NY 174: Oldy Mafia 2 (Game Over)

[OhGodMyLife]

Greetings!

I'm going to do my best to read through everything by the deadline, but if anyone wants to link me back to posts or passages they think are particularly important or telling I would definitely appreciate it.

[OhGodMyLife]

119 this is a cool new tag!

I'm still reading day one. This game is dense. I need the cliff notes. When did DGB become suspicious of Yos? Why are people voting sotty?

[OhGodMyLife]

I'm doing my best to power through at least all of day one in time to make a semi informed decision by deadline (if these people would stop distracting me with Settlers of Catan) but as far as I am right now I can already say I don't want to lynch sotty today.

[OhGodMyLife]

Trying to keep up with the current events in this game while also trying to read through the earlier parts of it is like trying to hit a moving target. Anyway..

Vote: DGB

Scumteam: DGB, Yos, chamber, and IDK yet (probably four scum left, yes?)

Townreads: ABR, VitR, Poro, sotty, mathcam

@ABR, I think DGB is manipulating you into being the loudest voice for a sotty lynch

[OhGodMyLife]

And green crayons is a townread too.

(In b4 Yos says "OGML suspects me in every game!" Love ya buddy)

[OhGodMyLife]

If a viable wagon is there absolutely.

[OhGodMyLife]

Unvote, Vote: Yos

[OhGodMyLife]

Reiterating the fact that I'm reading chamber and Yos as scumbuddies right here for good measure.

[OhGodMyLife]

"Oh no, don't start a flashwagon on Yos! Even though he's my 3rd scumread we can't try to change the wagons now because *reasons*!" - chamber

[OhGodMyLife]

Noting also that if Yoswagon doesn't go anywhere I'm right back on DGB like white on rice

[OhGodMyLife]

Unvote, Vote: DGB

[OhGodMyLife]

No way in hell are Yos and VitR scum together, ABR

[OhGodMyLife]

I'm still reading D1 (right now in fact, as I tab back and forth between trying to keep reading and keeping up with current posts) and late day one DGB is materializing every time a threat to LML appears to push the attention elsewhere, while early D1 DGB (before the site crash) was happy to reasonlessly sit on the LML wagon and rep it as a real vote. That's a scumbuddy.

[OhGodMyLife]

Here's who I currently think is town:

Chamber, DGB

,

Shanba, Glork.

Here's who I am leaning town on: MBL, Undo,

ABR

. inHim (or any incarnations)
Here's who I have null on:

Porochaz, CTD,

CES,

VitR, GC,

Yos2

, BooKitty (I feel like that wagon is incredibly manufactured... similar to mine),

Kublai Khan

Here's who I am leaning scum on:

UT, Mathcam

, STD,

Sotty

Here's who I have strong scum feelings for:

PJ

Anyone else who has tried analyzing this list in light of LML's scumflip please link me back to the post you do it in. I've colored it here with my current reads and known flips. Matchcam townread is weakening as I keep reading, STD and CES are pretty close to solid townreads right now too.

[OhGodMyLife]

I think I must be dangerously right about my scumreads to have gotten DGB so riled up. Also, end of D1 start of D2 how on Earth did chamber and dgb not catch SO MUCH FLAK for preferring a no lynch to an LML lynch?

[OhGodMyLife]

Sticking with DGBvote chamber and DGB are at this point much stronger scumreads than Yos

[OhGodMyLife]

I'm no longer convinced of VitR town and I really don't think Yos and VitR are scum together because:

Unvote, Vote: LoudmouthLee

I'm not a fan of any of the MafiaSSK votes on this page. Feels like a bunch of strong players going for an easy target. I especially don't like LML's #62, which nicely sets up a potential switch to the MafiaSSK wagon while maintaining a push on Tigris. Seems like something scum might do to make sure that two wagons keep momentum.

Her words weren't actually meaningfully responding to the context of the question.

As in: the response was in the abstract rather than talking about what the vote was concretely supposed to do in this game? Meh.

Vote:VitaminR

Either VitR is bussing LML, or Yos is chainsaw defending LML, but not both.

[OhGodMyLife]

DGB is the best lynch by a mile. How did she get her neck out of the noose on day two anyway?

