NY 166: Knight-Errant 18p - Game Over!

[notscience]

VOTE: HD

Die.

[notscience]

VOTE: Notscience

Lynch all liars.

What did I lie about?

[notscience]

VOTE: Feg

[notscience]

How is Feg gonna stop the wagon from chugging along

Who knows???

a wall

[notscience]

VOTE: notscience

I claim supersaint

Discuss

[notscience]

Let me know when the annoying RVSkiddies are done so the adults can begin scumhunting.

no

[notscience]

Why isn;t there?

[notscience]

The Purple rose are you an alt

[notscience]

I have never been called a troll a day in my life!

[notscience]

No one isn't really standing out as a good vote right now which is unfortunate

Sheep me

[notscience]

VOTE: Baldrick

[notscience]

no I can't beast

I claim supersaint

lynch me

[notscience]

I'm not town I'm a supersaint jester.

[notscience]

dese bitchez

[notscience]

No shit he is, he's lurking the uck out of this game

[notscience]

Eddie, nice vote there

My mommy says I am too younger to vote

[notscience]

So we're scum for dicking around?

We're scum for PL reasonings.

Good to know.

[notscience]

^

[notscience]

./shitpost

[notscience]

My mommy says I can be anything I want to be when I grow up

I decided to become a pokemon

You're voting me for PL reasons when you have a scumread, which is scummy btw.

[notscience]

No, he's scum because his role PM says so

[notscience]

You seem mad evil

[notscience]

Yeah hd stop.being dead weight

[notscience]

Lol

[notscience]

You seem mad evil

He's pretty heated

Enflamed?

Beast breadcrumbing is for prs to do. You leave something hidden and udr it if/when you need to claim

Prople using fluffers as scumreads are probs scum btw

[notscience]

Yes

[notscience]

Well Feg, you know how you got a pretty role PM at the start?

Theirs had red letters in it

[notscience]

I never explain myself to scum

[notscience]

My special place?

[notscience]

That mafia like to push and make themselves blatantly obvious by doing so

^@Vifam

[notscience]

Bald, who is scum

[notscience]

lol

[notscience]

Hi

1 question

Are you scum

[notscience]

Yes

I claimed supersaint and noone voted me

People are flipping out on me and Vifam for no reason

BC is scum

That's bout it

[notscience]

Active lurking why?

[notscience]

Abdel wagon isn't bad but he comes off as just some guy that's really nervous to me, tbh

Why is he nervous before anything really happened, though?

Some people are just naturally nervous when they are not in a familiar environment

My first game my nerves got my mislynched

[notscience]

Stop WIFOMing beast.

[notscience]

"Well if I was scum I wouldn't do that and I did it so it means I'm not scum"

[notscience]

Why is he scummy?

[notscience]

Um Abdel

Wat

[notscience]

dopog you left me out

[notscience]

Beast am I town or scum to you, none of that fence BS.

[notscience]

People need to post reads pls

[notscience]

Katarina what do you think of me

[notscience]

VOTE: Katarina

[notscience]

Because it looks like to me she's trying to rolefish something fierce.

[notscience]

It's kinda jumbled atm

I'll let you know when they get more concise, I've expressed opinions on various people

[notscience]

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS

STOP THE FUCKING ROLEFISHING AND TRYING TO GET ME AND VIFAM SHOT >.>

[notscience]

Comments on the actual game, please.

[notscience]

Hey guys

Hi

We're apparently masons

[notscience]

Hey guys

Hi

We're apparently masons

[notscience]

God damnit HD

[notscience]

HD I'm going to scumread you until you say I'm town

[notscience]

HD stop being a scumread of mine

[notscience]

Why exactly am I scum?

[notscience]

What am I being defensive about?

[notscience]

lol

Im going to keep playing how I am

[notscience]

So, my play is distracting to you? You're asking for people to vote me on PL reasonings KX.

I'm being helpful, you clearly don't know how I work.

And I'm not fodder because you'd have to be a moron to lynch me over the obvscum in this game.

[notscience]

I claim mafia neighbourizer

I targeted Vifam n1

discuss

[notscience]

Vifam and I are doing the same things, why is Vifam scum and I am town?

