NY 170: Georgetown II (Game Over)

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/confirm

And

Vote: Garmr

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Whoever brought up multiball, and whoever followed that up with the big discussion about town win percentages in various size games, and whoever else participated in that circus side-show of a conversation, none of these things even remotely resemble scumhunting. It's all white noise that looks on the surface like helpful activity but is actually just a fine place for scum to hide. I'll have to go back and read it all later because my eyes glazed over the first time. I believe Sotty already called this out. Listen to her.

Emogirl wagon is like flypaper for easy, lazy votes.
Maenara, have you policy lynched (or tried to policy lynch) before as town? Can you link to a game where that has happened?
Albert, hi. Nice to see you. Speak up.
NS, hi. Am I interpreting your reference to "Maestro's townbloc" as a townread on Maestro correctly? If so, where are you getting that townread from?
More importantly the emogirl wagon is drawing votes away from garmr, which despite emo's insistence on townreading him (and saying that defending him is defending herself, which it isn't) is still the wagon we should actually be pursuing.

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I would support a Maenara lynch

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P-Edit @OGML: you never answered #246 AFAIK - why is Garmr > emo?

To restate, because Emogirl is an easy, lazy wagon attracting easy, lazy votes, the majority of which aren't even trying to state a case as to why she could be scum. And despite my disagreement with some of her positions I'm reading her as town.

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Chevre is the scummiest new vote on the emogirl wagon by a mile

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Unvote, Vote: Chevre

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Bulba can you give me your read of all players not named emo or garmr?

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I have trouble believing you thought it was scummy in the first place

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I have trouble believing you thought it was scummy in the first place

Do you think Chevre is town or scum?

I also have trouble believing you're paying this little attention. Check where my vote is at.

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Tebow is town but I too have stopped paying attention to the war of walls. Let's all put bulba on /ignore and carry on lynching Chevre. If Chevre is scum I expect one or more scum is still riding the emogirl wagon, but honestly everyone still on that wagon is looking some variation of scummy to me at this point.

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I think Albert is town. I have experienced the same malaise in some of my recent games. His emogirl vote was kinda scummy but his Chevre vote is good and is no reason to abandon the wagon.

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The problem with the Chevre vote is that it implies that jumping on emogirl without really adding anything new due to a self-proclaimed difficulty with getting going is scummy enough to vote for, whilst also, y'know, doing the same thing.

Not really. Chevre isn't scummy for jumping on emo without adding anything new. Chevre is scummy for jumping on emo while at the same time equivocating about not having a good read on emo but still insisting its a good vote (or some other BS idk I'm at work and not going back to read right now), then bailing on the vote pretty much the moment the heat got turned up on it.

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I haven't really followed the last 2 pages and am feeling distant from this game, I don't know why I can't get invested. Chevre's posts are scummy and I'm fine with his lynch. Hopefully we strike gold here and I'll get more motivated.

This is not a good reason to put someone at L-1. In your own words, how are Chevre's posts scummy?

I'm finding it hard to put into words how much I dislike this post.

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I really wish we had more than one lynch in a day because there are at least three people I'd like to see hang right now

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What exactly constitutes a "good" reason to put someone at L-1 then? And with so little content from Chevre in the first place I wouldn't be surprised if anyone found it difficult to come up with something novel and new about him. That ground has already been covered. Asking for how he's scummy "in your own words" is a trap. Basically there is no good answer to Bulba's query, it seems plain to me that he'll now have a scumread on ABR based on whatever answer he could come up, or his lack of an answer.

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ABR if Chevre flips town who will be your top suspect?

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How about off the wagon?

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Slandaar is on my scum shortlist too

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Only moreso because he is clearly following along enough to pop in at the first negative mention with an appeal-to-emoticon but is otherwise almost completely absent, and absolutely avoiding the major issues with his vote parked uselessly on a nonstarter

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Slandaar is on my scum shortlist too

and absolutely avoiding the major issues with his vote parked uselessly on a nonstarter

Why is he a non-starter?

it just feels outside of that he's done relatively nothing

3 walls; conclusion; 'lets lynch a lurker'.



also; Poor Fonzy.

All I'm getting frorm this is "In conclusion, let's try to disingenuously dismiss all criticism out of hand."

Unvote, Vote: Slandaar

Also point two above ^ is textbook straw man, straight up to snipping away the point he didn't want to deal with. But to answer the question you thought would let you avoid the rest of it, its a non starter because you put your vote there and prompty did nothing at all to get it started. Zdenek making a case on the same person and actually trying to do something about it does not absolve your sin of hiding on the sidelines sitting out all major discussion.

Chevre is town not for suddenly trying hard (that really should have happened without needing a major wagon to give you motivation) but because of the swarm of people already trying to lay blame for a chevre mislynch at the feet of ABR et. al. Somebody who *knows* he's town is feeding that fire.

NS is also very likely scum. That acidic taco vote is

bad[/b]. Once again, I wish I had more lynches in a day.

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Prod received. Back tonight.

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I'm some pages behind being fully read up but just skimming is enough to see that Yessiree dies tomorrow if Slandaar flips scum, and Slandaar is going to flip scum.

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Fonz, why is your vote not on emerald?

ABR, why is your vote not on Slandaar?

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Chevre is town not for suddenly trying hard (that really should have happened without needing a major wagon to give you motivation) but because of the swarm of people already trying to lay blame for a chevre mislynch at the feet of ABR et. al. Somebody who *knows* he's town is feeding that fire.

VOTE: OhGodMyLife

explain your bullshit, you can't just fling shit around then back down

clarify: swarm of people already trying to lay blame for a chevre mislynch

There may have only been two, I'm given to hyperbole and didn't actually go back to read anything at the time I made that post. Regardless, there was enough premature blame pinning for the imminent Chevre flip to trip my sensors.

@Everyone other than yessiree, go look at where his vote has been going ever since the Slandaar wagon really started. I'm surprised I'm the first one pointing this out. Unless I'm not the first one pointing it out, idk, I haven't read at least the last four pages in detail still.

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Chevre is town not for suddenly trying hard (that really should have happened without needing a major wagon to give you motivation) but because of the swarm of people already trying to lay blame for a chevre mislynch at the feet of ABR et. al. Somebody who *knows* he's town is feeding that fire.

VOTE: OhGodMyLife

explain your bullshit, you can't just fling shit around then back down

clarify: swarm of people already trying to lay blame for a chevre mislynch

There may have only been two, I'm given to hyperbole and didn't actually go back to read anything at the time I made that post. Regardless, there was enough premature blame pinning for the imminent Chevre flip to trip my sensors.

quotes or didn't happen

Sorry but I won't be doing this busywork for you right now

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Hello day two let me read you

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I'm some pages behind being fully read up but just skimming is enough to see that Yessiree dies tomorrow if Slandaar flips scum, and Slandaar is going to flip scum.

bump

Are you looking for anything in particular by bumping this post? Other than pointing out how wrong I was, in which case yes, I'm aware.

Similarly, and much to my chagrin, the Chevre wagon also seems soft - no-one except me was willing to fight for it.

I was fighting for it until my read of Chevre changed. He's now firmly in my town pile. I agree with the Sotty read coming out of the Slandaar wagon analysis. Something felt off about her yesterday that I couldn't quite put my finger on, but looking back it does feel like she was mirroring my positions at every opportunity.

Vote: Sotty7

ABR is town and I'm against the votes on him.
Also don't much like the votes for Zdenek.
Zekrom and NS are both fine votes and I would support either wagon if necessary, but I'm more interested in Sotty

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Any more theory talk below this line is an admission of being scum:

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