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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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What's up?
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Why would anyone policy lynch Maenara...In post 288, emogirl123 wrote:Maenara is a disguised policy lynch at best. Stating otherwise and trying to generate discussion on that point is nonsense and should be stopped.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Maenara isn't bad. At all. And it isn't a policy lynch. I don't see what you're implying.In post 295, emogirl123 wrote:Maybe my idea of policy lynch differs from others, but lynching someone over a null read because the player is bad is considered a policy lynch in my eyes.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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I haven't really followed the last 2 pages and am feeling distant from this game, I don't know why I can't get invested. Chevre's posts are scummy and I'm fine with his lynch. Hopefully we strike gold here and I'll get more motivated.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Chevre is a good day 1 lynch. You can't just run up everybody to L-3 and then freak out when someone places that player in danger of a lynch, then choose to disintegrate that wagon and bandwagon the new player. This is mountainous, we're not going to get a game-changing claim. Instead of getting caught in a circular suspicion loop, I say we lynch Chevre.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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First of all, Chevre is a guy. Second, I have a slow start, especially in large games. It takes me time to get invested into the game and then I'll start thinking about players, reading their posts and writing lists to make associations. I think Chevre's posts were written in a scummy way. You look at his posts and it looks like he's hiding something in a mountainous game. That's why my vote is on him.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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emogirl's confidence looks like it comes from a source of information that she has exclusive access to. She shouldn't be able to tell who's town or scum with that level of certainty unless she knows their alignment because she's scum.In post 538, yessiree wrote:Firstly, you calling out on emogirl being confident should result in a lynch struck me as odd.
Emogirl was misrepresenting the bandwagon on Manaera as a policy lynch. It was early enough in the game that multiple players had worst content than Manaera and there's no way that it looked like a policy lynch. If emogirl wanted to defend Maenara, to advance her agenda as scum, she would try to use any random argument, whether logical or not.In post 538, yessiree wrote:Secondly, when emogirl was making a stance to defend the Maenara wagon, your series of questions struck me as odd.
In post 299, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
Maenara isn't bad. At all. And it isn't a policy lynch. I don't see what you're implying.In post 295, emogirl123 wrote:Maybe my idea of policy lynch differs from others, but lynching someone over a null read because the player is bad is considered a policy lynch in my eyes.In post 302, Albert B. Rampage wrote:If she wrote a bad post, how does that make her wagon a policy lynch...In post 304, Albert B. Rampage wrote:By bad, do you mean scummy or anti-town?
I don't see what you were trying to achievement with this series of question directed at emogirl. Her intentions were clear to me at the start. Could you call the few gems that Maenara posted as good? the underlying intentions and motivations as town? No way. Therefore, can you policy lynch Maenara? Yes you can.In post 306, Albert B. Rampage wrote:So you're saying they are policy lynching her for pushing a policy lynch on you? That doesn't make any sense.
See, this is ironic, because you're attacking me with loaded language and a terrible line of questioning right now.In post 538, yessiree wrote: Thirdly, you attacked emogirl in #320 with a loaded language that is seen as spoken with haste.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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>Could you call the few gems that Maenara posted as good? the underlying intentions and motivations as town? No way. Therefore, can you policy lynch Maenara? Yes you can.<
This doesn't make any sense. If you think that an underlying intention is scummy, how can you then go and classify that as a policy lynch? You're voting them because you think their posts don't have a town motivation, which is the opposite of a policy lynch. You're defending emogirl using her own logic, which doesn't work, because it sounds like something she pulled out of the grass.
>Apart from this, why is lynching someone because he/she being overconfident is a good scumhunting technique?<
This question is loaded. I was voting for emogirl because she looked like she knew more than a VT would. She apparently knows that Maenara is town, based on the few posts you pointed out. I found that scummy. She shouldn't be that confident that Maenara is town, nor should she call her a policy lynch, it's contradictory and something that scum would say.
>Why do you dismiss the fact that a pro-town player cannot act with confidence as well?<
This is a blatant strawman. Do you actually want an answer?Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Why do you think that I said that I would suspect NS if you were town?In post 552, emogirl123 wrote:What? What are you guys talking about? No one gave a case for Maenara other than saying her posts are bad. Maestro quoted that post and said it was bad. Sotty and OGML both supported a lynch of her. I'm saying their reasons for doing so is a policy lynch at best since I gave an example of how the post in question could have came from a town mindset. No one explained why Maenara was scummy. I had the most votes at that time, and Maestro said my reasons for defending her were bad. If I were to lynch Maenara, it would be a policy lynch due to her post in question, since I didn't scum read that slot at all.
ABR what did you mean by overconfident? I misinterpreted, well at least I think I misinterpreted it at the time. I thought you were referring to my post count, which you didn't mention now. You say that my stance towards Maenara was overconfident, but NS shared a similar viewpoint but lacked a reason. How was I being more overconfident than NR when I gave a reason for townreading the slot when NR didn't?Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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@Sotty Why don't you read any large game I'm in and see if you buy it or not.
emo's wagon shouldn't be so difficult given how her posts are desperate and grasping, there's definitely some buddies pulling the strings here.
Slandaar / emogirl / emeraldon all look scummy to me.
Garmr is town. Yessir seems town in his motivation. Tebow/Fonz not sure.