[notscience]

Yes it was

Talk to me my masonbuddy

[notscience]

1) Why is Vifam scum

2) Why am I scum eddie. You have to give me a decent case or I'm just going to laugh at you

[notscience]

CANT YOU SEE IM BUSY WORKING HERE FEG

[notscience]

I WILL LATER SEEING AS WALLS ARE BORING AND SUCK

YOURE BETTER OFF ASKING JUST 1/2 PEOPLES ALIGNMENTS AND LETTING ME DO THAT

[notscience]

ABdel looks like noobtown and an easy ML

Roses is leaning town

Peregrine Evil did a meta check on me

[notscience]

Abdel's wagon is shit imo

[notscience]

Because all the nerves and shit are the exact same thing I did my first game where I flipped town. Go look at newbie 1354 and tell me it doesn't seem similar.

[notscience]

Yeah

Basically the nerves look p similar imo which is why I'm tuning it out. It's newbtown imo.

[notscience]

I wasn't even using selfmeta to explain my behavior rofl

[notscience]

I agree shattered

VOTE: notscience

[notscience]

Hey abdel you should get an avatar

[notscience]

Lemme know what you think Feg

[notscience]

Lol

[notscience]

Has he actually given any comments on anything

[notscience]

So

You don't think he's scum

And you want to PL him

VOTE: Katarina

[notscience]

If he's a scapegoat, doesn't that essentially mean he's easy mislynch fodder, aka town?

[notscience]

I'm still trolling you clearly aren't reading the thread

[notscience]

Everyone not posting content should start because only I'm allowed not to :>

[notscience]

Eh, probably not.

[notscience]

See, NS, given the fact that you are trolling and such, it makes me see you heavily as Anti-Town... And my gut just screams you as scum...

1) Antitown=/=Scum

2) If that's your case on me being scum you're probs scum without a logical townie reason for a vote

3) Give some content or else

[notscience]

Trust me fenix, if that's the only case you can bring before me, you're scum and I'll make you swing. I'm busy working on your buddy though.

[notscience]

I clearly don't have to looking at your reasonings why I'm scum. I could bring a marshmellow shooter and win.

[notscience]

See, NS, given the fact that you are trolling and such, it makes me see you heavily as Anti-Town... And my gut just screams you as scum...

That is your case against me

That is not a townie case. Why? Because townie cases don't revolve around someone trolling and being anti-town, that's scumpushed PLs.

Cheers, Scum.

[notscience]

GOD DAMNIT BC IT DOESNT WORK IF YOU SPELL IT OUT FOR THEM

[notscience]

So

You saw what I was attempting to do

To bait scum

and you tried to play around it

why?

because you're scum

Cheers.

[notscience]

Katarina is probsscum

She wrote a paragraph just for me to say null

[notscience]

She also thinks that she can use my selfvote and it will get her called town because people called me town for it

yeah she's scum and needs to swing

[notscience]

katarina why didn't you write anything about me

Only I can be that selfcentered

People need to stop gambiting me

[notscience]

Depends, do you have her as scum?

[notscience]

Then you're missing something

[notscience]

Your case on abdel is shit

welcome to the scumread

[notscience]

This is amusing me

Katarina, you're bleeding scum

From every orifice in your body

It's aboslutely hilarious

Also caughtscum is caught, admitting I was right due to fear of engagement

hmmm what else

Feg gimme your read on that game you checked, because these morons are mistaking noobtells for scumtells

[notscience]

While I do admit the selfvote was a little immature, I guess I just got carried away with http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Gambit that I went for whatever. Woke up the game a bit and solidified SV as my top-scumread.

This screams "ohshit town realized I was gambiting and bad so I have to cover my ass and pretend it was townie mistkae yayayayay!"

Hardly sucking his dick, he said he was reading it and seems to be the only other person here accepting that everything against abdel is newbtells rather than scumtells.

[notscience]

It's not my first Forum Mafia, it's just my first NOC.

Also I don't even know why I got paranoid like this just because of 3 votes. I realize my mistake. Sorry guys.

For now though, I'm keeping my vote on Concombre.

I know exactly what type of Mafia he used to play, which led to the same attitude in my newbie game.

You keep saying he's being scummy and every reason you're saying he's scummy is a newbtell, not a scumtell.

I don't want him set aside for VI, I just don't want scum to be able to push a PL on him.

Don't care about you bussing

You have nothing to talk about

You are doing all this for a PL regardless of what you say

Why the fuck do I want to give scum reasons to townread me? You already know I'm town

[notscience]

As are you.

[notscience]

Feg I'm still waiting for your conclusion about abdel

[notscience]

Lemme sum it up

When you go from that to this, the difference is huge and you make a whole lot of things people see as scummy unintentionally. He's getting scumreads up the wazoo here, that happened to me. It's newbie stuff, not scum stuff.

[notscience]

Everything people are trying to call scummy seems to be more newbie jitters. I had the same jitters and got a ML pushed on me because of it.

