New York 182 - Game Over

[Gorkington]

I am less active now.
VOTE: NS
I would hardpush a ZZZX wagon if people would get on board.

[Gorkington]

How about this?
VOTE: ZZZX
CLEAR THE DEAD WEIGHT GOGOGOGO.
This wagon now features:
i) Free high fives to those who join it
ii) Bacon
iii) Vegetarian bacon for those who require it
iv) Explosions
v) Less risk than lynching Thor
vi) Clearing dead weight
vii) Night action time = funtimes
viii) I will go and get pisskop and beat him up until he's dead during night cycle
ix) Streamers and confetti

[Gorkington]

Quickwagon with me.
Get a townread for switching wagons wowowowoowowow.

[Gorkington]

Voting without having read is worse. Shows that you're more invested in the game which is more likely for coasty scum.

[Gorkington]

Boon has given no indication that he has any interest in playing the game.
I don't mind the idea of voting him[boon] on that merit, but I think ZZZX is actually probable scum from his coasty bullshit.

[Gorkington]

New rule:
Everyone votes for only NS or Thor because there's a single day left.
Flubber. If you're still voting for Fuzzy by the end of this cycle I will make it my mission to see you dead in this game. Yafeel?
[My totally subtle way of telling you to stop sitting on a wagon that has no momentum at all this close to deadline]

VOTE: notscience

[Gorkington]

If notscience is going to just sit there and complain about things then I prefer dead weight over him atm.

[Gorkington]

How are you still sitting on a Fuzzy vote that has no momentum with one day left droog?
Maybe you should switch back to copper because that'd be about as effective as what you're doing right now.
>:(

[Gorkington]

Will you vote for notscience before deadline if you dislike the case for Thor?

[Gorkington]

Marquis I don't see the base for a Thor case. I think he's kind of off this game, but I haven't seen a lot of things that scream "this is similar to scumThor".
It really doesn't give me confidence enough that I want to off him more than someone useless right now after such a good N1.

[Gorkington]

And you think amazing scumThor is going to dumbtunnel Antihero despite a metacase defending him and an inevitable huge backlash upon a mislynch after two of his scummates die N1?
Yeah. Not super convincing to me.

[Gorkington]

"I'm fuzzy and I'm going to push a counterwagon to thor because obviously mislynching notscience over mislynching Thor is preferable in my eyes, also I'm going to not just lurk when it's totally acceptable for everyone to be lurking the fuck out of this game right now."
Yeah. Stop.
Everyone voting for Fuzzy at end of cycle is fairgame for D3 lynch IMO.

[Gorkington]

Mysteries.
Are you going to argue my point or just be bewildered that you can't figure out who I am?

[Gorkington]

And you think amazing scumThor is going to dumbtunnel Antihero despite a metacase defending him and an inevitable huge backlash upon a mislynch after two of his scummates die N1?
Yeah. Not super convincing to me.

ZZZX counterwagon is always there and waiting to happen.

[Gorkington]

Pisskop is town.

[Gorkington]

VOTE: ZZZX
Might pull up some VCA and dive down NS ISO later but feeling lazy atm.

[Gorkington]

15:3:3 - i believe this could be the case here and i'll get around to why in a bit

Eh. Stats are disagreeing with you here. I'm wagering on SK/mafia.

I am feeling better about Vasoon but I am not totally sold on him as town yet.

Varsoon is almost certainly town based purely on mechanics. Two scumkills on N1 means that one of them was vig and the vig would have to be stupid to not either shoot Varsoon or CC him by now.

[Gorkington]

Oo.
Sure.
VOTE: Flubber

[Gorkington]

<3
don't go.

this guy gets it

as long as it's not hated mechanics. amirite?

[Gorkington]

Wagon on you was garb.
It turned out to be a garb votepark wagon sitting next to a nice saucy wagon on scum.
Anyone sitting on that vote could be sad scum who knows their shit is getting stomped.

vote Piss

It's like you can't read or something. Get with the program.

[Gorkington]

So are you saying that we are dealing with one big scum team tnen

Probably? We got stupidly fucking lucky if we cleared a small scumteam already.

