindori screwed you over? Not even a pat on my back for having a hand in exposing jindori? RF got quiet as a doorknob when jindori dropped the soap. You're toast. And BTW, I like C-Worl as town for his behavior BEFORE jindori got outed as wolf. I also feel that Pine is leaning town for being curious about the werewolf situation for as long as he has been.They have escaped into the mansion where they thought it was safe.
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SHUT YOR NOOB LIPS DONT BITE THE HAND THAT FEEDS YOU
WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT PROTOWN BEHAVIR
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Both you and CW are too easy; the typical day 1 mislynches. Your wagons grew way abnormally fast. Jindori's wagonhopping pretty much clears both you and CW as non-wolf at the very least - YES, he was newb as hell. If you think he was willing to bus, especially this early, think again. Jindori is the same guy that fell for my gambit. The fact that people don't want to use his newb comments seriously is puzzling.
And yes, I did go over reasons why I find CW town independent of the easy wagon he had built on him. I've played at least over a dozen games with him offsite and, just like his VT claim, this matches up perfectly with the current playstyle he's using. He may like to think he can disguise his play when he's scum and not look any differently, but, he's noticeable. I never said he was acting pro-town, but I know when he is town due to that offsite experience. Hence why I said "I like C-Worl as town."
The reason I pulled up the early votecount is to illustrate that if you're the expert on what's town and anti-town, then you should have done better than to get 9 votes piled on you with 5 votes essentially parked on you for many votecounts later. Yes, I'm taking a potshot at you. If it doesn't get you to reconsider your stance on CW, oh well, it must be stubbornness. The thing is, I can see both CW and yourself as town, and I do not want to see either of mislynched today.
Both scumteams have every intention to get a lynch going on feasibly scummy players like you and CW, so that would explain why there was little care that both your wagons grew so damn big in no time. You're both town, but both scumteams think you're their enemy scum. And, then of course, we have to consider that there's a lot of fresh players here so of course you all will jump on what you personally deem as scummy and speedwagon it. I'd rather have my eyes on veteran players that should know better than to go for opportunistic wagons like that.They have escaped into the mansion where they thought it was safe.
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I know, you've played live games for 10 years.
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Yeah, live games, where you use body language... So anyway. You've got CW read wrong. He's VT like he says. That's all I can say to you. Ray started a bogus wagon on the new kid, getting CW to argue with him so he could use CW's rookie mistakes against him. Later, RFtacked onmeatier reasons that had absolutely nothing to do with the inspiration behind his initial voting for CW:
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I know these forums better than you. Take my word or don't about the matter, but I clearly see what has gone on with your wagons.They have escaped into the mansion where they thought it was safe.
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Can't answer that right now. Just be content that I'm gonna do wtf I wantLucresia wrote:
What say you, Kise?Pine wrote: Alternatively, scum-Kise could just do nothing and claim on D2 to have visited him, causing us to lynch Reck on D2. If Reck is PGO and Kise Town, we lose a Town PR. If Reck is scum and Kise is Town, he just outed himself needlessly, and will get NKed by scum to support Reck's story. THERE IS NO REASON FOR KISE TO DO THAT UNLESS HE IS SCUM.with my gun. You all can go by what happens over night. Save the theories for D2.
I noticed a few scums outed themselves here and there. I'm fine with my vote though. It's about time the real scum were put under fire.They have escaped into the mansion where they thought it was safe.
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@guy: yeah, I said I wouldn't bother with jin because he claimed that he just needed to kill the eastsiders. I figured if he was absent-minded enough to believe my fake kill, he probably wouldn't lie in the same sentence that he claimed werewolf. It wasn't until AFTER he flipped goon that I realized he was anti-town.......@other guy/guys: why do you feel it's important for me to out my role? If Reckamonic is still alive, that should tell you enough.They have escaped into the mansion where they thought it was safe.
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Yeh u gaiz shud totlly let me live n kill skumteemz
Yo im gonna compile a post but I like sarcsm and it's funny how I get the SK speculation. But sure thats cool if it makes scum think I have a bulletproof modifier so they can't kill me. I'm cool with being called SK. Won't deny it at the moment.They have escaped into the mansion where they thought it was safe.
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