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IF WE HAVE MAFIA LEFT IT CAN ONLY BE A TRAITOR THAT CAN'T KILL AND IS THEREFORE LESS WORTH LYNCHING THAN SK
and also
IF YOU APPARENTLY THINK SOMEONE IS LIKELY SK OR TRAITOR THERE IS NO LOGICAL REASON TO RANDOMLY TAKE A SHOT AT SOMEONE ELSE
THERE IS ONLY LIKE A 5% CHANCE ANY REGULAR MAFIA ARE STILL ALIVE AND USING OTHER MAFIAS' SIDES OF INTERACTIONS WITH SOMEONE AS EVIDENCE AGAINST SOMEONE NOW IS 95% HORRIBLE
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In post 3105, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Who are you talking to Marquis?? Me or Flub
i'm so mad at flubber. he's voting scum. ugh how annoyinglink in bio-
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hey fuzzy
just because you're probably town and got lucky on notty by just shooting into a barrel of lurk doesn't mean you can keep going ahead ignoring my townreads which have been spot on all game
and i'm going to be extra clear here and say that flubber is town not to mention your vote on him is for literally the most illogical reasons
you're also ignoring the actual reasons why klingon is not only probscum but also a likely final lynch
i'm pretty sure a flubber townflip leads to a klingon lynch tomorrow so objectively i should be fine with that since we're still probably in a good position
but i want to get out of here without having to go through yet another torturous night phase during which i want to just scream at you guys for getting distracted by scum laser pointers but can't for a whole 72 hours or so
and so because i don't trust droog to vote klingon or not be potential traitor
fuzzy you need to unvote and actually vote scum nowlink in bio-
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fuzzy is town or traitor, not worth lynching either way. still pretty sure flubber is town, him being wrong about every single scum just feels more like town than traitor or even sk!flub
poe means i would probably vote droog as the secondary proponent of questioning my obvtowniness
but then there's seo and i'm starting to feel like she could finally be scum this game like maybe i let my guard down and i can see her counting on me not wanting to lynch her at all after last games plus just becauselink in bio-
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In post 3191, droog wrote:lemme get this straight
fuzzy might be traitor
flubber is so scummy you think hes not scummy
im scummy
seo is scummy
oh wow
well
i said town or traitor, and it's probably the former
being wrong =/= scummy
not particularly before bc just PoE but now sure you can get a point for that
no, seo is... seo
VOTE: droog
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In post 3192, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Marquis
Besides being totally wrong on scum ( and on town lynch). ,or the reason you gave ..... is there other reason(s) you believe Flub
Is town. What makes you think I might be a traitor?
i'm still pretty sure you're town but i've been kind of gradually panicking for a bit because if there's been scum in my strong townreads the past few days then it explains why everything is shit
i mean i pretty much strongarmed the klingon lynch through PoE and had tunnelvision on thor for like forever. along with muffin's earlier assessment of the ff kill and the fact that i am alive despite trying to bait my death for days i feel like it's experienced scum who's been relying on newbies to follow my reads because they've been shit this whole time and/or want me to take the blame for the mislynch
and droog's end-of-day setting up my lynch today along with the rip kill makes sort of sense. more sense than the really paranoid sounding theories my mind keeps pushing into the light. like i literally just typed and deleted "or it could be seo knowing i'd be wary of scumreading her based on history and knowing i'd expect her not to want to lynch me for ??? reasons so she can take a backseat on it" and hit undo to paste it again just to show you how i'm kind of panicking over potentially taking some earlier townreads for granted.
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In post 3206, droog wrote:but hey
go on ignoring my question about
'obvtownness'
while you pretend im just only interested in lynching you
lol
it's almost exactly like you're building, curating my lynch right now. like you could be the owner of an art gallery named "the blaming, gossiping and lynching of marquis" or whatever words more closely mean what we both know i mean
as for obvtownness with how many people were townreading me i was all set to be the obvious nightkill after pisskop until the newbie trio all started scumreading me FOR KNOWING HOW MAFIA WORKS and you just sat there and whispered about me being scum too. and for whatever reason i keep finding myself kind of hoping you're town just so i can blame you for ruining the chances of me getting nightkilled in good consciencelink in bio-
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In post 3203, droog wrote:In post 3189, Marquis wrote:. still pretty sure flubber is town, him being wrong about every single scum just feels more like town than traitor or even sk!flub
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"him being wrong about every single scum"
so, flubber has a scummy record
which you think makes him not scummy
so
"flubber is so scummy you think hes not scummy"
you're not a newbie so,please. and there's only one ofthose threestill alive so if you're thinking you can try to bring this up as a way to get one of me and flubber lynched instead, you shouldn't even bother
but i'll say it one last time just so you can't just pretend to not see it again: there is a sk left (or a two-man secondary scumteam but considering "mafia" and no prior mention of ww that's highly unlikely). if mafia are alive, there is also only a mafia traitor left. considering the balance of town PRs vs. only 2 mafia PRs, i think this is more likely than not but i'm ignoring it until sk is dead and game continues on for some reason.
