NY129-Mafia on Werewolf Island! (Game Over)

Pine · Mon May 09, 2011 1:52 pm

Mastin's refusal to go after one of his top reads indicates that he's scum and he

knows

I'm Town. He's done the research.

Pine · Mon May 09, 2011 2:28 pm

Like I said. My flip is pro-Town either way. Were I to flip scum, it would be in the Town's favor. When I flip VT, it shows that Mastin is full of shit, it completely disrupts his circularly-derived VCA cases, and it gives you (at bare minimum) one guaranteed scum lynch.

Pine · Mon May 09, 2011 5:57 pm

That quote is months old, and from when I first started playing on this site. It was foolish and incorrect, and I have found good reasons for self-sacrifice as Town since then.

This is one of those times.

Pine · Mon May 09, 2011 6:11 pm

I'm not a hypocrite; my thoughts on the subject have changed. Until that point, I had never been in a situation where I felt that my own mislynch would benefit Town, so I had no perspective. I found myself in that position in [redacted] and changed my opinion accordingly.

I'd call you scum for gross misrepresentation, but I'm concerned that it's starting to sound like a broken record. Honestly, how anyone has a Town read on you is beyond me.

Pine · Mon May 09, 2011 6:54 pm

Emphasis noted. The other half of that sentence is "How ironic, then, that in this game I (C-worl) am scum"

Pine · Tue May 10, 2011 6:07 am

Unvote
Vote: Pine

I'm quite serious, here.

@C-Worl: What inane question of yours did I miss?

Pine · Tue May 10, 2011 8:07 am

^Desperately doesn't want to be proven wrong.

Hey! Scumteam that doesn't have mastin on it! If you want to screw up your opposition, kill me if I manage to survive.

Pine · Tue May 10, 2011 9:54 am

Bullshit.

The fact that you're not hammering one of your supposed top scumreads is a scumclaim.

Do you people not see this yet? Because if there's support for a mastin wagon, we can still lynch scum today.

Pine · Tue May 10, 2011 10:02 am

UNVOTE: Pine
VOTE: mastin2

Works for me, Nacho.

Pine · Tue May 10, 2011 10:10 am

Nachomamma8 wrote:Mastin, if you thought Pine was wolf-scum, you'd lynch him.

If we could take down another wolf today, the last wolf would HAVE to start hunting mafia. So why would you give up the chance to turn a scumteam into a vig?

Ding! Correct answer, no matter how Mastin tries to scramble and spin it.

C-Worl is scum as always. I've answered that question several times.

Pine · Tue May 10, 2011 10:17 am

We wouldn't be in MyLo. Your math is wrong.

@ConSpiracy: We've been operating on a 3v3v1vTown assumption because 2 per scumteam is too small and 4 is too large.

Pine · Tue May 10, 2011 1:11 pm

^This makes zero sense.

At worst, you kill one wolf and put the other in desperate straits. If approach endgame with 3 mafia and 2 wolves, or even 2 v 2, they're both on equal footing and neither has incentive to seek the others out right away. Further, the Town is in a disastrous position of finally eliminating one and having the other still outnumber them. Taking one down to only a single player FORCES them to cross kill in order to survive, and provides incentive to the other side to completely eliminate their competition to remove the threat of cross kills.

In other words BULLSHIT.

Pine · Tue May 10, 2011 1:27 pm

^This post is why C-Worl is scum. Recognizing, concurring with, and elaborating upon the flaws in mastin's logic without voting.

Pine · Tue May 10, 2011 3:17 pm

Quit posting against me on our hydra account, dummy.

Pine · Tue May 10, 2011 3:55 pm

Unvote

Vote: Pine

Mastin's logic only makes sense if I'm a wolf or he's scum. Period.

My lynch will prove him scum, and will result in his scumbuddies being found and lynched. I'm willing to sacrifice myself to take out an entire scumteam.

Pine · Tue May 10, 2011 4:24 pm

I am comfortable with that possibility, and willing to put the noose around my own neck.

Pine · Tue May 10, 2011 5:23 pm

*puts noose around his neck*

Last chance to recant and tell us your scumbuddies, mastin.

Pine · Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:53 am

Mastin's walls were epic. He had me almost convinced, and I knew from the mod that he was scum.

Pine · Sun Jun 26, 2011 11:13 am

No offense, Con, but your Town play was horrible. I don't think you had a correct scumread until endgame, and you pushed Town mislynches really hard. Me, for example. You ignored good evidence and pursued bad ones.

Like I said, no offense intended. We've all been there and played in games where we were dead wrong about just about everything. But that's where the frustration came from. Particularly those of us who figured it all out and promptly died, then had our reads ignored even though we had flipped Town. I know that my top three when I died were stated to be Mastin, T-Bone, and Chrono, and I think Nacho was fifth behind Gorilla. And even though my stated reason for self-lynching was to get my reads taken seriously, no one reviewed them except C-Worl.