[Gorkington]

would you consider beating the ever-living smurf out of thor tonight?

I decide to beat up people in my own way.
Boon's looking like he needs a good rough-housing atm.

[Gorkington]

It's okay.
Droog did the same thing yesterday.

[Gorkington]

one scum down two to go

Heh.
Heh.
That's a good point actually.
Man if that's the case then boy were they ever unlucky.

@Gork - I am well aware that the wagon on me was garbage that lacked a case - I said as much

Not everything is about u. I was talking about the fuzzy wagon.

[Gorkington]

I'm saying I think it's SK & single faction mafia atm.
Notscience quotes are making me worried this is multiball though.
I hope it's not because multiball is frustrating.

[Gorkington]

Sakura and notscience are both scum.
/thread.

Oh. I was right.
Sheeping my dumb jokelogic from now on.

[Gorkington]

@Gork - I am well aware that the wagon on Fuzzy was garbage that lacked a case - I said as much

You responded to a point I was making about fuzzywagon and interpreted it as me saying the wagon on you was garbage.
Now I'm clarifying my clarification.
Happy day.
How's the read on Anti going?

P-Edit: I don't want a Thorlynch today. No thank you. Not buying what you're selling.

[Gorkington]

Ewwwww.
No.
What if this is like Jungle Republic.
No.
Ew gross no.

[Gorkington]

Pisskop is town.

[Gorkington]

Town due to meta if not play - as it has been since yesterday. Why, what should be changing it?

His continued lurk will eventually make Marquis re-assess the read.

I thought this looked like you weren't really over the scumread on him entirely.

First glance at flubber ISO doesn't look that bad to me. Will try to articulate when I feel like sharing.
We shouldn't use all the time to deadline IMO.

[Gorkington]

Oh and
VOTE: ZZZX
Birthday!
Party!
Woo!

[Gorkington]

This is me saying that we still shouldn't lynch pisskop and copper today or tomorrow for that matter.
All things considered.

[Gorkington]

I have a hard time seeing Thor being scum with Sakura.
Maybe SK.
Some good points have been raised about Okakill being SK-kill though so probably not.

Droog might be a good lynch. Clown hasn't done anything and sat on the Fuzzywagon D2.

[Gorkington]

Who else seems like scum to you Marquis? Give me some words on that.

[Gorkington]

And you think amazing scumThor is going to dumbtunnel Antihero despite a metacase defending him and an inevitable huge backlash upon a mislynch after two of his scummates die N1?
Yeah. Not super convincing to me.

There's also this.

[Gorkington]

Flubb some more reads/general thoughts on things would be fantastic.
pls and ty.

[Gorkington]

boon, zzzx, seo, ika, md have less than 60 posts.
Can we please off some dead weight before we get rid of someone who's actively contributing and can give us more information by actually playing the game? I don't think this is unreasonable after we've just nailed three scum in a row.

[Gorkington]

MOAR.

[Gorkington]

If you're gonna be a jerk then at least talk about ur case on him and make it less vanity as fek breh.

[Gorkington]

Do something neat then.
Who is scum. Why aren't you voting?

[Gorkington]

Mnem you made a HUGE case on notscience. Then unvoted because you disliked Oka's sheep of your vote?
Then only voted for him because of deadline rush.
Then switched to Thor?
Why did you stop pushing for him being scum?
Why did you hunt for scum off of the wagon you were pushing?

[Gorkington]

Thor and Anti can I get your thoughts on Mnem?
I'm trying to decide whether his push/drop/redirect on NS is scummy or not.
IE: Him hardpushing Notscience in his first few posts, then switching onto Oka because he 'opportunistically joined the wagon on Notscience'.
And then voting Thor before deadline instead of notscience because ????. Apparently that scumread that he was hardpushing just wasn't a big deal anymore.

[Gorkington]

I also dislike that he tried to use "I'm being active" as a defense to me saying he was sketchy for his lack of posting when he hasn't been being active at all since the notscience wagon took off and went through.

[Gorkington]

@Thor, what exactly is the case on ZZZX/is there some kind of reservation you might have for MD being scum?
VOTE: MD
Because I doubt a pressurevote is gonna do anything here and the amount of substance here is delicious.

