ny 157 ENDGAME RIP 2 KEVIN COSTNER (secret waterworld flavor

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Jeez!

15 pages in one day.

I will catch up here later.

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My head hurts skimming through those first 16 pages or so. I need to read and make notes in more detail before making any wild assumptions.

I guess I can live with a mass-claim.

I'm also not prepared to lynch a PR today.

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codex is probably scum btw

Based on?

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It's purely just a lack of reading actually, but whatever.

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Yeah I don't need to read properly yet.

[post=Hawker]Hawker[/post]

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I'M AN IDIOT.

VOTE: Hawker

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Your gut needs realigning.

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I'd have to read to do that.

One day. Keep your eyes peeled.

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You sure?

Mine has about 7 words and none mention the number of mafia.

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Though I haven't got a mafia role PM like you.

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Ah fucking hell, didn't realise the PMs were on the front page. See told you I should read .. well then in that case until I bother reading properly.

UNVOTE: Hayker

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flail scum

Scum always use the flailing argument. Always cracks me up why they do ....

Plus your reads are pretty dreadful and consist of sheeping roflwhatshisname.

VOTE: Scooby

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It is interesting that once Hayker made known that 4 scum is mentioned in the scum role, that codex immediately jumped off.

More like I thought he slipped up with the number of scum, following that it made sense to unvote him.

Out of interest for all of you on Hayker. Why exactly are you voting him?

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^

Good posting.

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I didn't realise you asked a question.

Yeah I am serious. kthxbai

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Scooby out of interest do you preferring playing as scum or town?

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You still haven't explained why Hayker DMS?

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@ DMS - And the Furry wagon?

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I've briefly skimmed the thing - the day vigs are retarded. I don't have a clue why the role cops claimed, though I don't disbelieve them at this point in time, the latter OAFE if he's scum then well my head will hurt - out of curiousity what do you make of his vote and there's a lot of bluster otherwise and swear words.

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A lot of people tend to blend into one. AKA - I skim. I see a lot of pages about theory, role claiming, mass claiming. I'd need to do things properly like spend a good hour doing some reading, taking notes, seeing whether Shotgun is playing to his aggressive swearing meta, maybe today kay.

FWIW having briefly looked at your ISO I think your probably town. As such I should probably sheep you until I can be bothered to put 100% effort in.

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I can actually deliver whatever alignment if I put the desired amount of effort in. Be a bit too easy to read meta wise otherwise.

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@ CodeX, inte, onceandforever, if you had to pick between Furry and Hayker right now, where would your vote go?

Hayker.

I've no interest in lynching a claimed PR.

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VOTE: CODE

Why did you vote Petapan?

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3 town cops?

Really..........

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Because he might be lynchable and is not Hayker

Desperate much?

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Ok.

Some quick thoughts as I really should start putting some effort into this game. I appreciate it’s not been particularly helpful.

We have two claimed role-cops (OAFE + Furry). We have two claimed cops (Hayker + Inte). Not sure I believe all of them. I’m in two minds whether to lynch one of the role-cops. Inte’s claim is this a joke? Hayker’s claim under pressure could easily be scum fake-claiming to survive.
We also have two proven Day Vigs (Natalie + Salamenca) who are town.

That leaves:

Scooby, Roflcopter, I am Innocent, Nobody Special, Petapan, Tammy, Kondi, Shotgun.

Of that lot.

Nobody Special – against the mass-claim, votes Furry because of it. Votes Hayker to lynch-1 which is opportunistic. Then shifts on to Furry. What are these reasons in 370?

Scooby – also against the mass-claim, votes Furry for suggesting it. 263 is a pretty decent point mind looking back. Moves Furry onto retarded townie wants him lynched tomorrow if he’s isn’t killed. Lining up lynches. Lot of town reads in 434 with no actual elaboration. Nor really why I’m scum but whatever. Accuses previous retarded scum Furry of then being flailing scum. Not too sure in all honesty about this slot. I’ve some meta on town Scooby from Playground Mafia. Where he was actually more useless than he is here (it is possible) and he was a strongman vigilante.

