NY 171: An Education in Telling Jokes (Game Over!)

[Ythan]

Would look more believable if I dropped it right away prob.

[Ythan]

Bullshitting and waiting for night to fall?

[Ythan]

[Ythan]

wait for me

[Ythan]

The closer we get to the end the less I can chalk your tunneling up to being terrible at mafia.

[Ythan]

Pacman sure was scum. Notscience probably is too.

VOTE: notscience

[Ythan]

VOTE: Ythan

Of all the votes... why?

1. Display Posts By User: Green Crayons
2. Control + F
3. Type in: Ythan

Plus, Ythan's play in the previous day aligns with prior suspicions.

So this is not an actual response to the post

you moron

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[Ythan]

The closer we get to the end the less I can chalk your tunneling up to being terrible at mafia.

Mischaracterization. It's not "tunneling" when I have voiced suspicions of you in tandem with voiced suspicions about other players, and now that those other players are no longer alive, and you are still alive and still playing scummy, that I vote you.

You've voiced a willingness to lynch me, all by your lonesome, but I don't see anything that implies suspicion. Like words. Like the kind of things we start posting when lynches don't go our way once we've graduated from kindergarten mafia.

[Ythan]

So I'm literally reading your iso to try to prove to myself that you're not retarded

and failing. Explain your vote on me with like a big boy.

[Ythan]

The closer we get to the end the less I can chalk your tunneling up to being terrible at mafia.

Mischaracterization. It's not "tunneling" when I have voiced suspicions of you in tandem with voiced suspicions about other players, and now that those other players are no longer alive, and you are still alive and still playing scummy, that I vote you.

Okay which of your suspects have died exactly?

[Ythan]

• Ythan's fake dayvig strikes me as scummy.

Here you say my fake shot was scummy. Then we get all the way to

A suitable alternative is not one that is not as good. GC u r dumb.

Willfully obtuse Ythan is willfully obtuse.

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You

think Formerfish is "obvious scum." (Post 1041.)
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You

wanted obvious scum (Fish) lynched, or a "suitable alternative." (Post 1041.)
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I

am saying sthar is scum, and have not subscribed to your Formfish is "obvious scum." At most, Formerfish's play on balance has been scummy, but far from "obvious scum." (Post 709.)
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I

am saying that because I think sthar is a pretty good scum candidate, and because

you

yourself have acknowledged that sthar gave you the "heebie jeebies," (Post 1032)

I

think that sthar fits under

your

request for a "suitable alternative."

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Literally GC walled to make the point that another character "gave me the heebie jeebies" and that I should lynch them instead of scum. And has done shit else lately.

Is it possible for you to be more bad at being scum?

this post before you call me scummy again. And it's you arguing that a player who gave me the heebie jeebies was equally as good a vote as a player I was voting. Which is an idiotic argument in and of itself, but the important thing is that you jump to calling me scum. Bad scum, as if something in these posts was blatantly scummy? But I could not and can not see what you could be referring to. Elucidate me if you remember.

[Ythan]

Wooow it took forever to drag you onto those two scum lynches.

[Ythan]

Guys open Desperado's iso, ctrl+f green, start hitting enter and watch.

[Ythan]

Is that all you're gonna say?

[Ythan]

Give me more of a reason than that I am hot shit.

[Ythan]

14. Ythan *: I feel like he's pulling a "I'm hot shit" gambit and the only one who is noticing that it isn't working (and shouldn't be, because Ythan hasn't exactly delivered this game) is tman. Would be happy to vote again. (Happy to lynch.)

What part of this is even supposed to justify your claimed suspicion?

[Ythan]

That's pretty dumb/not where I can imagine putting my vote in town-gc's shoes but as long as you're up front about it.

[Ythan]

Good luck. <3

[Ythan]

DeathNote I never noticed that you are from Texas. I'm remembering you much more Texan now.

[Ythan]

Good luck. <3

After you've assessed that my suspicions are not up to par, I see that you've safely retreated from slandering my play as being scummy. Good to know you kick up a whole bunch of dust as soon as someone votes you!

Keeping my vote.

Are you making this up as you go along. That didn't happen. You are literally too much, don't worry you'll have your turn.

