NY 171: An Education in Telling Jokes (Game Over!)

[Malakittens]

VOTE: Mollie

Hi UT! Hi Deathnote! Hi Ythan! Hi Poro!

[Malakittens]

I like green crayons but it might possibly mean they are scum

How, I'm not really getting scum vibes off their posts.

Nor am I seeing what you see in Death or Elyse.

[Malakittens]

Here, catching up. What should I know before starting?

Mollie is scum.

[Malakittens]

Here, catching up. What should I know before starting?

Mollie is scum.

if you try to push this agenda you will have so much egg on your face it won't be funny

I

hate

going after elyse I really hate it but do you want to explain the rvs vote and the reaction to my push?

I love you.

UNVOTE: Mollie

My Rvs vote you want explained?

[Malakittens]

No, sorry. She changed her avatar therefore she's dead to me in terms of wanting to explain what she's doing as she killed my trust more than once. :[

But for realz.

I can't explain someone else's rvs vote, why should I?

[Malakittens]

I voted you instead of saying Hi to everyone I met at the reckoning meet!

I wanted a special hi for you!~

[Malakittens]

No, I need more time to get feels on them.

Especially more for the latter of the names rather than the former.

[Malakittens]

no you called me nikonar
i think that you should not vote me

give her reasons why

not

to vote you?

[Malakittens]

<<

Please tell me you're joking.

Please

[Malakittens]

Oh I got another town read. All votes on Zekrom are bad and you should feel bad.

[Malakittens]

I think Zekrom is an easy bait at this point. He's pretty damn new.

Also Marq:

How can you tell the difference between stalling scum and inexperienced players?

[Malakittens]

Didn't you just call her town?..(to Mollie)

Elyse change your avvie, pls.

[Malakittens]

Didn't you just call her town?..(to Mollie)

Elyse change your avvie, pls.

Why

Because I miss the old one. :[

And I don't like this one idk why.


@Marq:

Thanks for that. I can see what you are thinking in regards to Zekrom. I'm just paranoia I guess. :[

[Malakittens]

Jesus someone actually made me start posting normally.

However mollie, seriously, what the fuck are you doing this game? I have no idea what the hell your thought process has been this game so far.

This is what she does every game.

[Malakittens]

Didn't you just call her town?..(to Mollie)

Elyse change your avvie, pls.

Why

Because I miss the old one. :[

And I don't like this one idk why.


@Marq:

Thanks for that. I can see what you are thinking in regards to Zekrom. I'm just paranoia I guess. :[

You kept telling me to change the last one too.

Oh well

no, i loved the old one. rach/juiet/elizabeth is an alltime fav

[Malakittens]

zekrom. vote zekrom25 for VI.

he's good enough to have a hydra.

Bad posts bad posts.

He asked me in a PM if he could hydra with me because he wants to learn. It's not like he wants to stay new forever. He just needs an experienced person helping him.

[Malakittens]

zekrom. vote zekrom25 for VI.

he's good enough to have a hydra.

Bad posts bad posts.

He asked me in a PM if he could hydra with me because he wants to learn. It's not like he wants to stay new forever. He just needs an experienced person helping him.

Ill help him

1. Answer the damn questions asked of you.

2. Post more than a few words a post.

3. Be glad you didn't hydra with Mala this game, she is pretty scummy as well.

I'm always scummy though.

[Malakittens]

I'll catch up tomorrow!

I'm tired and not feeling wlel, so yea

[Malakittens]

10. Malakittens - I want to know what scum mala looks like.

Scum Mala is the most transparent thing on earth~

[Malakittens]

totes PL me because I'm always LyLo mislynch bait.


Wagon is ago!

[Malakittens]

Prod dodge?

._.

[Malakittens]

we can vote mala

No.

Mala is busy as fuck and doesn't have a day off until wed, go screw yourself for saying I'm scum when I have very little time~

[Malakittens]

I'm also just not in the mood to argue with you over the fact I prod dodge and you just now want to lynch me due to it.

[Malakittens]

I didn't even remember you were playing.

I would feel wonderful lynching you I think.

VOTE: mala

nu.

VOTE: Mollie

[Malakittens]

hmhhmm.

Mollie why are you discrediting someone's crumbs?..

:\

[Malakittens]

why mollie?

If scum she'll never be lynched.

Relational tells with Fish, Zek, Sthar.