Tammy – Replaced thetrollie who didn’t post. I like her entrance. I’d like to see her spread her wings a bit and focus on others bar Furry/Hayker. Too quiet bar the big wall..

Kondi – 120 strikes me as pretty townish. I don’t see why scum would offer themselves up as a possible vig target. Kondi thoughts on things recently? You have been pretty quiet since the shit hit the fan with the vigging.

Shotgun – Also offers to be shot…. Wants Peta shot for no real reason apart from the fact he’s good as scum. Says he isn’t aware of mafia rolecops. Really DMS? His vote on me seems legit. I’ve no problem being voted if I’m being completely useless. Which I was/am. His latest posts wittering on with Kondi are pretty pointless..

I am Innocent – Also not a fan of the mass claim. Votes Kondi for his day vig stunt. 371 is a good post. IAI – why am I scum exactly? Sounds like your just sheeping others here.

Roflcopter – Split didn’t post. Rofl doesn’t like the massclaim. Has pretty much ignored a lot of people bar Furry, Hayker and Me. Again why am I scum? Banded with the others.

Petapan – Disagrees with massclaim. Logical point - says Furry is town 25. Peta’s reactions to the shots/claims feels the most genuine to me. Pretty pissed off and the like. Remainder of his posts feel legit town to me.


I’ll be honest with you I expected more scum reads. Which ain’t great……. Admittedly.

Ah fucking hell.

Looking at the votecount.....

The Hayker wagon has more town reads. I'm not sure whether I want to lynch Hayker but I'd be far more confident in scum being off that wagon if he flips town. The Furry wagon looks to me more scum driven, though again depends on his flip. At this point I think we should lynch one or the other especially with an imminent deadline.

Given that I think we should lynch either Hayker/Furry (you guys can make a decent case on me by all means -

but it will be scum driven and there isn't one bar I've been fucking useless up to this point

.)

VOTE: Hayker

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"Shrug" - I see your point that it seems pretty bad but with a 24 hour deadline due what other choice is there? We've only read had two wagons. Because the majority of this day was due to blathering around with fake day vigs and real day vigs and rolecops, potential massclaim and what not. Not your standard day one situation and especially not with quick deadlines and useless lurkers (me included)

I wouldn't normally advocate a no-lynch but in this current situation with claimed PRs everywhere, of whom need testing and two people dead already today - albeit with little interaction with anyone that it's probably not the worst suggestion in the world.



@ Tammy - "but it will be scum driven and there isn't one bar I've been fucking useless up to this point"

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Results?

Hayker/OAFE

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Either of you have a shot left?

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VOTE: COde
Obvscum.

Why exactly?

Instead of being useless perhaps make a legitimate argument.

Waiting on Hayker.

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They wouldn't roleblock the suspicious second Rolecop over the Cop.

They would though if Hayker is scum.

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@ DMS - yesterday admittedly. Stop being derp.

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We wait for Hayker before anyone gets lynched.

He needs to get his rear in here.

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VOTE: Nobody Special

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Why would scum role block a rolecop ahead of a normal cop? From what I can tell the role cop is pretty useless (especially when 2 day vigs have claimed and another town PR is dead) where as a real cop obviously should be a bit more of a threat to them? Why would scum feel more threatened by OAFE than Hayker? And why would they kill Peta ahead of two PRs without a Doc/JK about.

NS, Scooby, Tammy. Good chance of scum in here.

However, I think one of OAFE, Hayker is a lieing sack of turd.

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I know you started off the game raging at Kondi, but you then posted this in 187

More convinced than ever that kondi is town.

As a claimed VT, why would they then assume you'd check him out? You didn't make it clear you'd be going for him and logically considering you said he was town and he claimed VT makes no sense why you'd check him. The last thing you said about him day one was the above bar asking Hayker his opinion on the slot.

Edit - yeah Hayker makes much more sense to check.

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Your wrong on one of your reads.

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I don't disagree with your other three though.

