Matt, I'll give you this vote today if you give me Mhork's head tomorrow. AP, arguing with MattP is unnecessary unless you're going to make a major push on him today; please stop because all it's doing currently is clogging up the game unnecessarily. Mantis will be likely posting a real post soon, I am a bit busy now.
NY 161: Overly-Posh Mafia (POSH WIN - NIGHT X)
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Vote: I Am Innocent
Matt, I'll give you this vote today if you give me Mhork's head tomorrow. AP, arguing with MattP is unnecessary unless you're going to make a major push on him today; please stop because all it's doing currently is clogging up the game unnecessarily. Mantis will be likely posting a real post soon, I am a bit busy now.-
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In post 1883, Dreams of Grandeur wrote:Vote: I Am Innocent
Matt, I'll give you this vote today if you give me Mhork's head tomorrow. AP, arguing with MattP is unnecessary unless you're going to make a major push on him today; please stop because all it's doing currently is clogging up the game unnecessarily. Mantis will be likely posting a real post soon, I am a bit busy now.
agree here.
i'm not even exactly sure why AP and Matt are arguing, since they both are (probably) town.
i am innocent is a good vote though.-
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In post 1888, UberNinja wrote:In post 1883, Dreams of Grandeur wrote:Vote: I Am Innocent
Matt, I'll give you this vote today if you give me Mhork's head tomorrow. AP, arguing with MattP is unnecessary unless you're going to make a major push on him today; please stop because all it's doing currently is clogging up the game unnecessarily. Mantis will be likely posting a real post soon, I am a bit busy now.
wait, i missed something
who is this
subbing in for herobrine.-
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In post 1886, Vifam wrote:Introduce yourself just don't waltz into the game
hydra of nacomamma and mantisdreamz
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In post 1897, Maestro wrote:In the future, mantis, I would prefer you PM me as soon as your Hydra account is activated.
Very bad form to post before any announcement, in my view. I'm kinda pissed, but whatever.
Go ahead...
sorry maestro, i know it was bad form.
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In post 1900, pirate mollie wrote:In post 1895, Lord Mhork wrote:So is herobrine getting replaced then?
that was kind of mentioned at the start of the day
hi dreamz, hope you guyz are not scum, I am feeling a little bloodthirsty right now
well, i've got you as town.
want to go from there?
there's a group of ppl i think are town.
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In post 1902, AngryPidgeon wrote:Reads list now Nacho go. Just gut, fast as you can.
nacho is not here.
i'll give you mine though
you town
mollie town
uber
vifam
om
MattP
majiffy
zabriel
(mozamis)- unsure
bork
IAI
AJ
Jacob
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In post 1907, AngryPidgeon wrote:It would appear I was right about Rob being town.
also Nacho is totally lurking, lol. I see him.
i don't know if he is so much lurking.
this is his slot too.
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In post 1913, pirate mollie wrote:In post 1905, Dreams of Grandeur wrote:In post 1902, AngryPidgeon wrote:Reads list now Nacho go. Just gut, fast as you can.
nacho is not here.
i'll give you mine though
you town
mollie town
uber
vifam
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MattP
majiffy
zabriel
(mozamis)- unsure
bork
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AJ
Jacob
(pereV)
possible scum
I have mozi as town
why the fuck do you have om/arc in your town pile
what do you think of last night's battle royale
why does your list look like typical go with de flow scummy mantis?
oh god I am going to feel like shit if you are the best lynch option for the day I am the one who recommended you 2 to maestro
i had mozamis as town. nacho had him as scummy. hence the unsure.
i posted my list to angry pidgeon. who hasn't really responded yet, but i think he is still town. bitmap, was my first town read while reading the thread.
just for transparency i've read 1-33, and then the last 4 pages.
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In post 1915, TheReverend wrote: It's weird how quickly you've been developing reads, almost like you already know what alignment everyone is. So yeah, suspicious of you too.
see last post of mine.
i've read up to about 33 pages. the subbing was brought up to me about 2 nights ago. the only issue was getting an alt. so i've been following the thread since.
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In post 1920, TheReverend wrote:Ok I can buy you've been reading up while waiting for hydra to activate, so you can be null.