She never gave her own vig targets out (that I can see).

I never gave out vig targets, does that make me scum?

[Malakittens]

VOTE: star8?

Note it's because of dead line things.

Ill have my act together for day 2!

[Malakittens]

Also L-1.

[Malakittens]

VOTE: Mollie

Serious vote.

You remind me of Shos when he discredited every single one of my crumbs in OGM. Shos was scum;therefore you are scum by default.

Also;

I think I'm down for a Zek lynch, but not voting because not many people have posted and I don't want a quick lynch to end this day off, tbh.

[Malakittens]

....

[Malakittens]

^

Well if that wasn't opportunistic I don't know what else is.

@Tman, ofc.

@Preedit:

Lol, no you arent

[Malakittens]

Mollie back the fuck up and vote my guilty with me plz TIA

We can lynch malascum tomrorow.

I'm not scum.

VOTE: Zek

Also
Mollie,

No, don't do this. Not right now.

[Malakittens]

For not-scum, you sure seem like pretty damn mala-scum-fuck to me right now.

I'm trying to get used to my rotating work schedule. ;-;

Although, give it time and faith you will see that I'm town. Town, town town.~

[Malakittens]

Vote: Zek

Jus cuz the other one was off my alt.

[Malakittens]

Hey cabbers your wrong on me. Talk to me so I can reach out to you?

[Malakittens]

hooooooooooooly fuck

you hear hoofbeats. do you assume horses or zebras?

I assume horses because that's what Grey's anatomy has told me to assume

[Malakittens]

Spoiler: Malakittens
Mala's activity is a function of her alignment and or her hydra partner. Since this is an all solo game, it's purely a function of her alignment. Mala doesn't like drawing scum. She posts more in her towngames and then sprinkles a useless post or two in her scumgames while making the rounds. Run her ISO and tell me which of the two you think this game is.

You know this is not entirely true. I can be very lurky as town also and be very fluffy. >.>

[Malakittens]

Cabd is ignoring me. this makes me sad.

[Malakittens]

I think it is really funny how we all know that cabd is scum with his claim and gooner not uttering a peep yet every1 is still lynching zekrom

Yet you are still self-voting~

Zek claims to say he shot Cabd and yet Cabd is still alive. How do you explain that?

[Malakittens]

I totally agree.

So now that Day 2 redux has opened you agree, but no vote, eh?

[Malakittens]

#hypocrite.

[Malakittens]

Honestly, the one thing that got me looking at evilpacman18 was this:

I don't like sthar. He posted a read list "in the interest of transparency" meaning he's more concerned with peoples' perceptions of him than posting reads because they convict him into lynching/defending certain people, etc.
Also he's got like a third of the playerlist chalked up to VI (including myself, which I can't remember playing with him but whatever) which normally indicates a town read (it is a VILLAGE idiot, after all), but in the case of someone like fish, who he says he doesn't really believe the claim, meaning he's reading him as scum, it's either a mislabeled null-read or intentional dissonance. Either way, his dismissal of so many players as VI is some indication that, again, he's more interested in looking actively engaged than being so. zekrom's 959 is more typically dull posting from him but I think he accidentally tripped over the discovery that sthar doesn't actually have much at all and for a full playerlist reads post, it leaves me at least still quite unsure of what sthar thinks.

This post is written at a time when sthar is already taking a lot of heat, but only has three votes on him. And the entire post is bullshit! "Intentional dissonance," REALLY? evilpacman18 doesn't even vote sthar until two other people hop on the wagon, making this post even worse, since sthar didn't post a single thing in that time.

VOTE: NIK

last time someone said 'honestly' during a post they were scum. Sayin 'honestly' is a classic scum tell because if you were already honest about it you didn't need to emphasize honestly

[Malakittens]

Malak is correct.

yet voteless,

buddy aaaaaaaaaaaaaalert.

[Malakittens]

I'm VLA at the moment because I'm really sick.

All my mods were notified via PM.

[Malakittens]

I think Zekrom is an easy bait at this point. He's pretty damn new.

Also Marq:

How can you tell the difference between stalling scum and inexperienced players?

Im ill atm so my activity is going to be rough(er). Basically, Mala has shown little interest in the game (I know you are ill atm.) but the post quoted at the time really hit me as off. I made a post about it -

I think Zekrom is an easy bait at this point. He's pretty damn new.