[Gorkington]

In better words: why do you find ZZZX to be more scummy than MD such that 'it might not be groupscum' is the best argument you have for not wanting to sheep a case there? Gimme words on that.

[Gorkington]

Bookmarking topic and then viewing bookmarks can help.

[Gorkington]

Pisskop.
Sir.
Help me find scum.
Would you lend me your aid on an MD wagon?

[Gorkington]

Also, flubber doesn't seem scummy to me in his ISO.
Maybe he's gotten marginally better at emulating his aura of "I almost kind of care" as scum, but I get the impression that his thoughts are a little more fleshed out here than they typically are in his scum game from vibes alone.

[Gorkington]

Whachu like about flubberscum.
I personally almost kind of like droogscum comparatively.

[Gorkington]

Why is Oka not being down for flubber vote indicative of flubberscum?
Oka was town? Not following at all.

[Gorkington]

It's okay.
Want me to make some deliciously sheepable VCA?
Also, if people want to push this wagon faster that'd be nifty too. If we can make this game's pace faster via threatening wagons and lurker pressure I feel like we're gonna win.

P-Edit: Heh. You're crazy man. You're both town. Oka's also town. These are the facts yoh.

[Gorkington]

Blue is town. Red is scum. Light blue is my heroic clears of justice. Whether you want to sheep my gloriousness is up to you. But you should.
Things of note: I would be shocked if nobody bussed notscience. ZZZX and Seo seem like good candidates for bussers to me. Scum hasn't been afraid to votestack. Three scum piling on Varsoon early D1 back-to-back-to-back seems weird to me. :/

D2 Lynch

notscience

(LYNCH) - TheFuzzylogic99, Thor665, ZZZX,

Gorkington

, Seohyun,

OkaPoka

,

copper223

,

pisskop

, ika, Marquis
TheFuzzylogic99 (2) - droog, Flubbernugget
Thor665 (5) - Antihero, zMuffinMan, Varsoon,

notscience

, mnemonicdevice
Not Voting - Boonskiies

Height of Antiwagon

notscience

(1) - TheFuzzylogic99
Antihero (5) - Thor665, elusive,

Gorkington

,

copper223

, ZZZX
TheFuzzylogic99 (1) - ika
copper223 (1) - droog

OkaPoka

(1) - mnemonicdevice
mnemonicdevice (5) - Flubbernugget,

notscience

, Seohyun, Marquis,

OkaPoka

Seohyun (1) - Antihero
Not Voting - Boonskiies, Varsoon,

pisskop

D1 Lynch

Antihero (1) -

copper223

Flames of Disaster

(LYNCH) -

notscience

,

Sakura Hana

, House,

OkaPoka

,

Flames of Disaster

,

pisskop

, droog, Flubbernugget, Varsoon, Marquis, Antihero
Flubbernugget (1) - elusive
Otolia (2) - ZZZX, Seohyun

pisskop

(1) -

Gorkington

Varsoon (2) - Thor665,

Formerfish

Not Voting - TheFuzzylogic99, Boonskiies, Otolia

Height of Varsoon Wagon

notscience

(1) -

notscience

Antihero (2) -

copper223

,

pisskop

elusive (1) -

Gorkington

Flubbernugget (2) - elusive, House
Otolia (3) - ZZZX, Seohyun, Flubbernugget
Varsoon (7) - Thor665,

Formerfish

,

Sakura Hana

, Otolia,

Flames of Disaster

, Marquis, Antihero
ZZZX (1) - droog
Not Voting -

OkaPoka

, TheFuzzylogic99, Varsoon, Boonskiies

[Gorkington]

TheFuzzylogic99, Thor665, ZZZX,

Gorkington

, Seohyun,

OkaPoka

,

copper223

,

pisskop

This is the part that I find interesting.
I know that myself, you and copper are town.
Everyone else can be doubty fucks but IDGAF.
If this is single faction, Fuzzy is town and I think Thor is probably town atm.
Tell me that, as scum, you're going to let a tasty scumlynch go by without anyone jumping on for 8 townvotes before getting on? Nah mang. Thor might be snowing me, but I think it's more likely that ZZZX or seo is scum here.
Holding pressure on MD for now because momentum is there and fukn guy needs to start playing again or gtfo.