Unvote, vote SlandaarGuard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Because I want to lynch Slandaar firstIn post 648, Bulbazak wrote:
If that's the case, why aren't you voting Emo?In post 647, Albert B. Rampage wrote: emo's wagon shouldn't be so difficult given how her posts are desperate and grasping, there's definitely some buddies pulling the strings here.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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OGML is basically a guy like me who hates reading walls or discussing irrelevant points in circles, and relies on a simpler form of scumhunting which boils down to checking who's operating in bad faith. Slandaar fits the bill for this.In post 683, yessiree wrote:
I'm waiting for him to explain thisIn post 658, Albert B. Rampage wrote:YS, why are you voting for OGML?
180 turn from Chevre scum to Chevre town, and the reason is apparently, since he thinks Chevre became a mislynch now, people who tried to defend his lynch were trying to lay blame to ABR et al. because "they're scum and know Chevre is town".In post 604, OhGodMyLife wrote:Chevre is town not for suddenly trying hard (that really should have happened without needing a major wagon to give you motivation) but because of the swarm of people already trying to lay blame for a chevre mislynch at the feet of ABR et. al. Somebody who *knows* he's town is feeding that fire.
Here you go: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=31972In post 684, yessiree wrote:
If you have the time, can you link me to a game where he's like what you described so we can compare?In post 682, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Because you usually have a trajectory, are more forceful, do less setup speculation and post more.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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You mean like this:In post 686, Slandaar wrote:I would have posted a lot more or at least thrown some nice town looking content out
In post 605, Slandaar wrote:
I assume this is meaning;In post 604, OhGodMyLife wrote: straight up to snipping away the point he didn't want to deal with.
Alright then I won't 'ignore' it; What exactly do you mean by sitting out all major discussions? Could you tell me GF's contribution to these major discussions?In post 604, OhGodMyLife wrote: does not absolve your sin of hiding on the sidelines sitting out all major discussion.
That doesn't mean its a non-starter just means I didn't push the wagon. What is the difference between that and lets just take a completely random example; GF's vote?In post 604, OhGodMyLife wrote: But to answer the question you thought would let you avoid the rest of it, its a non starter because you put your vote there and prompty did nothing at all to get it started.
Who are we talking about here?In post 604, OhGodMyLife wrote: Somebody who *knows* he's town is feeding that fire.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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I really couldn't care less about what you thought, but you're being as useful as nipples on a batsuit at the moment. If it's a lack of initiative or confidence I can't say. This isn't even about not enough posts or low content. You parked your unexplained vote on Goodfather 20 pages ago and asked us to sheep you on it without any further reference to him since then. You're not trying to pressure anyone, you're not helping bandwagons, what are you doing? Give me one good reason not to lynch you right now.In post 689, Slandaar wrote:So, what you are saying is, you think I am scum for not posting much (which I can disprove at anytime) and the content I have posted looks town?
Doesn't look good does it Albert?Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Even if I'm bad at explaining my reads, they're usually right on the money. Slandaar isn't that great a player that he will adapt his meta to every single player in the game as scum, although that would be hilarious if someone actually believed him on that. In actuality, Slandaar is the coward type who will crumble under pressure as scum. I'm surprised he hasn't replaced out yet, but he might as well have, with the content he's been putting out. This isn't a difficult decision, lynch Slandaar.In post 791, emogirl123 wrote:
This is true. ABR should not be using meta to push Slandaar's wagon. That was pretty bad of him.In post 686, Slandaar wrote:Meta, if I were scum here, I would have posted a lot more or at least thrown some nice town looking content out,I find it interesting you think I would not consider my meta in relation to others.
Unvote, vote SlandaarGuard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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FYI emogirl, even though his play is different from other games, that's not why I'm voting for him, and never was. It's his reactions and his posts afterwards that are appalling. And if he flips scum, you're next in my book.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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It seems like you don't remember me. Let me refresh your memory.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=31485
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=34696Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Because you made yourself a non-entity. If you had posted more content, you would have been easily caught. You replaced out before.In post 803, Slandaar wrote:I accumulated approximately 0 votes in those games,
It appears you are the one who misremembers.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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You didn't ask a question.
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Except I ignored nothing.
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I responded to your question but my post got caught in the simulposting. If you didn't spam the thread with one-liners, you might have seen it. Too bad for you.
Unvote Slandaar, vote emeraldemon
I'll be coming after you tomorrow.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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It's unpleasant when you go through all the trouble of quoting and copying and pasting, push submit and your post doesn't come through because someone ninja'd you and you thought it went through and you lost the entire post you wrote.
Cliff notes of my missing post:
You accused Brian of "obvious scum" and were voting for Goodfather. You called me "guaranteed scum" and voted for Brian. Why do you think there has to be a vote for you to be caught? If you had posted more content on either of the games I linked, you would have been run up in a second. You chose to barely show up and eventually replace out, so unless someone wants to be accused of lurker policy lynching, they were forced to ignore you. That doesn't make your situation any less precarious.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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I'm voting him for #652. I was originally the only vote on emeraldemon until Slandaar started acting up 2 pages ago and I wanted to see him go down, but emeraldemon is infinitely better than Brian and still preferable to Slandaar.In post 834, Garmr wrote:
Don't like this one bit. I looked backed and didn't see a direct response to it unless you mean this.In post 830, Albert B. Rampage wrote:...
I responded to your question but my post got caught in the simulposting. If you didn't spam the thread with one-liners, you might have seen it. Too bad for you.
Unvote Slandaar, vote emeraldemon
I'll be coming after you tomorrow.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Slight possibility Slandaar is trolling town.In post 884, OhGodMyLife wrote:
ABR, why is your vote not on Slandaar?In post 879, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Fonz, why is your vote not on emerald?Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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