Also Marq:

How can you tell the difference between stalling scum and inexperienced players?

Hey min, let us do some scum hunting, alrite?

The fact is he hasn't done much, I want him to place an opinion on something. I am not advocating a wagon on him, I have not put my vote down. That said, those who have done have every right to do so. He is clearly stalling and by nullifying pretty legitimate reasoning with "oh, but he's new, give him a break" is pretty scummy.

See.

Now that he has flipped scum, your post looks extremely awful.

Post 414 as well.

VOTE: Mollie

Serious vote.

You remind me of Shos when he discredited every single one of my crumbs in OGM. Shos was scum;therefore you are scum by default.

Also;

I think I'm down for a Zek lynch, but not voting because not many people have posted and I don't want a quick lynch to end this day off, tbh.

Is your next post I find offensive, the half hearted defence throughout the day is gone and suddenly "SCUMREAD... but I don't want to vote..."

Then there is still the fluff posting etc.

vote malakittens

Found scum here guys. Please vote accordingly.

Considering I modded Zek when he was a newbie and people attacked him because he was not playing to how they thought he should. He kept getting mislynched apparently I was reading his meta the same way as the newbie game. At that point he had no scum meta to work off of, but I figured he would be a bit different than this.

I'm not a mafia goddess, I make mistakes. I misread Zek hardcore, but that does not make me scum.

Also the last post is a bit of a stretch that you are trying to paint scummier than you should. Zek didn't "vig" anyone which meant he was lying about his role which was obv at that point.

Also, I went to the doctors yesterday and have bronchitis, but I should feel better soon.

[Malakittens]

this next sentence is not about the bronchitis it's about the stuff you wrote about zekrom:

no one cares about your pity parade. you were trying to protect someone who has since flipped scum.

in fact

unvote vote Malakittens

let's get this thing done, people

I'm very aware my fluff isn't about the bronchitis you asshat. I'm letting everyone know that I finally went to the doctors because I felt I wasn't getting any better because it was more than just a 'cold/flu'. I also don't want pity, I want fucking sleep. My last sentence wasn't because I wanted pity, but to let people know that I'm slowly going to get better.

Again, town can protect scum because they don't know at the time that one person was scum. I misread Zek and I frankly thought he was town because this was how he played in the newbie game and kept getting lynched. I thought scum were finding him as an easy mislynch. I was wrong apparently, but that does not equal me being scum.

[Malakittens]

I was going to vote for Mala, but as Mala pointed out, the second quote was on day 2 when it was more clear that Zekrom was scum.

Yes but at that point it was clear he was going to be questioned, the vote for Mollie was a clear try at a counter wagon whilst the line about zek was a clear get out of jail free line after showing him support, at that point there was no intent to vote otherwise the vote for Mollie wouldn't be there. She only votes for zek when there is multiple other votes and a counter claim and there was no way we were lynching anyone else

Yes and because at the time I had heard from people whom I wanted to hear from. I didn't vote him because I didn't want a QL for a D2 because QLs never help town. I wanted Cabd to post, I wanted to hear some of his thoughts even if I don't agree with them all.

I seriously don't get why because me not insta voting him D2 makes me scummy.

Mollie whom chose to still sling mud at Cabd by calling him his scum buddie or a SK goes unnoticed and untouched, but me who didn't call Cabd anything gets the rope. Mollie discredited the lynch more than me D2.

[Malakittens]

I don't have time until after work today.

Ftr I think I skimmed and saw someone say I have restitant to my wagon which isn't tue because I'm at L-2 and there's two others possibly willing to vote with zero counter wagon. So like that's NO restistance to my wagon. Probably a scum driven one imo.

But I have to go because I'm not spending my break playing mafia, sorry.

[Malakittens]

@GC
Yates is really the only one giving solid reasons against the Mala wagon, but as I said, he's not saying she's town - just not scum.

Other people are just saying Mala is meh and not a priority, but literally no one is saying OMG stop voting Mala she's town guys. And unless Mala is realllly bad I don't see everyone scumreading/nullreading/not giving a shit about her if she's town.

You'll be amazed at the amount of times I'm scumread when town and townread when scum. I'm a scummy looking town player just look at your game when I was ran up Day 1 as a fucking cop.

Again, there's no resistance to my wagon other than Yates so please don't try to say there is and use that as an excuse to hop on.