[OhGodMyLife]

Prozac ABR is town, if you can't work with his current method just ignore him until tomorrow. He'll recalibrate when we lynch dgbscum

[OhGodMyLife]

petroleumjelly, Save the Dragons, Porochaz, Kublai Khan, Porochaz

Two of these players bus'ed LML yesterday, and are currently going after me, the easy lynch-du-jour.

What is this woe-is-me shit? And the self-serving insistence that someone on the lynchwagon was the busser (ignoring her own position on the LML wagon all through the early part of day one)

[OhGodMyLife]

Two of these players bus'ed LML yesterday, and are currently going after me, the easy lynch-du-jour.

woe is me I am so easy to lynch

god you're so scum dgb

UT if you're still reading this game, I love you

[OhGodMyLife]

In my opinion, here's the scum team, in no particular order:

Porochaz (or Green Crayons)
Yosarian
OGML
STD

YAY!!!!

Yay! DGB still has you wrapped around her little finger, just like I warned you about.

[OhGodMyLife]

Seol/Bookitty (9) --

Sotty7, Shanba

, Cogito Ergo Sum, chamber,

Untrod Tripod

, Save the Dragons,

petroleumjelly

, MafiaSSK/mathcam,

undo

No one is going to tell me that this wagon has no scum on it.

Your buddy chamber, and maybe mathcam

[OhGodMyLife]

I didn't really like the way she suggested chamber might be "TOO chipper".

I'm not going to pretend to be able to read DGB for shit, cause I can't, but she always starts off thinking I'm town then finds reasons to suspect me. This is nothing new.

You have nothing to be sorry for, entirely my fault.

I'm no better at reading DGB than she is at reading me (which is to say not well at all). We just use completely opposite ways of interacting.

I really wish the leading wagon was on someone other than DGB, not because I think shes town, but because I find her so hard to read that I don't find it useful in figuring out the rest of the game ._.

My reservation with voting yos over sotty is that I feel that will just make both wagons less viable than DGB's.

This guy literally refuses to give a read on DGB all game and then uses that as a reason to oppose lynching her

[OhGodMyLife]

I'm not actually all the opposed to a lynch on her. I think a vig on her would be excellent. I'd just rather people I actively suspect get lynched?

Pretty fucking convenient that you've positioned yourself to never be able to actively suspect DGB then, huh?

[OhGodMyLife]

"No, look, I did this once when I was town!" Self-meta is worst-meta. Unimpressed. Thanks for finally engaging with me though I was starting to feel pretty ignored by you.

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there is actively defending someone (something I've certainly not done on the behalf of dgb)

Let me go back to this for a second. No, you're not actively defending her in that you're not saying "guys she's town don't vote her" but you are actively defending her especially in 1235 (thanks again for the sweet new tag) in that you're discouraging what is at this point in day two really looking like it was forming into a righteous lynchwagon. So you're still being disingenuous. There's a difference between being unable to read DGB and leaning on that inability to defuse wagons on her.

[OhGodMyLife]

Updated scumteam prediction as of post 1237: DGB, chamber, mathcam, one of VitR/Yos

[OhGodMyLife]

1241 is VitR ratcheting up the DGB counterwagon

[OhGodMyLife]

OGML...if chamber wanted to defuse DGB wagon, he would have voted Yosarian. If you think that Yosarian is scum, you should vote for him. But you're scum....so it's pointless.

D00d I'm talking about D2 right now try to keep up I'm still re-reading

[OhGodMyLife]

And voting for Yos is exactly what chamber

just did

as soon as all the rats had to jump off the sotty wagon because she explicitly claimed so um, follow your own logic

[OhGodMyLife]

/ignore back to reading

[OhGodMyLife]

DrippingGoofball has sidestepped the

biggest

problems with her play in her post, and instead tries to focus on how she is "hunting scum" by focusing on players who lynched LoudmouthLee and players who are voting for her.

1.)

DrippingGoofball, how often -- as

Scum

-- have you pointed out in-thread that somebody

might

be a power role? How often do you do that as

Town

?

2.)

DrippingGoofball, please explain your Day One reasons for voting for Porochaz and Untrod Tripod. It seems you have still failed to give any.

3.)

DrippingGoofball,

why

would you prefer a No Lynch over a LoudmouthLee lynch? It is not like you don't understand basic mafia theory.

~

DrippingGoofball, you are

more

than free to post an analysis of the game. But I am not going to give you an extra game Day (or whatever) to do so -- no stalling will be permitted. In the meantime I am going to heartily encourage votes on you. Dance whatever dance you're going to dance.