[Gorkington]

Ur right. You're at least as much of a hero as I am, if not more.
Would you like me to make new ones with you as teal?

[Gorkington]

Boon's mine.
Why not MD?

[Gorkington]

Do you think anything he's said prior to NS wagon taking off has indicated that he has any kind of interest in this game?

[Gorkington]

He was all over dat shiet early D2.
Why be less energized after making a huge case on scum and validating yourself?
Seems more like demotivated scum being like "fek i didnt even get credit for my bus :c"

[Gorkington]

MN and ZZZX wagons are best wagons atm.
Seo might not be bad alternative based on weak gutness and the placement of people on notscience wagon.

[Gorkington]

Pretty sure we have like 5 votes on MD right now.
Care to help build this up to give him incentive to make a better post? c:

[Gorkington]

If there's a second scumteam then droog is probably on it.
Amount that he hunted you on the premise of "how do you know there is a second scumteam" strikes me as multiballscumhunting.
There's also him ignoring my clear on you.
Meh.
TOO MANY PEOPLE WORTH LYNCHING. NOT ENOUGH ACTUAL LYNCHES.

[Gorkington]

I never go back on a decision.
Boon's lurking is punishable only by my fists.

[Gorkington]

People should let Thor get back into the game and see if he's still awkward/playing off.
There are plenty of people worth giving shit over. I don't see why people are so insistent on overpressuring someone who was a counterwagon to scum who comes across as being disoriented in a game full of a lot of players who play more based on feeling than logic.
Given that we're so far ahead I'd rather cut the dead weight that's most likely to be scum. If Thor is town he'll be an asset as long as people aren't constantly trying to shove a lynch down his throat.

[Gorkington]

Varsoon is town Fuzzy.
Two kills on a single scum faction N1 means that one of the kills is almost positively from a townPR. If Varsoon was lying as scum, the town killing PR role would have CCed him or killed him.
There's literally no way around it.
Move on to other things pls and ty.

[Gorkington]

The issue is that Thor was focusing on choof to do his usual get out of RVS stuff, so it's alright that elusive was calling him on that ALONE if that's all she was doing [because she might not understand Thor's usual earlygame playstyle]. But for her to stop after asking Thor 15+ questions about choof and be like "why are you only talking about choof?" when she made him only talk about choof is either bad play or scumplay. I'm leaning bad play atm, but I don't think it's unreasonable that Thor saw it as scummy play.

[Gorkington]

Fact checking is for dunkaroos.
Fuck that shit.

[Gorkington]

[I'll check later but nothnx right now]

[Gorkington]

Can drop it.
If I'm motivated I'll take a look later.
Only thing that really needs to happen is MD's next post.
If it's a lame "uhhhh guys im stil not playing" post and not a catchup/a replaceout then we should murder the fuck out of him.

[Gorkington]

I think there's more momentum behind MD right now.
ZZZX is something to look into D4 IMO unless MD does something amazing.

[Gorkington]

Hi muffin.
Thor is probably town.

[Gorkington]

Donot be upset.
Guy is probably town.

Tracing his thoughts on ZZZX felt very natural. His vote being there vs Mnem makes sense to me.
He was a counterwagon to scum. If it's multiball then *shrug*. We'll find out eventually and come back to this. If you want to endlessly get angry trying to sort through Thor by shouting at him you'll probably just end up hating yourself and you're potentially preventing Thor from spending more time on actually scumhunting right now if he is town.
I don't see any good reason to push this right now IMO.

[Gorkington]

Why is this what you choose to focus on?
Who do you think is scum?
Why aren't you voting?

[Gorkington]

Pretty sure he's dead.
Were you scum Mnem?
Give some reads if you're around before deadline and you're town.

[Gorkington]

I hope it's a scumlynch so I can dance around and call you and muffin buffoons c:

[Gorkington]

I'm okay with this.