flubber not voting mafia and always voting town doesn't make him sk, and makes him highly unlikely to be traitor. i don't think he's that ballsy. i also think if he were scum anyway, he'd have played this game... differently. i'll admit i'm struggling to explain this now but it's mostly gut + some DoA meta
@fuzzy too again, i'm trying not to put too much stock into it but it just doesn't feel like scum!flub.link in bio-
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after that interesting note, i decided to take a short trip down memory lane
i've been kept alive to lylo or lynched/nked just before lylo in ny 171, 173, and 177.
literally every one i've been in.
of course this isn't alignment indicative but it's still fucking annoying and maybe if i say it now it'll finally stoplink in bio-
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In post 3214, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Confused how it could be a traitor since traitors do not have kill a ility. Guesss it could be a 1x . There several things wrong with this.1not sure a 1 shot traitor woulb be town. Also why a traitor would skil a fellow scum on day 1.
Serial Killer
Traitor
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still feeling the droog lynch
i also just skimmed part of my iso and it's not that impressive except for where i put droog in never lynch for some reason and said "either droog is town or he'll get nked if i'm wrong" and it's too late for me to want to even try and figure out what i meant therelink in bio-
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i wasn't considered mislynchable until yesterday with the jester trio and you adding onto it makes more sense as scum faced with too many obvtowns such that killing me was no longer a necessity
i also think if you really thought i was scum you wouldn't insist on trying to have this conversation like you're trying to get a chance to look Good and Logical rather than doing it just to engage with melink in bio-
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with rip+klingon being town and fuzzy being probtown and me being recognized as obvtown until the stupid arguments it makes a shit ton of sense that scum would have jumped on my "scumminess" after that so as to drag me out of the reluctant-nkpool and into the lynchpool, which is exactly what your end of day 7 and beginning of this day looks like you've been building up to
and you've been saying i'm not your only scumread which is nowhere near the point - the point is you had me set as your mislynch after fuzzy+rip+klingon deemed it an option thru numbers, and your focus on me rather than a more organic town focus on yourself and why you shouldn't be lynched reads as a scum defense by offense tactic too
thing is i would be so much more sure of this if seo died because then rip would have guaranteed town support
but idk if rip was even scumreading you. maybe i'll look at it later today after class but for now the scenario that makes the most sense here is by far droog!scumlink in bio-
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"surprise! here is my scumread on this suddenly lynchable player and some posts to back up my ~consistency~ with!!"
let's not pretend i didn't know you've been murmuring about me being scum all game
i even quoted it and posted it somewhere
i was originally even sort-of townreading u for that for some reason
but if i were scum i'd have killed you before any of the other dead because despite this game i know how good you actually are (even if everyone else this game seems to think this is def genuine town posting or whatever)
i am not feeling this game rn so maybe later @ fuzz
but
bleh
droog is scum
maybe if i keep saying it like this it'll finally get through more than droog is !!somehow!! getting thru like ~~wiggly spooky fingers~~
pedit oh yeah i forgot about that
you killing ffish makes a lot more sense than seo killing ffish so there's that
pedit pedit def of mafia not Mafia
keep misrepping go on
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i am kind of busy and ignoring games rn
but i also really just want this to be over
i'm at the stage where i feel like i've plateaued with how sure of this i am especially with the poe post-seo being basic
and like
fuzzy is town
seo is probtown
flub is probtown
and droog is... surviving??
can we just lynch droog now bc i am so done with this and done w him
pedit if flub was scum he would wagon with droog on me
i know i look bad rn and not killing me means if droog is town flub would capitalize on me for mislynch like now when ur pressuring him
but hes not and he's voting droog with reasining i dont even remember rn
and i still dont think scum flub is that ballsylink in bio-
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In post 3312, droog wrote:im willing to lynch flubber
if there are no better choices
but i d rather get marquis
hes still dodging my questions
incuding logic like
"if flubber was scum hed be doing what hes doing
but hes doing it beter than i am"
good job saying things that i have already said
i'm ignoring you because it's clear you're just going to keep twisting my words to make them sound almost alien compared to what's right there
and somehow fuzzy is half-buying into it
so
good job
your wording "get marquis" is also pretty clear you have no actual town mindset in this
and if you were really so sure on me you wouldn't even consider compromising for flubber
which is pretty much just an appeal to fuzzy for help
also nice beetlejuicing
which is def flimsy yeah
but there
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how many posts did you make?