I really dislike that post.

But nooooo chamber never defended DGB

[OhGodMyLife]

These chamber votes are awful. pj is just being petty and undo lazy.

quoting because this is VitR and chamber being scum together

[OhGodMyLife]

I'm gonna hazard a guess that once this game is over we'll be able to look back and find that 90% of the posts bitching about the quality of the masons' posts (especially after they claim) is coming from scum. Can't call them scum anymore, but still need to discredit their reads.

[OhGodMyLife]

And I'm more or less caught up! Resorted to skimming some of the more eye-glazing back and forths of day three but that'll have to do. Good use of my Monday. Fortunately there were hella thunderstorms here today so work was completely dead.

Scumteam call, final answer: DGB, chamber, VitR, mathcam <=== will switch my vote as necessary to achieve any of these lynches before deadline, DGB is the best bet and I think the most likely to yield an important scum power role

Solid townreads: {PJ, undo, sotty}, prozac, CES, ABR, crayons, STD

[OhGodMyLife]

Of those left uncategorized, my raised-hackle-ometer goes MBL, Bookitty, SpyreX in that order. Yos is only scum if VitR isn't.

[OhGodMyLife]

Now that I've actually read and have context:

OGML: I'm interested in your opinion on 1) the late D1 votes on KK, 2) KK's D2 feelings on Glork, and Glork's assertion that KK is scum, and 3) anything you have to say about MBL.

1) The votes to note here were DGB and LML. LML's primary motivation seems like an easy "anyone but me." DGB's looks like another clear attempt to get LML out of the noose and a townsperson into it.
2) I don't really have anything useful to say about this. They were wrong? I'm not even actually going back to look at KK's posts about this again right now, I can't speak to his thought process. Obviously I had the benefit of reading the game with Glork having already flipped town.
3) MBL is a distant fifth right now behind the suspect I previously outlined, but he has been... I don't want to say forgettable, but he's sat out a lot of the important goings on and especially his votepark all of day one reflects badly to me.

[OhGodMyLife]

Look how quickly he reverts his stance on Yosarian! Scum! Scum! ^

Was there something unclear about how my stances got from one place to the other? Excuse me for allowing new information to change my perspective.

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@masons, this is pretty much a duh question, but you have been guaranteed each others' township, right?

Don't really want to hunt for it but PJ explicitly addressed this already and the answer was yes, this is a normal game, and scum masons are not normal.

[OhGodMyLife]

Yeah that was it, now can you place a vote or something?

[OhGodMyLife]

To do as you suggest (include players on his wagon AFTER his bus comment) would be ridiculous.

Why? VitaminR was one of the first people to attack him. Seems arbitrary to only include people with their vote on at that moment in time.

[OhGodMyLife]

I'm very anti CES lynch

[OhGodMyLife]

To do as you suggest (include players on his wagon AFTER his bus comment) would be ridiculous.

Why? VitaminR was one of the first people to attack him. Seems arbitrary to only include people with their vote on at that moment in time.

DGB please respond

[OhGodMyLife]

CES isn't even on my list of people that can be scum. There's half this game that I would look into before even starting to consider CES as a serious bandwagon.

What do you think of DGB and mathcam jumping on that wagon?

[OhGodMyLife]

I've already stated why I think VitR is scum -- and why he's the lynch of the day. Go read that post and be persuaded.

I agree, he probably is, but deadline is tommorow and I don't think there's enough votes on VitR.

Come join us on CES today. Assuming VitR is scum, CES is his most likely buddy anyway.

I would gladly support a VitR lynch, and I am against an STD lynch.

[OhGodMyLife]

I also do not think VitR and CES are scum together I think CES is the townie that both VitR and chamber buddied quite successfully.

[OhGodMyLife]

Masons voting as one would really help speed this along I think.

[OhGodMyLife]

OK MBL if you vote VitR I will

[OhGodMyLife]

*Yawn* Talk to me when more people than the ones I've already called scum and ABR are interested in voting for me.

[OhGodMyLife]

To do as you suggest (include players on his wagon AFTER his bus comment) would be ridiculous.

Why? VitaminR was one of the first people to attack him. Seems arbitrary to only include people with their vote on at that moment in time.

DGB please respond

Would still like a response to this.