[Ythan]

If we're still here tomorrow and you've explained your vote then great. Otherwise we have to lynch

someone

.

[Ythan]

Yep!

[Ythan]

GC, your posting is pretty stupid and I don't intend to keep going until you make a case or tomorrow comes around. In the mean time I'll just

Either I'm right and you're scum or I'm wrong and have never been very good at this game.

[Ythan]

no i have to

i just noticed you took the trouble to bold two things and then respond in the most retarded possible way

because you said i stopped calling you scummy and then quoted me calling you scummy

it's not april fools anymore are you actually some troglodyte with a keyboard

[Ythan]

If we're all still playing tonight let's all take those few days to reflect on what on Earth has been going on with green crayons.

[Ythan]

You're an idiot and there's nothing else to say.

[Ythan]

But are you reading gc's posts though?

[Ythan]

Yep, and I agree with a lot of what he's saying.

Pick out something specific so you have to own up to it. You can't just "me too" a case that isn't a case. Or you can I guess because tman.

[Ythan]

Yep, and I agree with a lot of what he's saying.

Pick out something specific so you have to own up to it. You can't just "me too" a case that isn't a case. Or you can I guess because tman.

The thing is, my read on you at this point is very uncertain, and I plan on taking a closer look tomorrow when we've gotten the NS lynch out of the, so at this point there is nothing specific that I am agreeing with.

So you agree with him just not anything that he actually said?

DeathNote, show me what of gc you expect me to be able to not brush off as stupid. Show me something to address and I'll address it.

[Ythan]

drop the hammer

Monday night. I just realized like 1/2 the game isn't posting. Let's assume this is some long weekend excuse and give him Monday to get caught up or hanged.

I'm not trying to convince to to do it right now, but do you think his being at L-1 has anything to do with his not being caught up? What are you getting at right here?

[Ythan]

I never said you weren't scummy ya dipshit.

[Ythan]

It's quite simple

Is that why you aren't on the NS wagon? Or do you think NS is town?

Good point if this is indeed a scum lynch.

[Ythan]

Yep, and I agree with a lot of what he's saying.

Pick out something specific so you have to own up to it. You can't just "me too" a case that isn't a case. Or you can I guess because tman.

The thing is, my read on you at this point is very uncertain, and I plan on taking a closer look tomorrow when we've gotten the NS lynch out of the, so at this point there is nothing specific that I am agreeing with.

So you agree with him just not anything that he actually said?

Well, when I was reading the interactions between the two of you, GC seemed to be making good points. To what extent I agree with him particularly with respect to the idea that you are scum is something I haven't decided yet. I don't want to address it until tomorrow when the NS lynch is out of the way.

I asked you to specify a single point you agreed with you you're being shifty about it.

[Ythan]

Welcome to the game, get hammered.

VOTE: Kagami

[Ythan]

teehee

[Ythan]

dummies and scummies

[Ythan]

He has beef with me but can't back it up. Tman wants to sheep it but can't specify what he agrees with.

[Ythan]

aka rtft

[Ythan]

any1 who attempts to derail will face the fury

MOLLIE

[Ythan]

GC is trying to kill it, Mollie might be trying to kill it.

[Ythan]

It being killing, they're killing the killing.

[Ythan]

He has beef with me but can't back it up.

GC is trying to kill it

So many lies.

This is an intelligent way to address your concerns. Let's see where it leads.

[Ythan]

The slot isn't scum, mollie, ns has been lurking in all of his games from the looks of it.

this is not true. he has been actively posting elsewhere on site.

Yeah but where?

[Ythan]

You quoted a bunch of your posts which I have already had the misfortune of reading once. Can you express in any other/actual way why you are voting me?

[Ythan]

- Ythan: "He has beef with me but can't back it up."
- Me: quotes a bunch of posts where I have already explained why I find Ythan's play scummy to show that, in fact, I have backed it up and there's no need for me to restate my already stated suspicions
- Ythan: refuses to address those points and instead makes the issue about something else -- now, he's complaining that those reasons aren't stated with the right words



I'm not going to play into your attempt to make the focus of my voiced suspicions be anything but those voiced suspicions. Even in your flopping about, you're revealing your scumminess: you've already admitted that you understand my suspicions against you (Post 2346), but you fail to understand my suspicions against you when you want to discredit me (Post 2410, Post 2429).