Pidgeon though, first thing he did was buddy up to me and point the finger at zab. Alarm bells are ringing. Matt is such a bad lynch this early, and he's tunneling him. So not convinced AP is town by any means.
pedit - I just don't normally see people replace in and within minutes of making first post, have a long list of reads. But like I say, I buy your response.
where did AP put suspicion on zabriel?
and did he put suspicion on Matt?
what i'm saying is that matt and zab look town.
angry pidgeon does as well, which is why it's weird that he would fos them-
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In post 1913, pirate mollie wrote:why the fuck do you have om/arc in your town pile
not entirely sure and probably have to look into that.
what do you think of last night's battle royale
is that with you and uber?
why does your list look like typical go with de flow scummy mantis?
tell me more. or.. how it does appear that way
oh god I am going to feel like shit if you are the best lynch option for the day I am the one who recommended you 2 to maestro
i figured it was you. which i appreciate. and maestro brought it up to both of us, and then we decided to do the hydra instead.
after reading, i had a town read on you, and also after seeing you and hero go neck to neck, i was looking forward to subbing in, and showing you that this slot is actually town.-
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In post 1926, pirate mollie wrote:In post 1922, Dreams of Grandeur wrote:where did AP put suspicion on zabriel?
and did he put suspicion on Matt?
lol
what i'm saying is that matt and zab look town.
angry pidgeon does as well, which is why it's weird that he would fos them
more lol
also you made it out like nacho was not around and then gave a list of your own reads yet nacho said he was sus of mozi so do you see the problem I have with this
nacho said he was sus of mozi.
before that, i had him as town.
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In post 1925, TheReverend wrote:In post 1922, Dreams of Grandeur wrote:where did AP put suspicion on zabriel?
and did he put suspicion on Matt?
what i'm saying is that matt and zab look town.
angry pidgeon does as well, which is why it's weird that he would fos them
Read his posts.
As for majiffy, I don't know. I have no reason to call him town or scum, so null. I've played once with him before, he was town, and he seems a little more laid back here, but I don't expect his mood to be determined by his role.
alright, i thought that i had read quite a few of his posts, (AP), and he seemed town.
that's why i was asking you what you are seeing with AngryPidgeon to indicate that he was not town.-
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In post 1930, Majiffy wrote:In post 1925, TheReverend wrote:I've played once with him before, he was town, and he seems a little more laid back here
Probably because we're not at each others' throats like crazed hyenas.
In post 1928, Dreams of Grandeur wrote:nacho said he was sus of mozi.
before that, i had him as town.
that's why i said unsure.
Let me help you out;
Nacho and I have the same read on a player?
You should probably go with it.
you think mozamis is scum??
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In post 1934, pirate mollie wrote:In post 1927, Dreams of Grandeur wrote:In post 1913, pirate mollie wrote:why the fuck do you have om/arc in your town pile
not entirely sure and probably have to look into that.
what do you think of last night's battle royale
is that with you and uber?
why does your list look like typical go with de flow scummy mantis?
tell me more. or.. how it does appear that way
oh god I am going to feel like shit if you are the best lynch option for the day I am the one who recommended you 2 to maestro
i figured it was you. which i appreciate. and maestro brought it up to both of us, and then we decided to do the hydra instead.
after reading, i had a town read on you, and also after seeing you and hero go neck to neck, i was looking forward to subbing in, and showing you that this slot is actually town.
the battle royale was with uber/majiffy/vifam/borky/me and AP trying to mediate.
when did you realise that I did not have that slot as town? when rob and I were fighting I had him as town but it changed towards the end of the day.
what were nacho's other reads I am sure mozi was not the only one
i think i might have missed the battle royale then. what pages did that happen on?
well, i read from the first 30 pages, and it seemed like you guys were at odds with each other.
so i saw for certain that he had you as scum. you seemed to have him as town, but still challenged him.
either way, i was hoping to put an end to that. and then work from there.
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In post 1935, Majiffy wrote:In post 1932, Dreams of Grandeur wrote:you think mozamis is scum??
If you read any of my posts, or saw where my vote was... you'd know this.
the game is 72 pages. really?
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In post 1944, Majiffy wrote:NachoDreams: I mention Moza 27 times in my ISO, out of 197 total posts. That's a good 7.3% of my posts.
want to give a summary of why (he is scum)?
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In post 1953, AngryPidgeon wrote:I am quite confident that Rev is scum. Call it an epiphany. When something seems odd, and so many small things click into place? Ya. I've been ignoring him all Day. We should seriously lynch Rev., I will make any sig bet on the flip.
i don't like his first post-
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In post 1964, pirate mollie wrote:In post 1946, pirate mollie wrote:hey mantis what were nacho's other reads
not entirely sure up this point.
but before:
IAI, AJ, peveV, Lord Mhork, Jacob Savage. (moz)
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In post 1961, AngryPidgeon wrote:In post 1915, TheReverend wrote:I think Mhork is scum because he's playing dumb pretending to not know hero got replaced, and he's trying to get arc lynched, who's pretty much obvtown after that ridiculous hammer. They don't want to waste a NK on arc, do they?