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hey guise i think code should die now.

so lets just do it. no reason. just lets kill him.

Wrong on so many levels.

Unfortunate considering I think your town.

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@ I still don't get the joke

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If you want go 1 on 1 against me fine. But you'll be dead tomorrow.

Now NS, Scooby, Tammy. I fancy your chances.

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She could very well be scum. Though NS is a better choice.

As I say you lynch me with the premise of accepting your own lynch if I flip town. You'll be dead tomorrow. Which in our current situation isn't a smart move.

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@ NS - do you think Kondi is scum?

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My gut is telling me Kondi is town. Town wouldn't offer themselves up to be shot - whatever Rofl's argument about WIFOM. Also don't see scum offering themselves up as 1v1 in this scenario.

My gut is also telling me that the bookie has had a little bet on Kondi being strung up today. Scum have come in today and basically zeroed in on him.

Everyone voting him needs to have a damn good reason for voting him that includes you NS you giant sack of uselessness. Look at the majority of reasons for voting him. Piss poor..... At this point I'd rather be lynched than Kondi.

Looking at OAFE, Rofl, NS, Tammy, DMS

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It says nothing that could prevent some of them from being combined.

He's being stupid. And your being even more stupid..

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furry (8) - tammy, roflcopter, nobody special, inte, i am innocent, scooby, kondi, salamence

Tammy, Rofl, NS - need death.

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Just like your furry - hayker - code scum team. Spot on Sherlock!

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Why do you basically brush off his argument against your pretty baseless attack?

Why do you ignore IAI's question about your vote?

We're not lynching Kondi today period. Too many people have voted him with too few/flimsy reasons. You leading the way then your band of merry men. OAFE, Tammy, DMS, NS. The wagon is scum filled to the extreme.

Townies also ought to read 531 and vote the scum bag. Time to cut the head off the snake.

VOTE: Roflcopter

If we have a vig. Do me a favour and take out NS. There's a cookie in it for you.

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Your at lynch -1 are you purposefully trying to piss me off?

Why am I scum?

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And you think everyone has good reason to vote you yeah?

As far as town points go. Not sure if anyone bar the day vigs deserve any. And they are retarded for shooting their loads. Could have done with some bullets today.

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1. scooby - scummy/useless
3. roflecopter splitfarvle - scum - pushing this anal case on Kondi
4. i am innocent - fuzzy/leaning town. Will probably have to re-read
6. nobody special - scum. Aware his meta is always fucking useless but look at his votes. Also more bitchy as scum from reading games. No actual reason for his vote just boards another bandwagon like the Furry lynch.
8. onceandforever - claimed role cop, claimed blocked.
9. salamence20 - day vig
11. code_x - town obv
12. tammy thetrollie - scummy ... again no real argument for zeroing on Kondi bar he's done a list of town/scum reads.
13. inte - hayker has innocent on
14. natalie - day vig
15. hayker - claimed cop, still alive, still useless.... scum didn't bother blocking more dangerous cop
16. kondi - town, confident scum are jizzing off on him here.
17. drmyshotgun - DMS is much more active and aggro as scum. Reads as his town meta. But I've seen him play a lot better and his lynch-1 vote on Kondi is shit.



Rofl, NS, Tammy, Scooby. Top of the pops for the scum team.
OAFE/Hayker - ergh.. Would lean towards OAFE as scum. Do we really think Kanye would put in two town role cops?

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Hey Kondi lynch me then sheep my reads please. Thanks.......

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You have one major glaring error though....

And you think Rofl is town.

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@ Kanye - That vote count is wrong. Tammy is on Kondi.

@ Kondi - By that time scum would have won.

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Kondi - Do you think anyone who defends you is automatically scum?

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Not really. Two mislynches?

PEdit: No?

Working on the basis that 13 of us alive.

Town lynched today. 12 left -say the bookie guesses right two kills tonight.

Wake up 10 tomorrow.

Lynch Code town say - 9 left.

A kill 8 left, so if we've not lynched a scum by then we're pretty fucked................

@ Kanye - cool bro thanks.