So you can't do it? K.

Tman, what you are doing is saying you agree with points he has made but failing to specify a single one. After repeated prods to do so. It should be simple.

[Ythan]

I agree that you haven't been responding to most of his points, and instead just calling them stupid without explaining why.

He's calling me scum without explaining why, I've explained why I'm calling him stupid (see before the comma).

[Ythan]

Gc if those posts weren't shit I wouldn't be asking you to do better? All you do is bitch, you have to give it more than that.

[Ythan]

That Yates hammer.

[Ythan]

DeathNote the point of a claim is to avoid lynching town utility. What was the point to you?

[Ythan]

Wait not you.

Yates, same question.

[Ythan]

Ugh this game.

In the GC/Ythan argument, I like GC a hell of a lot more and can certainly see where he's coming from. It also reads very town that he's actually scumhunting and stuff because tbh this game has drained a lot out of me and I can't imagine how tedious it must be for scum.

Then you would be the perfect person to select a point from GC with which you agree, specifically.

[Ythan]

So far anyone pretending they agree with gc is unable to explain what they mean. Guys I'm not bulletproof.

[Ythan]

unvote

[Ythan]

UGH that slot though

[Ythan]

I have shot down everything GC says because everything he has said is shit. I've asked him repeatedly to try harder, in specific and points and generally, but all he seems to have is shit. Do you disagree?

[Ythan]

He acts so sure but cannot be bothered no matter how hard he is pushed to actually explain how he got to that point in the first place. The literal only thing from the start was that I was acting like I'm hot shit, which I am and he a hater, and after that that I'm shooting down every attempt to back up his position (without actually posting anything of any value).

[Ythan]

Oh how droll. The point is, he's complaining that I'm just shooting him down but he's not posting anything of value to back himself up. So he just looks incredibly shift.

[Ythan]

Even worse than his own inability to form a coherent explanation of his position is Tman's inability to explain why he's sheeping him.

[Ythan]

So what, he has some genetic inability to explain his reads?

[Ythan]

Oh my god Mollie stop or read.

[Ythan]

which have been attributed as being scumplay for both players.

Way to take a stand gc.

[Ythan]

That does not change the content of the post you just made you moron.

[Ythan]

DeathNote if you think the revealed bt is autolynch then what about the claimed anti-town-utility roles?

[Ythan]

b-a-n-i-l-l-a

[Ythan]

Whoops this is the boring game.

[Ythan]

As a matter of taste I am required to point out how stupid gc is at every opportunity, and he's not giving me any shortage of those.

[Ythan]

Hey Nacho!

[Ythan]

Like I'm unable to tell if he is actually so stupid that it is impossible to discern his alignment. If he can't read the thread and just smashes his face on the keyboard in response to every new mysterious-sequence-of-letters, what hope is there that he is even aware of the contents of his own role pm.

[Ythan]

<3

[Ythan]

Like I'm unable to tell if he is actually so stupid that it is impossible to discern his alignment. If he can't read the thread and just smashes his face on the keyboard in response to every new mysterious-sequence-of-letters, what hope is there that he is even aware of the contents of his own role pm.

ythan this is what you are doing too. I get that it comes from frustration in not understanding some1.

kagami and nacho are scum. plz vote 1 of them

love,

mollie

If you think he has a point I'm not addressing then spend the time it takes to make posts like this explaining that.

[Ythan]

No I unvoted.

VOTE: Kagami

[Ythan]

Iso Mollie real quick to get a feel for what's going on, or anyone else and ctrl+f mollie.

[Ythan]

Maybe if we keep it up someone will finally hammer by accident.

[Ythan]

Gc you know there's a crying smiley you can use instead of bothering with letters right.

[Ythan]

this one

or maybe this

[Ythan]

can we fucking kill mollie

[Ythan]

Dawn of
The Seventh Day
-309 Hours Remain-

[Ythan]

VOTE: Green Canyons

[Ythan]

i can't read this player someone feed me meta

[Ythan]

@Ythan- Are you scum? Seriously, just if you are town, clear you name now. I don't want this to go out of proportion. I considered you town just as I considered UT town and honestly... at this point UT would probably have pressure on him too.