[notscience]

I'm not all that into cases tbh

Flailing isn't indicative of either alignment, newbies flail as both.

Look at Kat's readlist. She spent this whole paragraph on me to say null.

There's other shit I can't think of atm because I'm tired but yeah

[notscience]

What does PSA mean

This doesnt apply to me though right :<

[notscience]

Probably applies to people with less than 20 posts.

The activity does need to step up though, it'll help keep me motivated.

I'd rather have quality posts, rather than have a good quantity of posts tbh.

>quality

[notscience]

Well notscience, you get a paragraph because you use shitposting as a guise to immediately say that you're town.

You call it baiting and everyone seems to enjoy the idea of it. You say that you're town aligned yet you've not given anyone any reason to see so. Likewise with a scum tell. The reason you leaned towards scummy is because you buddied Abdel back there. ISO him, do it. His posts are scummy.

I don't know what forum mafia game you play to post faulty reads like those and not be scum.

You tell me how Abdel is clean. Go on.

That's because it's not forum mafia.

[notscience]

Katarina is probsscum

She wrote a paragraph just for me to say null

And you are not disputing one sentence of what she wrote? So her interpretation is, to your mind, an accurate one of you?

Nah

I'm just too lazy to waste my time refuting a scum's case

[notscience]

Buddying is not a scum tell.

Bullshit it isn't. Scum will use it to try and be less threatening to a player(s). Town will do it too, but a lot of times, it is a scum tell.

...

You jsut said it's a null tell

...

[notscience]

Meeps, you're either moronic town or scum

Which

[notscience]

hi ns mind going into more detail on why you dislike my posts

because you think abdel is scum for "scummy behavior" and "not knowing how to get out"

Which I myself have done as newbtown and have seen other people do that exact same thing

so

yeah

He doesn't need rope

[notscience]

MS can you stop being silly and post stuff with actual content?

Yeah MS

gtfo that's my job

[notscience]

Why is opportunistic? He was already voting you.

[notscience]

Bad reasons=/=opportunism, it's just bad reasonings.

[notscience]

@ER

SV is a hydra/alt

dunno which

But the person has been here a long time

[notscience]

There's a join date under the avatar. That might be assistance to you.

Your join date would lie in this case NS.

Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Got a legitimate reason for that vote?

[notscience]

That was all directed at NS

Vote Count 1.25

Shattered Viewpoint (4) - Abdelrahman, oriole, Katarina LeBlanc, PeregrineV
beastcharizard (2) - Concombre, Fegelein
Katarina LeBlanc (2) - notscience, The Purple Rose
Baldrick (2) - Metal Sonic, Human Destroyer
Abdelrahman (1) - meeps
dopog (1) - Baldrick
EddieFenix (1) - dopog
Evil Regals (1) - beastcharizard
notscience (1) - Shattered Viewpoint

Not Voting (3) - EddieFenix, Evil Regals, KX

Countdown: (expired on 2013-08-12 11:00:00).

18 alive, 10 to lynch.

[notscience]

Are you talking to yourself?

No

If you don;t know who I'm talking about then it's not directed at you

[notscience]

you guys wanna hear my big dirty secret??????

I really want to lynch Fegelein today but I'm worried about possibly losing a strong town asset
that and I don't think the wagon would achieve a lynch

<marquis>

Eh I'd generally be for that lynch if I hadn't meta checked him.

i'm just against his current read now, and I honestly think that SV is scum and should be lynched out today.

If you meta checked him, can you actually show us your results? All this says to me is "I'm going to make myself look town by saying I meta checked someone after people kept saying in the thread that ER's meta check was super town"

Feeling like I'm going to die tonight regardless of the lynch. Bring it on.

Why would you die

You aren't a universal townread

You aren't a universal scumread

lol

Wagon on Feg is bad

[notscience]

Seb you aren't on your hydra acc

[notscience]

Go bitch at him to post

[notscience]

Hush scrabble

[notscience]

We aren't PLing anyone @whoever suggested it, because PLs are bullshit.

[notscience]

Have none of you played with him before

[notscience]

lol

[notscience]

Hopkirk, your predecessor already admitted to being the SK. Some people in the town think it best to keep you, but I don't. Would you kill someone we specified tonight, or should we just lynch you now?

[notscience]

VOTE: hopkirk

[notscience]

hi

distancing

[notscience]

Biggest scumread is me, doesn't vote me

lololololol.

Also is misrepping the fuck out of me, I see. 1) It's the method in which they did it, after I already did it and saw I was getting towncred for it. 2) I've been defending Vifam for doing what I've done.