[OhGodMyLife]

chamber does a lot of talking about he isn't defending the people he keeps voicing concern about votes for etc

[OhGodMyLife]

To do as you suggest (include players on his wagon AFTER his bus comment) would be ridiculous.

Why? VitaminR was one of the first people to attack him. Seems arbitrary to only include people with their vote on at that moment in time.

DGB please respond

Would still like a response to this.

"I am town, look elsewhere"

Really great answer

Dear rest of the town, remember in the future this exchange where DGB flat out refuses to justify her leaving VitR out of her "people who could have bussed LML" pool

[OhGodMyLife]

Especially if I get lynched today in which case fuck all of you for making me read this long and arduous game

[OhGodMyLife]

Sorry DGB the earliest LML busser was actually you

[OhGodMyLife]

I thought it more likely that someone was on his wagon at the time of the slip.

Why are they mutually exclusive? If a busser was on his wagon at the time of the so called "slip" why does that mean earlier voters not on at that time are necessarily not bussers? I honestly don't get how you're drawing this conclusion.

[OhGodMyLife]

OGML you are wasting my time.

Really? Really??

....

really?

If this kind of bullshit deflection slides by the town deserves to lose.

[OhGodMyLife]

I'm going to bed. The DGB wagon better form back up by the time I wake up.

[OhGodMyLife]

I agree with the town read on DGB.

Can you explain why?

DGB is the best lynch. Seeing people I think are town leaving the wagon to vote for someone I think is town is very frustrating.

Unvote, Vote: VitaminR

This is the other best lynch.

How many hours are there til deadline?

[OhGodMyLife]

Raise your hand if you think VitaminR is scum, and then if you raised your hand vote for him.

[OhGodMyLife]

DGB is the best lynch.

If you want to be credible, read the whole game and not just your scum QT.

So your whole goal is to discredit me then?

[OhGodMyLife]

Oldies do not do well at deadlines.

[OhGodMyLife]

VitaminR, I'll be around to change my vote back to DGB if people stop buying her act. I also think there are enough people suspicious of you to form a lynch wagon if they all got online in time.

[OhGodMyLife]

DGB is the best lynch.

If you want to be credible, read the whole game and not just your scum QT.

So your whole goal is to discredit me then?

I don't think you need my help.

You're spending an awful lot of time doing so. I feel like I'm actually the only one who has *recently* read the whole game and you keep getting away with implying that I haven't read the game to dismiss me when there is a whole string of posts that are me reading the actual game. Though it feels like people in this game haven't even bothered to read my posts. Congratulations on having more clout than me.

[OhGodMyLife]

OK screw it.

Unvote, vote OGML

This guy is even more confscum than Yosarian.

That's fucking hilarious weren't you just deciding I was scum because I had to be scum with Yosarian?

[OhGodMyLife]

PJ is the only one making sense

[OhGodMyLife]

Unvote, Vote: DGB

[OhGodMyLife]

Who put forward the idea that UT was killed by a vig? I remember DGB saying it.

[OhGodMyLife]

If UT were here I feel like the DGB lynch wouldn't be failing. GC and STD I think you can swing it back to DGB by moving your votes.

[OhGodMyLife]

If UT were here I feel like the DGB lynch wouldn't be failing. GC and STD I think you can swing it back to DGB by moving your votes.

Crawl back to your QT, you should be hanging today if I had my way.

You seem to know something about scum having daytalk that I was unaware of

[OhGodMyLife]

Because CES should have spoken up by now? Seriously if he's a PR and didn't bother to check the game at any point in the last 24 hours, that's on him, not us.

I did a quick ISO, and see that CES did post earlier today. But at that time he was tied for the leading bandwagon (someone had done an unofficial vote count on the very page he posted on), so I still think his absence is actually a knock against him when, even if he isn't a super active player, he hasn't said anything at game time.

DGB claimed vanilla, prematurely, but only after the vanilla cop got KO'd. Since you seem to be weighing risks.

[OhGodMyLife]

DGB claimed vanilla, prematurely, but only after the vanilla cop got KO'd. Since you seem to be weighing risks.

QUOTED STRAIGHT FROM THE SCUM QT

FOR YOUR WEIGHING AND CONSIDERATION

Like, OGML, you read through this game SUPER quick. You even admitted to skimming.

And yet you caught this specific sequence of events?

Is it really that fucking outlandish that I paid attention to what my scumread was doing?