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In fact we're probably already pretty fucked.

if there's a bookie in this setup which is possible then scum will not be trying to distance, they'll all be trying to lynch the same person ....

Cue votes on Kondi = scum team or at least 75% of it.

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So like ....

Anyone care to say anything?

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I give up with you morons.

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Rofl needs more votes.

Totally ignores everything that anyone raises against him.

Just keeps sitting there egging more votes on Kondi for no real reason. Joined by his band of merry men - OAFE (two rolecops lol - not he was also pretty happy to push Vigs onto DV, Shamrock - I need to read back that little section but it's not protown to encourage death so early in the game), NS (needs death 1000 times), Tammy (who has now decided she may look better to distance a bit).

Scooby has gone into complete lurk scared of posting mode.

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codex, why would OAFE counterclaim a real rolecop if he was a fake?

God knows. Not a lot makes sense. Why for instance would Furry even claim ... I'd agree it makes practically no sense for scum role cop to claim. But then again it practically makes no sense for scum to block a role cop ahead of a claimed cop.

Which cop is more likely to be lying? The one that CC'd a real rolecop, or the one who claimed under threat of being lynched?

I don't know. Though say we lynch Kondi - and both survive the night then what?

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@ MOD - V/LA for next 48 hours. Working away with little or no internet access.

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unvote Hayker
vote Furry

That is 5 votes vs 5 votes. Hoping both are scum, but if only one is, these next few votes should be telling.

Indeed. Very telling ...

Rofl is scum.
IAI is scum.
Scooby is scum.

Still meh about Tammy.

NS is town. Yeah I know .......

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VOTE: Roflcopter

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So you think kondi is town, which if there was a bookie this game, he seems like the target yesterday. Yet I pushed hard for Hayker all yesterday, Scooby did as well, and yet NS who voted Kondi (and Furry D1) is town.

Please explain.

NS I feel is town based on Hayker's posts more than anything. Could be wrong of course....

I need to read yesterday properly because we have the Kondi wagon against the GF lynch and we also have the Furry town lynch against the GF wagon to analyse. Will check those votes out... Scum will be on Furry/Kondi wagons.

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living playesr:
1. scooby
4. i am innocent
6. nobody special

8. mattp onceandforever
9. toogeloo salamence20
11. code_x

12. tammy thetrollie

16. kondi

17. drmyshotgun

IAI - think is actually town reading Day 2.
Scooby - I'm torn on somewhat but he could easily have voted Kondi ahead of Hayker. So he's either bussed Hayker for cred - possible but seems pretty suicidal as scum. As such don't want to lynch today.
Tammy - Matt makes good points on. Votes are piss poor, her play seems pretty sub-standard considering a few of the games I've read she normally appears to be town.
NS - Hayker's spat against him places him a few spots higher up the town pile. Likewise his Hayker vote. Though his previous vote on Kondi after Rofl calls people out for not voting/contributing is scummy.
DMS - This guy I think is probably scum. Also votes Kondi day 2 ahead of Hayker. If there are scum on Rofl's wagon its him.

Strike outs are town.

DMS/Tammy would be my leading choices.

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theres been one vote since my last vc~

d1 votecount 10

hayker (6) - scooby, petapan, natalie, salamence, kondi, drmyshotgun
furry (4) - roflcopter, nobody special, i am innocent, tammy
scooby (2) - furry, codex
inte (1) - hayker
drmyshotgun (1) - inte
petapan (1) - onceandforever

not voting -

prodding timeater

You still haven't explained why Hayker DMS?

Wagon looks filled with Towns.

Interesting observation.....

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VOTE: CodeX

Funny.

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You explain why and I may not fall off my chair laughing ..

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I'm not saying any of my other reads unless explicitly asked

Care to share?

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VOTE: Tammy

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VOTE: Nobody Special

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Nice one!

Good work men.

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Tammy, Rofl, NS - need death.

Sometimes I should stick with my gut.....

And be less lazy day one or replace into more games

Well done Matt nailed them at the end.