So are you just pretending to ask a meaningful question or what. Like am I going to claim scum here?

[Ythan]

@Ythan- Are you scum? Seriously, just if you are town, clear you name now. I don't want this to go out of proportion. I considered you town just as I considered UT town and honestly... at this point UT would probably have pressure on him too.

So are you just pretending to ask a meaningful question or what. Like am I going to claim scum here?

I dont see why the question is so hard to answer.

Oh no you caught me I'm scum and I forgot how to lie.

Now you answer mine.

[Ythan]

I don't ever expect people to flat out say, "Yes I am scum." But how people respond to the question, "Are you scum?" can often be very revealing.

Explain how.

[Ythan]

I don't ever expect people to flat out say, "Yes I am scum." But how people respond to the question, "Are you scum?" can often be very revealing.

Explain how.

Well, if I've logged on after a bad day, I might say "I am the Mafia Bulletproof Mason Lover" in an attempt to entertain myself as people trip all over it as a scumslip of some sort.

On the other hand, if my day has been perfectly pleasant, I might say "Lana Del Rey" because I can.

DeathNote, you might want to be able to read into how people answer it, but the only thing "Are you scum?" reveals is just how fucking awesome I think Lana Del Rey's latest single is. Trying to extract a scumtell from that is like saying I'm scum for sheeping a strong town read onto multiple scum lynches!...

There's a reason I asked DeathNote this question Marquis.

[Ythan]

And apparently you were perfectly aware of that!

[Ythan]

Sure but does it matter? It is all opinionated anyways.
If a player is snarky about the comment, usually replying in wit or pushing the question back, then I consider that a town tell.
If a player ignores the question, I consider that a scum tell.
If a player gets flustered by the question, then I consider that a scum tell.
If a player refuses the question, I consider that a null tell which means I will follow up with different questions to force out some sort of response.

These are just a few examples but the reasoning of it all is because the nature of the question insinuates doubt in the person's alignment. If I ask a player if they are scum, then that is a good indication that I am suspecting them of being scum. At least, that is how most people view the question on the receiving end. The thought process is, "Why would he ask me that?" "I am obviously not going to say yes?" "Is he trying to get me to slip?"

I want insight on the player, that is one of the ways I get it.

Good job DN you did exactly what I requested of you and I appreciate your candor.

[Ythan]

14 hours from intent is more than enough time to come up with a claim.

Is that what you're waiting for?

[Ythan]

'come up with a claim'

[Ythan]

Wowowow. Ythan turned DeathNote's question right around and actually managed to not answer it -- making it all about something other than his response!

Hey, that seems incredibly familiar. It's like I've seen that before.

You're the stupidest person I have ever had the displeasure of being stuck in a game with.

[Ythan]

I see no point in treating a player like you with anything but contempt.

[Ythan]

That's one factor and it doesn't trouble me.

[Ythan]

Secret nurse is normal?

[Ythan]

Aren't you prepared.

[Ythan]

Maybe I skimmed past this but Yates you have an unrevealed probable confirmed town you're holding onto right?

[Ythan]

You are correct, I was fishing for already revealed confirmed town because I didn't want to keep reading Yates posts. Fact.

[Ythan]

Yeah that's what I couldn't find.

[Ythan]

I didn't realize this wasn't day 88.

[Ythan]

VOTE: Bulbazak

[Ythan]

Elyse is likely town from Yate's claim, as I think he'd want to confirm a real townie to sell it.

do you think here are five scum left

[Ythan]

Nobody cares though.

[Ythan]

Mhm.

[Ythan]

Nobody cares though.

Mhm.

What?

You're really dense.

[Ythan]

I'll be satisfied with GC.

[Ythan]

Which is not a phrase I expected to type.

[Ythan]

blah blah lynch or don't

if only we could vote for our preferred outcome

[Ythan]

Hi Antihero.

[Ythan]

I lost internet but I made my way down to a spot with wifi to read and post.

[Ythan]

(and to download pokemon roms but I'm here is what matters)

[Ythan]

Idk. GC.

[Ythan]

If only 1 scum left, and it isn't Ythan, then this won't be the end of things.

math

[Ythan]

If there's one scum left than there obviously is then I can get away with voting this townie in lylo.