[OhGodMyLife]

I was quoting posts

as I went

for a while you can track how quickly I was reading

[OhGodMyLife]

I have to admit, DGB looks really town in these last few pages.

WHAT ABOUT THIS LOOKS TOWN TO YOU

[OhGodMyLife]

Is it "fucking outlandish?" No, I would not say that it is.

Well then why don't you actually stop and think about the "specific sequence of events" or anything except believing DGB's smear campaign that I didn't read the fucking game

[OhGodMyLife]

Is it really that fucking outlandish that I paid attention to what my scumread was doing?

YES

THE SINGLE FAKE SCUM READ YOU 'DEVELOPPED' ON PAGE 3

AS YOUR BUDDIES PLANNED FOR YOU

AND SPOONFED YOU THE SALIENT DETAILS

GOOD JOB IGNORING THEM AND NOT GIVING THEM AWAY

Yeah, that's right. My one fake scumread. That's a perfect representations of my positions as they were from my first posts all the way through now. SO fucking spot on.

[OhGodMyLife]

Yo ho, yo ho, you are frustrated. Don't take it out on me.


All DGB's post did was make me realize that I should actually go back and reread your catching up posts juxtaposed with her "SCUM QT CLIFF NOTES!" assertions tomorrow.

What the fuck did I even read this game for. And you were the one who actually asked me a question I had to read through to be able to answer.

[OhGodMyLife]

DGB I hope you feel personally guilty over using this as a scum tactic.

[OhGodMyLife]

Like, OGML, you read through this game SUPER quick. You even admitted to skimming.

This, again, because I just gotta. SUPER quick you say? Like, my entire fucking Monday? That quick? That's how quick. And I admitted to skimming some of day three. Maybe much of it. But I was not skimming day one or two.

[OhGodMyLife]

Fuck you both

[OhGodMyLife]

Vote: DGB

@GC
1) No, that wasn't directed at you. It was directed at ABR and DGB.
2) The day I replaced into the game I didn't get to read too much, maybe less than the first ten pages. My weekend was busy irl with first a slammed shift at work, then girlfriend, daydrinking, drugs, settlers of catan, and various other pursuits I enjoy when not replacing into a mammoth game nearing deadline. Then came Monday, a day on which I worked a double and the rain came pouring down and nothing was happening so I sat in the office on the computer reading the game all day. This is the part that you should be able to follow most easily, because pretty much as soon as I had read far enough to have developed some solid reads I started posting. Interactions with ABR re: Yos came as I continued reading, and I spent a large chunk of that calendar day with two tabs open, one tracking where I was in my read, and one to refresh my bookmarks so I could keep up with rapidfire posts from schizo ABR and others. You'll have to tell me but I think it should be simple enough to follow and even match timestamps to shit I was quoting or posting about and get a vague idea of how fast I was reading. I paid a greater attention to detail in the early game. I skimmed large sections of day three, but (astoundingly! amazingly!) managed to catch details about what my scumspects were posting because when I skim

that's what I'm skimming for

so that's what I stopped and paid the most attention to. I hope this has been a rambling paragraph that helps you and others realize that listening to DGB discredit me by claiming I hadn't read instead of responding to half the points I raised against her was a cheap and obnoxious scumtactic and it is her day to die.

[OhGodMyLife]

VitaminR is also still so, so scum. Yes, VitR, you were buddying CES, and the fact that he flipped town actually

proves that point

not the other way around. You snowed him (along with chamber) and he was your pet townie right up until he became expendable as a counterwagon to your buddy DGB.

And Yos, the sense to be made from yesterday is that you pushed a counterwagon that scum were only too happy to climb aboard.

[OhGodMyLife]

ABR, kindly shut the fuck up for about 24 hours and let this thread breathe without you. The town will be better for it.

[OhGodMyLife]

Hilarious to me that ABR + the people I've namedropped as DGB's most likely scumpartners are the only ones to vote so far today for anyone but DGB. Don't worry STD, we're going to reach a tipping point and start securing lynches well before deadline from here on out.

[OhGodMyLife]

chamber why were you willing to vote DGB at deadline yesterday but now she is off your lynch list yet again?

[OhGodMyLife]

chamber why were you willing to vote DGB at deadline yesterday but now she is off your lynch list yet again?

I was never voting DGB because I thought she was scum, it should be obvious that vote was because she was preferable to a CES lynch.

Do you still categorize her as unreadable?