So, try harder hop.

[notscience]

@NS, people won't lynch town

@Hop, I agree that "scum wouldnt act so scummy" isn't a reason to call someone town. Meta is. Did you even read the thread? Because how it looks to me is, you're finding anything easy to push and calla scumread because you need someone to be a fallboy.

[notscience]

@Ns: I disagree that just because you do one specific thing when your town before means you always will- now that your scum you can do it to look town, changing your play is possible.

What have I done that's actually scummy in your opinion?

[notscience]

@NS
Trollish behaviour, constant content less posts, voting without ever justifying, hypocrisy (eg others need to give reads/post content). Tries to clean self by saying how he does this as town. Random sk stuff. Generally just every other post in the thread being his content less, hypocritical rubbish.

And you're misrepping

ER said I did itas town

whether you chose to believe it is your business, but that's all PL reasoning. I'm giving content, I'm taking stances. You're just scum looking for an easy scumread.

[notscience]

So

What you're saying is

1) I'm not giving content when I've asked questions

2) I'm not giving reads when I've called people scum

3) I'm being scummy for the above two

4) I will conciously change my meta

lol

[notscience]

Becoz Dat got me addicted to LoL

And lol, anyone who pushes my wagon is either a) Scum or b) moronic town

[notscience]

KX

Riddle me this

Are you stupid town or bad scum

Because honestly, you're all making this really easy for me to dodge the nightkills from scum

Also-

VOTE: Katarina

[notscience]

Honestly @dopog

You, BeastCharizard, NotScience, or meeps are high on my radar for the rope.

You can also answer my question about alignment

[notscience]

Feg put your vote on Kat

[notscience]

I feel like we've been over this before

Longest paragraph

still nullish

[notscience]

I feel like we've been over this before

Longest paragraph

still nullish

It depends, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt right there. I

can

bump it up to a scum read, clearly you have the capacity to give reads.

I just read Hop on Pop last week :>

[notscience]

Let me tell you a little secret

Get me some flips to analyze

Then I will get your reads

Not like it matters

You already know who your scumbuddies are

[notscience]

Honestly @dopog

You, BeastCharizard, NotScience, or meeps are high on my radar for the rope.

You can also answer my question about alignment

Which post was this?

Are you stupid town or scum

@NS, you're amusing me. You're saying you shouldn't be the lynch because you don't provide enough information. You have yet to give even a reason for me, and are asking or votes

You're lucky I want your scumbuddy first

[notscience]

k

Scum it is

[notscience]

Good job

Everyone follow this man's nice example

[notscience]

^that is true@feg

[notscience]

If you lynch me, I'll flip scum. It's that simple really.

FTFY

[notscience]

You're flipping scum, scum.

[notscience]

Kat needs more votes

I want to lynch scum

I prefer her over SV personally

[notscience]

Okay, that is admittedly a scummy post.

But meh

[notscience]

Um

SV's thing is more about not being able to analyze later

I've played with him as scum before

there was barely anything there too

[notscience]

Kat needs votes

[notscience]

So

KX

Are you scum?

[notscience]

;-;

Shhh

You are no fun

[notscience]

MS

Are you on drugs

Can I have some

[notscience]

dat loli

[notscience]

No I'm not scum

I agree who hates lolis wtf

ILLUMISE PIC PLS HANNAH

[notscience]

Troll more

trolling is fun

[notscience]

That is not illumise that is munchlax

;-;

[notscience]

Hi Hannah

[notscience]

No.

We can lynch SV.

We can lynch SV either way.

[notscience]

VOTE: Baldrick

[notscience]

Really, more people should sheep me.

Bald or ER is scum.

[notscience]

You played with him before scrabble?

[notscience]

Pere had ER in his scumreads yet never acted on it

[notscience]

Shattered Viewpoint (3) - Metal Sonic, Abdelrahman, Evil Regals
beastcharizard (2) - EddieFenix, The Purple Rose
Hopkirk (2) - notscience, Human Destroyer
meeps (2) - oriole, dopog
Human Destroyer (1) - Concombre
Metal Sonic (1) - beastcharizard
Abdelrahaman (1) - meeps
dopog (1) - Hopkirk
notscience (1) - Shattered Viewpoint

Can someone explain to me why I have 0 confidence in any of these wagons, even my own

[notscience]

VOTE: Beast

Nice job Scrabble

[notscience]

So, underhanded stab at me and buddying?

10/10 scumpost

Would read again

[notscience]

Metal, i expected more from you when voting someone.

[notscience]

Put more pressure on a newbie so they can flail and you can say it's a scumflail?