Seriously, FFS, read this sentence. This is not a town train of thought. Mhork is faking not knowing about Rob...for some really devious reason...and trying to get OBVTOWN AA9 lynched because they dont want to NK her. Who the fuck would NK town-AA in this game? Worst scumteam ever.
No, we are seriously lynching Rev. ISO him. Hes really not town. I promise.
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In post 1972, pirate mollie wrote:In post 1966, Dreams of Grandeur wrote:In post 1964, pirate mollie wrote:In post 1946, pirate mollie wrote:hey mantis what were nacho's other reads
not entirely sure up this point.
but before:
IAI, AJ, peveV, Lord Mhork, Jacob Savage. (moz)
^don't take that as fact.
interesting cos that looks like the list you posted earlier which you pushed as your own.
they are all low participants and easy lynches
you are scum mantis aren't you
no, out of them, they do look likely.
i'm focused in on angry pidgeon and trying to see if his and rev's conversation is town on town. or otherwise.
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In post 1970, AngryPidgeon wrote:What possible scum motivation is there for Mhork to fake not knowing Rob was getting replaced?
Why is it more likely that he is specifically faking it than genuinely not knowing?
1st sentence -none really.
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In post 1978, Dreams of Grandeur wrote:In post 1970, AngryPidgeon wrote:What possible scum motivation is there for Mhork to fake not knowing Rob was getting replaced?
Why is it more likely that he is specifically faking it than genuinely not knowing?
1st sentence -none really.
rev putting him as scum for that is a bit of a stretch.
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In post 1979, pirate mollie wrote:In post 1974, Majiffy wrote:ITT Mollie is slowly coming around to my line of thinking.
erm no
itt you are treating dreamz as town, me as unsure (lol) and you are wanting to lynch a 98% town read of mine so where the fuck you are drawing that conclusion is beyond me
how about mozamis isn't lynched today?
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In post 2053, pirate mollie wrote:get an avatar
there
also i wasn't intentionally dodging questions. i came into the thread, tried to reach out, asked what your reads looked like.
i probably have to do a bit more reading. the beginning was a lot of vifam, boner/matt, bitmap & moz who all looked town to me.
i reread where boner faked a day cop on om. what were your thoughts on it at the time?
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In post 2166, Vifam wrote:In post 2157, TheReverend wrote:Does anyone have moz as a town read?
*Raises hand*
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In post 2163, pirate mollie wrote:In post 2160, Vifam wrote:Being antitown doesn't necessarily mean you're scum
I agree to some extent but fake claiming as town usually ends up with outing specials so wtf. there is no town motivation behind that
I am in a game filled with jeromes
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In post 2168, AngryPidgeon wrote:In post 2165, Dreams of Grandeur wrote:i reread where boner faked a day cop on om. what were your thoughts on it at the time?
the thing that bugs me about it is that om didn't say anything like "you're lying" to him.
Matt fakes bullshit all the time and everyone knows it.
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In post 2054, AngryPidgeon wrote:In post 2051, Maestro wrote:Activity Status: Posh
Avatars are SO posh.
Dreams/Mollie, opinion on Lord Scumbag?
not sure, but maybe scum?
i was just agreeing with this post looking bad:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p4703606
(on his part)
i haven't even seen a post yet from arc this game, so i'll iso her. but, i've seen her hammer as town before.
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In post 2079, MattP wrote:Can I look at relational tells before the day ends please?
Thank you
Also in my last game I died for dumbass reasoning in meta mafia so I want doc protection goddamn
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In post 2212, MattP wrote:In post 2210, Dreams of Grandeur wrote:doc protection? didn't you just say that you fake claimed?
That was when I thought IAI was confirmed scum and I thought I was awesome and wanted doc protection, are you seriously questioning that? You're supposed to be good
i'm still catching up. just passed the 'i feel like an idiot' post. so yea, i probably should have read further.-
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In post 2189, AngryPidgeon wrote:Yes, but its more ridiculous to assume that IaI/Matt are town.
IaI decided to out his PR (which is the strongest in the game) in a mere 17 minute span after a lurkaderp bullshitter claimed a GS on him? Who does that? Add in the fact that Matt had already faked a bs daycop on OotN and IaI isnt even REMOTELY suspicious?
He just claims cop? What if Matt was town and faking? What if Matt was scum and faking?
IaI is either seriously bad at this game, or is mafia
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In post 2218, AngryPidgeon wrote:Nacho, just vote matt plz and thx.
<- mantis posting right now.
nacho should probably take over to give his opinion on this.
boner/matt looked pretty town at the beginning of the game. plus, why would he fake that as scum? are all things that point to him just being town.