[OhGodMyLife]

Functionally unreadable for me, yes. She could be scum. There are 4 living scum in the game though, I'll worry about my inability to read her if the time comes that there is only 1 left.

This is still just the most fucking convenient position to take on a scumpartner of all time and I can't get over it

[OhGodMyLife]

Functionally unreadable for me, yes. She could be scum. There are 4 living scum in the game though, I'll worry about my inability to read her if the time comes that there is only 1 left.

This is still just the most fucking convenient position to take on a scumpartner of all time and I can't get over it

ok? Did your question have any relevance or did you just feel like trying to smear me some more?

The relevance was that I wish you would stop ignoring DGB out of hand. OK, so you can't read her from her posts. Can you pretend she's someone else and just

look at her voting pattern

for a second and try to conclude whether you'd find random player x with that voting pattern scummy or townie?

This is also functioning to remind other players again of your pattern of behavior regarding DGB all game because I'm pretty confident we can finally get a DGB lynch today.

[OhGodMyLife]

This thread badly needs more active masons and for chamber to stop piping in

every time a cogent attack on DGB is made

with an immediate "not defending DGB" defense.

[OhGodMyLife]

chamber, how is the fact that you can't read DGB in any way relevant to whether or not PJ can read DGB or whether or not he should be voting DGB based on his own case?

[OhGodMyLife]

chamber, do you respect PJ as a scumhunter? Do you believe he's really a mason? If you answered yes to one or both of these questions, and you really will never be able to get an accurate read on DGB yourself, maybe its time to trust his instead of actively trying to dissuade (known town) people from their DGB votes.

[OhGodMyLife]

ABR because he's clearly town. SpyreX becaus mathcam and VitaminR both make more sense as your scumpartners.

[OhGodMyLife]

SpyreX, how come you haven't pursued mathcam since your catchup post? Why was VitaminR a townread to begin with?

[OhGodMyLife]

MBL why do you spend so much time not voting?

[OhGodMyLife]

I'm done. Have fun.

Requesting Replacement

Well this is extra shitty

[OhGodMyLife]

GC I think you misunderstood me, I never thought VitR and Yos were scum together. The reason I went back to 94 is because that was, on my first pass, the post that made me think of Yos, "This is LML's scumbuddy, attacking his most serious attacker." Only later on, as VitR's early push on LML gave way to a bunch of scummy nothingness and Yos' early (apparent chainsaw) defense of LML turned around and became the driving force of the LML lynch did I come to reverse these scumreads in my head. The reason I quoted post 94 again when I did is because I think its a post that, even though I initially interpreted it as Yos-scum/VitR-town instead of the other way around, clearly demonstrates Yos and VitR cannot be scum together. If they were then that was scum, voting for scum, for voting for scum, which is I don't think is a reasonable thing to believe.

[OhGodMyLife]

Once again, fuck you ABR

[OhGodMyLife]

ABR I wish I could see the look on your face after this game ends and you realize how fucking well the scum played you the whole time

[OhGodMyLife]

DGB, do you think VitR is town?

He's not my biggest town read, but he's a town read.

Translation: "he's my scumbuddy so I'm going to equivocate just enough to try to sound natural"

[OhGodMyLife]

ABR I wish I could see the look on your face after this game ends and you realize how fucking well the scum played you the whole time

If you don't want to suffer the same fate, vote STD!

Admitting you know I'm town?

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ABR I wish I could see the look on your face after this game ends and you realize how fucking well the scum played you the whole time

I still don't understand how you don't have any suspicion of STD. Tell us the truth, how much of the game have you actually read?

To the first part, because the scummiest people in the game continue trying to get him lynched. To the second part, fuck you.

[OhGodMyLife]

In what world was that her admitting that she knows you're town?

The implication to her post being that I should vote STD or suffer the fate I'm wishing on ABR, which is a crushing realization of being played by the scum. To suffer that fate I would have to be town.

[OhGodMyLife]

If I were a mathamancer I'd go through and see what % of chamber's posts are direct or indirect DGB defenses because I bet its getting up there.

[OhGodMyLife]

But she was just panhandling for STD votes wherever she can get them. I'm sure I've seen her do that before when town.

And that % I was just talking about ticks ever higher.

[OhGodMyLife]

Requesting replacement

Sorry Patrick

[OhGodMyLife]

Good game scum. See y'all in another life.