No.

[notscience]

Are you insinuating that putting pressure on the newbies is not going to be helpful because they are going to flail for the sheer fact that they are new?

Yep.

[notscience]

Yeah NS, why the naked vote

[notscience]

^lol

[notscience]

Hi oriole

[notscience]

UNVOTE:

[notscience]

His main has no qualms about hammering out of the blue

[notscience]

That said, Vote: NotScience, this still needs to happen. Will prob be making a case for it next post.

[notscience]

Why did it take you over 6 minutes to type that

[notscience]

Yes Beast.

[notscience]

@Beast

Time between your posts was 6 minutes, and the pedit would have been right as he posted it.

[notscience]

That said, Vote: NotScience, this still needs to happen. Will prob be making a case for it next post.

[notscience]

NS most of them don't know how to meta let alone who you are

[notscience]

So half the playerlist is scum

good to know

[notscience]

Only 4 of those reads are remotely decent

[notscience]

Because no one is going to follow a NotSci lynch atm.

Because everyone scumreading me is either bad town or scum

And they don't want to admit to either

[notscience]

Because no one is going to follow a NotSci lynch atm.

Because everyone scumreading me is either bad town or scum

And they don't want to admit to either

[notscience]

HD isn't a newb

That said, Vote: NotScience, this still needs to happen. Will prob be making a case for it next post.

[notscience]

Seb called you a noob not me

[notscience]

because here's the thing

Why would town need that long for such a short post?

It sounsd like he typed it up a few times trying to igure out how to make it sound townie

[notscience]

Yeah MS

It was kinda obv like a week ago

[notscience]

Yeah, scum won this one.

[notscience]

:active lurking, lack of committed or explained reads, exception a townie who you lynched, and hypocrisy on calling others out on the first two counts while you yourself are guilty of them. Note that none of these things are PL reasons

Active lurking-

I don't do things your way. I do them mine. That does not mean lurking, especially when in your "case" you edit the facts to help it.

Lack of committed/explained reads-

I've said who I find scum, what else do you need? Explanations are overrated anyways.

I have no clue what exception a townie means

Not really guilty of them, but nice try though

These are PL reasons.

And @Hop, Irdc if you do or don't, posturing about it is a waste of time and space in the thread.

[notscience]

Hey guys

I will scream my pl reasons aren't pl reasons to the sky

And tunnel with them

Why

Because it's easiest for scum to tunnel and avoid interacting with their teammates

[notscience]

I think I am town

What about you guys

[notscience]

Yeah this fucker notscience led the wagon

We should PL him for pushing a lynch on town

[notscience]

I want to lynch ns for PL reasons

[notscience]

VOTE: HD

[notscience]

I didn't give a reason

[notscience]

Scum/SK should kill KX because he'll kill whichever team he isn't on

[notscience]

Other mason should claim

[notscience]

....

MS why CC now

...

[notscience]

lol

KX is scum

But with who

[notscience]

KX, you aren't trying to lynch me and you're scum

Why should I give ANY credence to what you say

[notscience]

Mason isn't one of the PRs

Read the OP

We have one mason and 3 prs left

[notscience]

Nah, that condescension makes the case all on its own

[notscience]

VOTE: BC

Last post is a scumclaim, thanks for letting us know mafia has a BP

[notscience]

@NotSci, this is a question for you, answer it if you'll please. Why do you think Beast's error in #1284 is a scumclaim, but think his two voting failures against a scum don't make him scum. Also, another question, why did you say that the mason should claim earlier on? Didn't get around to that earlier on, but it was really a dumb move. If mason were to claim now, then they can be shot at freely by scum, while if they wait until they need to, they either get a scum lynched by counterclaiming, or have the same effect as claiming now but better since it guarantees they wouldn't be shot unnecessarily? Also, this may be a little rude, but are you scum, or just incompetent like most of this game seems to be? After my last game with you, I thought you were decent but with an annoying playstyle. But seriously, making simple logical failures like this is either the sign of n00bness, or an absolutely brilliant scum. And, tbh, I'm kinda doubting brilliant scum would get into your situation in the first place.

1) BRing it the fuck on scumfuck, I'm not scared of you

2) Mason claiming would give us conftown (assuming today didn't end fast) and claiming NOW would prevent a CC later on in the game.

3) He's obviously scum, seeing as he said MS is the SERIAL KILLER when he TRIED TO KILL

4) If you aren't scum you really need to stop, because it's fucking obvious

5) Don't even bother trying to call me a noob, your scumteam lost. Sit there and take it.