BUT
fakeclaiming gunsmith, if IAI was actually scum, was only going to result in IAI claiming vig, or something of the sort.which then risks the actual vig or cop counter claiming him and outing themselves.which ends up being a pretty anti town move on matt's part.
so yea.
plus his vote on me because 'oh, look at his/her 1st 10 posts, is kind of shitty.
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In post 2186, AngryPidgeon wrote:And you think its more likely that IaI is town and decided to snap claim cop in response to a known bullshitter saying he had a gun. Who, in this game even, faked a daycop on Om?
Is Iam Innocent pants on head dumbass? If yes, then ok. Otherwise, they are a team.
Unvote
This is the worst reasoning that I've ever seen in my life. I am sorry, but this makes absolutely no fucking sense whatsoever. I am going to finish reading right now, but take a step back and reanalyze because your head is too far up your ass in order to see anything. Lord.-
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In post 2236, Vifam wrote:Yeah this is dumb
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In post 2227, AngryPidgeon wrote:
P-edit: IaI has a crumb. If this was planned at all, then of course he will have that much ready to go.
i don't know about IAI and Matt being scum together, just based on the fact that IAI claimed shortly after. that doesn't seem like enough to say with certainty.
^had that to post.
nacho's taking over from here-
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In post 2214, MattP wrote:Ok, read Grandeur's first 10 posts, and saw who he replaced. I'm going here
VOTE: Grandeur
sorry babe, you need me this round. if the dead list isn't flooded with scum by like day 4, then you can take care of me.-
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In post 2250, AngryPidgeon wrote:In post 2247, Dreams of Grandeur wrote:i don't know about IAI and Matt being scum together, just based on the fact that IAI claimed shortly after. that doesn't seem like enough to say with certainty.
I never said that is why they HAVE to be scum together, otherwise I wouldnt give a shit about which one I want to lynch today. Holy fuck.
Mattp is scum for his overall play. This gambit is noting special for him. IaI is suspect for outting his PR forno fucking reason whatsoever.How is this hard to understand.
pidgeon if you want to cooperate with me this round then you have to stop saying stupid shit
you are better than this-
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In post 2253, AngryPidgeon wrote:Then tell me what is stupid about it.
"matt does ballsy shit as scum"
"IaI fakeclaimed in an obvscum manner"
"conclusion is that matt is scum who told IaI to fakeclaim cop immediately after he fakeclaimed a gunsmith guilty on him."
you're essentially equating ballsy with stupid, and deciding that even though Matt isn't scum if IaI isn't scum (based on your terrible, terrible theory) that Matt would be a good lynch for today. You decide that because Matt is ballsy, he does risky scum gambits for absolutely no reason whatsoever.
In post 2261, AngryPidgeon wrote:And Nacho, while you are here, do you not give a shit about Mollies's Matt vote?
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In post 2183, AngryPidgeon wrote:Guys. Think about this. Why did IaI claim 17 mins after Matt's post?
There is no way town IaI (who is barely present)
1. Saw the claim
2. Decided he should counterclaim immediately (since MAtt is known to BS, why not check first instead of outing yourself as the strongest PR in the game?)
3. Type up a full post.
How is that likely? We need to lynch Matt today.-
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In post 2269, AngryPidgeon wrote:Ive been calling matt scum for other reasons since the start of the Day.
i wouldn't know.
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In post 2272, AngryPidgeon wrote:I explicitly said that it was a nulltell for matt to fakeclaim back there BECAUSE people were saying it was a towntell. Did you just skim that or something?
sorry i thought you believed they were a team
meaning that the interaction would definitely be something to look at
and you have a scenario for that interaction being scum theatre
but since you are being completely reasonable
and calling IaI the only scum
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In post 530, UberNinja wrote:I am trying to be a good IC in another game, and I've had a long week at work, and also real life is kicking me in the ass, and honestly I really don't need that shit, especially from someone nowhere near as good as I consider myself to be (pompous asshole warning... watch out guys)
son i better not read any more complaining from you this game-
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Vote: ArcAngel
In post 1378, ArcAngel9 wrote:I am torn!!
I can't vote anyone.. I feel it is injustice to vote since i have not being part of game or discussion so far...
so... VOTE: no lynch No idea if that matters in anyway.
SLOW ROLL THIS SCUMFUCK-
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In post 2290, AngryPidgeon wrote:IaI, if you are a cop for the love of fuck investigate matt.
if you investigate matt, you get policy lynched
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In post 2296, pirate mollie wrote:hi nacho!
hey mollie!
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