[Malakittens]

well look who showed up as soon as a wagon built on her

Go screw yourself. Unless I'm faking activity I'm NOT POSTING ANYWHERE. i was sick as a fucking dog and I'm now getting ready to catch up on the five other fucking games I'm behind in due to it.

Pls do play the "coming when called" when I'm not sick, kkthx because then it might actually have value, right now it doesn't.

I misread Zek hardcore, but that does not make me scum.

I agree with this, mainly because I find "misreading Zek = scum" to be a poor accusation in light of the fact that I misread Zek and am not scum.

Yes and because at the time I had heard from people whom I wanted to hear from. I didn't vote him because I didn't want a QL for a D2 because QLs never help town. I wanted Cabd to post, I wanted to hear some of his thoughts even if I don't agree with them all.

I seriously don't get why because me not insta voting him D2 makes me scummy.

Mollie whom chose to still sling mud at Cabd by calling him his scum buddie or a SK goes unnoticed and untouched, but me who didn't call Cabd anything gets the rope. Mollie discredited the lynch more than me D2.

So when were you planning on voting Zek -- as soon as Cabd posted? Why the Mollie vote in the meanwhile? Would you have preferred a Mollie-lynch over a Zekrom-lynch on Day 2? (It's not the lack of an insta-Zek vote that I think has some traction in terms of scumminess, but the fact that you decided to vote for another player.)

I was planning on voting Zek yes, but I was waiting for people to post. I can't go after another scumread in the meanwhile to see how she would act? Zek wasn't not getting lynched and he was priority. Sorry, but I rather have my voice go on Mollie while I'm waiting for others so they know it's there.

If Mollie discredited the lynch then why aren't you going after her for it? You're trying to make her more scummy instead of explaining yourself and it looks really bad.

Right now she's a lesser priority. I think I rather have a Nik lynch more than a Mollie lynch, but she's on my high list of scum.

If Mollie discredited the lynch then why aren't you going after her for it? You're trying to make her more scummy instead of explaining yourself and it looks really bad.

^ this

I thought cabd was gambiting and he dawdled in giving a reads list. it is pretty evident in posts.

VOTE: malacat

buddymoarpls.

NO.

NO YOU DONT.

WE ARE NOT LYNCHING HIM TODAY.

I WANT TO, PERSONALLY MORE THAN I EVER WOULD WANT TO LYNCH MALA.

BUT MALA IS BASICALLY SCUM.

VOTE HER.

NOONE ELSE.

YOUR CRAPPY COUNTERWAGON WILL NOT GO THROUGH TODAY.

READ THE LAST FEW PAGES AND REVOTE.

You're not lynching me either.

[Malakittens]

yeah I mean she's lurkaderping and it's bad

...Or I'm sick. Would you like me to take a picture of the medicine I been taking the last few days that knock me out for a good 13+ hours?

That'll do.

Right. So this is your case:

Mala is lurking
Mala voted for mollie instead of Zek
Mala claimed she would vote Zek but didn't because "no quick lynch"

Am I missing anything else? I mean...

1. Mala has claimed to be sick thus not posting. I have been sick thus not posting. *shrug* Is this uncharacteristic for her? I'm not sure I've played a whole game with mala and if I have I don't know her meta. Outside of meta, I read this as null.

2. Do you know something about Mollie's alignment the rest of us don't? Point being - just because she didn't vote for Zek [or was even wrong about his newb label] doesn't mean she's wrong about Mollie. I'm not scum reading mollie but wtf do I know?

3. I'll give a minor scum point for the no quick lynch claim - but only because Zek ended up being scum.

@pisskop

- Do you have anything outside of meta on Marquis [and possibly the bitching]? One game isn't super convincing.

1. I'm not posting anywhere. if I am it's a bunch of one liners that has the same amount of activity here~

2. I'm probably right about Mollie considering I play with her a lot more than anyone else here. You should scum read her.~

3. So aparently me not wanting a quick lynch = me getting a minor scum point. Wouldn't it have been a whole lot better for scum-me to jump on the wagon for scum-zek than to draw attention to myself and vote elsewhere when Zek was obv lynched at that point?..

Well he had already claimed.

However no, my case really has fuck all to do with any of the reason you just gave.