2?? well
no
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In post 3315, droog wrote:when you admit
that you dont remember why you townread me
for scumreading you
and then scumread me
for scumreading you
fucking wow
just
wow
i originally shoved you into a townread pile because i really didn't feel like sorting a player who was both good + didn't know that well (or maybe it was just you - from what i know of your towngame you have both that more-often-than-not accuracy and clout, and also if i was scum here you'd be long dead) and i assumed that scum would know that and probably kill you before it came to me needing to actually sort you
what i don't remember is why i didn't take a second look at you earlier than this
i have no idea
but to say
"when you admit
that you dont remember why you townread me
for scumreading you
and then scumread me
for scumreading you"
i am literally quoting this because i have no idea how to paraphrase it - its entirety is just so...bad
you are misrepping literally everything i've said today and trying to spin some sort of narrative about how scum!me would... i don't even know what exactly you're trying to feed to everyone, other than that i'm scum who didn't have a definitive read on you earlier (which btw is in no way how my scumgame works which i'm kind of assuming flubber already picked up on by voting you over me in spite of my recent shit) but you're also spinning me as the yelling/senseless one and that's annoying af
and you even quoted my reads and noticing
so you have no excuse
other than being scum
and annoying thing #19235 is that fuzzy is listening which is partially my fault for the thor and klingon townflips but i have no idea how it even comes off as credible at all other than your naturally casual-looking posting stylelink in bio-
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In post 3322, droog wrote:reminder
marquis has me as town all game
In post 1782, Marquis wrote:never lynch
...
droog (either he's town or he'll get killed if i'm wrong)
mething
In post 1819, Marquis wrote:In post 1815, droog wrote:
i think you skipped most everything then but it's okay bcyou're in my titanic
In post 2791, Marquis wrote:
should probably put you by or above next to droog. your questioning there right away had that subconscious town feel kind of. i think
In post 3008, Marquis wrote:
i am absolutely not willing to compromise on flubber/droog/seoor anything you guys might randomly bring up. and right now with her trying to push me through early i think the klingon lynch is a game-ending-thank-fucking-god lynch.
until here suddenly
In post 3189, Marquis wrote:f
poe means i would probably votedroog as the secondary proponent of questioning my obvtowniness
when i was lamely suspecing
marquis
ALL GAME
god
i'm pretty sure i explained at least like ten (or realistically at least five) times now
the "secondary proponent" refers to you coming back and loudly pressing the "marquis could be the actual scum!" angle at the end of last day ONLY AFTER the lynch had already been secured and ONLY after fuzzy/rip/klingon got together in their idiot circle and started saying (AND ACTUALLY BELIEVING) shit like "marquis is scum for knowing that traitors aren't serial killers and serial killers exist independent of traitor" or whatever it was they were selling - ftr i still don't know what the fuck they were even thinking that was and i actually don't regret the klingon lynch because that was insane and she had no handle on anything
before that you can say you were suspecting me all game, but i didn't hear anything about it the last day or so until their townreads on me magically disappeared - and that in no way should have affected you pushing me like that then and there if you were actually town.
and so there it is
you're harping on that because it's your only option
and i've just explained it to everyone in the clearest way i can for hopefully the last time
kind of curious as to how you'll twist it now but
i actually really don't want to argue with scum anymore sooo
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In post 3325, Marquis wrote:before that you can say you were suspecting me all game, but i didn't hear anything about it the last day or so until their townreads on me magically disappeared - and that in no way should have affected you pushing me like that then and there if you were actually town.
also you-scum just letting klingon and co. remove their townreads on me, letting klingon lynch just go through and coming back to try and set up more ~read!precedent~ to incriminate and mislynch me makes so much sense with how that and your sudden activity went down
the only reason rip could be dead for too is because iirc he had you in his poe scumpile and that kind of ego-crazy would have been impossible for you to argue against with flubber also wanting you dead and fuzzy being at rip's side
rip's scumread on me was the whole fucking crazy same traitor thing as klingon and if i were scum i'd have killed you or fuzzy - you're literally the only one to have benefited from that nightkilllink in bio-
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In post 3342, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Also I dont think you are scum....this game doesnt ssem to fit your scum meta on the other handv0 I am not feeling droog scum. I feel quite comfortable on Flubber.
if you're going to criticize me for "bad reads"
we can talk about boonskiies and antihero with regards to yours
boon!scum and anti!town were just as obvious as droog!scum is now
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