The case is that she lightly defended Zekrom all day 1 with the case of "he's new, let him off..." then changed her stance day 2, but didn't put any money where her mouth is. ie. expressed suspicion on someone but voted someone else. Which is a fairly classic scum move. From her earlier stance, it was a bit of a 180, scummy due tot he circumstances in that Zekrom was obviously going to be questioned due to the missing nightkill. She tried to distance herself from him but lead another wagon, one in which she didn't make a legitimate argument for but kept enough of a door open to lynch her partner if she needed to.

Now how you got the conclusions you did out of my post confuses me. I mean I am currently assuming you did not read the thread, mala's iso or even the posts I quoted. Because even if you disagreed with the post, you would not have come to those conclusions. I mean its either that or you are scum panicking because I am about to get your partner lynched.

Yes, because of the two games I modded of his.. His behavior was the fucking same as his town behavior. He had no scum games up to that point (yes I looked) and he felt town. I defend those easy mislynches a lot.

I did change my stance day 2 -- you're right on that, but I didn't want a quick lynch w/o people posting. so I stalled voted and voted my second strongest scumread at that point which was Mollie because her actions reminded me of another scum player and she's not being as town as I would like her too.

Again this might be a classic scum tell for new players, but for an experienced player, not so much.

Anyways you are wrong with your conclusion because I'm not scum, kkthx.

chainsaw moar, yates

my case on mala is the fade, subsequent lack of commitment except to omgus me with a vote and the soft defense of zekrom. plus cabd had her as scum too!!!

considering it took you all to wait until a wagon formed to jump on me why couldn't you have presented this before the wagon started to form. Surely you playing enough with me could have easily taken the lead. Why the shadows, why now did you just present this.

Scum packing on the easy wagon.

Everyone should stop derping around and pick a wagon. There are plenty of good lynches today.

I completely agree that Mala is likely scum based off interaction with Zek. I still think Marq or nikanor are good lynches as well.

While on the subject of buddy tells, I really think that Marq bussed the shit out of Zek.

vote: Mala

Only because I think UT and Poro are town and I would rather be voting a scum read of mine with town then a scum read of mine with unknown.

You're probably scum too~

okay so if she flips town then where are you looking at?

still Marquis

Both of these are bad, you should feel bad.

[Malakittens]

reads list:

Spoiler:

2. PeregrineV - possible town
4. DeathNote - probably scum
5. pisskop - town
6. Yates - possible town
7. pirate mollie - scum
8. OhGodMyLife - ???
9. XLAV - ???
10. Malakittens - town
11. Elyse - probably town
12. Marquis - unsure leaning town
13. Nikanor - scum
14. Ythan - probably town
15. Porochaz - town
17. evilpacman18 - null-town
18. RadiantCowbells - null-town
20. tman2nd - null
21. Green Canyons - leaning town

[Malakittens]

You are buddying life.

Yes, you voted me after I voted you. DON'T EVEN YOU VOTED ME AFTER I VOTED YOU AND THEN ATTEMPTED TO SELFVOTE AFTER THAT.

[Malakittens]

vote: Malakittens

L-1. I am curious to see how she flips after that appeal. Esp since she's hard to read.

I'm not flipping or being lynched because I'm an 2-shot encryptor tracker.

The encryptor is passive and won't be blocked or stopped unless I die. I give daytalk to anything that needs daytalk. (Don't even start any role speculation because we don't need unncessary claims.)

[Malakittens]

...excuse me?did you just claim encryptor AS TOWN

Yes because I'm an ecryptor.

Is encryptor scumz?

Also roleblocker was town.

Also relax.

An encryptor can be town, but more often seen as a scum role. ._.

[Malakittens]

Then Who did you target, when, why?

I used one shot and I used it on Mollie n1. She didn't go anywhere.

I haven't used my other yet. I was hoping we'd have a second scum flip so it make getting tells easier from there so I can use it like a cop-guilty.

[Malakittens]

asdf zekrom had daytalk THE COACHING

want to hammer but the roleclaim is like. so into scummy it's towny? i think? but we just had a doctor rb and joat flip and like... so many prs

yeah I think the scum team could be a bit more experienced with the Zek thing.

Kinda why I'm looking a bit more at {UT, Nik, DN} as a deff scum member, but unsure which one, but I'm thinking Nik.

[Malakittens]

Yet somehow I have it ;-;

[Malakittens]

Poro, Mollie - I'm not scum ;-;

Pls don't lynch me

[Malakittens]

I don't think you're town. Just trying to tell you to not lynch me.